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Best wishes to Tito for a return to good health. Interesting that Hale is interim manager after Sandy Alomar filled in last year and lead the team to the postseason, however briefly. He can't be a happy camper right now. Seems like a rather public diss of Alomar by the front office.

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Tough news on Tito. For a fairly young guy, his body is pretty old. I hope all goes well for the guy.

As for Alomar, possibly the team sees Alomar as being on the way out, meaning him being on some "A" lists. With Francona being here pretty much as long as he wants, the team wants to start grooming some one else.

Mills was the bench coach for a long time, but opted out last season, thus Alomar was name interim acting manager. Hale and Tito go way back and is now the bench coach.

In baseball, the bench coach or pitching coach are usually the #1 guy next to the manager, so it makes sense that Hale got the nod.

I hope that Tito returns to health quickly and completely.

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The Rosario trade makes no sense, other than it being a salary dump. What, the Braves don't have a marginal prospect somewhere in their system we could have gotten instead? I keep hoping the front office is gathering cash assets to offer Jose Ramirez a contract extension. The payroll has to be under $40M now.

The team has very friendly club options through 2023 and he isn't a FA (unless the team buys him out) until 2024. I'm not sure an extension is a priority. But I could be wrong.

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Aaaaannd......the Cleveland Indians 2021 season is officially over.

It's been over, and officially ended when Tito was lost for the season.

Cubs have traded Anthony Rizzo, Javy Baez, Craig Kimbrel, and Kris Bryant in the last two days. Their fans must be livid.

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All this #RosterTurnover!

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This feels like the most active MLB trade deadline in quite a long time.

OH NOES, not Jordan Luplow! Anybody but Jordan Luplow. This is shocking and crushing. I'm shocked and crushed.

Love Myles Straw, good young OF, which we need and under team control for awhile. Emjoyed watching him play when we played Houston. Got some good young arms in these deals.

I dont mind the Rosario deal, never really cared for him much, never seemed to give 100%.

Fans don't usually know what is best. Sometimes it isn't working and you need to start over with young players.


I do like the Straw pick-up. He is a useful player who as a everyday player could work out well.

Poor old Guardians.

Still the Indians for now, but thanks just the same.

Just getting myself used to the change.

You seem to be doing well with it. Better than me.

Just wait 'til a bunch of Gingers (or Communists) start protesting your team's name ........

Once all Native American team names have changed then snow flakes next cause will be with PETA and all of the offensive team names for Animals. You know that is disrespectful to animals to have team names represent them.

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Tribe a complete dumpster fire in the bottom of the 8th. Have never seen the wheels fall off quite like this.

Bebo will be gone next year.

Old ass LaRussa with the 4.2 out of the dugout.

I was really impressed with Straw in that last series in Houston. He is FAST and plays CF better than anyone the Tribe has sent out there since Lofton. Although I like Maton, Straw is the better player.

Rosario was a disappointment, but Panda? Really?

Hernandez impressed me last season, but less so this year. He has made a number of baserunning errors, and has played sloppy 2B.

Luplow never impressed me. He swings for the fences, which is nice if he connects, but too often it results in wasted ABs.

One big time Diss to Alomar .. Shame on the FO.

Maybe they asked him and he declined.

Why?

I already explained how that works.

If there was a dis, it was when Tito kept him as 1st base coach.

In a game where the manager gets thrown out, the 1st base coach isn't the guy to take over. It is almost always the bench coach. Sometimes the pitching coach. It's never the 1st base coach.

Last years bench coach opted out of the season, so it wasn't a normal situation.

Oh..the front office has nothing to do with who the manager appoints as acting manager. Tito does.

That's an interesting comment. I had never thought about who appoints the interim manager.
I assumed it would be a group discussion of Tito and the front office but assumed the GM would make the final decision.

Following that train of thought ; Maybe Tito is looking over his shoulder ! Big fan of Sandy on and off the field . Hope he gets the shot he wants in the major's ..

I doubt Tito is concerned. I doubt the FO cans him anytime soon.

To clarify a point I made earlier. My comment about Tito appointing the interim manager was based on he says who manages the game in his absence.

In the case of a long term absence, I am sure there is some discussion with the FO, but I would be shocked if the FO didn't go with his recommended person, and would be shocked if Tito named someone other than the person he has in that role already.

As I noted, Brad Mills opted out last year, and maybe even retired. The point is last years naming of Alomar was a strange situation. Normally you aren't going to have a base coach doing that because they can't manage the team and coach a bag.

I agree for the most part . However ( lol ) I don't think ANYONE could argue with the job Sandy did last season .. Jumped in and got them into the play offs .. brighter Base ball minds than mine make decisions for the TRIBE .. Just doesn't feel right in my old eye's..