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Since you asked for it:

The law, which goes into effect immediately, grants civil legal immunity to people who drive through protesters blocking a road, which Democrats argued might have protected the white nationalist who ran over and killed counter-protester Heather Heyer during the Charlottesville tumult in 2017. It also makes blocking a highway a felony offense.

From this story.

Great! This should be the law in all 50 states!

OCD said in the other thread:




My point was, if you destroy property not belonging to you, you should be subject to whatever laws are on the books.. Regardless of your political or social viewpoints.

So, if you are BLM or Proud boys and you destroy property, you should be held accountable..

Reply to Clem's last post regarding Babbit:

Dude... there were TONS of people that participated in the attempted coup that DIDN'T get shot. Obviously if she wasn't there, she'd still be alive, but the key part here is that she rushed a door that was barricaded by Capitol Police.

On a day when the stupidity level had already been raised higher than many had imagined, she decided on a 'hold my beer' moment.

That's just what we need. More made up felonies for non violent offenders! Yay snowflakes!

I believe Florida and DeSantis got the idea from a Tennessee Bill...

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/nation...01-c9c22cec7daf

What difference does that make? How is making it legal to run over, maim and kill people who are not threatening violence against you?

"They're going to make me late for work by blocking the road. The best answer is to run their asses over!".

It seems you still haven't managed to understand where crazy gets you. In the 2020 election it cost you not only The White House, but the majority in the Senate.

It's not all that hard. Just try being decent human beings.

A driver won't have immunity against prosecution for hitting a protester with their car, but they have some level of civil protection. If a driver feels threatened by a protester and runs them over, the law provides them with some defense mechanisms if they are sued.

Hopefully the bar will be set a little higher than "feels threatened".

Yeah, I think it's more geared to like that school board video, where the guy was in a parked car and people blocking him in. I don't think you'd get away with flooring it, but if you slowly pushed your way through, so be it.

If you are intentionally blocking a car, and don't give way of they slowly roll forward, you deserve it.

At some point the protester needs to have some responsibility for their actions as well.

I think the law speaks in very general terms that opens the door for far more than that. I mean what people consider threatening varies greatly from person to person. Without specific guidelines within the law it's not clear on what that term means.

Much like stand your ground laws. I'm not against someone standing their ground. It's just such a vague term that it's not nearly specific enough to draw any concrete guidance from in many cases.

A laws intent often times does not dictate the consequences and interpretation of such laws.

I agree, the law is somewhat vague, and most likely is one of those things that would have to be hashed out by the first to invoke it.

There a few things in the Concealed Carry laws that everyone finds vague, and no one wants to be the first to test it.

Imagine somebody in a car deciding to run down protestors under that law, then the protesters open fire under the stand your ground law and then florida is the new wild west! Throw in some covid and you have 2021.

j/c:

Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusi...ces-2021-08-20/

So no statement from the FBI then...

So they know the militias did some pre-planning, but the majority just went with the flow and committed treason... smh.

then it's as simple as they've arrested 570 people for breaking the law..,

This doesn't pass the smell test., Anyone with a brain can tell that they had some kind of organization.. Whether it was trump himself (and I believe it was) or one of his minions. It was planned and organized..

Those that were arrested, if found guilty, they need to serve time.. none of this mamby pamby time served crap... They tried to over throw an election..

Agent provocateur

An agent provocateur (French for "inciting agent") is a person who commits or who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an illegal act, so as to ruin the reputation or entice legal action against the target or a group they belong to or are perceived to belong to. They may target any group, such as a peaceful protest or demonstration, a union, a political party or a company.

In jurisdictions in which conspiracy is a serious crime in itself, it can be sufficient for the agent provocateur to entrap the target into discussing and planning an illegal act. It is not necessary for the illegal act to be carried out or even prepared.

Prevention of infiltration by agents provocateurs is part of the duty of demonstration marshals, also called stewards, deployed by organizers of large or controversial assemblies.

So the FBI admits there was no planned insurrection. It was just a mob getting out of control. The sane people already knew this, but I guess tards gotta tard.

No, the FBI hasn't said anything. This was something some "former agents and current agents" have said. I think the article said a total of four of them.

What has already been established is there were at least some small groups within the crowd that had made plans and were organized. The crowd as a total group most likely weren't. They were just incited by others to commit illegal acts.

It is and always has been the Stance that the FBI doesn't comment on ongoing investigations. So this is not factual..

No, but sources do.

Wake up.

We know that anyone who supported Trump has said for the last 4 years that any article or information from "Sources" is fake news.

Sources,, that's your answer? Sources aren't official. But then again, if you are a Trumpian, you just take anything that fits your thinking and think its gospel..

Time for you to wake up

Not sure this lawsuit has a real chance, but it's good that it all comes out.

That's not the same thing you were saying from 2016 through 2020. What changed?

j/c...

Based on that tweet alone, it sounds like the scope of this committee has been hijacked.

So much for accountability....

At least you've finally come to grips with your own identity.

Not necessarily...

I thought Agent Provocateur was a women's lingerie line.

(Didn't post a link because I am unsure of the approprioteness.)

yes, and a Foriegner album.

I thought it was a French tickler.

The person that shot Ashli Babbit revealed...