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Did you see the Broncos when we played them? They're not doing anything this year, and Von Miller's time is coming to a close.

I saw (obviously). I just can't imagine being a fan of a team with a 30ish% chance of making the playoffs and the team throws the white flag. Brutal. Also, imagine being a player on the actual team. The front office is basically telling you to pack it in.

That would be the message I would get out of it. This type of move is usually done by basement dwelling teams. Not teams playing .500 ball mid way through the season.

Granted, this was coming from the talking heads during the game, but the word on Denver is that they're done. Between injuries and just bad play, that 30% chance is misleading.

j/c:

Chiefs need pass rushing help so it makes sense

j/c:

Emphasis on the second sentence more than the first.

I'd consider trading OBJ to either NO for Michael Thomas or to HOU for Brandin Cooks if deals could be worked out. But, I'm not sure I'm ready to give up on OBJ yet - he hasn't been his old self since returning (you could argue he hasn't been his old self at all on the Browns, lol)

I read something yesterday (don't have the link) about us trading for Xavien Howard - Ward and Hunt were both mentioned (not as a package). Not sure how much that makes sense unless we know Ward won't accept what we'd be willing to offer on an extension, and I don't think anyone wants to get rid of Hunt regardless of how well Johnson has played. I wouldn't be surprised if Tennessee reached out to us about Johnson with Henry being injured, despite the Peterson signing.

I also read yesterday that the Browns may have interest in Andre Dillard and Cody Ford both and backup OL since we've had so many OL injuries. If we do any trades, these guys make the most sense to me.

This all said, I don't think we do anything - we're not good enough to be buyers or bad enough to be sellers at this point. I wish the trading deadline was week 10 or 12 so teams had a better idea if they were legit playoff contenders or not.

The time has come to trade OBJ away. He's never done anything for this team but kill it, Baker, and the offense.

He needs to go today. Let's get this done.

we can't. his cap hit would makes it impossible.

This is not true.

no one in their right mind is going to take his 9.7 million cap hit for OBJ. Plus, we would have to take his cap hit

Correct. While it won't be easy, it is not impossible. If I'm not mistaken on the way the cap works, here's why...I believe he's owed about $8m of the 15.5m, so we'd take the dead cap hit of 15.5, but save on the $8m. We have $9m space, so we could absorb the $7.5m difference. Taking on a new salary would be harder to absorb, as it'd likely require someone else on the team to re-work a deal (or we'd have to cut someone in the top 53 that doesn't have a negative cap impact by cutting).

I agree that no one would take on the money but we can take on some of the money to make the deal more amenable for the other team (like the Broncos did with Von Miller).

Detroit has no WRs
John Dorsey is in Detroit
John Dorsey traded for OBJ......

There are only a few teams that can take on OBJ without us eating some money. Most of them are bad teams. The others are good at receiver. The Chargers have $10,713,723 in cap space and would make some sense.

I would eat the money and move on. OBJ is going to be gone in 2022. Get a pick and start fresh now.

If a team wants to trade us and eat half his money I’d do it immediately

It probably would have to be more than half.

If we wanted to trade OBJ, which it doesn't seem like we want to do, then I would gladly eat the money to get more compensation. Like I said before, is there a team that wants him?

Now that OBJ’s father has stepped into the fray…

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...post-shows-baker-mayfield-not-passing-jr

Time to unload him. I don’t care if they simply cut him. If they can get some used footballs for him that would be fine.

OBJ’s dad cares
Kind of like Eric Wright’s dad
You remember that?

"We're 1-7 and don't have have our first round pick because we traded up when didn't have to and now can't afford to give up more picks."

Packers? 49ers? Patriots?

I don't think it's going to happen.

What would a team look at that would make them think "we need to make a deal for this guy right now"?

Dude is going to be a FA. His production is down and has been down since we got him (and was trending down before that). His $$$ is high. He's beat to hell (one or more shoulder injuries to go along with the litany of stuff he's recently recovered from).

I think we're stuck with him. I'm hoping that we're taking a serious look at what/who we're putting out there. Stefanski's hands are tied right now due to injuries to our passcatchers. OBJ has to be out there because the alternative is Schwartz.

They don't need to have OBJ, or Schwartz out there. They have Landry, they have Higgins, they have Njoku.
and others.

Womp womp

Nobody cares as much as Colt's dad.

True but they aren't going anywhere with Miller. They are looking to the future.

Yeah but the Steelers basically gave him away. Too bad we couldn't get that deal. LOL

Nobody is taking OBJ. Damaged goods. Price tag too high. Browns would be lucky to get a bag of peanuts for this guy. He's done here in Cleveland. Landry, DPJ and Higgins are the guys going forward. I don't care what OBJ's Dad says. LOL

The best thing we can do is reduce his role in the offense... but we can't do that until DPJ gets healthy. Landry rebounding and being able to stay on the field probably wouldn't hurt either.

ESPN has a tweet embedded in the story below that I found interesting. I couldn't add the tweet to DT, sorry. I did copy the text below the link. In other news it looks like we cut Stanton - I wonder if Janovich or someone else is coming off the IR this week or if we're signing someone that was cut (Desean (please no), Jaylon Smith,...)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32204033/nfl-trade-deadline-2021-all-rumors-news-deals-reaction

Browns, Saints discussed deal for OBJ

KimberLEY A. Martin
@ByKimberleyA
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Nov 2, 2021
For now, OBJ remains in CLE … despite him not wanting to be there. #browns
KimberLEY A. Martin
@ByKimberleyA
I’m told there were discussions re: Odell going to the #Saints — but both sides couldn’t agree on a workable deal, given how much OBJ is owed the rest of the year.

Plus, there still is optimism in the #Browns building that OBJ can be a big part of their second-half playoff push
1:03 PM · Nov 2, 2021

The Saints have 1.4 mil in cap room. I seriously doubt this was a long discussion

You don't care that OBJs' father is corrrect?

IMO the damaged goods is Baker!

We would have had taken on the contract.

I disagree.

Plus, letting a father get involved only furthers and gap there was.