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Well said and it should be repeated. You start somewhere and you hopefully end somewhere else and the offense from a season ago that oddly went thru an off season transformation sorta like the defense did this year and by mid season they sat down and said we do this well we don't do this well, and if we tweak this and do that it will be better, and its been day and night ever sense so yeah crawl before you walk, walk before you run and hey this sorta proves it's possible and hey even likely.

No matter how reasoned your post though you're soft. hahaha

Are you kidding!! Browns owned this guy so bad! They started the end of his career!
Can you guess.

Justin Fields to start?
People could have seen this coming from the day he was drafted and the schedule was Browns in game #3.

I’m concerned about the interior line of our defense, JF can tuck that and run

Much better post, no snark, lots of points! LOL

Was he submitting for 888's approval?

Justin Fields to start?
If Fields went 6-13 passing against the Bengals, then the Browns, need to also force a lot of incompletions!

Pay attention.

Or don't. I don't mind. As someone posted - you write schtick for shock value and not a lot else.... so ...

I think you just disrespected shtick.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200109230cle.htm
Those Were the days!

(Who was Coach then Pat Schurmur? ) ...
Look for yourself Throw Long!, Duh! it was 2000 and 1? 2001! Oh Butch Davis, the glory days. me- "Who would have thought we'd be looking back to the glory days of Butch Davis" Still arguably the best Browns coach since 1999.

The day Ty Detemer threw 7 interceptions for the Lions, 1 short of the NFL record.
Dawgs4life it was never closer than 7 points, but!!! there was no scoring in the final 11 minutes with that 10 point lead, so... Looking back, What a Wonderful Flubbed Game!
I'll Propose, the NFL! Could have looked at this game before deciding on later rule changes involving helping offenses with 15 yard, +automatic first down penalties for brushing a quarterback, in order! to give terrible offenses an ability to keep eyes glued to T.V.s.

A deep dive into this game! Is a wonderful, look into a time capsule of what has far too fast become history.
September 23, 2001. Only 2nd, or first game after the September 11th 9/11 attacks canceled the previous weeks football games to be played at the end of the schedule.
As 3 days of No fly zone for the entire continental US. existed.
( For those 3 days! I could see the sky as my ancestors had for 4000 years, but I hadn't my whole life.) Not a single white line cloud streak chem trail off a planes exhaust. ..
back to the game!

24 accumulated penalties, 15 on Detroit for 115 yards.

Anthony Henry had 3 ints! Tim Couch threw 3 touchdowns! One to Shaun O'Hara- (Ya that Shaun O'Hara.) was he an OL, or a DL, I think a center, maybe a TE?
The Lions!! had a fumble, but they didn't lose possession.
My Guy!! Daylon McCutcheon, had a forced fumble, on 6 solo tackles on the day.

( DTMB, members like ScottPlayersFaceMask: and KosarSideArmor: DiamDawg: around to read in that timeframe)
73,168 announce attendance! Lions favored by 1.5 in Cleveland . the Over/Under 33.0 (team used to score less, and more to the 3rd down percentage)
The 3rd down percentage of that days game is hilarious!
Scoring per quarter,
Lions, 0,-0,-7,-7, final 14
Browns 7,-7,-10,-0 final 24 Yeah! Browns Won 24-14.

Scoring by quarter. 1st 8:55 Kevin Johnson 4 yd touchdown catch, from Tim Couch, Phil Dawson kick 7-0
2nd 13:21 Shaun O'Hara 2 yard catch from Couch! 14-0 Browns Halftime.....
3rd. 11:36 Phil Dawson 33yd kick good. 17-0 Browns
3rd. 7:26 Lions, Terry Fair, Interception Return Pick-6 26 yard return for the TD, Jason Hanson kick 7-17 Browns lead.
still 3rd..
Quincy FREAKING MORGAN!! 34 yard! pass, from Tim Freakin Couch! 24-7 good guys! 'talkin about!

4th. 11:25 Lions, Johnnie Morton 14 yard td pass from Ty Detmer, Hanson kick 14-24. Browns still lead.

Defense, interceptions:
Cleveland, Anthony Henry!!!! 3 interceptions for 58 yards no tds.
Jamir Miller! Jamir Miller led the Browns with 8 total tackles on the day, 4 combined, and 4 solo. and had
ONE Interception! for 0 yards
Corey Fuller 1 interception. 1 yard
Percy Ellsworth 1 interception, 19 yards!
Earl Little 1 interception 0 yards!

Tim Couch was sacked 3 times, 2 by Porcher, 1 by Tracy Scruggs
Shaun Rogers, (later Brown), led Detroit with 10 tackles 0 sacks.
Couch was intercepted twice. 1- the 26 yard pick 6 by Terry Fair
and 1 by Robert Bailey for 0 yards.

Browns penalized 9 times for 50 yards, Detroit penalized 15 times for 115 yards!

Go Defense! the games, 3rd! Down! Coversions!
Detroit- 1 for 12, on third down
Cleveland- 2 for 11 on third down. Ooh Rah! Defense! Crunch Bunch!
Detroit was 1 for 1 on 4th down, Cleveland 0 tries on 4th down.
September 23 2001.
The day the Lions threw 7 interceptions against the Browns and the Browns still, Pulled Victory! ...

Damn it! I hate it when I forget to throw some snark in there!

You got me for half a tick!!

You can make up for it next time.

This could be a trap game. I can see us blowing this one if we aren't careful.

Thanks for the memory lol. I remember watching the game with my grandpa

Go back and watch the game the Texans were splitting their backs one to Tyrod's left and one to his right.

Those backs were used as blockers for Garret and Clowney and the center and right guard handled McDowell. I have watched football for many years I have never seen a team double 3 guys along the line. It caught the Browns and Woods off guard, it did me too honestly. 6 guys for 3 guys.

The backs were more then chipping too. I expect Woods was reluctant to change up things mid game we were winning we hadn't practiced a response and change comes with risk so he held tight. I expect he has a designed response at this point. The end of the game with Delpit may be a part of that but if we are going to be faced with doubles across the front we should be able to cook up a response that won't have happy endings for whomever gives it a go of their own.

Going back to game one KC didn't do it, and they spent a good part of the afternoon picking Mahommes up off the ground. This is going to be a season where teams are going to do odd things to try to counter our front, we have to get the little tweaks in place that watch these things explode in their faces when this is done.

But fans calling for the DC to be canned are laughable. We are 2 games into a nearly complete overhaul after we overhauled the O it was mid season before that really took off, and now after 2 games into a similar overhaul of the defense we have dumb fans calling for the DC's head. I think no make that I know this has to be as dumb a response as you will ever see especially after what we saw unfold when similar changes were made to the offense that offense is near unstoppable now and yes it took time. I wonder what would allow them to believe that somehow it would be less painful on the defensive side of the ball? Dumb, dumb, dumb.

I believe in the people, players, and team we have if you don't you never will. This team will come together and they will be everything you could ask for but its not microwave football so stop it.

We have many options as you have pointed out but everything has to blend together and grow, but what you can't do is panic especially when your winning the game. There are 2 things in the NFL W's and L's and when you have #1 in hand you don't introduce #2 by taking risks mid game so you can pile up style points.

Sorry Bone not upset with you but this fan base needs a good bit of good old common sense.....

So we don't need this . . . .:: Putting away the snark repellent, but keeping it within reach.