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Yes sir. Hope it can last another round of onslaughts if need be.


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In many states they're trying to stack the deck so it won't. Trump is actively promoting the election of other candidates in cases where anyone stood up for a fair election which insured he lost. He is trying to help elect Trump loyalists who would in fact help him and other Republicans steal the next election.

In Bid for Control of Elections, Trump Loyalists Face Few Obstacles

A movement animated by Donald J. Trump’s 2020 election lies is turning its attention to 2022 and beyond.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/11/us/politics/trust-in-elections-trump-democracy.html


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For any Americans who consider themselves as patriots and believe in the Constitution.

trump, Bannon and his cult followers are trying to take over and disolve the Constitution.

That is fact.

So those misguided people carrying that banner. Look in the mirror and think about what you really want to happen.

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House can get Trump White House documents, Supreme Court rules.

Say goodbye to the Orange Brat.

It will prove what the traitor was doing all along.

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House can get Trump White House documents, Supreme Court rules.

Say goodbye to the Orange Brat.

It will prove what the traitor was doing all along.

yes, SCOTUS voted to Allow the records to be released.. The only Justice that was against the release,, Thomas. The same one whos wife thought the Jan 6 Rioters were victims.


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When all this comes out maybe people will realize what a scumbag this creep is.

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I doubt it.


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Some in the GOP did try to steal an election, and failed.

System working as intended.

Someday I'd like to see Trumpians excuse for this.. I mean, really. How do they explain this? So far, fake electors in Arizona, Wisconsin and Michigan. I think they had a group in PA but not sure. I'd like to hear the explanation for Trumps actions on the Phone Call to Raffensburger (sp). Lots of witnesses and a recording. I'd like them to defend that as anything other than a feeble attempt by a desperate man trying to save face and himself from prosecution.

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PA and NM electors sent in a qualified statement that relied upon a court decision.

Nevada and Georgia sent in false electoral votes.


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In the swing states Ga., Pa., Wi., Mi., Nm., Ar., Nv., Giulaini lined up supporters to fill elector slots, secured meeting rooms in statehouses for the fake electors to meet on December 14, 2020, and circulated drafts of fake certificates that were ultimately sent to the National Archives.

These are republicans who were ready, willing, and able to steal a presidential election.

The same group of people who have been spewing that the election was stolen.

This is unreal to me. And these people call themselves Americans.

Corruption knows no bounds.

If that is not treason what is?

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You're preaching to the choir because anyone who actually needs to hear all of this, simply isn't listening.


Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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Or in other words... a conspiracy to commit election fraud?


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Trump Is The 'First Sedition POTUS': Watergate Icon Says Trump Worse Than Criminal Nixon


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Originally Posted by bonefish
In the swing states Ga., Pa., Wi., Mi., Nm., Ar., Nv., Giulaini lined up supporters to fill elector slots, secured meeting rooms in statehouses for the fake electors to meet on December 14, 2020, and circulated drafts of fake certificates that were ultimately sent to the National Archives.

These are republicans who were ready, willing, and able to steal a presidential election.

The same group of people who have been spewing that the election was stolen.

This is unreal to me. And these people call themselves Americans.

Corruption knows no bounds.

If that is not treason what is?

Be interesting if any of the Trumpians want to try and justify or suggest this isn't a big deal! Maybe they were all just arranging tourist visits to their statehouses.


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In so many ways I am disheartened by people inside the republican party and the voters supporting them.

And I am not against conservative republicans or the republican party before trump.

trump has poisoned the people of this country. He raised a platform of bigotry and lies and empowered hatred of others.
And many jumped on board as followers.

it is disgusting behavior for a country founded upon the constitution.

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I am assuming you have all seen the report on the draft proposal/plan to have the Nat Guard seize all the voting machines? LOL.

Nothing to see here - it wasn't enacted. It was just a draft !! lmfao. I think some of these Trump supporters would have had their head explode if Obama or Hilary had some sort of draft plan like this. It's beyond belief.


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Opps - the Trump Stooges won't have seen the news. I just searched Fox News and found nada on that story. Shocker.


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trump's entire existence has been based upon corruption, fraud, and lies.

When he was five years old. His father was "gifting" him money to avoid taxes. Large amounts of money half million a year.

When he graduated from high school. He paid someone to take his college entrance exams.

When he entered his father's real estate business it was proved in court that they were practicing discrimating policies aimed at not allowing Blacks to rent any of their properties.

He bankrupted casinos. He didn't pay contractors who worked on his properties. trunp university was proven to be a fraud.

His entire life has been based upon corruption, quid pro quo and fraud.

Then he lied about the pandemic and false drugs to cure it.

Then Jan 6th.

And now with 700 pages of documents are going to the House documenting his actions of coup attempt.

And yes, now evidence of a plan to have the National Guard seize voting machines.

What a resume? Right.

One of the most corrupt, evil people to be born on earth.

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Draft Trump order suggested seizing voting machines based on Antrim irregularities

A draft presidential order written while President Donald Trump was still in office suggested using a conspiracy theory involving voting irregularities in Antrim County in the 2020 election to justify the Defense Department seizing voting machines.

The order, which was never issued and was part of a group of documents Trump and administration officials had tried to shield from a U.S. House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol, was first reported on Friday by Politico, which obtained and released a copy of it.

As Politico noted, it wasn't clear who wrote the order and how seriously, if at all, it was ever considered by the Trump administration. It also wasn't clear what machines might be seized, though it references events in Michigan and in Georgia, another state where Trump and his allies disputed the result.

Meanwhile, the order referenced widely debunked concerns about voting machines in Antrim and elsewhere as justification for the Defense Department to seize and analyze voting machines, an unheard of step in U.S. history.

It also called for that analysis to be turned over to federal intelligence officials and a special counsel to be appointed to consider criminal charges. The draft order was dated Dec. 16, 2020, as Trump and his supporters continued to advance baseless claims of voting machine irregularities and fraud that cost him the election to President Joe Biden in several key swing states, including Michigan. A mob attacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, as Congress met to certify the results showing Biden as the winner.

The House committee is looking into "the facts, circumstances and causes" of that attack.

The second paragraph of the draft order begins, "I, Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, find that the forensic report of the Antrim County, Michigan voting machines, released December 13, 2020, and other evidence submitted to me in support of this order, provide probable cause sufficient to require action... because of evidence of international and foreign interference in the November 3, 2020, election."

The order went on to make allegations of vulnerabilities in the Dominion Voting System machines used by Antrim County and many other jurisdictions that they somehow allowed votes to be changed. Those claims have been debunked, as have claims that the company was controlled by foreign enemies of the U.S.

Antrim County became a center of the controversy after it initially reported unofficial results showing Biden winning the staunchly Republican county. But officials there quickly determined that changes in the ballot made in some precincts, but not all, led to the initial misreading and it was caught and fixed, showing Trump as the winner.

A outside consultant's report, cited in the draft executive order, tried to make the case that the voting system used in Antrim was "intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results." A hand tally of the county's results showed a net gain of just 12 votes for Trump, a far from unusual change following a hand count.

Attorney General William Barr, it has been reported, told Trump personally there was no widespread fraud in the election. And on the day the draft order was written, Dec. 16, Chris Krebs, the former chief of the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, called the report cited in the order "factually inaccurate," as the Free Press reported at the time.

"I'm seeing these reports that are factually inaccurate continue to be promoted," Krebs told a Senate committee. "We have to stop this. It's undermining confidence in democracy."

This article originally appeared on Detroit Free Press: Draft order suggested seizing voting machines based on Antrim issues

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Georgia to impanel grand jury in probe of Trump bid to overturn 2020 election

Jan 24 (Reuters) - The Georgia prosecutor investigating then-U.S. President Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in the state will be allowed to seat a special grand jury to subpoena witnesses to testify against him.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis last week sought to have a special grand jury aid her investigation into the Republican leader's efforts to pressure officials in a state where he lost to Joe Biden. read more

The Fulton County Superior Court approved the request on Monday, according to a court filing. The grand jury will commence on May 2 and convene for up to a year.

A Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

A Democrat, Willis launched the investigation after Trump was recorded in a Jan. 2, 2021, phone call pressuring Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a fellow Republican, to "find" enough votes to overturn his loss. Raffensperger declined.

The transcript quotes Trump telling Raffensperger: "I just want to find 11,780 votes," which is the number Trump needed to win Georgia. Trump has for months before and after the November 2020 election made false claims of voter fraud.

Jan 24 (Reuters) - The Georgia prosecutor investigating then-U.S. President Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in the state will be allowed to seat a special grand jury to subpoena witnesses to testify against him.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis last week sought to have a special grand jury aid her investigation into the Republican leader's efforts to pressure officials in a state where he lost to Joe Biden. read more

The Fulton County Superior Court approved the request on Monday, according to a court filing. The grand jury will commence on May 2 and convene for up to a year.

A Trump spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

A Democrat, Willis launched the investigation after Trump was recorded in a Jan. 2, 2021, phone call pressuring Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a fellow Republican, to "find" enough votes to overturn his loss. Raffensperger declined.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis speaks at a news conference in Atlanta, Georgia, U.S., May 11, 2021. Picture taken May 11, 2021. REUTERS/Linda So

The transcript quotes Trump telling Raffensperger: "I just want to find 11,780 votes," which is the number Trump needed to win Georgia. Trump has for months before and after the November 2020 election made false claims of voter fraud.

In a statement last week, Trump defended what he called his "perfect" phone call.

Legal experts have said Trump's phone calls may have violated at least three state election laws: conspiracy to commit election fraud, criminal solicitation to commit election fraud and intentional interference with performance of election duties. The possible felony and misdemeanor violations are punishable by fines or imprisonment.

In a recent court filing, Willis specifically mentioned that Raffensperger, whom she described as an "essential witness," had indicated he would only take part in an interview once presented with a subpoena.

In Georgia, a special grand jury can issue subpoenas forcing witnesses to testify but cannot issue indictments. Unlike a traditional grand jury, a special grand jury is devoted to just one case, making it a powerful investigative tool.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/gover...nd-jury-trump-election-probe-2022-01-24/

The article did not include where Trump insinuated that Raffensperger was committing a crime and could be prosecuted for it.


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Was this directed at me mgh888?


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No it was a reply to the thread and was aimed at the lack of any response from the Trump faithful who were claiming Jan 6 was overblown.


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Oh the Trump supporting posters that will still publically admit it, will never admit they were wrong. They are still trying to blame progressives and antifa. Or trotting out their latest whataboutism and other Russian/Trumpian deception tactics. Never in my life would I have thought there would be so many traitorous American sympathizers for a POTUS who attempted to end democracy with a coup in the USA. How damn shameful can you act, anyway? Nope, now they just pile on Biden with garbage everyday thinking/hoping the distraction will somehow justify the way Republicans act or make us forget all the crap Trump did. SMH, I don't even recognize America anymore. The world now thinks Americans are bat crap crazy thanks to Trumpism. I see no way that this country could survive another POTUS like him or this iteration of the GOP moving forward.

And I don't want it to happen, but I think we will experience an insurgent type civil war before we rid ourselves of this Trumpism plague. And this is all the more reason to make SURE those responsible for the 6th pay the heftiest of prices.

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The hardcore sick cool aid drinkers will remain.

However, it must be remembered trump lost the popular vote twice. The second time by around 8 million votes.

I think it highly unlikely that those who voted against trump would change their minds.

Independents Biden won 52% to 43%.

Now with the recent news that SCOTUS will allow all the documents to go to Congress. The other slime ball things like the call to Georgia to get him the votes, the voting machines being seized, Giuliani and the fake elector scheme is all exposed.

The over head light will not make the orange brat look to good.

So just maybe the country will move away from the poison trump brought.

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Trump Senate Pick Tells Crowd to ‘Lock and Load’ to Combat Election Fraud

A candidate for the Michigan state Senate advised a crowd of apparent prospective poll workers to “show up armed” in order to “make sure justice is wrought” and avoid election fraud, according to footage of the meeting posted to social media on Sunday. In the video, Mike Detmer, a Trump endorsee, can be seen speaking to a crowd with Michigan gubernatorial candidate Ryan D. Kelley. Detmer explains that if “we can’t change the tide… we need to be prepared to lock and load.” His remarks follow Kelley’s advice to the group, also captured in the footage: “If you see something you don’t like happening with the [voting] machines, if you see something wrong, unplug it from the wall.” Michigan’s attorney general, Dana Nessel, was quick to respond to the footage on Sunday, noting that it is illegal to tamper with tabulation devices or attempt to intimidate voters through the use of firearms. Detmer seemed pleased with the attention, tweeting, “Hey Dana… MOLAN LABE!” in a misspelling of the ancient Greek saying—and favorite expression of the far-right—molon labe, meaning, “Come and take them.”



Yet another Republican telling people to commit criminal acts.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/michi...o-lock-and-load-to-combat-election-fraud

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The entire 6th saga marks a clear path to trump as a traitor.

There is no other conclusion to be drawn. He admitted it. His intent was to overthrow the election.


Definition of traitor

1 : one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty. 2 : one who commits treason.

The election was proven in the court of law to be valid. trump's obligation of office was the transfer of power after the election.


He is a traitor by his own words and actions.

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"If you ever had any doubt whatsoever that former Vice President Mike Pence was a duplicitous, disloyal POS, this stunning article will remove any doubt. Pence and his staff of 'political advisors' were working to undermine President Trump [and replace him with Mike Pence] from day ONE," right-wing strategist Roger Stone wrote in a message to his Telegram subscribers on Thursday. Stone linked to a Substack article written by Emerald Robinson, titled The Treachery of VP Mike Pence Explained.

Steve Bannon, who served as CEO of Trump's 2016 campaign, called Pence a "coward" in a segment of his War Room podcast on Friday. "Pence, you're going to carry this thing eventually to your grave, OK?" Bannon said. "Because it is a mark of shame. You are a stone-cold coward."

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Bannon and Stone share the banner with trump. Traitors plural of traitor.

At the very least they should be all be exiled from all American territories. Their citizenship should be revoked.

They are not Americans. They don't deserve the honour None of them have done a thing for this country except plot to overthrow a fair and proven election.

In any other time and place in history. They would be tried and executed.

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During the Friday edition of his War Room: Pandemic podcast, Bannon dubbed Pence a "stone-cold coward" for daring to challenge Trump's false claim that he had the power to legally overturn the outcome. Bannon argued that Pence's rebuke of Trump was a "mark of shame."

"Pence, you're going to carry this thing eventually to your grave, OK?" said Bannon. "Because it is a mark of shame. And you are a stone-cold coward. A stone-cold coward."

Bannon also blasted Pence's former Chief of Staff Marc Short for earlier this week testifying to the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"My head's blowing up," Bannon said. "I can't take Pence. And I can't take Pence and Marc Short and all these Koch guys up there ratting out Trump up on Capitol Hill right now."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...old-coward-for-rebuking-trump/ar-AATuso0

Yeah, see, you dirty rats. Youz all turned to the coppers and ratted out Blubber Fett. Now you're gonna sleep with the fishes.

And just so we're clear.....

rat out phrasal verb

rat somebody out (to somebody) (especially North American English)

to tell somebody in authority about something wrong that somebody else has done

Someone ratted us out to the police.

The college was ratting out students for music piracy.

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Which is it?

Midterm posturing? Moving away (attempting to) from Trump? Both?


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Both. He’s a very calculated politician. I think he’s trying to stave off what many see as being an inevitable fracture in the party where the controlling portion is one that cannot sustainably hold a majority.


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Mitch sees the big ass legal broom that's about to sweep through his party and would prefer to hold the dust pan, then to be swept away with the debris of crumbling Trumpism.


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You guys are funny.Year and a half later and you are still running around with your hair on fire. Who do you lefties think Republicans should vote for? Biden , Kamela, AOC ? and you call us traders?

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Originally Posted by Dawg Duty
You guys are funny.Year and a half later and you are still running around with your hair on fire. Who do you lefties think Republicans should vote for? Biden , Kamela, AOC ? and you call us traders?

I have never called you a trader. I might have said traitor, traitorous, or even nincompoop… but never trader. And you should vote for whom you want. We just wish you could see truth and become an educated voter before casting your vote for the worst people on earth. And we don't care if you are republican or not, as long as you are not a Trumpian insurrectionist trying to bring down our democracy. You still have the right to vote for whom you want, we just want that person to be part of a party that still fights for and works to make our democracy a better place. That's not who the Republican Party is right now. Nope, they think insurrections are normal political discourse.

Last edited by OldColdDawg; 02/09/22 03:59 PM.

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You mean lefties like McConnell?



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