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That’s a hard loss

The injuries though hurt even more than the loss. Next week we play cardinals without all 3 starting corners and both starting offensive tackles

this was a Clash of the Titans kind of game.

but.....we wouldnt even be talking about a loss if it wasn't for the horrible referee's.


that DPI on 4th down was just absolutely inexcusable.

Definitely felt like the fix was in. Yay, legalized gambling.

Horrible play calling by KS in the 4th quarter.

We have no one on D left to play the Cards on Sunday.

Refs wearing powder blue.

A typical Browns loss.

I've had enough.

As good as Baker played this game will not put to rest any notion among many that he just isn’t an elite, clutch finisher.

Not really happy with the Stefanski play calling with 3 minutes to go where the Browns wound up going 3 and out. That was the game.

bro i know. i mean i hate blaming refs for L's but damn it felt like they did everything possible to help the chargers win.

and i dont want to hear a word about baker.

the last 2 drives is on Stefanski calling horrible plays.

That DPI on green was a terrible call.

Poor refereeing for sure but the offense put up 42 and lost. This is completely on defense. Again. No other team worries about losing putting up 42.

On the drive before the last one where you punted to the Chargers, Chubb wasn't on the field at all. Why? Is he banged up?

--Browns got out coached and out ref'ed today.

--I know they want Baker to have less turnovers, but when you coach the gunslinger out of the gunslinger, you don't have any bullets when you need to bring a gun to a gunslinger fight. Maybe that's why Stefanski made that bull crap, chicken chit run call on 3rd and 10 knowing his defense couldn't stop the Chargers. What a gutless attempt at coaching.

--Baker is, well, this is why I'm so critical of Baker. If you don't have a QB who can bring you back, you could still win a lot of games, but you won't go the distance. I had no belief he would deliver a game winning drive. 1:30 is an eternity for a good QB. He wasted most of that just to get 12 yards.

--It ruined what was a nice bounce back game for him that will hopefully build some confidence moving forward. It wasn't an elite game. They didn't want to put the ball in his hands. Meanwhile, the Chargers were all about Herbert.

--Baker, throw the ball to OBJ. Please. He's open all game long. Why won't you throw the ball to OBJ?

--Gillan is awful.

--Defense reverting back to the mean. Couldn't make a play to save their lives.

--Cardinals next week. Could this Super Bowl contender start out 3-3?

Bakers a good dude. Funny guy. Easy to root for.

He is Not an elite QB. I like him. He’s a middle-of-the-pack QB with elite weapons.

Can you imagine what Tom Brady would do with this offense? Lamar Jackson? Ben?

I love the kid. He’s not elite.

He doesn't trust Baker to make plays. I still believe he should have called those plays more aggressively, but when you watch your QB miss wide open guys all game long, it's not confidence inspiring.

The difference between the Chargers and the Browns is that no matter the situation Herbert was going to give them a chance. For the Browns, as soon as they went down and needed a game winning drive for the win, they had no chance.

I disagree. What cost us the game was two wide open, uncovered Chargers for 50+ yards TDs. The refs had nothing to do with that.

Horrible PI call
Horrible play calling on drive with 3 min left
Horrible 2 minute drill, not sure if that's on Baker or Ski or both.

And was it just me or did 71 OL from the Chargers flinch his arm before almost every snap?

We had 500 yards and 0 TOs and lost

Yep

Brutal.

- Aj Green and Greedy played their asses off.

- Refs gave LAC a TD. Horrible.

- Chubb and Hunt are an amazing duo.

- Injuries piling up.

- Breakout game for Njoku.

- Jamie Gillan needs to go. He's been bad for awhile.

- The legend of Chase McLaughlin grows.

- Everyone just stopped on the Hail Mary when Njoku fell.

- Stefanski choked at the end of the game. A run on 3rd and 10? Really. Your punter can't kick it more than 40 yards and the defense was not stopping Herbert. Cannot give him the ball back in that situation. Staley nearly botched it by just not having Herbert take a knee.

- 7 yard passes over the middle with no timeouts. Yikes.

- OBJ not really a part of the game plan.

If it's determined by the end of the season that Mayfield isn't the guy - if I'm the Browns GM, I'm calling Seattle and attempting to trade for Russell Wilson. Because he's going to waste up there with the current state of the Seahawks.

Having a difficult time processing this one. This is a tough loss.

Sure, the bull-crap DPI was a difference maker. But it would have been nice to see the D make a stop. Our DBs were abused this entire game.

KS was out-coached. The play-calling got really bad. Maybe bonus points for actually running on 4th and short ... the QB can't get sacked.

We put up 42. This loss can only go on the D. And the play-calling late. A three and out at that point was about the worst thing that could have happened. Of course, we immediately gave up a 30-yard play.

They’re not even trying with OBJ. I gotta think we could probably figure out a more affordable decoy if I’m the front office.

Seattle or hot take time ...

Aaron Rodgers will be a Brown next year.

Your opinion and you are welcome to it - but [1] it's complete and total conjecture. [2] I think it's BS and driven by your agenda which is either anti-Baker or trying to get folks on the board to react to your biased schtck.

The Browns have to figure out by the end of the year if the problem is the QB, or the WR. I know which way I'm leaning as of right now.

2 Things

1. We will get an apology letter tomorrow on the bad DPI call

2. Why was Chubb Not in the Game when we were ahead 42-41 I love Hunt but Chubb is a grinder and gets the yards needed

Looking forward to the rinse and repeat KS presser.

“I have to do a better job of putting these guys in the right situations.”

We know that, Kev.

He called those plays because he knows who his QB is.

This. Run him up the middle and he'd fall for at least 5. Run Hunt around the side for a loss. Unreal

Possible. But Rodgers is older, and tends to be more temperamental than Wilson.

We've done this too many times. It's never good. I always see us getting marched off the field 3 and out. It never fails. Better plays and execution is never ever there. Something has to be done.

Especially in the 4th Q where Chubb becomes virtually unstoppable.

I thought it was curious that we had Hunt in the game instead of Chubb

I don't at this time really have any thoughts on that game that weren't widely evident by watching it.
I watched the game, I did not run a marathon, or play volleyball for 3 and a half hours, but, physically I feel like it.

I may not have the ticker I did even pre 2019.

Those poor players, man, they deserve better. (And I'm not talking about from the coaches, I'm talking about from the officiating.)

Coaching and mediocre QB play cost us just as much as the refs. Defense did it self no favors but they atleast had an excuse with everyone going down. We need better linebackers. I said before the season that everyone is putting way to much confidence that Walker is an upgrade...he is not, Goodson is a better linebacker. The middle was open all day and Woods couldn't find a way to mitigate it. On offense, Stefanski once again proves that he should give up playcalling and just be a HC. If the run game isn't working the offense looks like every browns offense since 99. I think theres something to be said about Baker not being allowed to sling it. They basically took Aaron Rodgers and turned him in to trent dilfer. If that is indeed the case then that even more so proves KS should hand off playcalling. Everything was short and YAC today and it worked well until we needed to be able to open up and get yards in the air in chunks and we couldn't..Baker is still the 4th best QB in our division in terms of playmaking ability. If they truly want to know what they have they have to turn him loose and let him play. Live with the turnovers, every QB has them and thats how they learn what their limits or the receivers limits are.

Basically we are a running team that has to have alot of things go right for us to win. Our defense is mediocre because we have alot of guys playing in a scheme that doesn't suit their strengths, but the defense has shown when healthy can get to the passer. Thats atleast and identity to build on. Coaching really needs to improve from playcalling on both sides.

Gillan has been bad since last year. Punters are dime a dozen, we shouldn't be keeping on with this guy. Its always the worst time he shanks one too.

The good, pretty much chubb, hunt and Njoku. The oline did well today considering. As long as chubb and hunt are healthy we are going to win games.

My agenda is I'm pro-Browns. The coaching was bad today, the defense was bad today, the Browns were jobbed by the refs. It happens every week in the NFL. And we still had a chance to win; we just needed a game winning drive. The difference between the real winners and losers is the QB position despite those things.

As soon as the Browns needed a game winning drive to win the game, they were done. We don't have that kind of QB.

I wish we did because I'm pro-Browns.

It's in the best interest of everyone if Baker could be that guy. I would love if Baker could be that guy. Nothing would make me happier. In year 4, I haven't seen it. It's year 4. How much longer do we have to wait before making the call he's not clutch.

He's the quarterback. I am going to root my butt off for him and the team. I just don't have any confidence that the Browns can win it all with him. I would love to be proven wrong. But just show me.

1) Officiating.
2) Stefanski horrible play calls at end of game.
3) Stefanski's inability to get his best WR involved in the game
4) Officiating.

Beyond frustrated with the playcalling. You have the best RB tandem in the league, and pass on 2nd and 10?

everyone says that about AR but the reality is, he only gets that way because GB keeps refusing to get him skill position players. He'd kill it here.. I rather have AR than Wilson tbh, I'm sick of shorter Qb's. Though both are tremendous deep ball throwers which baker is probably the worst, you couldn't keep secondary up to support run like they do with us now.