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Same to you Vers, glad you're happy. You know, no one has ever questioned Watson's football ability.

Ted Kaczynski, the UNABOMBER, did have a high I.Q., by some estimates into the 160’s. He was a Harvard graduate, mathematics prodigy, and math professor. His I.Q. tested at 167 in junior high school (well into the genius level). Even his classmates in high school considered him a “walking brain.” He skipped the 6th and 11th grade and graduated high school at 15. He entered Harvard on a scholarship at age 16. He had both a master’s and PhD from the University of Michigan. In 1967, at the age of 25, he became the youngest assistant professor at U.C., Berkeley. He was definitely a brilliant guy, but just a little deranged with baggage that offset his known intelligence.

Watson is a fine football player. That does not give him a pass on his off the field activities. While your concern is purely focused on a single aspect of Watson's life (football), others of us look at the total package and demand answers where money can't buy silence before anointing him the face of our beloved franchise or being an idol for our kids with such disturbing baggage in his closet. You're ok with that obviously - most are not.

I wouldn't dream of telling you how to look at Watson. It's a personal decision. And my decision is my own.

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Obvious admission that winning means more than morality.

We can assume that the reason it takes so long time for judge Robinson to deliver a verdict is because NFL and NFLPA can’t agree on accepting her decision.

I continue to believe that a suspension shorter then one year will be very hard for the commissioner to accept. Imagine accepting 12 games suspension and a couple of weeks later another women comes with new allegations. The NFL just can’t end up in such position just before the season starts.

The comparison is just as Watson has excellent football skills as the Unabomber was a genius at math doesn't tell the whole story or give him a pass on what he's done outside his skillset. It can be argued that the Unabomber was one of the greatest math minds that ever lived but that doesn't mean I should ignore the fact he sent mail bombs because I need a math genius.

Nobody is more in tune with Robinson reviewing all the information and enforcing the agreed upon new practice via the contract that states she would be the new way of deciding things. However, it's hypocritical to now say she needs to even the score by giving Watson a light suspension to make up for what the NFLPA determined as unfair practices previously. What's the purpose of the NFLPA agreeing to change the procedure only to threaten lawsuits over past practices if you don't even the score during her first case?

I haven't mistaken that I am her - have you? I do not have to assume "most are not." An online survey launched by a nonprofit called Stop Street Harassment offers some striking evidence regarding sexual harassment and/or misconduct. It found that 81 percent of women had experienced some form of sexual harassment during their lifetime. The results show that 77 percent of women had experienced verbal sexual harassment, and 51 percent had been sexually touched without their permission. About 41 percent said they had been sexually harassed online. Add whatever percentage that you may want of male support, and I can safely say "most are not" ok with what Watson is accused of.

I am in total agreement with your statement that each gets to make their own decision on how to look at this. What I am not ok with is the constant character assassination of the women, the name calling and anti-loyalty claims against individuals because they don't support Watson's off the field antics or being called a troll because the group won't kiss Watson's azz because he can throw a football. You are right that individuals should be entitled to their own views unless of course your stand is anti-Watson due to his off the field activities - then you're not entitled.

This is not true. I think people have been very kind towards the women on this board. It sounds a lot different in the Comments sections after most videos and articles. I also think the name calling and insults are coming from your side. Just look at our earlier exchange. You comparing me to a monkey and me saying good morning. The troll comment I will stand by, but there is a caveat. I have repeatedly stated that I don't blame people if they don't want to root for the Browns because of Watson or frankly, any reason at all. However, if one says he is no longer rooting for the team and then comes on to this board every single day and trashes the team and posters who support the team, what the hell is he if not a troll? Guys like Clem and cfrs are uncomfortable w/Watson being on the team. No one questions them about it. Then again, they don't hurl insults at those of us who are okay w/the Browns on a daily basis.

I'll be clear. I have NO PROBLEM w/you if you don't like the signing of Watson and don't want to root for the team. NONE!!!!! Just don't insult me every time you speak to me because I feel differently. Frankly, I'd be fine if you and I never spoke again.

First off, I'm a Browns fan. Got it?

Second, I do not and did not endorse the trade for DW.

I'm a Browns fan, not a fan of any particular player. A Browns fan. It is possible to not like the signing, while still being a fan of the team.

I feel I need to explain that to you because you have previously labeled me as a Baker fan.

Now, if they guy that said he can't be a Browns fan any longer, but just stays here to start crap, could just leave, that would be neat.

Again, I have no problem w/guys like you who don't like the signing. It's a choice.

There is one person who admitted he was going to troll us. You even replied to the guy and called him out. Two others did, as well. The refs deleted the posts shortly afterwards. I think you know who the other guy is that says he isn't rooting for the team and posts on here daily while belittling other posters on almost every single post he makes. Then, there is Baker Dawg. He's been a Baker fan all along and is trolling us bad.

Big difference from being a troll and just not liking the signing. Again, I have ZERO problems w/anyone who doesn't like the signing and/or doesn't want to root for. the team anymore because of it. It's free choice. I just think trolling is bogus.

You don't get to call others trolls. YOU ARE PROJECTING. But I don't really care what you have to say, so whatever.

I nominate you WINNER of SILLY SEASON.

I didn't realize some posts got deleted. And yes, everyone knows who the now 'non browns' fan is, and his statement that he'd stick around just to be a ......not sure how to say it.......bug.

But, larry gotta be larry.

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It will be good to know.......one way or the other.

I love how some people get some emotionally jacked up over this DeShawn Watson case
Does it really matter in the big scheme of things what happened between
Watson and the massage therapists?
He is a QB of a football team that has a legion of fans and supporters.
Its merely a game. A sport. It's not life and death.
Football is a escape from the stresses and trials of real life.
Yet we got bozos on here acting like their daughters have this super emotional
Dilemma in regards to supporting the Browns cause the starting QB
Was testing sexual boundries. Whoopie doo.
Sport franchises are not vehicles for moral highways

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My initial reaction is that they would only come out and say this if they knew the outcome and are happy with it. But I suppose it could mean they just want to move on as well. And if the sides already know this statement seems to indicate there is a suspension of some sort or else, if there wasn't, the NFLPA wouldn't be calling for the NFL to not appeal a decision because, well, they couldn't appeal.

That's neat and all, but just watch if it doesn't go the way the nflpa thinks it will....

I guess that's my point. The way this statement reads, to me at least, is that they do know.

I wonder how long he will be suspended.

I'm guessing 4-6 games

JMHO, I think the judge is going to SHOCK the world. No punishment, because the owners are held to a HIGHER standard and they've received little or NO punishment.....GO Browns!!!

Espn headline says report coming out Monday. Hopefully all will accept it

I'll bet you, and anyone that thinks like you, that she specifically says her decision and judgment on this case has nothing to do with previous cases concerning owners.

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They would have to know to make that statement, right? Besides, she's been trying to get them to settle, so she would have to had supplied some framework.

Maybe it's the standard 4 games? As I've said many times, it would be really hard to push for more than 6 games (language in the contract) because DW is not a violent or repeat offender.

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NFL wants 12 games? LOL...what a clown show.

I'm still holding onto my prediction that nobody will appeal/challenge her decision.
I'm betting that they've all already colluded and come to an agreement, but rather than letting it be know that there's a settlement, they're letting their new process have its first run and all sides, already knowing what it will be, will just nod sagely and accept her "decision".

It's pretty obvious this is what's happening. NFLPA issued their statement just to make sure there is no last minute "funny business" by the NFL.

Not being able to place a bet on the O/U on the length of the suspension is just poor form by Vegas!

Given that she is new to the process and was selected to start a new process it would not make sense for her to be tied by earlier punishments prior to be honest.

Milk, I'm not seeing anything.

Glad it will finally end (hopefully). I’ll stick to the 6 game suspension prediction (I could see 4 or 8). Let’s hope for no appeal by the NFL

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