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OK,, FEMA didn't do it's job.. Neither did the NWS.. But why? How about the dumbest cuts to staff ever... Who did that? TRUMP

I’d like to see the details and what strings were attached.

Well, I do vote. And I'll never vote for trump again.

And in this case the rainy season was well over with. That ends in may in that art of the country. Nobody could have foretold of this type of flooding in July"

Well, apparently the 'rainy' season wasn't over.

But I love how you say "no one could have foretold of this type of flooding in July.

Yet not a word about FEMA allowing camp Mystic, and probably other camps, to expand into flood zones?

lol yeah reduce spending by passing the largest spending bill ever. Are you for real? Trump style policies help create homelessness. Like dismantling the department of Education. Under trump homelessness has grown exponentially this year. Inflation still up up up. Grocery prices up up up. Rent up up up. Tariffs making inflation worse. Prices up up up. There are people a paycheck away from becoming homeless.

And all we hear from Goper’s is nothing can be done about homelessness while they’re all backing Trump policies that help create more homeless. Pffft. Goper’s…And they won’t even try to address it. It’s pathetic. No plan = a failure to act. IMO if we’d solve homelessness we’d also solve a multitude of other issues along with it. But we won’t, because Americans in general are lazy asses.

It was the warning system that the state refused to pay for which would have saved lives. And in this case the rainy season was well over with. That ends in may in that art of the country. Nobody could have foretold of this type of flooding in July. Much like tornado alley. People live there but there are warning sirens that serve to help save lives. Trump has nothing to do with decisions made by the state of Texas. But if you don't think that all of the cuts to NOAH and the NWS won't have negative consequences moving forward, stay tuned.

The point is that all of this was avoidable in the first place.

Elon set his sights on an agency that was investigating his own company; an agency that was a huge source of soft power for the US. We’ve heard of guns and butter, well this was the butter and it got DOGEd.

And now we have to incinerate the food needlessly. Oh, and what did we do with all that “savings” we got from eliminating USAID?

We passed a bill that increases the deficit even worse.

Hope it was all worth it. Just keep on pulling that lever.

I disagree about the disparity of folks that have decided to not post here.

Here's why: EVERY single this is "negative" trump. It gets old.

This thread, for example. Trump is getting blamed for the lack of action on the flood.

Perhaps we ought to blame, oh, I don't know? FEMA? The gov't. agency that allowed Camp Mystic to expand in flood zones? Perhaps the rain amount in what WERE flood zones?

https://apnews.com/article/texas-fl...igation-e12bee8d5f88301363861ca12c19b929

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...deadly-warnings-records-show/ar-AA1IzMAM

Interesting reading. But, no, blame trump.

Yes, the people that were formerly being paid to distribute the food are no longer employed to do so due to the funding cuts at USAID. So rather than doing the right thing and distributing this food to starving people they chose to let it sit there and rot...............

Food For Millions Rots in Storage After Trump’s USAID Cuts

Roughly 60,000 metric tons of food—enough to feed 3.5 million people for a month—is sitting unused in foreign countries because of the Trump administration’s sudden cut in funding to USAID earlier this year.

According to sources speaking to Reuters, the rations are spread across four warehouses in Houston, Djibouti, Durban, and Dubai and comprise cereals, pulses, and cooking oil. The food, valued at $98 million, was intended for emergency distribution in hunger-stricken regions including Gaza, Sudan, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Most of it will now end up in incinerators or as animal feed.

Nearly 500 tons of high-energy biscuits in Dubai are set to expire in July, one former USAID official told Reuters. They could have fed 27,000 acutely malnourished children for a month.

The failure stems from USAID’s rapid dismantling by the Trump administration and a pause on the contracts and funds needed to ship supplies to where they are needed.

“USAID is continuously consulting with partners on where to best distribute commodities at USAID prepositioning warehouses for use in emergency programs ahead of their expiration dates,” a State Department spokesperson said. Internal proposals to release the food remain on hold, awaiting sign-off from the Office of Foreign Assistance, now headed by 28-year-old Elon Musk appointee, Jeremy Lewin.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/food-for-millions-rots-in-storage-after-trumps-usaid-cuts/

You know, that " people are starving trump hate".

And since "thanks arch" wasn't good enough for you I then said "I said thanks arch. You provided information I was unaware of." and still you carried on. There was nothing combative or evasive about any of that except in your own mind and you're still convinced of that. Just because you don't like the response, just because you don't like a very accurate explanation doesn't mean someone is trying to start a fight with you. In this case you seem to be your own worse enemy. For some reason in your brain you think I feel some need to see you as an adversary. To help clear that up, I don't. You don't rate that high on the scale of importance to me.

And just something to chew on for a minute since you seem to be hanging on here......

If taxes were raised on the wealthiest businesses in it would be very helpful to small businesses. You see, businesses such as Walmart buy in huge bulk. Their buying power means they can offer lower prices. If their taxes were somewhat higher it would help even the playing field for mom and pop businesses which have and will continue to close across our country. We see their doors shuttered in small towns across the country. You know, people just like yourself. A small business just trying to make a living and get ahead. People with which you have so much in common with. Or does that sound too much like socialism to you? You know, give the little guy a hand?

The parts in bold are combative since that seemed to be something you were starving for and even using your imagination to find. Hopefully that will help you better understand what combative looks like moving forward.

So, aside from the "hate trump" slant, what I read is: Small portion of what the u.s. does, and "while still useful", meaning food expires. I can only imagine the headlines if that spoiled food was sent and people got sick.

Here is your reply to me: "So it's nothing but another tax on Americans inflicted upon them by trump? So in reality the average American pays more in tariff money that importers pay to the government than any tax cuts congress just approved. In some circles that's know as a bait and switch con game. I bet most trump voters have no idea that's how this works and that they are now actually paying more in taxes than they were before.

Thanks arch."

Combative. And evasive. You do you.

Mayor Bibb is such a clown.

ABC News' Katherine Faulders asked the president what Bondi told him about the review, "specifically, did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the file?"

"No, no, she's -- she's given us just a very quick briefing," Trump responded before making baseless claims the files were created by some of his political foes.

"And in terms of the credibility of the different things that they've seen, and I would say that, you know, these files were made up by Comey, they were made up by Obama, they were made up by the Biden -- and you know, we and we went through years of that with the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, with all of the different things that we had to go through," Trump said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-bondi-release-whatever-185300968.html

It’s almost comical at this point.

The Trump Administration Is About to Incinerate 500 Tons of Emergency Food
Hana Kiros
Mon, July 14, 2025 at 10:21 PM EDT
6 min read


Five months into its unprecedented dismantling of foreign-aid programs, the Trump administration has given the order to incinerate food instead of sending it to people abroad who need it. Nearly 500 metric tons of emergency food—enough to feed about 1.5 million children for a week—are set to expire tomorrow, according to current and former government employees with direct knowledge of the rations. Within weeks, two of those sources told me, the food, meant for children in Afghanistan and Pakistan, will be ash. (The sources I spoke with for this story requested anonymity for fear of professional repercussions.)

Sometime near the end of the Biden administration, USAID spent about $800,000 on the high-energy biscuits, one current and one former employee at the agency told me. The biscuits, which cram in the nutritional needs of a child under 5, are a stopgap measure, often used in scenarios where people have lost their homes in a natural disaster or fled a war faster than aid groups could set up a kitchen to receive them. They were stored in a Dubai warehouse and intended to go to the children this year.

Since January, when the Trump administration issued an executive order that halted virtually all American foreign assistance, federal workers have sent the new political leaders of USAID repeated requests to ship the biscuits while they were useful, according to the two USAID employees. USAID bought the biscuits intending to have the World Food Programme distribute them, and under previous circumstances, career staff could have handed off the biscuits to the United Nations agency on their own. But since Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency disbanded USAID and the State Department subsumed the agency, no money or aid items can move without the approval of the new heads of American foreign assistance, several current and former USAID employees told me. From January to mid-April, the responsibility rested with Pete Marocco, who worked across multiple agencies during the first Trump administration; then it passed to Jeremy Lewin, a law-school graduate in his 20s who was originally installed by DOGE and now has appointments at both USAID and State. Two of the USAID employees told me that staffers who sent the memos requesting approval to move the food never got a response and did not know whether Marocco or Lewin ever received them. (The State Department did not answer my questions about why the food was never distributed.)

In May, Secretary of State Marco Rubio told representatives on the House Appropriations Committee that he would ensure that food aid would reach its intended recipients before spoiling. But by then, the order to incinerate the biscuits (which I later reviewed) had already been sent. Rubio has insisted that the administration embraces America’s responsibility to continue saving foreign lives, including through food aid. But in April, according to NPR, the U.S. government eliminated all humanitarian aid to Afghanistan and Yemen, where, the State Department said at the time, providing food risks benefiting terrorists. (The State Department has offered no similar justification for pulling aid to Pakistan.) Even if the administration was unwilling to send the biscuits to the originally intended countries, other places—Sudan, say, where war is fueling the world’s worst famine in decades—could have benefited. Instead, the biscuits in the Dubai warehouse continue to approach their expiration date, after which their vitamin and fat content will begin to deteriorate rapidly. At this point, United Arab Emirates policy prevents the biscuits from even being repurposed as animal feed.

Over the coming weeks, the food will be destroyed at a cost of $130,000 to American taxpayers (on top of the $800,000 used to purchase the biscuits), according to current and former federal aid workers I spoke with. One current USAID staffer told me he’d never seen anywhere near this many biscuits trashed over his decades working in American foreign aid. Sometimes food isn’t stored properly in warehouses, or a flood or a terrorist group complicates deliveries; that might result in, at most, a few dozen tons of fortified foods being lost in a given year. But several of the aid workers I spoke with reiterated that they have never before seen the U.S. government simply give up on food that could have been put to good use.

The emergency biscuits slated for destruction represent only a small fraction of America’s typical annual investment in food aid. In fiscal year 2023, USAID purchased more than 1 million metric tons of food from U.S. producers. But the collapse of American foreign aid raises the stakes of every loss. Typically, the biscuits are the first thing that World Food Programme workers hand to Afghan families who are being forced out of Pakistan and back to their home country, which has been plagued by severe child malnutrition for years. Now the WFP can support only one of every 10 Afghans who are in urgent need of food assistance. The WFP projects that, globally, 58 million people are at risk for extreme hunger or starvation because this year, it lacks the money to feed them. Based on calculations from one of the current USAID employees I spoke with, the food marked for destruction could have met the nutritional needs of every child facing acute food insecurity in Gaza for a week.

Despite the administration’s repeated promises to continue food aid, and Rubio’s testimony that he would not allow existing food to go to waste, even more food could soon expire. Hundreds of thousands of boxes of emergency food pastes, also already purchased, are currently collecting dust in American warehouses. According to USAID inventory lists from January, more than 60,000 metric tons of food—much of it grown in America, and all already purchased by the U.S. government—were then sitting in warehouses across the world. That included 36,000 pounds of peas, oil, and cereal, which were stored in Djibouti and intended for distribution in Sudan and other countries in the Horn of Africa. A former senior official at USAID’s Bureau for Humanitarian Assistance told me that, by the time she’d left her job earlier this month, very little of the food seemed to have moved; one of the current USAID employees I spoke with confirmed her impression, though he noted that, in recent weeks, small shipments have begun leaving the Djibouti warehouse.


Such operations are more difficult for USAID to manage today than they were last year because many of the humanitarian workers and supply-chain experts who once coordinated the movement of American-grown food to hungry people around the world no longer have their jobs. Last month, the CEOs of the two American companies that make another kind of emergency food for malnourished children both told The New York Times that the government seemed unsure of how to ship the food it had already purchased. Nor, they told me, have they received any new orders. (A State Department spokesperson told me that the department had recently approved additional purchases, but both CEOs told me they have yet to receive the orders. The State Department has not responded to further questions about these purchases.) But even if the Trump administration decides tomorrow to buy more food aid—or simply distribute what the government already owns while the food is still useful—it may no longer have the capacity to make sure anyone receives it.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-incinerate-500-tons-022123377.html

Hopefully the entire Epstein fiasco will cause his supporters to pay a little more attention to what he says in comparison to what he does. But I'm not holding my breath.

Jefferson Airplane White Rabbit....Rotterdam Pop Festival

Hey Keith,

I wanted to take the time to respond to this. Sorry it took a while. Things have been nuts lately with the force reductions. On top of that, my building (previously on the demo list), just had a major leak in the ceiling of our office today. Flood knocked out ceiling tiles and it came down on work stations. Good stuff.

Anyhow, I appreciate all your insights and I don’t really disagree with a whole lot on a grand level. I might posit that Dems and Repubs are equally down the middle to blame for a lot of the border issues we’ve had.

My really big problem with Trump is that he’s a marketer and an opportunist. He takes a Trojan horse approach to appease people and then acts in his own self interest by pulling a series of bait and switches. He has done well with the border, but the spectacle with ICE, Noem and whatnot has gone way too far over the top.

He also pulls full on 180s on certain things and I just really hope that his base can finally come to see that. This whole Epstein nonsense might be the one chance of that happening. He does what’s best for him and he’s proven that time and again. He’ll say and do anything to get what he wants for himself, and accepts zero blame or responsibility.

Anyhow, I hope you’re doing well, Keith. Good to see you posting around here.

And I said thank you for informing me. Speaking of "don't get it or won't get it." What part of this are you not comprehending here?......


Is that worded in a way it does not compute with your brain? Dear Lord man. Why don't you just face the fact that you can't stand me and even when I give you credit for giving me information I was unaware of your brain can't quite grasp that due to your preconceived notions. And you think it's me who needs to quit?

You are certainly being your usual self. Remind me in the future to never give you credit for giving me information I didn't know. I mean if this is the response I get for doing that why should I even bother?

Seek help.

You just don't, or won't, get it.


You specifically said the gov't. gets none of the money. In fact, they do. Period. Quit.

I said thanks arch. You provided information I was unaware of. So what is that crazy rant about? If I'm directly paying the business the money they are paying to the government, they aren't paying it. I am. That's not twisting anything.

Do the math. Let's use 30% as an example. Government forces the business to pay 30% more for goods from a certain country. In turn the business raises my price by 30%. The business then takes the extra 30% they charged me for the product and in turn pays it to the government. The fact that the business plays the middle man in transferring the money I paid them over to the government doesn't change the fact I paid the tariff tax.

The only taxes I want to see raised is on the extremely wealthy. There is very little I purchase directly from very wealthy businesses. In case you missed it that excludes the vast majority of businesses in our country including but not limited to businesses such as your own. Are you feeling okay?

You were wrong.

I made no comment about tariffs being good or bad. You said the gov't. didn't get the money. You were wrong.

And yes, the consumer pays it.

Kind of ironic for you to be saying that when you ALSO want to raise the business taxes. Who pays that? The consumer. But, twist and turn all you want.

Bottom line, you said the gov't. doesn't get any of the money, when they in fact get it all. Period. The end.

So it's nothing but another tax on Americans inflicted upon them by trump? So in reality the average American pays more in tariff money that importers pay to the government than any tax cuts congress just approved. In some circles that's know as a bait and switch con game. I bet most trump voters have no idea that's how this works and that they are now actually paying more in taxes than they were before.

Thanks arch.

[quote=PitDAWG
The U.S. government does not get money from tariffs.[/quote]

It doesn't?

"Where does the tariff money go?

The money from tariffs, paid by American companies, goes to the U.S. Department of Treasury and enters the general affairs budget, said Felix Tintelnot, an associate professor of economics at Duke University in North Carolina. From there, it can be used “essentially for anything.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/03/05/where-does-tariff-money-go/81375235007/

Now, I am not saying tariffs are good or bad. But, yes, the gov't. (according to USA Today) does get the money.

"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you can find the missing Epstein list."