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Did I say it was America's oil?


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Originally Posted by keithfromxenia
I do believe that if I searched your writings, your speaking, even your musings, I would find not one single shred of concern for our Vice President, he was not a senator at the time to clear up your confusion, told the Ukrainian government that they either fire the prosecutor investigating burisma for corruption in six hours or he would take the $1,000,000,000 back on the plane and go home. And surprise surprise, the prosecutor got fired. Talk about a quid pro quo!! Naturally it was blunt talk and all on tape. He even bragged about it!!

Burista was not being investigated at the time this happened.

Our rating: False

Based on our research, the claim that Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine to save his son's job is FALSE. The then-vice president leveraged aid dollars to persuade the country to oust its top prosecutor as part of anti-corruption efforts endorsed by other international players that were unrelated to his son, Hunter Biden.

Prosecutor was not investigating Burisma at the time Joe Biden called for his removal

Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin to be removed, per the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency that has worked closely with the FBI.

In 2014, Shokin had investigated Burisma for money laundering and tax irregularities, per USA TODAY.

The probe focused on 2010-12, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau.

Hunter Biden — who joined the board in 2014 and served on it until early 2019 — was not the subject of the investigation.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

It wasn't Biden alone who wanted this prosecutor fired. It was many of our allies as well.

EU hails sacking of Ukraine’s prosecutor Viktor Shokin

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...ine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190

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If you have read the transcript of the trump call it was nothing nearly as clear as that. You really have to invent stuff. Now for those who cannot understand how someone can get overwrought about one issue and not mind a bit another similar issue, you have to understand the mind of the typical lefty. For them it is not the action, it is the politics behind it. So trump bad, Biden good. That explains it all.

“… A lot of the European countries are the same way so I think it’s something you want to look at but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn’t say that it’s reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine.”

Mmmmm hmmmm.......


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Originally Posted by FATE
Did I say it was America's oil?

The entire premise of this thread is about gas prices. It's been brought up many times it's due to America having energy independence. So if you weren't trying to address those points, what were you trying to address?


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Originally Posted by keithfromxenia
I do believe that if I searched your writings, your speaking, even your musings, I would find not one single shred of concern for our Vice President, he was not a senator at the time to clear up your confusion, told the Ukrainian government that they either fire the prosecutor investigating burisma for corruption in six hours or he would take the $1,000,000,000 back on the plane and go home. And surprise surprise, the prosecutor got fired. Talk about a quid pro quo!! Naturally it was blunt talk and all on tape. He even bragged about it!!

If you have read the transcript of the trump call it was nothing nearly as clear as that. You really have to invent stuff. Now for those who cannot understand how someone can get overwrought about one issue and not mind a bit another similar issue, you have to understand the mind of the typical lefty. For them it is not the action, it is the politics behind it. So trump bad, Biden good. That explains it all.

If you actually believe this you are being willfully ignorant. But you do you, because despite being masses of factual information about the Biden scenario - you choose not to seek it or read it. But you are 100% wrong.


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Originally Posted by mac
Like it or not, support it or not, THE USA IS AT WAR AGAINST PUTIN AND HIS THUGS...and you are either with the United States of America or your with PUTIN AND HIS POODLE.

...40, YOUR CHOICE, WHICH IS IT..?[/color]
No.
America, is in a toxic, domestic violence relationship with the democratic party, FORCED by the democratic party. And GASOLINE, is just a symptom of that relationship, like the Black eye from when the democrats beat you up!

Putin! is a Head of state, a foreign state, controlled by the KGB, PUTIN, is a member of the KGB and a representative of the KGB. (And the KGB has been at war against the USA since the 1960s or before, ongoing)

Trump! Stood up, with Amerian Power, AGAINST the KGB, and Putins' bullcrap. That is why Putin didn't do this stuff while Trump was in office.
But! This is what happens when you lose. Because, the Democrat Party, which LARGLY IS COMPROMISED, by foreign powers, and foreign interests, from all over the created world, INCLUDING THE KGB, is working, while located in the United States, as an occupying force, against the people and interests that would benefit the United States.
Things like, the United States' oil pipeline interests, which make the USA energy independent, and help all things, (NOT GASOLINE), things like rubber, plastic, creams, textiles, FOOD, SCIENCE, and research, ALL OF WHICH REQUIRE OIL, IN SPITE OF
THE LIE!!!!!! of HOWEVER MANY electric cars get shoved down your throat.-(making oil obsolete, THEY CAN'T make oil obsolete, it's just a Lie, on top of the other Lie, to help quell dissent over the fact that they are (r*****) you by destroying things that are in your best interest. (a lot of it in the name of anti-Christ earth worship called 'care for the environment'.
((this is what happens when you lose? because they took the election by falsfifying, and shoving millions of unverifiable ballots, so more votes than voters occurred in Michigan, for example, and making it, the election, lack integrity, in a day that will live in infamy, nov. 3. 2020 frown))

So you are either with the American people, and American interests, or you are with the KGB, and it's compromised/controlled entities located in the USA that are at war against the American People, and those include, (or may include) (as there is much evidence by the actions they take that they might include) The major fake news US establishment media, (like those that would have you only focus on Corona virus for 2.2 years and then switch to only focus on Ukraine since)
and the Democrat led institutions that weaponize government agencies against correct thinking americans who stand up at school board meeetings and say, Don't tell my 5 year old child they have to become a transsexual to be cool. -- and lablel those correct thinking americans as terrorists, when the opposite groups, that are destroying families, are the definition of terrorist.
And they also may include many members of congresses' actions' and statements', who act in conjunction with the interests of the KGB in destroying America by destroying the very definition of everything inside America.

And I think Russian AI may have infiltrated this board many years ago,
But!
If anyone can't see, who is working in the interests of the American People, and who is working to try and destroy the American People,
(the definition of war) then they are just lying to themselves, because they refuse to believe the truth.

The democrats, if you don't know them by now, you will never ever ever know them, soooo tragic.
We aren't at war against the democrats
Neither are we at war against Putin
There will be wars, and rumors of wars until the end of time.
We are at war against the anti-Christ!

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Did I say it was America's oil?

The entire premise of this thread is about gas prices. It's been brought up many times it's due to America having energy independence. So if you weren't trying to address those points, what were you trying to address?
I'd waste my time explaining it but YOU CAN'T READ. I talked about numerous things, one of them being the expansion of a pipeline that already exists.

You are basically unreadable at this point... in just about every thread you post in. Go back and read my actual post, I responded to Damon's clueless talking points. If you want to nitpick about the pipeline -- talk to your puppy.

Now go on and get your last word, Larry.


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Trump! Stood up, with Amerian Power, AGAINST the KGB, and Putins' bullcrap.


thro...I'm not gonna waste much time trying to help you...especially after reading the above comment along with the rest of the stuff you're attempting to peddle. Some things can't be fixed and some are so brainwashed from the sources they use to gather their information...such individuals are simply lost.




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I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

If you are going to use a quote, use the whole thing. wink


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

The whole world is now a degree dumber for allowing that text into the world.


Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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Originally Posted by FATE
[quote=PitDAWG]Now go on and get your last word, Larry.

Awe.... Butt hurt speaks loudly with no context involved. So much for any real debate. But of course when all else fails, wallow with the hogs.


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THROW calls the fact that Putin wanted Trump to be president and saying Putin was telling the truth and our entire intelligence community was lying "standing up to him". You just can't make this stuff up folks. Well I guess you can because he did.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
It was not American oil. The oil was Canada's. It was being processed for export. America would have gained no oil due to this pipeline.

BS. Pit you just say anything you can think up. Then come up with some BS link.

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Instead of spouting off like your estrogen levels are too high, show where it's American oil. You can't because it isn't. It's not my fault you believe everything you hear or want to believe.

Maybe you should engage your brain long enough to figure out the tar sand oil would be coming from Alberta Canada.

Nah, it's easier to just believe what you want and spout BS.

At the very least the pipeline would have exported about 70% of the oil it produced and would have only produced less than 1% of global oil. But you just keep doing you. Nobody else is going to do it for you.


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"like your estrogen levels are too high"

BRUTAL.


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Why hasn't Biden repealed federal drilling policies?

Why hasn't he started drilling on federal lands?

Can anyone answer these questions?

Why is he talking to Iran and other countries for oil instead?

Those kind of moves are asinine. It makes him look like a moron.


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Why isnt he talking to Canada?


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This is a good point. I'd much rather cooperate with them than a country that chants Death to America.


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https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=709&t=6

what country produces the most oil?

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So buy what you still need from Iran instead of drilling for more or talking to allies?


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Depends on where you want to drill?

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Originally Posted by tastybrownies
Why is he talking to Iran and other countries for oil instead?

Iran is a member of OPEC. Their oil is sold in bulk along with every other member of OPEC who we have purchased oil from since I was a child.

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Those kind of moves are asinine. It makes him look like a moron.

Suggesting we open federal lands to the oil corporations is what makes people sound like morons.


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j/c

Record-high gas prices won't be solved by drilling more oil in the US. Here's why

https://www.wcvb.com/article/why-re...by-drilling-more-oil-in-the-us/39393647#


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Does it though?

Let's dumb this down...

If you lead the world in production and consumption, and merely need to come up with another 10% to cover the shortfall, how hard do you really have to look for the oil?

If your answer is "Iran", you're playing a bad game of pin the tail on the donkey.


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Once again, Iran is a member of OPEC. They do not independently sell their oil.


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Record-high gas prices won't be solved by drilling more oil in the US. Here's why

https://www.wcvb.com/article/why-re...by-drilling-more-oil-in-the-us/39393647#

"If most consumers were driving electric vehicles, gas-price shocks wouldn't hit so hard." I realize their agenda was bleeding through.



If there is too much oil, prices go down. if there is not enough oil prices go up. If we add more crude, the prices will go down. If we supply our own oil, we would have much better control over pricing.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/20/what-caused-gas-price-spike/

The second biggest driver of high gas prices is rebounding demand as the U.S. economy recovers from the deadly pandemic. The increase of roughly 70 cents that occurred before Mr. Putin’s invasion is largely due to people venturing out again for travel, work and school, and the surge in truckers crisscrossing the nation to move goods.

The reality is, presidents have little influence on gas prices. Oil trades in a global market. Drilling in the United States is done by private companies, not the government. Americans also have other priorities right now, including doing what they can to tip the balance in Ukraine against the aggressors. Poll after poll shows the vast majority support cutting off Russian oil imports, even if it means prices go up.

So what can be done to lower gas prices? The biggest help would be more oil supply coming to the world market from Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Iran or Venezuela. There are already efforts to make this happen. U.S. oil production also appears to be rising, spurred by higher oil prices. And there are signs the global economy, especially China, is slowing, meaning less demand for oil.


Mr. Biden could release more oil from Strategic Petroleum Reserve, but it would have minimal impact.


Mr. Biden is also berating businesses for price gouging. But it has long been true that gas prices have a tendency to rise much faster than they fall, and presidential tweets are unlikely to change that.


Any solution should begin with some honesty from their leaders about what — and who — is to blame, as well as an acknowledgment of the fact that many of the forces currently driving costs upward are simply beyond anyone’s control.


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bottom line... we need more supply. We are consuming less fuel than we have 3-10 years ago back in the late 90's.
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You know, a smart person may not have demanded Saudi Arabia cut back oil production during the pandemic. Or should i say bribed them to do it?

Special Report: Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-military-support-sources-idUSKBN22C1V4
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j/c

Record-high gas prices won't be solved by drilling more oil in the US. Here's why

https://www.wcvb.com/article/why-re...by-drilling-more-oil-in-the-us/39393647#

"If most consumers were driving electric vehicles, gas-price shocks wouldn't hit so hard." I realize their agenda was bleeding through.



If there is too much oil, prices go down. if there is not enough oil prices go up. If we add more crude, the prices will go down. If we supply our own oil, we would have much better control over pricing.

What part of we can't drill our way out of this don't you get? And can you tell me what is false about if more Americans drove EV's the demand for gas would decrease? Instead people drive around in their 4WD's and whine about gas prices.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
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Why is he talking to Iran and other countries for oil instead?

Iran is a member of OPEC. Their oil is sold in bulk along with every other member of OPEC who we have purchased oil from since I was a child.

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Those kind of moves are asinine. It makes him look like a moron.

Suggesting we open federal lands to the oil corporations is what makes people sound like morons.

So then what's your solution? Don't come to me with only problems I expect a counter solution if you actually want to talk. And NO, borrowing from OPEC and Iran is NOT a solution. I'm not doing any business with any country that chants Death to America hrough an intermediate source. They can go to hell.

We need to drill on federal lands NOW! not tomorrow, NOW! You don't get it! There is absolutely ZERO reason not to. Name one. Name it. I want long term oil independence, I don't want to deal with OPEC at all, I'd actually sue them instead.

You also seem defensive when people take Biden to task. You're coddling him. Take the gloves off.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
You know, a smart person may not have demanded Saudi Arabia cut back oil production during the pandemic. Or should i say bribed them to do it?

Special Report: Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-military-support-sources-idUSKBN22C1V4[quote=superbowldogg][quote=PitDAWG]j/c


Maybe you should read your own articles;)

The effort illustrated Trump’s strong desire to protect the U.S. oil industry from a historic price meltdown as governments shut down economies worldwide to fight the virus. It also reflected a telling reversal of Trump’s longstanding criticism of the oil cartel, which he has blasted for raising energy costs for Americans with supply cuts that usually lead to higher gasoline prices. Now, Trump was asking OPEC to slash output.


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Originally Posted by tastybrownies
Why hasn't Biden repealed federal drilling policies?

Why hasn't he started drilling on federal lands?

Can anyone answer these questions?


Why is he talking to Iran and other countries for oil instead?

Those kind of moves are asinine. It makes him look like a moron.

If when you see Biden you accept him as probably a foreign agent without the best interests of the United States in mind, then you don't have to ask these questions, you just have to deal with the grim reality of it.
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Of course he wouldn't like the United States' success, his whole party is against the United States' success, if he cared about the United States why would he be in that party.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
You know, a smart person may not have demanded Saudi Arabia cut back oil production during the pandemic. Or should i say bribed them to do it?

Special Report: Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support - sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-military-support-sources-idUSKBN22C1V4
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j/c

Record-high gas prices won't be solved by drilling more oil in the US. Here's why

https://www.wcvb.com/article/why-re...by-drilling-more-oil-in-the-us/39393647#

"If most consumers were driving electric vehicles, gas-price shocks wouldn't hit so hard." I realize their agenda was bleeding through.



If there is too much oil, prices go down. if there is not enough oil prices go up. If we add more crude, the prices will go down. If we supply our own oil, we would have much better control over pricing.

What part of we can't drill our way out of this don't you get? And can you tell me what is false about if more Americans drove EV's the demand for gas would decrease? Instead people drive around in their 4WD's and whine about gas prices.


Amply supply means crude barrel prices which will slow/curb inflation.

What don't you understand?


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So you're saying what Trump was "trying to accomplish" makes up for the massive mistake that turned out to be. So he tried to protect businesses in order to keep the cost higher to consumers. And you consider that a good thing how again?


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You didn't offer a solution. What you're proposing isn't a solution. It's turning over federal land to big corporations and still won't solve the problem. Lining corporate profits always sounds like a solution to some people.


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So you're saying what Trump was "trying to accomplish" makes up for the massive mistake that turned out to be. So he tried to protect businesses in order to keep the cost higher to consumers. And you consider that a good thing how again?

One of the things I’ve noticed is that they give trump a lot of credit for mentioning things, but can’t list the things he actually done. We gotta whole lot of “we’re looking into it”, talks about infrastructure week, and “we’re gonna fight for..” but other than tax cuts for the wealthy….struggle to actually see the policies that have positively affected the country.

Didn’t repeal the ACA, got a fence instead of a border wall and didn’t fix those problems, no infrastructure, didn’t make any gains with China, no big trade deals, and didn’t even bother getting that special counsel to investigate Hillary Clinton.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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Actually he did get the DOJ to investigate her yet again. But as the several investigations into it previously, they found nothing.....

The Justice Department investigation into Trump's claims of Hillary Clinton's corruption is reportedly over, and found nothing

https://www.insider.com/doj-probe-trump-alleged-clinton-corruption-found-nothing-2020-1


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It's always been his MO: promise the moon. Period. Deliver substandard returns or nothing at all.

Trump "U"
Vodka
Steaks
Wall
Casinos that go bankrupt

Smoke + mirrors for his entire 'career.' I'm shocked at the number of people who still can't see through the facade. Manhattanites have viewed him as a clown and joke for decades. He's the 'Antimidas'... most everything he touches turns to spoilage. And always followed up by more promises. 2nd-rate flim-flam man.

With him, the check is always 'in the mail. '


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Swish, your answer, all truths will be marked fake news.....Trumpites always say ANYTHING mentioned by anyone else other than their approved news sites is just propaganda from the left- Trump the great, according to him, Mexico paid for wall- actually Trump stole money for DOD to pay for part of it, China deal- Chinese's never bought goods from US they were suppose to- GREAT BARGAIN. Recent, Trump doesn't know what a burner phone is.....Nixon quit due to 18 minutes of missing tape.....Trump has over 7 hrs of missing data while he was trying to prevent a peaceful transfer of power....UGH, lastly, he's still claiming to his idiot followers- he won. He won, he's just not President now- stolen election....what planet is he from AND who in their right mind could vote for him.


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Patience is a virtue.

It took Patience to wait for the truth to come out on the Democrat, FBI, Intel Agencies Lies about Trump's Collusion with Russia.
It took Patience to wait for the truth to come out about the Democrat, FBI, Intel Agencies and Media Lies about the Steele Dossier.
It took Patience to wait for the truth to come out about the Democrat, FBI, Intel Agencies and Media Lies and coverup of Hunter's Laptop.

We are Patient people. We will wait to prove you wrong again.

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You are such a troll. Trump is GONE. He's not coming back. And you were never right.


Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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