DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2021 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 17 Giants 13 Couple of players I noticed today....

I’m not sure I want to cut John Kelly. He looked good today, loved his effort on that catch-and-run play in the fourth quarter. If we do cut him he will get another NFL job real soon.

LeCounte is growing on me, he looks rangy and physical.

Stanton is an interesting player. I laughed when he caught that in route, looking like a WR.

MacLaughlin nailing the 49 yard field goal sure helped his stock, when we needed some breathing room he delivered.

Thoughts?

It's hard to tell what the hell we have..

Johnson and Kelly both looked really good today. I think it’s obvious at this point that the Browns are going to have to cut some quality guys that would have easily made the team 2 years ago. What a luxury to have.

I like Kelly as well. Not sure we can keep a 4th back. IMO Chubb, Hunt, and Johnson are locks. I am counting Felton more or less as Natsons slot or a receivers position.

I think LB Elijah Lee had a nice showing. Those are two guys who up to this point haven't been mentioned.

Hope we get something out of some of these guys we have to cut. A few of them could easily start on weaker teams.

Somebody is going to make the team by the cutdown day and whoever does I hope they play great. Tough decisions for sure.

I think that is the goal and at least a part why starters aren't playing. We want to showcase a few of these guys. Maybe get a 6th or 7th rounder out of a couple of them.

we have alot more difficult decisions on offense than defense.. Defense is still difficult to watch from LB/DT, but our offense is deep just about every position. I really hope we get a brief look at starting defense atleast once during next game.. because its hard to visualize any improvement from last year based on what we've seen. I'm really excited for the clowney, hill/johnson debuts. Glass greedy hurt again..if i'm looking for a spot to free up for a fringe guy, greedy is that position. We need to start running away from LSU memorial hospital players.

I still think mack wilson is JAG and I don't think Billings is worth keeping based on just watching them last two weeks.. Billings was getting tossed around and manhandled every play. If he stays the hope has to be he's still working back into shape. Jackson/richardson in the middle with clowney/garrett would have been formidable.

I agree. After today I want 5 RBs and 2 FBs. It sounds like they are good enough STs players they could go that route.

WR Davis is impressing the heck out of me, but sounds like they have to TRY and sneak him on the PS.

I didn't see Billings getting pushed around. It's hard to tell with a player like that. What we want to see isn't what he does so sometimes our view isn't the clearest.

The coaches know what they want out of him.

oh he did, alot, in fact one play #74 on giants at end of play squared him up and just tossed him over the pile like he was loading bags of mulch into the back of the truck...i was embarrased for billings

I will say it might be different with the starting defense around him..he might be too isolated with 2-3rd teamers. I'm willing to give him that, but for all the camp hype, I expected a monster inside and didn't see that at all.. Day has been a nice surprise though

I saw that as well. As someone who studied judo for several years, tossing off balance people around doesn't impress, or should I say surprise me.

Malik McDowell flashed to me. He had a sack but he also seemed to have a few QB pressures/hits. He is #58. He played mostly at the end of the game so I would like to see him play against better competition.

We need to notice the damn starters for a few series.

Looks like that's not happening.

Even the Chefs are playing Mahomes FFS!

And the "Chefs" lost their starting RB for 6-8 weeks...


Rest the Starters

Johnny Stanton: "It's always fun to have your number called. They told me this week I'd be a tight end and I said 'Alright let's do it.'"

"I'm willing to do whatever it takes to make this team."

https://twitter.com/camijustice/status/1429540577599803400

Guess you're smarter than the coaches. Based on last years performance and what we've seen so far...I'll trust the coaches.

We've lost a possible starting LB and GW isn't in great shape. The Ravens lost a starting LB for sure.

I'm glad we aren't exposing KEY pieces in MEANINGLESS games.

KC awaits....GO Browns!!!

Did JOK play, I hope for not long. I don't remember him being mentioned.

He played quite a bit.

J?C

Not sexy but Blake Hance was solid at Center today.

I made this comment to my son today, it's weird that the Browns are one of the teams the rest of the NFL is watching closely to see who gets cut because we are so deep in a few of our position groups.

I know every team follows all the other teams but the Browns are on a lot of teams radar for post cut pick-ups.

Forget McKinley. I don't think he can meander back here and take a slot at this point. I'd put him om the MUP list..mentally unable to preform.

Didn't see game, did he do anything? JOK.

I'm doing my best to continue to give him the benefit of the doubt. It very well could be something super serious that he needs to deal with.

It's positive to know that he's in contact with KS. My initial feeling on KS not sharing anything regarding that communication was not good, but KS keeps everything very tight to the chest. If he wasn't going to divulge anything regarding Troy Hill's practice dust-up, then there's no way we're getting anything on Takk.

That'll get him noticed. Between being out of football and getting a little dinged up in Training Camp, was this game his first bunch of meaningful snaps (practice or game)? I just remember hearing his story and then hearing how he got a minor injury early in camp and then nothing until this game.

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#Browns Offense vs. NYG:

Top 5 Grades:

RB John Kelly - 90.1
OT Alex Taylor - 86.4
FB Johnny Stanton - 84.3
OT Greg Senat - 82.1
FB Andy Janovich - 76.9

I'm just not sure why so many fans prefer Felton over Kelly or Johnson after watching the NYG game

I'm a little worried about the middle of our DL. Billings did get pushed around again. I'd actually like to see McDowell start the beginning of next game, because he did look good when he was in there.

If teams can just go up the gut like they did with us yesterday, that will nullify some of the excitement we wanted to see with Garrett and Clowney.

I certainly agree with you in principal. Just not from a practical standpoint. With the signing of Chubb to his extension and having Hunt, I think the role of bruiser/runner has already been filled. While I'm certainly impressed with Kelly from that standpoint, I think what this coaching staff may be looking for is a Swiss Army Knife type of RB at this juncture.

Demetric Felton seems to fill a void at the position we currently lack. He's that small scat back we lack on the roster. He can line up at WR or RB. He can return punts. So while I agree with you from a pure RB standpoint, I think Felton adds dimensions we need as where Kelly is more of a carbon copy of an asset we already have depth at.



I felt going in he had the tools in his toolbox. I think he fell in the draft due to his previous injury and he is a little slight in frame. But teams weren't sure he would return at full form. At this point he's certainly looking to be a value draft pick.



Stanton is another player that stood out to me. I think I would compare the current FB position situation the same way as I did to the Felton/Kelly situation at RB.

Stefanski brought Janovich with him from Minnesota. He was familiar with the offense and Stefanski was familiar with him. But when watching the two in preseason I think it's obvious that Stanton is more versatile. He too, as with Felton, lined up in different positions including WR, H back and FB. The more ways a player can contribute the better.

It seems to me when looking at the plays being dialed up for the FB that Stefanski has plays designed to use the FB position in different ways and there certainly seems to be a number of plays in that playbook for the FB. Stanton seems to fit that mold better than Janovich.

I'm certainly no expert on this topic but it certainly wouldn't surprise me if Stanton gets the nod on the final 53 over Janovich.

Mark it down.....Having NONE of the starters playing pre season action is GOING TO HURT US AGAINST KC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marked!!! smh

the starters got a lot of work in the scrimmages against the NYGs in the days before the game, they are just limited contact. You act like they are standing around doing nothing.

I don't know what his stats were for the game. He didn't stand out (good or bad) to me.

Nonsense?
Number grades debunked?