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Watching Logan Allen and Sam Hentges throw batting practice today. Texas 8 Cleveland 0.

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Guardians Inactivity Is Mind Boggling
MW Cleveland Sports March 22, 2022 2 Minutes
When baseball locked out its players, fans were left to think about all the transactions that could be made to strengthen their favorite baseball team.

Now that spring training camps are open, and have been that way for a couple of weeks, supporters of the Cleveland Guardians are still feeling the same way.

Since the labor agreement was reached, the Guardians’ front office has added one player, catcher Luke Maile, another defensive oriented catcher with a lifetime OPS of 568.

It is evident to us that one of two things are in play here: Either Chris Antonetti and Mike Chernoff are completely satisfied by the current roster or ownership isn’t giving them any money to spend.

And if the latter is true, that still doesn’t preclude the brass from making trades.

In case you missed it, the Guardians didn’t win the World Series last season. In fact, they finished under .500 for the season at 80-82.

Their current offense features one hitter with a slugging percentage of over .450 and also an on base percentage of .350 (Jose Ramirez) and two hitters who above those figures in just one of the categories (Myles Straw in OBP and Franmil Reyes in slugging).

Cleveland ranked in the middle of the pack in the AL in slugging a year ago, but were third from the bottom in getting on base. We have written about this ad nauseum all off-season, and suggested several available candidates, such as Andrew McCutchen, Anthony Rizzo, and Tommy Pham.

Only Pham is still available, as is Michael Conforto, who has a career .356 OBP. To date, the Guardians have not been linked with any of them.

Yes, there is still time to make a move, but the season opens two weeks from Thursday.

The Guards’ roster make up is very strange. They have 13 players on the current 40 man roster without any big league experience. They have a glut of middle infielders, including four of their top ten prospects.

The assumption was the front office would deal from strength to bolster the team’s holes, which would be the outfield and the bullpen.

Now, if the Guardians are going to make a commitment to play their young outfielders, such as Steven Kwan (.380 OBP in the minors), Richie Palacios (.409), or even Oscar Gonzalez (871 OPS at AAA/AA last season), then we can get on board with that.

However, our fear is they will trot Bradley Zimmer and Oscar Mercado out there for the first six weeks of the season, and wonder why they got off to a poor start.

Terry Francona has also said they are planning to use Amed Rosario at both LF and SS. This is another head scratcher. Shortstop is the key defensive position on the diamond, and Rosario is not very good at the position.

And it’s not as though Cleveland doesn’t need a left fielder. Just put Rosario out there and open up short for Andres Gimenez and/or Gabriel Arias.

Oh, and is Josh Naylor is ready for the opener, move him to first base and leave him there.

This organization seems to be terrified of making a mistake, and we believe that is why we continue to see Zimmer, Mercado, and even Bobby Bradley get chance after chance.

There is enough of a history with each of those players that most people can figure out what they will bring to a team. Unfortunately, the people in charge obviously cannot.

For years, people around the sport have praised the Guardians’ front office. Is it time to start judging them more harshly.

https://clevelandsportsperspective.com/2022/03/22/guardians-inactivity-is-mind-boggling/


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1.3 mil for ZIMMER !

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Originally Posted by GratefulDawg

I HOPE that means they are working on a contract extension for Bieber. They also need to try to extend/reward Jose Ramirez.

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Of course they didn't work out a long term deal.

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Originally Posted by Milk Man
Of course they didn't work out a long term deal.

We control him through the 2024 season. I hope we can get something done by then and the Tribe usually extends their pitches early.

That said, I feel like Bieber has catapulted himself professionally quicker than most.


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that Jose Ramirez's people are in Goodyear right now discussing possible extension with the Guardians.

https://twitter.com/KenCarman/status/1506748064211558400

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Wow so pathetic.

There should be an organized fans protest against Dolan. He should be fined by the league, or forced to sell.

I love the Guardians but they are hard to follow because of their financial limits.

I live in Atlanta. I have been a Braves fan going back to when Hank Aaron was with Milwaukee. Then I moved to Atlanta in 1978.

So, I have been a Braves fan almost as long as I was a Indians fan.

So ready for Baseball. The worst time of year is after the Super Bowl. Not a big basketball fan. Playoffs some. After football I await baseball season.

The Braves have a really good team. Losing Freddie Freeman really hurt me personally as well as many other fans. But the Braves got Matt Olson.

No harm to the bottom line with their lineup and the new DH. Then they added Jansen to their pen which was already great. Can't wait to watch Ronold Acuna again. He is a great player.

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It amazes me how some people get so worked up over things like this while trying to minimize and accept things that are far more important than this. It speaks to the society we live in today.


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What I’m hearing from Goodyear: Playing kids, adding big bat unlikely – Terry’s Talkin’ Guardians

https://www.cleveland.com/guardians...ikely-terry-plutos-talkin-guardians.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Opening day for the Guardians is less than two weeks away. Here’s what I’m hearing from spring training:

1. Things like this are subject to change. A veteran looking for work could show up late in camp to help Cleveland’s outfield. But for now, I hear the plan is to go with young players – especially given how some of them have performed this spring.

2. Last week, I wrote about the possibility of Amed Rosario playing a lot of left field. He’s not done that much in spring training, but it’s still something the Guardians are considering. They are very excited about their young middle infielders.

3. There’s a good chance Yu Chang can be the opening day second baseman. He’s pounding the ball in spring training (.465, 2 HR). Chang seemed to find his confidence after the 2021 All-Star break, hitting .271 (.857 OPS) with 7 HR in 132 plate appearances. It feels as if he’s been around since Tris Speaker played in Cleveland, but he’s 26. His time is now.

4. Young shortstops Gabriel Arias (batting .583) and Andres Gimenez (batting .417) have been impressive. Arias skipped over Class AA last season, batting .284 (.802 OPS) with 29 doubles and 13 HR with 55 RBI in 115 games Class AAA Columbus. He turned 22 on Feb. 27. MLB.com rates Arias the No. 3 prospect in the Cleveland system – George Valera and Daniel Espino are the top two.

5. Gimenez was Cleveland’s opening day shortstop a year ago at the age of 22. He had a rough time at the plate, hitting only .218 (.633 OPS). But at Class AAA Columbus, Gimenez was a .287 hitter (.844 OPS) with 10 HR and 31 RBI in 51 games.

6. Gimenez came to Cleveland along with Rosario in the Francisco Lindor deal with the Mets. Arias was part of the massive 2021 trade with San Diego. Cleveland sent Mike Clevinger and Greg Allen to the Padres for Cal Quantrill, Austin Hedges, Josh Naylor, Owen Miller, Joey Cantillo and Arias. Clevinger is coming back from his second Tommy John elbow surgery. Quantrill is in the Guards’ starting rotation, Hedges is the starting catchers and the others are legitimate prospects. Miller is hitting .438 this spring.

7. The Guardians would love Bradley Zimmer to have a big spring. So far, he’s struck out 10 times in 16 at-bats, batting .133. He’s 29 and out of minor league options. I’ve heard one of two rookie outfielders will make the team – Richie Palacios or Steven Kwan. The Guardians believe both are close to being big league ready.

8. The Guardians could do something like Chang at second with either Gimenez or Arias at short. My guess is they’d open with Gimenez because he has some big league experience. They’d send Arias back to Class AAA. Ernie Clement (having a hot spring, batting .565) could be the utility infielder.

9. I keep hearing how the Guardians “want to give young players a chance.” They made huge trades with veterans to bring in prospects the last few years. They believe this is the time to see if they have a new wave of viable big leaguers coming. Josh Naylor is ahead of schedule recovering from his fractured leg last year. He may not open in Cleveland, but could be in the outfield soon. He is starting to play in some spring games.

10. So the outfield could have Myles Straw (CF), Rosario (LF) and Kwan or Palacios in RF. Naylor could be there soon. Oscar Mercado is having a better spring than Zimmer. I sense he is now rated ahead of Zimmer. Both are out of minor league options. The Guards’ top minor league prospect according to MLB.com is an outfielder – thank heavens! That’s George Valera, who batted .260 (.910 OPS) with 19 HR between Class A and AA last season at the age of 20. But he is not ready for Cleveland now.

11. Bobby Bradley also is out of minor league options. He is set to start at first base, but this could be a career-changing year for him. He either takes hold of the job, or he could end up out of the team’s plans by the end of 2022. He has tremendous power and the Guardians don’t want to give up on him too soon.

12. The Guardians are shopping for more veteran pitchers. They brought back Bryan Shaw (6-7, 3.49 ERA), who led the American League with 81 appearances for Cleveland last season. They want more veteran relievers to join the back end of the bullpen of Emmanuel Clase and James Karinchak. Eli Morgan, Trevor Stephan and Anthony Gose can help in relief.

13. Interesting comment from MLB.com’s Jim Callis, who writes extensively about the minors: “Daniel Espino has more upside than any Cleveland mound prospect since CC Sabathia and could force his way to the big leagues.”

14. I doubt the 21-year-old Espino will open the season in Cleveland. He split last year between two Class A teams – Lake County and Lynchburg – and was 3-8 with a 3.73 ERA. He needs more experience. Espino throws 100 mph with a sharp breaking ball. He struck out 152 in 91 innings last season. He is rated the No. 51 prospect in the minors by MLB.com.

15. I know Guardians fans want to talk more about payroll, not spending, etc. I’m headed to Goodyear on Tuesday for a week, and I’ll deal with that topic as I talk to the team’s executives in Arizona.

https://www.cleveland.com/guardians...ikely-terry-plutos-talkin-guardians.html


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I am so numb to the Indians. Until they get a new owner I feel they'll never have a shot.

I wish it weren't that way but I've seen nothing to convince me the owner cares about a winning product or the fans themselves.


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Pretty much where I am... when the first box on the flowchart is a dead end, "ain't no way to easy street".


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Honestly, I just don't get what they're trying to do or build.

If I were a manager of a team and didn't have much money or sway to get people here, I'd try to take things in small steps. Get better to a point where you're equal to or better than the competition (best teams in the league), specialize in something, and make your team the best at it. Maybe it'll be power hitting or home runs, maybe it'll be fielding. Keep working with that and add other pieces to the system and eventually, you have a good team that's fairly competent in all phases of the game.

That takes years and maybe I haven't been following them as closely as some people. I don't know what they're trying to do.

It's all about the mindset of ownership. You can see it when they want to win, it's easy to see because they'll do whatever they can and PAY whatever it takes. They're all in like the regular fan would be! They care because it's something they're responsible for and take pride in. A good example of this would be the Browns, Haslam, and their moves since Andrew Berry became GM.

The goal is to win the super bowl, the goal is to win a world series, not just win the division or get the AL pennant. You have to have a mindset and build your team in a mold that can accomplish that going into the process. You can't lose sight of that.

I honestly don't know if Dolan thinks like that.


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There is a problem when one team has a payroll of $40 and another team has a payroll of $240.

That should not be. It is a huge factor in attendance and overall popularity.

One of the main reasons for the popularity of the NFL is competitive balance. You can see that in the popularity of the NFL draft. The worst team sees a chance to improve quickly.

I love baseball. Love it. But I hate the financial structure.

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Originally Posted by tastybrownies
If I were a manager of a team and didn't have much money or sway to get people here, I'd try to take things in small steps. Get better to a point where you're equal to or better than the competition (best teams in the league), specialize in something, and make your team the best at it. Maybe it'll be power hitting or home runs, maybe it'll be fielding. Keep working with that and add other pieces to the system and eventually, you have a good team that's fairly competent in all phases of the game.

The Guardians do this with pitching. They have one of the best rotations in baseball for several years. In the 2021 MLB draft they selected 18 pitchers out of their 20 draft picks.

Their problem has been a complete inability to field a major league outfield. Zero power from the corner outfield positions.

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That's quite the hometown discount if Ramirez signs for that number. I know he said he wants to stay in Cleveland. Hope it works out.

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What?

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What?

That's Dolan's list of proposed spending before the trade deadline.


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Honestly, I just don't get what they're trying to do or build.

If I were a manager of a team and didn't have much money or sway to get people here, I'd try to take things in small steps. Get better to a point where you're equal to or better than the competition (best teams in the league), specialize in something, and make your team the best at it. Maybe it'll be power hitting or home runs, maybe it'll be fielding. Keep working with that and add other pieces to the system and eventually, you have a good team that's fairly competent in all phases of the game.

Specialize in getting players on base, loading the bases and getting players home. That's baseball and that's what I enjoy the most. Strategy is key ! Home runs are fun when there are players on base running in.

Single run home runs are blah to me, yes it's a run, I just really enjoy base stealing and running, those hits over the infield players heads and short of the outfielders gloves !

On the deck listening to Tom Hamilton on the radio, looking forward to it !

Waiting patiently for Blitzer to run Dolan out of town !

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