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I cant believe I'm saying this and unless I just got Ricked and shot into an alternate dimension. This IS our reality. But, kicker seems to be a HUGE need right now. Bad kicking is what lost us the division. Gostkowski is resigning. So do we draft a K?

I think Greg Joseph is going to be the guy. We will also bring another guy for camp, but I wouldn’t expect that him to get the job.

Do we really need a kicker? Don't need FGs, Baker doesn't like them anyway. Go for two every time... Pooch all the kickoffs out of bounds and give the other teams a chance!

Joseph's got a year of experience under his belt. Hopefully he's matured mentally.

I kind of want to see what Joseph does with a different special teams coach before getting rid of him.

I want to bring in all the kickers, and have a competition. Put them under pressure and see who is the best.

Because when we get to the playoffs, no doubt, the pressure is gonna be phenominal, and we need the right guy.

Two kickers. Phil for anything under 45, Joseph for the longer one. Unless there's a blizzard and it's from 48 yards or so, in the swirling, cold winds of Lake Erie, cuz we'd need Phil for that one.

I'd settle for Phil just doing the PAT's.

Yeah, that's kinda what I was getting at.

That is a waste of a roster spot.

No kidding????

Gee whiz, I didn't consider that.

I was being slightly facetious.

Edit: but not completely facetious.

Everytime Joseph came out my heart stopped. I never felt confident and knew we would lose via a kick at some point (once he was signed).

10/11 games won + playoffs last year had we a better kicker and ST's.

The position that is most worrisome, is Safety,

Then Right Guard,
Then Tight end #3, and #4

Then kicker,

Then backup quarterback.

But the kicker needs to be more reliable, like foul shots in a basketball game. So kicker may be higher up on the list.

You shouldn't have to draft a kicker though. In the old days nobody drafted a kicker, I thought, except the dumb teams.

What’s Kickalicious up to these days.

I do have concerns about the kicker. I'm not sure if Dorey had any involvement in signing Butker in KC but that dude is pretty solid and he's a free agent

The "position" I think is bleakest is kick/punt returner. I'd spend our 7th or maybe our 6th depending on houw the draft shakes out on Tony Pollard of Memphis. He's had 7 NCAA career TD's on returns. He's also a decent WR/RB option.

We still have the draft, FA and even cuts at the end of preseason games to address these positions.

No kidding... wouldn't be surprised to draft a kicker late.. we will have a kicker competitio... maybes . a through fa but I wouldn't be surprised if we draft one

Linebacker and DB's

Yes I know that's two.

LB and safety

That sounds right.

Btw: Look at our WR ranking. Tied for the highest in the league. What an amazing turnaround from just a couple of years ago.

WR could be even better if they ended up with Paris Campbell, who may or may not, (ehh at least "possible") push n end up greater than Ratley and Louis, maybe and Strong, n Willies,

Nevermind, probably won't happen.


Posiotion most worrisome. (Well nowhere else to put this )

I'm a little worried the Browns somehow don't get the monkey off their back with either Baltimore or Pittsburgh for the division, and

the Worry, The AFC South has 4 teams that collectively, the last 2 times the Browns were "near", I'm not sure in my mind what the previous one before last year was, may have been pettiness 7-9 season, may be another,

My worry is the AFC South has 4 teams that are more "Gelled" at present at least, to just not even give the Browns a chance at the wild card, again.

And their quarterbacks? they can play just as good, and their teams and coaches, they have just as much continuity.

Because of the AFC south, I'm worried there could be 3 10-6 teams, and the Browns could also be 10-6 and not get in.

The one position that is most worrisome?
Quarterbacks of the AFC South.

Grateful, where can I get that chart?

I agree LB and Safety.

We can get a starting SS in round 2. We may or may not be able to do much to impact LB this year.

The position most worrisome to me is cornerback. We're a Denzel Ward bad tackle away from another concussion and a weak unit. TJ Carrie was very bad last year, BBC is gone, and both Gaines plus Mitchell dealt with injuries last season.

The top ranked kicker in the draft is that kid from LSU.....so there's another Tiger who can win some games for us.

LB and S are glaring IMO ... imagine having LBs that can cover, because we haven't had that in a long while

Schobert is excellent in coverage. Kirksey isn't too bad. We need another safety who can cover.

Pollard is my ideal later pick as well...would help on special teams as we have a big opening at returner...and he could be someone we can groom as a receiving back, specially if they do indeed trade Duke away.

^This.

QB is by far most worrisome to me.....just bc of how snake-bitten this franchise seems to be..

LB although Avery eases my concern ...

I felt the same each and every time Joseph came out.

I seem to remember Phil Dawsons first couple of years,,,, I felt the same about him.. Not sure what that means,,,

Those knuckleballs tho, how many went in that easily could have been missed?

I believe a few were tipped at the line.

Couldn't say if it was because of a low kick or a breakdown with the line.

The way Dorsey as added some linemen in FA, it leads me to think the Oline didn't hold position.

It means one of the best kickers in Browns history had growing pains his first couple of years in the league, just like our current kicker. I don't think it's very logical to believe Joseph can't improve, based on the facts that Phil started out this way too. I don't remember the distances of the kicks missed before Joseph was signed, were any of them withing the distance he was "automatic" based on his stats? I'm not say

It means one of the best kickers in Browns history had growing pains his first couple of years in the league, just like our current kicker. I don't think it's very logical to believe Joseph can't improve, based on the facts that Phil started out this way too. I don't remember the distances of the kicks missed before Joseph was signed, were any of them withing the distance he was "automatic" based on his stats? I guess give a rookie kicker a year to learn before we call for their head is how we should feel.

I don't recall them being tipped, just knuckleballs.