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Phillips is next man up.
He now steps into a big role with the injury to Walker. Walker was a captain and team leader. In addition he wore the green dot.
That role now lays with Phillips.
He has good physical tools. He is long and fast. The potential is there.
This is a new role for him and one that carries a lot of responsibility.
Sometimes when a player is part time and comes in and off the field. It is harder to get into the flow of the game. Phillips seemed to play better as he stayed on the field.
This is a big test for him. He will be expected to hold this position for the rest of this season. He has a lot on the line. Play well and it is a big boost to his career. Falter and he may only be backup.
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I've noticed a few times over the last 2 yaear when Philips has made good plays - from the eye test, he looks the part and doesn't appear over matched last couple of years. I think I remember him struggling a little his rookie year? Or maybe he was injured? As a third round pick - you would hope he's at the stage where he is ready to contribute. Walker has experience on his side and he's made played in coverage - but I don't remember him making big plays in the run game or jumping off the screen.
Big opportunity for Phillips - I hope he steps up and I don't expect a big drop off from Walker and possibly a bigger impact on the run game than Walker.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Walker isn't very good. I was surprised they brought him back.
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Here are his PFF grades and a scouting report from his college career. PFF Grades: Run: 41.3 Pass: 42.5 Pass Rush: 71.3 Overall: 38.0 ___________________________________ Scouting Report: JACOB PHILLIPS LSU LB Prospect Info COLLEGE LSU HOMETOWN CLASS Nashville, TN Junior HEIGHT WEIGHT ARMS 6' 3" 229 lbs 32 3/8" HANDS 10" Prospect Grade 5.98 Average Backup Or Special-Teamer View All Prospects 2020 Draft Results DRAFTED BY CLEVELAND BROWNS Cleveland Browns Round 3 ‧ Pick 33 Read More Combine Results u-unofficial 40 Yard Dash 4.66 Bench Press -- Vertical Jump 39 Broad Jump 126 3 Cone Drill 7.38 20 Yd Shuttle 4.33 60 Yd Shuttle -- Player Bio Phillips took over a leadership role for the Tigers' inside linebacker group from Devin White as a junior and helped his team win a national title. He started all 15 games in the middle in 2019, leading the squad with 113 tackles (7.5 for loss). Phillips started 11 of 12 games played next to White in 2018, posting 87 tackles, 5.5 for loss, one interception (that he returned for a touchdown), and three pass breakups. The Nashville native and top-50 overall prospect nationally contributed in 12 games as a reserve (18 tackles) his true freshman season. Analysis By Lance Zierlein NFL Analyst Draft Projection Rounds 3-4 Overview Phillips is a reliable option but lacks the alpha field demeanor and explosive athleticism teams look for. He has backup talent and should step into a special teams role quickly. Early tape was better than later tape as the competition level increased. He does an adequate job of handling his assignments but won't make that many plays outside of the scheme. Strengths Learns from mistakes and adjusts during game Plays team-first, assignment-oriented football Consistent to fit and leverage his gap Can cover punts and kicks Didn't miss many tackles in 2019 Good job of holding tight and not driving headfirst into the gap with no plans Willing to wait for running back to clear the lane Very productive tackle totals as two-year starter Weaknesses Lacks physical strength and alpha demeanor inside Struggled to find positioning and play with confidence against Alabama Redirected fairly easily by power Below-average base to take on blocks in space Average pursuit speed sideline to sideline Not slippery when sliding past blocks Average foot quickness for lateral scrapes Absorbs blocks rather than delivering the blow Can be hesitant to pull the trigger downhill Drag-down tackler Doesn't shock with hands in take-on Below average pattern awareness to cover man-to-man Slow gaining depth on spot drops Sources Tell Us "He's very quiet and he's not a natural leader. He was really solid this year but that scheme is set up for linebackers to run around and make a bunch of tackles." -- Area scout for NFC team https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jacob-phillips/32005048-4925-4322-4ff5-33f36c969da0
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Jordan Kunaszyk, (go teat for tat) name a player, raise ya a player. ) ... you say tomato, i'll also say tomato because I've never heard anyone ever say tom-ah-to,
so who is going to step up? If the team has 5 defensive starters out. Who'll be the lineup?
Emm kay. Today = pitching
Tomorrow= catching.
I don't know, 3RD BAsE,
what's on 2nd and
Who is on first. Jordan Elliott, and Tommy Togiai,
$ione Taki Taki, Jacob Phillips, and Tony Fields, and maybe Jordan Kunaszyk
Linebackers and safeties, if you plan to stop the run <-- they need to step up.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Is there any Browns player, has there ever been a Browns player you actually like(d)?
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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He's got the man-crush on Baker. Does that count?
HERE WE GO BROWNIES! HERE WE GO!!
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Is there any Browns player, has there ever been a Browns player you actually like(d)? I like a lot of them. I have not seen enough of Phillips to offer an intelligent analysis. I decided to post information from two sources for informational purposes only and I did not offer an opinion one way or the other. But.......why do you care? You have disowned the team and are rooting for Baker instead of the Browns. Good luck w/that.
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Rookie safety D'Anthony Bell.
Put him in the game as a 3rd linebacker/safety hybrid, Just to rush the @uarterback.
He can blitz the Jordan Elliott gap if nothing else.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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let’s hope he’s up for that challenge. He is way more athletic than Walker … pretty fast side to side, but also a little reckless IMO.
he did play well against Pittsburgh IIRC
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I like a lot of them. I have not seen enough of Phillips to offer an intelligent analysis. That's the part difficult to understand, If a waiter, brings me a steak, or a piece of cake, or a pie, or really anything, you can decide if you like it, if it's good in a matter of seconds, it's the same with football. And you can read a lot into those longwinded analysises to just pick out a few parts by reading between the lines.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I liked this kid Phillps when we drafted him. He's been hurt but now I think he's 100%. I picked him to be my surprise player for this year when we discussed that topic. Well, this is his chance and I'm really pulling for him. I think he has the tools to be more than a SP player and backup. Well see.
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They did bring him back. Then they elected him captain.
He wore the green dot because they chose him. He is super popular as a player both here and when he was with the Colts.
He was playing well. He will never be a total stud but he is good player who had an important role.
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Phillips has always been more than a special teams player.
Anthony Walker too.
Walker is hurt an all year injury, and Phillips had two all year injuries in the last 3 years.
If they both could get and stay healthy at the same time.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I think Atlanta will be a good test for Phillips.
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Some of our players are going to have to step up tomorrow and grab the Bull by the horns. This is a winnable game and we need it.
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Even when healthy our linebackers are the worst group in the league. Phillips is horrible, he will not be much. We should have brought in schobert or Martinez but Berry refuses to fix his mistakes. That’s why we still trot out the Phillips and Schwartz of the world. Going to be a rough stretch
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
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Even when healthy our linebackers are the worst group in the league. Phillips is horrible, he will not be much. We should have brought in schobert or Martinez but Berry refuses to fix his mistakes. That’s why we still trot out the Phillips and Schwartz of the world. Going to be a rough stretch Get over Schobert.
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Even when healthy our linebackers are the worst group in the league. Phillips is horrible, he will not be much. We should have brought in schobert or Martinez but Berry refuses to fix his mistakes. That’s why we still trot out the Phillips and Schwartz of the world. Going to be a rough stretch Get over Schobert. pretty dumb statement..but then again I see the source. Don't need to "get over" anyone, I couldn't care less about Schobert, but he must have done something to you personally. Bottom line is both of the names I mentioned are better than the trash we are running with. Point is moot because Titans elevated him to active roster
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
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Jacob Phillips is pretty solid.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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I don't get the green dot stuff the last few years.
The guy wears the earpiece, gets the call from the sidelines and relays that to the guys in the huddle. Are players today so stupid they can't repeat things they are told? Is their ability to speak clearly so inferior other people can't understand what they are saying?
You get the call and repeat. I never saw Walker turning around and instructing the defensive backfield or D-line where to line up. Being the defensive green dot on D isn't the same as being a quarterback.
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I think the issue w/the green dot thing is that apparently different guys were wearing it this year. I think it was Ward who said that???? Also, we haven't always huddled up because Ward was shadowing the other team's best WR, so it is feasible that there were communication breakdowns. JJ said that huddling last week was a really big help w/communication.
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Even when healthy our linebackers are the worst group in the league. Phillips is horrible, he will not be much. We should have brought in schobert or Martinez but Berry refuses to fix his mistakes. That’s why we still trot out the Phillips and Schwartz of the world. Going to be a rough stretch Get over Schobert. pretty dumb statement..but then again I see the source. Don't need to "get over" anyone, I couldn't care less about Schobert, but he must have done something to you personally. Bottom line is both of the names I mentioned are better than the trash we are running with. Point is moot because Titans elevated him to active roster See the source? Get out your feelings.
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