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Trevor Lawrence had surgery after the season was over.

https://www.nfl.com/news/trevor-lawrence-to-undergo-labrum-surgery-tuesday-on-non-throwing-shoulder

Camryn Justice
@camijustice
#Browns Baker Mayfield throwing compilation from today's open portion of practice.

Video in the link.

https://twitter.com/camijustice/status/1446192620292673544

I have torn my labrum (once) and rotator cuff (twice) on my throwing arm. No bueno.

With a partially torn labrum as a result of the dislocation (same as me except full tear), he will be more susceptible to a subsequent dislocation due to the increased instability in the shoulder joint. He will need surgery in the future, I guarantee it.

I would venture to guess that a lot of the inaccuracy in his throws are a result of changed mechanics to compensate for the injured shoulder as well as the mental aspect of the injury.

I remember when the story came out about Mayfield's shoulder "popping out" in Beckham's first game back. Odell said his shoulder popped out too in that game. Today it was reported that Baker has a torn labrum, and Beckham comes out and says he has played with a torn labrum for 10 years.

As Seinfeld would say, he's a one-upper.

All of that could very well be true - but again the fact that it's out in the public now makes for some potential tough sledding ahead for our offense and coaches IMO - because defenses are going to game plan for this now.

Sounds like a heavy reliance on the running game (obviously), play-action (Baker's bread and butter) and short/quick passing routes. That's all well and good but all of that is likely within 5-10 yards from the LOS. Guess where defenses are going to put about 10 bodies? Passing lanes and windows could get mighty tiny real fast. Good luck Baker and let's hope our defense is for real!

Edit to add - doesn't help that our best route runner, run blocker and short to intermediate pass catcher - which is what we're going to really really need for this type of offense to work - one Jarvis Landry is also sitting on IR.

That explains why baker had happy feet when pressure was near.

Hey Purp, for some reason I'm not seeing twitter posts on an updated and newly built windows PC. I looked at some links and sent Memphis a reply telling him this:



I think something might be going on under the hood though, because until today, I've rarely seen a blank tweet being quoted.

Damn, looks like there is at least a chance we wont have Clowney or ward and possibly jackson and Hubbard. Not good

They said today that Ward and Hill are likely to play.

Yep it's not just you. Not working for any of us. There's a thread in feedback forum already on this topic

https://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/1890727/embedded-twitter-gone-again#Post1890727

But not Clowney? That means the chargers can double team garret without worries of much pressure coming from the other side

I look for the Browns to work the middle of the field more Baker is having issues with outside throws from what I have seen. And I do believe that is a by product of the injury.

I would try to get him in a rhythm early and at least make it have the appearance that he is fine.

The Bolts are sure to load up for the run so that means there should be some chunk plays there to be had.

The key as is always true is to make them defend the entire field. Ski has to be creative in his play calling and work with Bakers limitations while getting the passing game rolling. I might take a long shot early to get them to back off a bit to give ourselves some room to operate.

It's not so important that we hit those plays as it is that there is a real threat that we will try and with OBJ on the field that is always so.

I for sure would spread the field and work outside in slants with OBJ. But Ski will get this offense rolling I truly believe that.

I don't see this as being a high scoring game either BTW. Turnovers must NOT happen and at points we will have to commit ourselves to the run. I truly believe if you give Hunt or Chubb the ball 3x they are going to get 10 yards. Might have to wear them down a bit 1st but come the forth let the running game take them out.

I spread the field and create room for Hunt and Chubb to operate and I pitch the ball out to Chubb and Hunt to get that extra step on outside runs. Spread out Njoku and let him lead outside runs for us.

There is a lot we can do to pressure there defense but Baker must avoid turning the ball over. That is the key he may not be able to win the game for us but he cannot be put in a situation where he can lose it.

We have great coaches will be OK, and we really need to just sorta hang around then about mid point of the third quarter the run game will start chewing them up.

j/c...

Daryl Ruiter
@RuiterWrongFAN
#Browns DE Myles Garrett (knee/ankle), LT Jedrick Wills Jr. (ankle), CB Greg Newsome II (calf), OT Chris Hubbard (triceps) did not practice today. CB Denzel Ward, DE Takk McKinley, LB Malcolm Smith, C JC Tretter, TE David Njoku, & DE Jadeveon Clowney returned after being DNPs

https://twitter.com/RuiterWrongFAN/status/1446497211790016513

Zac Jackson
@AkronJackson
Browns game status update:

Out: Hubbard, Newsome

Questionable: Clowney, Fields, Garrett, Hill, McKinley, Njoku, M. Smith, Tretter, Ward, Wills

https://twitter.com/AkronJackson/status/1446514035344609280

Hubbard is a bummer... his triceps injury going the wrong way (DNP --> Limited --> DNP) is worrisome, IMO.

Is Stefanski extremely liberal in putting down names on the injury list? It seems like we see a long list of names followed with the phrase "abundance of caution" quite a bit. This is what I'm telling myself because whenever I see our injury lists my heart rate spikes.

With Stefanski the questionable list usually seems to be overinflated in comparison to how many of them end up playing. I try to not read much into that list.

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1446587383466635270?s=21

Hubbard out for the year

That royally sucks, but at least we can go get someone else, now.

I'm sure you are correct. Help me out, how can Baker be left off the injury report. Brady had his problem last year and didn't disclose it....is this the new norm for QBs. I thought the NFL was considering taking away draft picks because Brady wasn't on Tampa Bay's reports. Could we be penalized for not disclosing Mayfield's injury....now that it is common knowledge. Go Browns!!!

Just guessing that Baker's full participation in practice exempts him from being listed?

Wills has been ruled out for tomorrow.

That LT spot is going to be a mess, No Wills and no Hubbard...Hopefully Hence can step up big

That sucks! With facing Bosa, that's going to be tough.

Yeah it sucks but if we do what you said in another thread and give whoever replaces him help we will be fine.

Yup Conklin will have his hands full with Bosa, and they do sometimes flip him over the other side, ekk to whomever is playing LT tomorrow...Should be interesting to watch how we handle it.

Bosa USUALLY goes against the RT. Obviously I think Bolts will test out the left side of the OL.

Browns hopefully won’t have to worry about it too much with Chubb and Hunt each getting 25 carries
https://twitter.com/DawgsByNature/status/1446889648962392073

And the RB carries are no joke.

This Chargers D lets you get away with the run, just tries to stop the passing game. Plus, Baker's injury. I think there is a heavy run workload tomorrow.

The Chargers will try to exploit our weakness. That's what all well coached teams do. If you don't think Bosa will be trying to exploit the left side of our OL, just watch.

Sucks about Hubbard and Wills. Our LT spot is a concern for me

Oh trust me I already know, they will be flipping Bosa back and forth all game

Me too...I'm thinking we may just have to to work the quick passes, to prevent Baker from getting crushed on that blindside.

It’ll likely be Hudson.

Run the heavy package with three TEs, Double him and concentrate on the short pass when not running it. Bootlegs away from his side.

Good point. This might be the case today