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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/feature/a-plot-to-overturn-an-american-election

THE MEADOWS TEXTS
A Plot To Overturn An American Election
TPM Has Obtained Explosive Evidence Uncovered By The January 6 Select Committee
By Hunter Walker | December 12, 2022 3:31 p.m.
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The messages you are about to read are the definitive, real-time record of a plot to overturn an American election.

TPM has obtained the 2,319 text messages that Mark Meadows, who was President Trump’s last White House chief of staff, turned over to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack. Today, we are publishing The Meadows Texts, a series based on an in-depth analysis of these extraordinary — and disturbing — communications.

The vast majority of Meadows’ texts described in this series are being made public for the very first time. They show the senior-most official in the Trump White House communicating with members of Congress, state-level politicians, and far-right activists as they work feverishly to overturn Trump’s loss in the 2020 election. The Meadows texts illustrate in moment-to-moment detail an authoritarian effort to undermine the will of the people and upend the American democratic system as we know it.

The text messages, obtained from multiple sources, offer new insights into how the assault on the election was rooted in deranged internet paranoia and undemocratic ideology. They show Meadows and other high-level Trump allies reveling in wild conspiracy theories, violent rhetoric, and crackpot legal strategies for refusing to certify Joe Biden’s victory. They expose the previously unknown roles of some members of Congress, local politicians, activists and others in the plot to overturn the election. Now, for the first time, many of those figures will be named and their roles will be described — in their own words.

Meadows turned over the text messages during a brief period of cooperation with the committee before he filed a December 2021 lawsuit arguing that its subpoenas seeking testimony and his phone records were “overly broad” and violations of executive privilege. Since then, Meadows has faced losses in his efforts to challenge the subpoena in court. However, that legal battle is ongoing and is unlikely to conclude before next month, when the incoming Republican House majority is widely expected to shutter the committee’s investigation. Earlier this year, Meadows reportedly turned over the same material he gave the select committee to the Justice Department in response to another subpoena. These messages are key evidence in the two major investigations into the Jan. 6 attack. With this series, the American people will be able to evaluate the most important texts for themselves.

Meadows has not, thus far, responded to multiple requests for comment. The texts Meadows provided to the select committee encompass the period from election night in 2020 through President Joe Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20, 2021. It is not clear which, if any, texts Meadows withheld from the committee, but the text message log offers multiple hints it is only a partial record of his conversations. There are discussions that clearly lack prior context and messages where participants indicate there is further communication taking place on encrypted channels.

But despite the seeming gaps, Meadows’ text record is still incredibly revealing. Some of the contents of the log were published in “The Breach,” a book about the Jan. 6 attack that I co-wrote with Denver Riggleman, a former Republican congressman and senior technical adviser to the committee. In our book, Riggleman described how he and his fellow committee investigators dubbed Meadows’ text log “the crown jewels” because they served as the “road map to an insurrection.” Along with the text messages that appeared in “The Breach,” some of Meadows’ messages have also been revealed by media outlets. The Washington Post published his exchanges with Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Some of Meadows’ conversations with Fox News personalities and other members of the media were disclosed by the select committee. CNN and I have published Meadows’ conversations with some Republican members of Congress including; Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT), Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX), Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-NY), Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA), and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA). Additionally, CNN has published Meadows’ texts with Fox News personality Sean Hannity and his messages from the period directly surrounding the Jan. 6 attack. However, there’s more. So much more.

TPM is kicking off this series with an exclusive story showing that the log includes more than 450 messages with 34 Republican members of Congress. Those texts show varying degrees of involvement by members of Congress, from largely benign expressions of support for Trump to the leading roles played by Reps. Jim Jordan (R-OH), Jody Hice (R-GA), Mo Brooks (R-AL), and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) in the plot to reverse Trump’s defeat. We reached out to all these legislators, and will be detailing their roles and responses to our questions in the first installment of the series, which is coming later today.

Committee investigators received the text messages from Meadows’ legal team without names associated with the individual texts, only phone numbers. They tied phone numbers to individuals based on law enforcement databases of public records and their own intelligence work. For these stories, we are relying on the identifications of those texting with Meadows that were made by the committee’s investigators. We have indicated where we were able to independently confirm their work through our own public records searches and reporting. The text message contents received by the committee contained tokens that replaced emojis and certain punctuation. They also include many typos and grammatical errors. Other than replacing tokens where they seemed to clearly be standing in for apostrophes, we have strived to present these texts in their original format as received by the committee. TPM has conducted an in-depth review of Meadows’ entire text log with a team of reporters and editors working over five weeks.

Much of the undemocratic attempt to reverse Trump’s defeat played out in the public eye. Lawyers allied with Trump and his campaign launched a failed legal blitz that sought to challenge the election results based on questionable evidence. Republican politicians and activists staged months of rallies around the country to protest the vote. It all culminated on Jan. 6, 2021, when Trump appeared at a rally on the Ellipse and urged his die-hard supporters to “fight like hell” as his loss was being certified at the U.S. Capitol. Thousands of Trump supporters, including many who marched directly to the Capitol from Trump’s speech, stormed into the building, smashed windows, and fought brutally with law enforcement, leading to multiple deaths and a brief interruption in the electoral certification. That evening, surrounded by National Guard troops and broken glass, 147 Republicans voted to overturn the results

Meadows’ text log shows what the scheme to subvert the 2020 election looked like behind the scenes. It reveals the roots of the violence and its key enablers in Washington. The messages show the plot began well before Jan. 6 and continued afterward. They are essential documentation of a dark day in American history.

Nobody on the right is going to believe anything written by a guy named Hunter.

Let's face it, they just don't care.

I don't think that's true at all!

They misspelled Donald Trump Jr at the bottom of your meme.

How do you know it's a "they"? That's offensive.

Well of course it is.

‘Marshall Law!’: Dozens of GOP Politicians Texted Meadows About Overturning 2020

“When we lose Trump we lose our Republic,” one current congressman texted Trump's chief of staff.

Former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows texted with at least 34 members of Congress about both legal and extralegal means that could be used by former President Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 election, according to a new report from Talking Points Memo. 

South Carolina Congressman Ralph Norman, for example, called for “invoking Marshall [sic] Law!” in a Jan. 17 text to Meadows, three days before President Joe Biden’s inauguration. Texas Rep. Brian Babin, meanwhile, told Meadows on Nov. 6 that “when we lose Trump we lose our Republic.” 

“We’re with you down here in Texas and refuse to live under a corrupt Marxist dictatorship,” Babin wrote. “Fight like hell and we’ll find a way.”

Meadows received at least 364 text messages from GOP members of Congress about overturning the results and sent nearly 100 of his own, Talking Points Memo reported. Meadows’ texts were obtained by the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and the events leading up to it. 

The text messages provide further evidence that the Trump administration’s effort to steal the 2020 election was backed by many rank and file House Republicans, most of whom are still in Congress. Come January, these Republican politicians will find themselves in the House majority. 

The messages with Meadows are replete with the far-right conspiracy theories that began popping up immediately following the election. Norman, for example, cited disproven claims about Dominion Voting Systems’ voting machines in his Jan. 17 message to Meadows.

“Mark, in seeing what’s happening so quickly, and reading about the Dominion law suits attempting to stop any meaningful investigation we are at a point of no return in saving our Republic !!” Norman wrote. 

In a statement to VICE News Tuesday, Norman said that “Martial Law was never warranted.” 

“That text message came from a source of frustration, on the heels of countless unanswered questions about the integrity of the 2020 election, without any way to slow down and examine those issues prior to the inauguration of the newly elected president,” Norman added.

By the time Norman had sent those messages, though, there were no legal means remaining to challenge the results—Biden had already been certified as the winner for more than a week. Trump himself conceded on Jan. 7 that Biden would take office and that his focus at that point was “ensuring a smooth, orderly and seamless transition of power.” 

Meadows apparently received text messages from members of Congress just repeating claims they heard as a pretext for the federal government to call for an audit. “I know of at least 2 people who told me they mailed in their ballots and voted in person so you can tell them they might be interested in going over all votes in Nevada,” Missouri Rep. Billy Long reportedly wrote.

“Ok,” Meadows responded, according to TPM. (Long’s office did not respond to a request for comment, according to TPM.)

The Jan. 6 committee—which is made up of primarily Democrats as well as two Republican critics of Trump’s efforts to block Biden from taking office—is expected to approve a report of its findings at a public meeting on Dec. 21, prior to Republicans taking control of the House in January. The committee is considering criminal referrals for Trump, Meadows, and lawyers John Eastman, Rudy Giuliani, and Jeffrey Clark, CNN reported last week. 

The overwhelming majority of Republicans who reportedly tried to overturn the election, however, will likely never face any sort of repercussions for their efforts. 

North Carolina Rep. Ted Budd, for example, voted to deny certification of Pennsylvania and Arizona’s electoral votes. Budd reportedly texted Meadows on Nov. 7 alleging ties between Dominion and liberal billionaire George Soros, the target of a plethora of right-wing conspiracy theories. “Praying for your health!” Budd told Meadows. “FYI Dominion Voting Systems is owned by State Street Capital, which are Carlyle (Rubenstein alums), Rubenstein is a longtime co-investor with Soros Capital.”

Budd won’t be in the House next year—but only because the Trump-backed congressman won election to the Senate last month.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy7..._CcnOEfGKTanfFsYlhtm72qAae10nosTWRaUEwdQ

It's odd how people will ignore important topics like this while focusing on stolen luggage and what happened to some panties. It says a lot about what they actually value and their priorities.

“It was a peaceful demonstration and the documents found at trump palace were planted and should be returned immediately”

It's easy to hate gender pronouns when all you have is nouns like idiot, zealot, and fascist to work with.

Trial starts: Alaska lawmaker with Oath Keepers ties

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — An Alaska lawmaker may be unfit to hold office because he’s a member of the Oath Keepers, a far-right extremist group that has either advocated for or engaged in concrete action to overthrow the U.S. government, a lawyer said Tuesday in opening arguments for a case against state Rep. David Eastman.

“We are going to present overwhelming evidence on both those elements,” said Goriune Dudukgian, a lawyer with an Anchorage civil rights law firm. Dudukgian represents Randall Kowalke, a Wasilla resident whose lawsuit seeks to disqualify Eastman from holding office.

The bench trial before Superior Court Judge Jack McKenna will determine whether Eastman, a Wasilla Republican, will be allowed to be seated in the Legislature next month after winning reelection last month. McKenna earlier ordered the state Division of Elections not to certify the results of the race pending an outcome in this case.

Kowalke’s lawsuit points to a provision in the Alaska Constitution stating that no one who “advocates, or who aids or belongs to any party or organization or association which advocates, the overthrow by force or violence of the government of the United States or of the State shall be qualified to hold” public office.

Stewart Rhodes, a founder of the Oath Keepers, and Florida chapter leader Kelly Meggs were convicted last month of seditious conspiracy related to the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol for what prosecutors called a violent plot to overturn President Joe Biden’s victory. They were among 33 Oath Keepers charged after the insurrection, Dudukgian said.

Eastman, represented by attorney Joe Miller, has admitted to being in Washington, D.C., that day, but only to witness an address from then-President Donald Trump that preceded the attack on the Capitol.

Eastman said he did not take part in the riot, and that he has not been accused of any crime.

Miller did not give opening arguments Tuesday, and chose to deliver those before he presents the defense’s case.

Eastman is a member of the Oath Keepers and has contributed more than $1,000 in support of the group, Dudukgian said.

“And even after the events of the Jan. 6 insurrection and the recent conviction of founder Stewart Rhodes, he still has not taken any steps to resign his membership or renounce his membership, either publicly or privately,” Dudukgian said.

He said they would present evidence that the Oath Keepers combined extremist rhetoric about the insurrection with seditious conduct, and claimed the group would fight either with or without Trump’s support.

“And on Jan. 6, they did exactly what they said they were going to do,” Dudukgian said, later adding: “They had a singular purpose, which was to stop the transfer of presidential power.”

Dudukgian’s first two witnesses were to be experts on terrorism who have studied the Oath Keepers extensively.

Miller objected to the plaintiff's selection of experts, saying they should only bring in people who could testify to the facts of the case.

“They would have subpoenaed, for example, various Oath Keepers, they would have subpoenaed people that had actually witnessed what happened on Jan. 6 or any other individual that had evidence that they believe relevant to the ultimate issue in the case, and that is whether or not the Oath Keepers is, in fact, an organization that advocates by force of violence the overthrow of the government,” Miller said.

McKenna said he agreed with Miller that as a general proposition, an expert cannot be used as a conduit for hearsay, but he said he needs to see the evidence and hear the testimony before deciding on Miller’s standing objection.

Eastman, who sat with Miller in a Palmer courtroom, is on a list of witnesses that Miller plans to call, along with Oath Keepers members.

https://www.yahoo.com/now/trial-starts-alaska-lawmaker-oath-002347136.html

I know it's not stolen luggage worthy but still......

During the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, Eastman was the sole vote in the Alaska House of Representatives against a non-binding resolution to supply military aid to Ukraine.

Eastman is against abortion in all forms. He tried to add a right-to-life amendment to a non-controversial resolution in 2017 that designated April as Sexual Assault Awareness Month, and filed a complaint when the committee wouldn't consider his amendment.

In May 2017, Eastman was involved in a controversy regarding his remarks suggesting that native Alaskan women in villages try to get pregnant on purpose to get a "free trip to the city" for abortion. He claims there are too many "incentives" to get an abortion and said, "We have folks who try to get pregnant in this state so that they can get a free trip to the city, and we have folks who want to carry their baby past the point of being able to have an abortion in this state so that they can have a free trip to Seattle." He provided no evidence for these statements, but asserted, "a number of people have come to (his) office with stories, experiences."The Alaska House of Representatives voted to censure Eastman because of his remarks.

In April 2017, Eastman voted against a bill to honor Hmong veterans and the more than 100,000 Hmong people who died in the Vietnam War supporting the United States. He also voted against a bill honoring black soldiers who worked on the Alaska Highway. He has also opposed the recognition of Black History Month.

Eastman was an activist for the Tea Party movement.

In late September 2021, following a hack of the group's internal data, it was revealed that Eastman's name was among the some 38,000 people whose names appear on a lifetime membership roster of the Oath Keepers; a far-right militia organization. Records show that Eastman is a lifetime member of the Oath Keepers, as reported by BuzzFeed News and other organizations.

As a consequence of his membership, on January 31, 2022, five members of the seven-member Committees on Committees, two Republicans, two Democrats and an Independent, all members of the House majority coalition, voted to remove Eastman from his membership on some committees.


Following Donald Trump's loss in the 2020 United States presidential election, Eastman posted on his website that, "The election process that has been observed thus far by the American people has been abused to such a degree that, in my view, it can no longer be called an election. To call what the American people have observed 'an election', under the United States Constitution, would be fundamentally dishonest."

Eastman traveled to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021, to protest the Electoral College vote count which confirmed Joe Biden's victory, and to see Trump speak at the "Stop the Steal" rally. He spoke to Alaska Public Radio as he walked from the rally to the Capitol and was photographed a few hundred feet from the Capitol building. He later described the storming of the Capitol building as "pretty terrible."The next day he promoted false claims that the attack on the Capitol was the work of antifa. These claims were debunked by multiple sources.

On November 11, 2021, sixty-nine local and other graduates of West Point, New York wrote a letter published in Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, Eastman's local paper, to demand that he resign from the legislature since, though he had stressed his military credentials and training at the United States Military Academy, he had dishonored the ideals of The Long Gray Line, that is, those who had matriculated at the USMA.

A letter written on behalf of a group of 750 West Point alumni harshly decried any attempt to run Eastman out of office, and its author noted: "There are in excess of 54,000 living graduates of the academy. The idea that 70-odd people represent us is a concern and kind of laughable when you think about the vanishingly small portion of living graduates that they represent.”



May not? Definitely not fit for office. Sit down Mr. Eastman

Not Jan. 6th but a similar act of domestic terrorism perpetrated on America by the enemies of Democracy.....

Men convicted of supporting Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot given lengthy prison sentences

December 15, 2022 / 12:25 PM / CBS/AP

A judge on Thursday handed down the longest prison terms so far in the plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, sentencing three men who forged an early alliance with a leader of the scheme before the FBI broke it up in 2020. Pete Musico was sentenced to a minimum of 12 years in prison, followed by Joe Morrison at 10 years and Paul Bellar at seven.

They did not have a direct role in the conspiracy but were members of a paramilitary group that trained with Adam Fox, who faces a possible life sentence in a separate case in federal court.

Morrison, Musico and Bellar will be eligible for parole after serving their terms.

The trio was convicted in October of providing material support for a terrorist act, which carries a maximum term of 20 years, and two other crimes.

Whitmer spoke in a recorded video before Jackson County Judge Thomas Wilson set the sentences, saying the actions of the three was a "threat to democracy itself."

After the convictions of Fox and Barry Croft Jr. in August, Whitmer said the verdicts proved "that violence and threats have no place in our politics and those who seek to divide us will be held accountable."

Wilson presided over the first batch of convictions in state court, following the high-profile conspiracy convictions of four others in federal court. Fox and Croft were described as captains of an incredible plan to snatch Whitmer from her vacation home, seeking to inspire a U.S. civil war known as the "boogaloo."

Whitmer, a Democrat recently elected to a second term, was never physically harmed. Undercover FBI agents and informants were inside Fox's group for months, and the scheme was broken up with 14 arrests in October 2020.

Musico, 45, Morrison, 28, and Bellar, 24, were members of the Wolverine Watchmen. The three held gun training with Fox in rural Jackson County and shared his disgust for Whitmer, police and public officials, especially after COVID-19 restrictions disrupted the economy and triggered armed Capitol protests and anti-government belligerence.

But defense attorneys argued that the trio had cut ties with Fox before the Whitmer plot came into focus by late summer of 2020; Bellar had moved to South Carolina in July. The three men also didn't travel with Fox to look for the governor's second home or participate in a key training session inside a "shoot house" in Luther, Michigan.

"Mr. Bellar is clueless about any plot to kidnap the governor," attorney Andrew Kirkpatrick said again in a court filing last week.

A jury, however, quickly returned guilty verdicts in October after hearing nine days of testimony, mostly evidence offered by a pivotal FBI informant, Dan Chappel, and federal agents. The jury agreed with prosecutors that the Wolverine Watchmen constituted a criminal gang.

Separately, in federal court in Grand Rapids, Fox and Croft face possible life sentences in two weeks. Two men who pleaded guilty received substantial breaks: Ty Garbin is free after a 2 1/2-year prison term while Kaleb Franks was given a four-year sentence. Brandon Caserta and Daniel Harris were acquitted by a jury.

When the plot was foiled, Whitmer blamed then-President Donald Trump, saying he had given "comfort to those who spread fear and hatred and division." In August, after 19 months out of office, Trump said the kidnapping plan was a "fake deal."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gretch...Ms2BAoxAuNlSy9ZOxCXHIkl6x0fAv6t44jRRuFO4

everything is fake to trump, unless it comes directly out of his butt or pie hole.

QAnon follower who led mob sentenced in Jan. 6 Capitol attack

He led rioters who chased Capitol Police officer Eugene Goodman.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/qan...zhBXaoYNQ3j0PnJdc-ULnaPJyiXxJ96haxX49sVM

Five years. Another one bites the dust.

Only five years Pfft.

Tennessee men, including suspected Jan. 6 rioter, charged with plotting attack on FBI Knoxville office

A suspected Capitol rioter facing charges for his alleged role in the Jan. 6, 2021 insurrection is accused of plotting attacks on law enforcement personnel and an FBI field office in Tennessee.

Edward Kelley, 33, was arrested along with 26-year-old Austin Carter, both Tennessee residents, in connection with a plan to attack law enforcement personnel involved in the Jan. 6 criminal investigation, the Justice Department said.

"Federal law enforcement agents put their lives on the line every day to protect the public," said U.S. Attorney Francis Hamilton III. "Planning and threatening violence against them is among the most serious of crimes. It is absolutely unacceptable and will be vigorously investigated and prosecuted."

Both men are charged with conspiracy, retaliating against a federal official, interstate communication of a threat, and solicitation to commit a crime of violence. They appeared in federal court Friday in Knoxville.

At some point, Kelley obtained a list of law enforcement personnel involved in the Jan. 6 criminal investigation, federal prosecutors said. Kelley, Carter and a cooperating witness discussed killing the law enforcement personnel and planning an attack on the FBI's Knoxville Field Office, prosecutors said.

"Today's allegations that individuals sought to attack and hurt or kill FBI personnel are sickening," FBI Director Christopher Wray said.

Kelley's arrest came as he fights charges related to his alleged assault on a law enforcement officer during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

In that case, he is charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers, civil disorder, destruction of government property related to his alleged actions on Jan. 6.

Both men were ordered detained Friday. Carter has a detention hearing scheduled for Dec. 21.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/tennessee-men-including-suspected-jan-013351861.html

Murica!

Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio and subordinates go to trial in Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy case

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/enriqu...cNjoRQ9JRWq9AR9n01XLnh1A4NMaeuxq4LKg30GU

This must be one of the things they're proud of.

tHeY’rE pATriOTs

Isn't justice like this something we endorse? I was under the impression it was. Justice sometimes takes time. You seem to elate at every prosecution, and that's fine.

I have no idea what you are trying to say here with this Tshirt....

I have no idea why you would say that. Of course it takes time. And the more money you have the longer you can use legal maneuvers, delay and appeal decisions. Where did I indicate that it didn't take time? I'm all for allowing the legal process to play its course. And the reason I point out these charges and convictions is because you had many people claiming that Jan. 6th was no big deal. They were carrying on talking about how nobody had been convicted of any serious crimes. That nobody was being given long sentences. It was as if they didn't comprehend or were trying to downplay just how serious this all was.

Well it was a big deal and quite serious. It was an attempt to undermine and subvert our election process. Some including myself feel these convictions are newsworthy and I think the history books will show just how serious this was.

Did they have their Trump NFT card to keep cops repelled. I can't believe the stuff the idiot Trumpites buy.....damn he's a hell of a con man. And he was elected by the idiots.....amazing.

Elected by idiots? How's this for idiot: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-uncle-purple-heart/

There are so, so many more examples of this idiot thinking whatever he says is golden, and true.

Corn pop anyone?

Corn pop was a bad dude. I have it on good authority.

Corn pop ran a bad gang. They were waiting outside the pool for little Joey..........sharpening their knives on the cement curb. All he had was a 'length' of chain, but he somehow got corn pop to back down.

Just like his first wife was killed by a drunk driver. Except his wife pulled in front of the truck, and no alcohol was involved. Other than the sadness of the deaths, it's a great story. STORY.

And his son was killed in Iraq? No, his son died of brain cancer, years after Iraq.

There is no story this guy tells that is true, but so many buy into it.

Just like him bragging about getting a prosecutor in Ukraine fired. You know, the prosecutor that was investigating his son. Lil Joey bragged about holding the money back unless the dude was fired. And "son of a B, he was fired before I left."

Awe... You're trying to compare a president who has actually done something to guy who tried to overturn our election process to remain in power. Bless your heart.

It's just my opinion, but Biggs, Gosar, Boebart, Greene and Gaetz have done as much damage to the American Democracy as Trump has and should face the same criminal prosecution as Trump. They should all be tried and hopefully convicted of fostering an insurrection. They also, with their words, caused many folks to turn on America. For my money, if that isn't a crime, it should be.

The 800 + pages of the J6 final report dropped last night and from what's been put out there, it's a stunning piece of work that shows, in a step by step, day by day fashion exactly how Trump and his cronies decided Months and Months prior to the 2020 election that they were going to deny the value of the election. They started (especially/mostly Trump) to set up the loss for Trump and set blame on Democrats committing fraud.

What's really funny is that he had 4 years to make sure the election system was repaired.. Instead state by RED state tried to GerryMander and limit the ability to those in minority neighborhoods to vote. Florida, Georgia, Arizona, PA, Wisconsin.. All tried to make it harder for some folks to even vote.. Texas eliminated all but ONE voting location in a county that was mostly democrat.

They tried, they failed and still complained about it and blamed others for their failure. Typical Trump and typical radical right wing nut bags like those mentioned above.

My hope is that they all end up in jail.. or at least out of public office.

J6 Committee reveals Paul Gosar was texting with 'Stop the Steal' group while locked down in Capitol

On Wednesday, transcripts released by the House Select Committee on January 6 revealed, in an interview transcript with Donald Trump ally Alexander Bruesewitz, that far-right Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ), an ardent ally of the former president, texted with a "Stop the Steal" group while he was locked down in the Capitol.

Asked about this, Bruesewitz declined to give any details, and invoked his constitutional rights.

"Can we pull up exhibit 9 again which is the Stop the Steal DM chat, and let's go to page 62," said investigators in the transcript. "So we're still on January 6, and it looks like at 5:15 p.m. eastern time. Again, Representative Gosar sends the group a direct message that says, 'We're still on lockdown in the congressional office.' And he sends it to the entire Stop the Steal group. So were you in communications with Representative Gosar throughout January 6th?"

"I respectfully plead the Fifth," replied Bruesewitz.

Bruesewitz responded the same way to the question, "To the best of your knowledge, why is Representative Gosar sharing that his office was on lockdown with this Stop the Steal group?"

Last year, reporting revealed that Gosar, a committed election conspiracy theorist, also told perpetrators of the January 6 attack that they could receive a blanket pardon from Trump if he reclaims the presidency.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...while-locked-down-in-capitol/ar-AA15xUIC

They don't care OCD. they just don't give a damn.

The worst part of this is that his die hard followers believe him rather than their lying eyes....

Way back in 2017, I got into a spirited back&forth with 40YEARSWAITING. In that exchange, I made a three-fold prediction about this man:

1. He's too stupid/uninformed/uninvolved to avoid impeachment.
2. He's too corrupt to avoid legal entanglements/problems.
3. When he finally flames out, it will be in spectacular fashion.

Now, a certain % of DT/PP posters will (and have) attribute(d) this to Clemdawg's blind hatred of Donald J. Trump. I can understand that. I've said a great many unflattering things about the man over these past years. It would be natural for a good many folks to think that of me. After all, they have my own words as their proof. I've even stated outright that I don't like him, using this as my rationale: "This man's life is an example of every human trait that my Baptist faith and My Parents trained me to loathe and reject.


When I first saw this man, I recognized him as someone My Faith and My Parents trained me to be on the lookout for... decades before he was even on any political stage. At 22 years of age, I'd already seen scores of guys just like him, from the annual county fair midway barker to the mansion-owning MegaChurch pastor-for-profit.

By the time I made my predix to 40¢, I already knew that no reputable bank in Manhattan/USA would float him a loan (enter: sketchy-ass DeutcheBank). I already knew that he would do/say anything to stay on a page- ANY page- of the New York Times. I already knew that he would do/say anything on Howard Stern's syndicated radio show to remain the news. I already knew that his public relations campaign regarding the Central Park 5 ran into a slight snag when the defendants were acquitted of any and all criminal culpability- and that he doubled-down on his claims, counter to all facts and evidence to the contrary. I already knew that he'd always stiffed contractors/vendors that he owed, that he'd run a casino into bankruptcy, he'd been busted for running a phony for-profit private 'college' (Trump University) and that he'd been running his life one half-step ahead of The Law for the past 40+ years.

So it's been actually pretty easy for me to play the role of SemiNegrodamus© in 2022, regarding the subject matter. Because, seriously- it really was only a matter of time, with this one. He has shown us who he is, for more than 40 years in America's headlines.


1. I wasn't just right about him, I was right X2.
2. I wasn't just right about him, I was also right to the extent that he's currently being investigated by not only federal law enforcement, but also multiple state law enforcement agencies.
3. This predix is the only one not yet borne out.


10:10 in the vid tells us all we need to know.


Only predix3 remains to be seen.
Anyone wanna bet against Clemdawg's 2017 predix?



This isn't about politics.
This is about character.
And what America is willing to tolerate as her basement floor of citizenry.


RLOne and Juanita raised their boy to see what's in front of him.