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Obviously in your world facts disappear.

Are you saying he didn't try to overthrow an election?

Conviction please, just one will finally do.


Soon I will have another Newspaper headline reading "Exonerated!!!" to go with the other 3.

Pfft.

traitorous.

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

Yet here you are throwing them.

Insurrectionists don't matter.

Official: Meadows had been warned of possible 1/6 violence

By FARNOUSH AMIRI, ERIC TUCKER and MARY CLARE JALONICK
yesterday
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WASHINGTON (AP) — A former White House official told the House committee investigating the Capitol riot that President Donald Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, had been advised of intelligence reports showing the potential for violence, according to just-released transcripts.

Cassidy Hutchinson, a special assistant in the Trump White House, told the committee “there were concerns brought forward” to Meadows before the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, but it was unclear what Meadows did with that information.

“I just remember Mr. Ornato coming in and saying that we had intel reports saying that there could potentially be violence on the 6th,” Hutchinson said, presumably referencing Anthony Ornato, a senior Secret Service official. “And Mr. Meadows said: ‘All right. Let’s talk about it.’”

The exact nature of what Meadows was told is not clear from Hutchinson’s testimony. Though law enforcement had been bracing for potential violence on Jan. 6, officials had not properly accounted for the prospect that a violent mob would attack the Capitol.

The filing late Friday is the latest in a long legal fight over the extent to which Meadows, whose proximity to Trump has made him a key target of House Democrats, can be forced to cooperate with the committee’s investigation. Meadows has handed over thousands of text messages, but he has refused to sit for an interview, has argued that he is immune from having to testify by virtue of his White House position, and has sued the committee.


The filing seeks a court ruling in the committee’s favor that Meadows has no valid basis to refuse to testify. It says the committee has refined the scope of its request to focus on seven specific topics, including testimony about communication with Congress before Jan. 6, 2021; White House plans to replace the leadership of Justice Department so the department could pursue Trump’s bogus claims of election fraud; and efforts to create alternate, or fake, slates of state electors who could change the outcome of the vote of the 2020 election that Democrat Joe Biden won.

The committee released excerpts of testimony from multiple witnesses it has interviewed, including Hutchinson. Besides describing warnings of potential violence provided to Meadows, Hutchinson revealed how the White House counsel’s office cautioned against plans to enlist fake electors in states, including in meetings involving Meadows and Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

The filing also includes new text messages that Meadows turned over, including several from House Republicans who were pushing the former North Carolina congressman to act. Meadows’ close friend, Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio, suggests in a late text on Jan. 5, 2021 — the day before Congress was due to certify Biden’s victory — that Vice President Mike Pence “should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all.”


Meadows texted back in the early hours of Jan. 6: “I have pushed for this. Not sure it is going to happen.” Pence ultimately resisted the overwhelming pressure from Trump and his allies and did not attempt to object to Biden’s certification.

Rep. Scott Perry, R-Pa., was texting Meadows as early as Dec. 26, 2020: “Mark, just checking in as time continues to count down. 11 days to 1/6 and 25 days to inauguration. We gotta get going!”

In the texts released by the committee, Perry encouraged Meadows to talk to Jeffrey Clark, an assistant attorney general who was sympathetic to Trump’s bogus claims of election fraud. A week later, on Jan. 3, Clark attended a meeting at the White House with Trump, where the prospect of elevating Clark to the role of acting attorney general was discussed — but adamantly resisted by Justice Department officials, who threatened to resign, and White House lawyers. Trump ultimately backed down.

Hutchinson said Meadows talked “frequently” to Clark, and Hutchinson recalled Clark’s presence at the White House and “his frequent outreach and communications.”

In another interview released by the committee Friday, former Justice Department official Steven Engel, then the head of the Office of Legal Counsel, said Clark had suggested that the department provide a legal opinion to Pence regarding the vice president’s authority to object to the certification of the presidential election. Engel said he told Clark that was “absurd” and reminded him that Pence’s role was a ceremonial one as president of the Senate.

The testimony released Friday also reinforced how certain Republicans in Congress were deeply involved in White House discussions about overturning the election in the months leading to the deadly insurrection.

Hutchinson, for instance, described several calls involving Meadows and members of the far-right House Freedom Caucus in late November and early December in which participants discussed what Pence’s role could be on Jan. 6, besides the ceremonial role he was required to play.

On those calls, according to Hutchinson, were representatives from Trump’s legal team, including Giuliani, Jenna Ellis and Sidney Powell, as well as Jordan and Perry.

Meadows’ lawsuit asked a judge to invalidate two subpoenas that he received from the committee, alleging they were “overly broad and unduly burdensome.” The suit accused the committee of overreaching by subpoenaing Verizon for his cellphone records.

After the complaint was filed, the House committee sent a contempt of Congress charge against Meadows to the full House, where it passed on a near-party-line vote. It was the first time the chamber had voted to hold a former member in contempt since the 1830s.

While an earlier contempt referral against former Trump adviser Steve Bannon resulted in an indictment, the Justice Department has been slower to decide whether to prosecute Meadows.

Any criminal case against Meadows would be more complex than that presented against Bannon, in part because Meadows was a White House chief of staff and because he had begun to cooperate with the committee, even providing documents to the nine-member panel.

Meadows’ attorney, George Terwilliger, has previously defended his client by noting that due to Meadows’ willingness to turn over records, he should not be compelled to appear for an interview. Terwilliger did not immediately return an email seeking comment about the latest disclosures.

Answer the question.

Did trump try to overthrow the election? Was his intent to hold the power of office while the voters elected Biden?

You’re asking a troll to expose itself for the troll it is. To defang it’s own troll-ness.
It’ll just clap back with some non answer, or some more troll bait and wait for anyone to take it. Stop replying and it’ll die it’s little pathetic troll death… yelling at clouds that don’t yell back.

You all are foolish for falling for it.

I know. I don't care.

I want to call him out.

Trump hasn't been exonerated from anything.

This may seem strange to ask but why didn't Meadows do something about it.

Keep telling the lie and soon you believe it.

Perhaps you will have something in Part 4. Can't wait.

The insurrection and all of Trump's lies leading up to it are on video and you still don't believe it. You don't have to wait in order to see it.

But it’s like calling out a clown for pulling a string of handkerchiefs out of its pocket. It’s just what it does.
Trolls troll. It’s what they do. You can’t call it out.
Just keep going on with your day. Let the clown be a clown.

Jan 6...

At 2:38 p.m., Trump called for people to "support our Capitol police and law enforcement." He added that people should "stay peaceful" and that officers are "truly on the side of our country."

"I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!" Trump tweeted at 3:13 p.m.

At 4 p.m., hours after the mob started clashing with police, Trump released a video on Twitter telling the crowd that he understood their "pain" and "hurt."

"We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election, and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now," he said. "We have to have peace. We have to have law and order.... So go home. We love you, you're very special.... I know how you feel. But go home and go home in peace."

https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-jan...esident-said-during-capitol-riot-1665967

You sure left a lot of ink on the site when you cherry picked that bit, because the article in its entirety is damning as hell. What a position of weakness, being forced to scour scathing articles for tidbits to twist! lmao@U.

Jan. 4: At a rally in Georgia the day before the Senate runoffs, Trump repeated his grievances about his own election. He spoke about a continued fight, both for himself and the Senate.

“If the liberal Democrats take the Senate and the White House — and they’re not taking this White House — we’re going to fight like hell, I’ll tell you right now,” Trump said.

“We’re going to take it back,” Trump said.

“Our country has had enough,” Trump told his supporters. “We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal.”

The crowd later chanted: “Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump!” Trump thanked them.

Trump praised the crowd for traveling from across the nation and for “the extraordinary love.”

“We’re gathered together in the heart of our nation’s capital for one very, very basic and simple reason: to save our democracy,” Trump said.

Trump repeatedly said there was a need to “fight.” After he bashed “weak” Republicans and Biden, he said: “Unbelievable, what we have to go through, what we have to go through and you have to get your people to fight. If they don’t fight, we have to primary the hell out of the ones that don’t fight. You primary them. We’re going to let you know who they are, I can already tell you, frankly.”

He continued with the fighting metaphors: “Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer, and we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people. We’re going to have to fight much harder, and Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us. And if he doesn’t, that will be a sad day for our country because you’re sworn to uphold our constitution. Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy.”

Trump then invited the crowd to go to the Capitol.

“And after this, we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down. We’re going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here. We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them, because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.”

Trump used the word “peacefully” once at his rally:

“We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time, far longer than this four-year period.”

What Trump said during and after the riot

By the time Trump finished his speech, crowds had already started to gather outside the Capitol.

Trump never joined them, but did tweet during the afternoon and night and released a video statement.

“Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!” he tweeted at 2:38 p.m. By that point, the mob had already shattered windows as they pushed inside the building.

His video statement repeated false claims about the fraudulent election and said, “We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special.”

He rehashed those themes in his final tweet of the night. It ended with these words: “Remember this day forever!”

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checki...nald-trump-said-before-the-capitol-riot/

Show me what he's been completely exonerated.. You should be able to find a link on FOX or Infowars or OAN

Trump is exonerated, forever acquitted

President Donald Trump is acquitted for life!

The Democrats’ impeachment witch hunt has finally come to a close. Here’s the disgraceful sham by the numbers:

134 wasted days not working for the American people.
119 Democrats who supported impeachment before the whistleblower complaint became public.
17 Democrat witnesses called.
0 Republican witnesses called.
3 silver platters Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) used to present celebratory pens for the “solemn” signing ceremony.
33 days Speaker Nancy Pelosi held the extremely “urgent” articles of impeachment.
63 million votes Democrats tried to invalidate due to their hatred of the man in the White House.
The impeachment political hit job lacked due process or fairness for the president, breaking all historical precedent. The Democrats’ unfounded case met its final fate in the Senate where it came crashing down due to lack of facts, evidence, or truth. The White House Defense Team obliterated the sham orchestrated by Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Co. bit by bit.

No quid pro quo. No pressure. No impeachable offense.

Now, this unconstitutional impeachment expedition is the Democrats’ legacy. They are responsible for dividing our country and taking us down a long, hard road of impeachment solely because it’s what their radical base demanded. It’s been the goal since Jan. 20, 2017 when they saw President Trump step foot in the White House, promising to drain the swamp and put America first.

Their legacy of impeachment is all they have to show for their House majority – and the American people will judge them harshly. In the midst of it all, President Trump stood up for America on the world stage and worked to unleash the best economy in the world. He never let the impeachment noise from the swamp stop him.

It’s time to move on now that the Democrats’ efforts to dismiss 63 million Americans have been crushed. The impeachment chapter is closed, and the witch hunt is over.

President Trump is vindicated and acquitted for life.

It’s time to get back to work.

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/politics/482087-trump-is-exonerated-forever-acquitted/

Straight from the horses mouth....

Trump was not exonerated by my report, Robert Mueller tells Congress

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49100778

WASHINGTON — A Senate still bruised from the most violent attack on the Capitol in two centuries acquitted former President Donald J. Trump on Saturday in his second impeachment trial, as all but a few Republicans locked arms to reject a case that he incited the Jan. 6 rampage in a last-ditch attempt to cling to power.

Under the watch of National Guard troops still patrolling the historic building, a bipartisan majority cast votes finding Mr. Trump guilty of the House’s single charge of “incitement of insurrection.” They included seven Republicans, more members of a president’s party than have ever returned an adverse verdict in an impeachment trial.

But with most of Mr. Trump’s party coalescing around him, the 57-to-43 tally fell 10 votes short of the two-thirds majority needed to convict, and allow the Senate to move to disqualify him from holding future office.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/13/us/politics/trump-impeachment.html

So republicans claiming he didn't do it is your evidence? lmao

The man who conducted the investigation said he was not exonerated.

Allow me to spell it out for you...

E X O N E R A T E D

You know... if you're going to be so willfully ignorant that you ignore the realities of politics today, you should at least use the correct word.


Acquit mean he was found not guilty. This can be due to insufficient evidence/not meeting the threshold for legal guilt (or in this case, sufficient politicians not possessing a spine).

Exonerate indicates more than he was proven innocent (not the same thing as acquitted, and not what happened here). Also, I believe someone is exonerated only after they are found guilty and that decision is later reversed.

After inciting the riot... He tried to be the Arsonist first, then tried to put out the fire he started..

TRUMP STARTED IT,, Then TRIED TO ACT LIKE HE STOPPED IT.

Lying sack of Poop

The damning part of that video, if it turns out to be true, is at the 3:15-3:25 mark when she says there was a call in which multiple members of congress discussed getting members of the crowd at the trump rally to march on the Capitol building.

40,, this is for you.. Since you can't seem to tell time or even remotely understand a timeline....here it is from Jan 6th

I know you aren't going to like this.. frankly you don't like anything that casts a shadow on Trump.... That's just too bad..

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/05/1069...nfolded-including-who-said-what-and-when

Another Proud Boy bites the dust.......

Proud Boys member pleads guilty to felony in Jan. 6 case

https://thehill.com/policy/national...ebILBbxRiOEZPQEmwXbVKjz2fXAA215Uu4YKDzC8

Five years max and up to 250K fine (bankrupting most likely) doesn't seem like much for trying to end American democracy, does it? They should create a registry like they do with sexual predators for these people. They should be watched the rest of their natural lives.

Jan. 6 panel announces eight hearings to be held in June

The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack at the Capitol will be holding eight hearings in June, according to lawmakers on the panel.

“Eight’s a lot of hearings,” committee member Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) told CBS’s Robert Costa on Thursday when asked about the specific number following an announcement from Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.).

“You know most issues or subjects get one hearing or maybe two hearings. So we looked at essentially the comprehensive story that we have to tell, and we divided it up into chapters that will allow for the unfolding of the narrative, and we hope that it will make sense to people,” Raskin added.

Thompson told reporters earlier on Thursday that eight public hearings will be slated for June, including ones scheduled for primetime and daytime.

“We’ll tell the story about what happened,” the House committee chairman said, according to CBS News. “We will use a combination of witnesses, exhibits, things that we have through the tens of thousands of exhibits we’ve […] looked at, as well as the hundreds of witnesses we deposed or just talked to in general.”

The first of the eight hearings is anticipated to be held on June 9, according to Thompson.

He also said that by the end of the week, three House Republicans — House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) in addition to Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Scott Perry (R-Pa.) — would be contacted by the committee, CNN reported.

Asked what would happen if any of the lawmakers refuse to testify, as all three of them have in the past, the panel chairman said, “Well, we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it,” according to CNBC.

In Raskin’s interview with Costa, the congressman indicated that the panel had not made up its mind over whether it wanted former Vice President Mike Pence to testify.

“I don’t know that that’s been decided yet. And you know, he’s spoken at length in public as to the major points, and so I think we have what we need from him, but I don’t think the committee’s decided yet,” Raskin explained.

https://thehill.com/policy/national...unces-eight-hearings-to-be-held-in-june/

Evidence mounts of GOP involvement in Trump election schemes
FILE - Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, takes part in a discussion at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) Feb. 26, 2022, in Orlando, Fla. Texting with then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, a close ally and friend, at nearly midnight on Jan. 5, 2021, Jordan offered a legal rationale for what President Donald Trump was publicly demanding — that Vice President Mike Pence, in his ceremonial role presiding over the electoral count, somehow assert the authority to reject electors from Biden-won states. (AP Photo/John Raoux, File)
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FARNOUSH AMIRI
Sun, May 1, 2022, 7:51 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) — Rioters who smashed their way into the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, succeeded — at least temporarily — in delaying the certification of Joe Biden’s election to the White House.

Hours before, Rep. Jim Jordan had been trying to achieve the same thing.

Texting with then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, a close ally and friend, at nearly midnight on Jan. 5, Jordan offered a legal rationale for what President Donald Trump was publicly demanding — that Vice President Mike Pence, in his ceremonial role presiding over the electoral count, somehow assert the authority to reject electors from Biden-won states.

Pence “should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all,” Jordan wrote.



"I have pushed for this," Meadows replied. “Not sure it is going to happen.”

The text exchange, in an April 22 court filing from the congressional panel investigating the Jan. 6 riot, is in a batch of startling evidence that shows the deep involvement of some House Republicans in Trump’s desperate attempt to stay in power. A review of the evidence finds new details about how, long before the attack on the Capitol unfolded, several GOP lawmakers were participating directly in Trump's campaign to reverse the results of a free and fair election.

It's a connection that members of the House Jan. 6 committee are making explicit as they prepare to launch public hearings in June. The Republicans plotting with Trump and the rioters who attacked the Capitol were aligned in their goals, if not the mob's violent tactics, creating a convergence that nearly upended the nation's peaceful transfer of power.

“It appears that a significant number of House members and a few senators had more than just a passing role in what went on," Rep. Bennie Thompson, the Democratic chairman of the Jan. 6 committee, told The Associated Press last week.

Since launching its investigation last summer, the Jan. 6 panel has been slowly gaining new details about what lawmakers said and did in the weeks before the insurrection. Members have asked three GOP lawmakers — Jordan of Ohio, Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy of California — to testify voluntarily. All have refused. Other lawmakers could be called in the coming days.

So far, the Jan. 6 committee has refrained from issuing subpoenas to lawmakers, fearing the repercussions of such an extraordinary step. But the lack of cooperation from lawmakers hasn't prevented the panel from obtaining new information about their actions.

The latest court document, submitted in response to a lawsuit from Meadows, contained excerpts from just a handful of the more than 930 interviews the Jan. 6 panel has conducted. It includes information on several high-level meetings nearly a dozen House Republicans attended where Trump's allies flirted with ways to give him another term.

Among the ideas: naming fake slates of electors in seven swing states, declaring martial law and seizing voting machines.

The efforts started in the weeks after The Associated Press declared Biden president-elect.

In early December 2020, several lawmakers attended a meeting in the White House counsel's office where attorneys for the president advised them that a plan to put up an alternate slate of electors declaring Trump the winner was not “legally sound.” One lawmaker, Rep. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, pushed back on that position. So did GOP Reps. Matt Gaetz of Florida and Louie Gohmert of Texas, according to testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, a former special assistant in the Trump White House.

Despite the warning from the counsel's office, Trump's allies moved forward. On Dec. 14, 2020, as rightly chosen Democratic electors in seven states — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — met at their seat of state government to cast their votes, the fake electors gathered as well.

They declared themselves the rightful electors and submitted false Electoral College certificates declaring Trump the true winner of the presidential election in their states.

Those certificates from the “alternate electors” were then sent to Congress, where they were ignored.

The majority of the lawmakers have since denied their involvement in these efforts.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia testified in a hearing in April that she does not recall conversations she had with the White House or the texts she sent to Meadows about Trump invoking martial law.

Gohmert told AP he also does not recall being involved and that he is not sure he could be helpful to the committee’s investigation. Rep. Jody Hice of Georgia played down his actions, saying it is routine for members of the president’s party to be going in and out of the White House to speak about a number of topics. Hice is now running for secretary of state in Georgia, a position responsible for the state's elections.

Rep. Andy Biggs of Arizona didn’t deny his public efforts to challenge the election results but called recent reports about his deep involvement untrue.

In a statement Saturday, Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona reiterated his “serious” concerns about the 2020 election. “Discussions about the Electoral Count Act were appropriate, necessary and warranted,” he added.

Requests for comment from the other lawmakers were not immediately returned.

Less than a week later after the early December meeting at the White House, another plan emerged. In a meeting with House Freedom Caucus members and Trump White House officials, the discussion turned to the decisive action they believed that Pence could take on Jan. 6.

Those in attendance virtually and in-person, according to committee testimony, were Hice, Biggs, Gosar, Reps. Perry, Gaetz, Jordan, Gohmert, Mo Brooks of Alabama, Debbie Lesko of Arizona, and Greene, then a congresswoman-elect.

"What was the conversation like?” the committee asked Hutchinson, who was a frequent presence in the meetings that took place in December 2020 and January 2021.

“They felt that he had the authority to, pardon me if my phrasing isn’t correct on this, but — send votes back to the States or the electors back to the states," Hutchinson said, referring to Pence.

When asked if any of the lawmakers disagreed with the idea that the vice president had such authority, Hutchinson said there was no objection from any of the Republican lawmakers.

In another meeting about Pence's potential role, Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis were joined again by Perry and Jordan as well as Greene and Lauren Boebert, a Republican who had also just been elected to the House from Colorado.

Communication between lawmakers and the White House didn't let up as Jan. 6 drew closer. The day after Christmas, Perry texted Meadows with a countdown.

“11 days to 1/6 and 25 days to inauguration," the text read. "We gotta get going!” Perry urged Meadows to call Jeffrey Clark, an assistant attorney general who championed Trump's efforts to challenge the election results. Perry has acknowledged introducing Clark to Trump.

Clark clashed with Justice Department superiors over his plan to send a letter to Georgia and other battleground states questioning the election results and urging their state legislatures to investigate. It all culminated in a dramatic White House meeting at which Trump considered elevating Clark to attorney general, only to back down after top Justice Department officials made clear they would resign.

Pressure from lawmakers and the White House on the Justice Department is among several areas of inquiry in the Jan. 6 investigation. Rep. Jamie Raskin, a Democratic member of the panel from Maryland, has hinted there are more revelations to come.

“As the mob smashed our windows, bloodied our police and stormed the Capitol, Trump and his accomplices plotted to destroy Biden’s majority in the electoral college and overthrow our constitutional order,” Raskin tweeted last week.

When the results of the panel's investigation come out, Raskin predicted, “America will see how the coup and insurrection converged.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/evidence-mounts-gop-involvement-trump-115111526.html

Meadows worst enemy is himself and his twitter account and soon, coming to a committee near you, his emails...

More evidence that blue lives only matter "sometimes".

Former NYPD officer convicted of assaulting police during Jan. 6 Capitol riot

"You f***ing piece of [censored]. You f***ing Commie motherf***ers, man." He then allegedly used the flagpole against the officer, swinging over the police line.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-o...D0Bu4UMgK-BxU2lkHPkkM6BNnyzso4E_4o86VHQU