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This website keeps crashing for me. Anyone else? This is probably one of the worst days for it to do so.

A few times earlier -- doing better for me now. Last time I looked there were over 20 members, 50 guests and 100 bots, maybe that has something to do with it.


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Sorry to hear about Myles' family member. Class move by the Browns to let him be away from the team.

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I hope myles family endures some tough times


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I know what you mean, but you may want to reword that sentence. wink

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I didn't mean any offense either. Just thought it was humorous in a weird sort of way.

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I know what you mean, but you may want to reword that sentence. wink


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Having a back as talented as Ford fourth on the depth chart is ridiculous. My guess is that he won’t be fourth in the depth chart week one.

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Originally Posted by cfrs15
Having a back as talented as Ford fourth on the depth chart is ridiculous. My guess is that he won’t be fourth in the depth chart week one.

I like what I see out of Kelly as well.

Yes, there is a depth chart, so Chubb starts etc., but with the backs we have the depth chart is almost meaningless. We could play any of them and be pretty darn good. Stefanski could throw a dart at the names on the depth chart to determine the lead back and end up in good shape.

I also think it leads credence to the thought that backs are somewhat disposable when you have a good run blocking line. We tend to give backs all the credit when the warthogs up front are the ones providing the necessary room to get things started.


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When we drafted Ford I did not know a thing about him. So, I started watching his college tape.

He looked damn good to me. He had a good game last week. I expect to see more of him.

What a luxury. Hunt is not worth trading if we get a 5th rounder. He is worth way more to us this season.

It is a good feeling knowing the depth we have at running back.

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Multiple good posts in a row about the quality of our RBs and OL. Hopefully, this forum can return to football only in the very near future.

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Most football people know that teams benefit way more from joint practices than they do the actual preseason game. With yesterday's new about Watson, the reports were not exactly flying off the presses, but I'll post a couple.



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Cleveland Browns Training Camp Recap: Day 15 - Eagles Joint Practice, Part 1

The Eagles come to town for the first of two practices.

By Chris Pokorny@DawgsByNature Aug 18, 2022, 7:30pm EDT 3 Comments / 3 New

Here is Thursday’s practice report for the Browns from Berea:

Cleveland Browns Training Camp Report - Day 15 (8/18/22)
1. Eagles Come to Berea: The Philadelphia Eagles were in Berea today for the first of two joint practices with the Browns. It was not a public practice session, though, and even though the media was in attendance, they were not allowed to take pictures or video during practice.

Although both teams got good work in, the news related to practice was a bit low-key, thanks to the Deshaun Watson suspension news breaking around noon today. Practice started at 2:00 PM and lasted 1 hour, 45 minutes, but leading up to practice you had the suspension news, the press conference with ownership and Andrew Berry, and the press conference with Watson himself. I’ll leave that discussion for our main article on it. Watson did practice against the Eagles, but he will not participate in either of the team’s final two preseason games.

2. Garrett’s Absence Explained: We got more details on why DE Myles Garrett missed his fourth straight practice, per Mary Kay Cabot of the Plain Dealer. Garrett is reportedly on his way back to Cleveland, and might take part in Friday’s joint practice session.


3. Ward Upgraded to Team Drills: CB Denzel Ward only spent a few days in individual drills, and was taking part in team drills (at least some 7-on-7s) against the Eagles. No tackling was permitted on the day by players.

4. Rough Day for the Rookie: Per Hayden Grove, it was a rough day for rookie WR David Bell, who won’t move up the depth chart with days like this:


5. Browns’ Defensive Highlights: Since notes were scarce, here’s a few defensive blurbs from Camryn Justice:


6. Drill of the Day: Here is LT Jedrick Wills keeping his ground on a pass rush by the Eagles. The Browns’ Twitter account tweeted out a few select highlights:


The other highlight they tweeted was this cut by RB Jerome Ford, leaving a defender wincing:


7. Keeping it Tame: Head coach Kevin Stefanski didn’t want to see fights during the joint practices, and for the first one, both teams “kept it clean.” Sometimes you hear about one team dominating another during joint practices, but that wasn’t the case here, as both sides got their share of plays in for an even day.


8. Brownies: Eagles WR DeVonta Smith burned CB Greedy Williams early on in practice. ... LB Jacob Phillips picked off QB Gardner Minshew during 11-on-11 drills. ... WR Anthony Schwartz continues to try rehabbing his drop issues, catching a deep seam route from QB Deshaun Watson. ... All of the tight ends made nice catches for Cleveland.

9. Next Up: The Browns will hold their second joint practice against the Eagles on Friday at 2:00 PM ET.


https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2022/...ecap-day-15-eagles-joint-practice-part-1

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Eagles-Browns joint practice recap: DeVonta Smith, A.J. Brown shine; 2 young players hinder Deshaun Watson; veteran corner out

Updated: Aug. 18, 2022, 8:29 p.m.|Published: Aug. 18, 2022, 5:49 p.m.



By Chris Franklin | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com


BEREA, OH – The Eagles lined up to run a play during the first of two joint practices between the Eagles and Cleveland Browns at CrossCountry Mortgage Campus in Berea, OH Thursday. After a run was called in the Eagles huddle, the offense made their way to the line of scrimmage. After the snap, Browns linebacker Jacob Phillips shot through a gap, thinking he would get a tackle for loss and hear the celebration from his teammates on the sideline.


The one thing Phillips did not account for was Eagles left guard Landon Dickerson coming down the line of scrimmage with speed, using his 332-pound frame to bowl over Phillips of the “pancake” block, the one that linemen covet. Dickerson was the one dancing in the direction of the Eagles sideline, celebrating the block and the substantial yardage gained on the play.




Dickerson’s outburst was not the only thing heard during the practice. Browns players were yelling after an interception, with the entire Browns defense going to an end zone to celebrate. There were also a couple of instances where cornerbacks and wide receivers were having long “conversations” as they jogged back into their huddles, making sure they had made their point.

Although it was not a full-fledged game, the intensity and the chirping from both sidelines at times made it feel like it were a regular season game instead of a preseason practice, a byproduct of having joint practices.

Eagles tight end Dallas Goedert said that facing off against players not on his team led to the increased energy and tension throughout practice.

“They make a play, and they cheer, then we make a play, and we cheer,” Goedert said after practice. “It’s all in good fun. That’s what you don’t have when you’re practicing against yourself as much or in the offseason when you have OTAs, so it’s fun to get back out here, get a little chippy and bring the intensity up. It makes us all better.”


Eagles cornerback Avonte Maddox said the energy was just one of the things head coach Nick Sirianni wanted to see from his players. The other involved the smaller parts of their game.

“We came out here with a lot of energy and to compete at a high level, doing everything that we have been taught to do,” Maddox said. “We have to do our fundamentals. The small details were the main thing that he (Sirianni) focused on.”

Two young players make plays against Browns’ Deshaun Watson, second-team offense

Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson dropped back to pass late in Thursday’s practice, looking to see if he could find a receiver who was open. It had been a long day for Watson, having to face the music after the news that he would be facing an 11-game suspension resulting from the 20-plus accusations of sexual impropriety levied against him.


With the Browns needing Jacoby Brissett to get more time with the first-team offense because of Watson’s penalty, Watson was relegated to backup status. During this play, Watson was looking to get something right on the field. After locking to wide receiver David Bell, he threw in his direction. However, Eagles safety K’Von Wallace hustled over to where Bell was and deflected the pass. Wallace’s play was one of several the Eagles second-team defense had against Watson in the full team game-situations scenarios the two teams had at the end of practice.



Linebacker Patrick Johnson put sustained pressure on Watson, recording a sack and at least two hurries. Johnson has come on as of late, making a strong push to show why he should be on the active roster for the second year in a row. Wallace has needed a practice to stand out, especially with Josiah Scott and Reed Blankenship playing well at safety. Wallace’s breakup could be the play that brings him back in the race as a legitimate candidate to remain with the team.


Wide receivers DeVonta Smith and A.J. Brown take advantage of injured Browns secondary

The Browns are dealing with some secondary issues, with starting cornerback Denzel Ward playing sparingly as he comes back from a foot injury that landed him on the physically unable to perform (PUP) list before camp began and Greg Newsome also working on returning from an injury.

Their absence allowed Brown and Smith to find ways to get open, using their detailed route-running ability to set up defensive backs to go one way, leading to separation on the outside.

On the first pass in the one-on-one session between the wide receivers and defensive backs, quarterback Jalen Hurts threw a fade to Brown over Browns cornerback Greedy Williams, making a one-handed catch. Later in the 11-on-11 team sessions, Smith saw a significant share of the targets, with the Browns trying to eliminate Brown from getting big plays. During one stretch, Smith was targeted three straight times and caught all three passes.

Eagles start fast, Browns catch up

Hurts’ throw to Brown set the tone early, with the Eagles moving the ball well through the air. The Browns came back and made some plays, making adjustments and playing stouter defense, especially their second and third units. The Eagles first unit made up for the stagnant play from the reserves, redeeming themselves by having strong 11 on 11 periods late in practice.



Veteran corner misses practice

Cornerback James Bradberry did not participate Thursday because of a groin injury. Bradberry left practice on Tuesday to check it out but returned to watch for the rest of the session. Bradberry is a vital piece to the secondary since he, Maddox, and Darius Slay make up one of the better cornerback trios in the league. Other defensive players out included defensive tackle Javon Hargrave (toe) and linebacker Christian Elliss (hamstring).

Running back Miles Sanders missed practice again with a hamstring injury, giving Kenneth Gainwell and Boston Scott more snaps with the first team. Both were used successfully by quarterback Jalen Hurts as outlets, with the backs catching the ball in the flat to pick up decent gains and move the down marker further along. Center Jason Kelce (elbow), wide receiver Greg Ward (toe), and tight end Grant Calcaterra (hamstring) did not participate in practice.

Here are some other notable moments from practice:


-Eagles right tackle Lane Johnson had a good day against Browns defensive end Jadeveon Clowney, showing off his footwork to make sure he got himself in a good position to stymie Clowney’s pass rush.

-Eagles wide receiver John Hightower ran one of his best routes of training camp against Browns cornerback Martin Emmerson Jr., selling as if he were going one way before heading in the opposite direction. Emmerson bit on the first move, which allowed Hightower to get almost eight yards of separation.

-Eagles defensive end Josh Sweat used his speed to get around the edge to “sack” Brissett when the Eagles’ first-team defense went to a far-field to take on the Browns first-team offense.

The Eagles will be back on the field for another joint practice in Berea scheduled to begin at 2 p.m.


https://www.nj.com/eagles/2022/08/e...r-deshaun-watson-veteran-corner-out.html

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Must have been interesting for Jon Gannon to come back and coach defense against his hometown team growing up.


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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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We need Wills to improve this year or else we’ll be in limbo with his future imo


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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We need Wills to improve this year or else we’ll be in limbo with his future imo

Tough gig following JT.


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This is good news. I hope this guy can be a reliable starter if we are not bringing Tretter back. We still need to find another center during cuts I think.


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Fletcher Cox has been one of the most underrated players in the league for a long time. He's getting up there, but he is a mountain of a man and is hard to handle.

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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
We need Wills to improve this year or else we’ll be in limbo with his future imo

He will be the RT. We may need to start looking for a LT at some point.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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We need Wills to improve this year or else we’ll be in limbo with his future imo

He will be the RT. We may need to start looking for a LT at some point.

This is looking more and more like a failed experiment of trying to move a guy to LT in the NFL having never played the position. The scouting reports on Wills said he'd most likely be a guard at the NFL level. Shame the Browns wasted a 1st round pick on him when they could have gotten Williams whose been the best LT in football the last 2 years. Oh well, live and learn - LT will move up to the most needed position going into next off season and us without a 1st round pick. Hard decision for the Browns coming up when they must decide if they are going to exercise Wills 5th year option when they'd be moving him to a different position.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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We need Wills to improve this year or else we’ll be in limbo with his future imo

He will be the RT. We may need to start looking for a LT at some point.

He had a pretty good rookie year at LT and struggled last year due to injuries. I don't get this narrative of switching him to RT.


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Fletcher Cox has been a menace for a decade or so. we don’t see the Eagles much, but he’s so disruptive


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