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Are you saying that there were not posters who said/say we had the worst WRs in the league, blamed the OL for sacks, criticized our coaches when defending Baker? Fairly certain I didn't say that. If I did, could you link to it? But, I'll play your game (and a game that too many on here play) Are you saying you support fish not being hooked? See how easy that is, to "question" what someone says, but never said? So, you're saying you like turds? (question mark there)
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A few things. I clearly stated that I saw him as a guy who may be able to be our #3 WR. Teams run 3 and 4 WR sets at times and we'll probably run more of that now that we have a qb.
Secondly, DPJ is never going to be a quick twitch guy. It's part of the reason he lasted until the second round. However, he does well on contested catches, has good speed and strength. Cuts well coming out of the break on longer routes, and can be a guy who contributes.
Finally, this is not about hopes and dreams. Good God! It's about what I have seen w/my own eyes and the strengths and weaknesses of a particular player. Some people have to bring their crap to every freaking thread that is aimed at talking about football, whether it be fabricated comments on hopes and dreams or making juvenile comments about Watson on a thread about Woods' defensive scheme. I know you know this and just mistyped. DPJ was a day 3 pick in the 6th round. Just posting to clarify for the board.
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Thank you for posting drop numbers.
This was supposed to be a response for Vers.
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Are you saying that there were not posters who said/say we had the worst WRs in the league, blamed the OL for sacks, criticized our coaches when defending Baker? Fairly certain I didn't say that. If I did, could you link to it? But, I'll play your game (and a game that too many on here play) Are you saying you support fish not being hooked? See how easy that is, to "question" what someone says, but never said? So, you're saying you like turds? (question mark there) arch, look at what I said again. I didn't say you. I said "posters." I can definitely PM you links of others saying those things. I really don't want to put them here. It's a DPJ thread, or at least it was.
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A few things. I clearly stated that I saw him as a guy who may be able to be our #3 WR. Teams run 3 and 4 WR sets at times and we'll probably run more of that now that we have a qb.
Secondly, DPJ is never going to be a quick twitch guy. It's part of the reason he lasted until the second round. However, he does well on contested catches, has good speed and strength. Cuts well coming out of the break on longer routes, and can be a guy who contributes.
Finally, this is not about hopes and dreams. Good God! It's about what I have seen w/my own eyes and the strengths and weaknesses of a particular player. Some people have to bring their crap to every freaking thread that is aimed at talking about football, whether it be fabricated comments on hopes and dreams or making juvenile comments about Watson on a thread about Woods' defensive scheme. I know you know this and just mistyped. DPJ was a day 3 pick in the 6th round. Just posting to clarify for the board. LOL.........sorry about that and thanks for the correction. I can't believe I typed that.
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I like him also, but maybe it's just something I think rather than actual, but it seems that he dropped a lot of balls last season! I tried to look it up but was unable. I recall one bad game of drops, but not much more. He had 4 drops last year according to PFF. That doesn't sound like a big deal,,,, ,Must be my imagination
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Four drops might be a little high because he probably wasn't targeted a lot. While watching, I never thought to myself that he had a hands issue, but again, 4 drops might be a little high for how many times he was targeted.
Edit: He was targeted 58 times and had 34 receptions. His receiving grade was 67, which is in the green zone. Blue is elite, dark green, then light green, then yellow, orange, red. His overall grade was 65.7. That's in the green zone, as well. I'm guessing his blocking knocked his grade down a bit. You would think w/his build that he would be a good blocker.
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I think it was worthy to start a thread about DPJ because IMO he struggled most when he became the #1 WR by default. He’s gonna do much better as that WR opposite Cooper (and hopefully one other guy).
He’s already performed above his draft slot and has given us some good stuff in 2 years.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I remember listening to Cleveland Browns daily and Beau Bishop and Nathon Zegura from last season mid/ early December, some time after the Bengals game, (maybe weeks after), and one of them made the comment, " We can't rely on DPJ's 4 catches a month, " ... for a passing offense.
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We'll see if DPJ can improve his play, his MO at TTUN was that he didn't spend a whole lot of time trying to improve his game and that's why he was in Harbaugh's doghouse quite a bit.
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It's part of the reason he lasted until the second round. He lasted until the 6thh round, not the second round. Pick #187 Go on with more of your personal attacks now.
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He’s gonna do much better as that WR opposite Cooper (and hopefully one other guy). If he ends up being the WR on the opposite side of Cooper DW is in trouble. People seem to forget the WR's DW had in Houston in 2020. Brandon Cooks Will fuller Randall Cobb Kenny Stills
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We'll see if DPJ can improve his play, his MO at TTUN was that he didn't spend a whole lot of time trying to improve his game and that's why he was in Harbaugh's doghouse quite a bit. That's disturbing news.
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DPJ Reminds me of Derrick Alexander our 29th overall pick in the 1st round in 1994 ...
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There’s a name from the past! Loved Alexander
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I see DPJ as one of those guys that is a #2 that looks like they could be a #1, but never should be. Not that he's at the same level as Juju, but I can see him getting there. That said, he's a steal.
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We'll see if DPJ can improve his play, his MO at TTUN was that he didn't spend a whole lot of time trying to improve his game and that's why he was in Harbaugh's doghouse quite a bit. That's disturbing news. Unsurprising really, guy was a freak athlete at the combine and did jack squat at SCUM. This is year 3 and he was a 6th rounder so it's this year or next if ever wants another contract so if money at all entices him, I expect he will be putting in the work.
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His QB play around him at ichigan was trash. DPJs biggest mistake was excepting their scholarship. If he’d played at a number of other colleges that would have scholarshipped him, he’d have put up numbers. Instead he went to Harbaugh’s dysfunctional mess. Name a decent QB Harbaugh has coached at ichigan. Name DPJs ichigan QB.
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I'm not sure the FO is sold on him either, he was pretty inconsistent. But I know they believe Watson will elevate the WR play. Just by not having to make shoe-string catches and jump 80 ft in the air for them. But theres alot of heat around us trading for Samuels or Shenault as well as taking one in the draft.. I'm actually excited this year for the draft. These are the drafts that good GM's show themselves. Talent pool is muddy and we are short on draft capital, but man I love how aggressive this FO is. They will turn over any position if they think it makes them better, but even more is the way they reward guys.
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Agreed. We now have a GM that knows what he is doing. I believe we'll get 3 or 4 good players from this draft that will contribute right away. It's a deep draft.
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