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Andrew Berry made the move to release Richard LeCount yesterday
To make room for oline help.
Tell how Anthony Schwartz is still on this roster??
He contributes nothing on Sundays other than getting
Donuts and coffee for the coaching staff pre game
I don't understand Berry's infatuation and love for this WR.
He is a 3rd RD pick that has shown no ability to play
At this level in 2 years.
You don't draft developmental players in RD 3. You draft
Players that can step on the field and make plays right away
He is worse than Greg Little, Travis Wilson , and Paul Hubbard.
Berry is so in love with the WR room now and it's the weakest
Unit on the whole roster
There are FA WRs waiting to be signed that can be upgrades
Over Schwartz. Schwartz is a flag football player at best

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I think analytics probably show how much he can do for our offense with different personnel groupings and expanding the field both ways.

I think everyone’s eyes say he stinks.

He’s certainly not done much for us to justify a spot.


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Admit it. It would be hard to replace his production.

Remind me what he has done. We could use a run stuffer, I have heard.


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I saw him on the field for a bit in the last game (Falcons). My first thought was, "Don't throw the ball to him!"

Hopefully if they keep him he'll prove us all wrong. But I wouldn't bet on it.

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It's the Browns and it's analytics so @ue-sera-sera.
give the kid a break
give the kid a break
break him off a piece of that kit-kat bar.

It'd be nice to see a really really well coached game next kickoff.


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He’s done next to nothing. Cut! Seriously, he’s been close to useless.


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He is Berry's boy named Sven. He will survive his contract.

With all the roster moves the last day or so, I am not even sure who we picked up....that Dline player? Could be they have some sort of roster balance between D and O they want to maintain. I know everybody is down on Schwantz, but it's not like LeCounte did anything of note.


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Huge bust. Dude doesn't have a catch in three straight. Gambled on the speed and lost.

Doesn't even get involved on jet sweeps, can't even hand him the ball lmao

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I'm guessing they want to see what he does with Watson.


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FYI Berry is the guy that drafted Corey Coleman too. Sashi was the defacto GM at the time but the player rankings were done by Berry and the Scouts.


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Berry/Sashi was trying to give Hue what he wanted. Sadly, Hue is horrible at judging what he needs.


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I doubt that Hue wanted Corey Coleman over Wentz or Goff.

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i think Hue wanted Goff, but Goff went before we were scheduled to pick. I don't think he wanted Wentz. After we decided to trade down, I think Hue wanted speed/playmaking at WR. 2016 feels like a long time ago, and you couldn't trust what they were saying even back then. *shrug*

Berry and Sashi strike me as people that try to give their HC what he wants, within reason. Hue has always been somewhat of a my way or the highway ("I'm driving the bus") guy. Sadly once Hue got his way in Coleman (just my impression), Coleman was unwilling to do things Hue's way. Throw in broken hands and all the other dysfunction, and it didn't end well.

Imagine if we'd taken Dak instead of Kessler? Actually, it's probably better not to at this point.



The path it took to get to this regime was definitely painful. I'm content with Berry/Stefanski. Hopefully, they can grow together for awhile.


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I do not know how Schwartz will turn out. But I do know we have had other players who were proclaimed busts, worthless, hot garbage etc and yet turned out decent players. Taki taki comes to mind. The article on here talks about how he has developed into a solid linebacker for us in year four. By year two our resident experts were proclaiming him a bust . But now he is productive and an important part of our defense.

While true that Schwartz was a 3rd round pick, he came from a run dominant offense and did not have a great deal of experience. Our leadership knew he would take time to develop. Let’s give him a chance.

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No idea about other players but I've seen and read multiple times that Goff was the guy Hue wanted that draft and he was never an option. Two years of wentz in Philly and most thought we'd missed out on a FQB, but that went south pretty quickly.


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It's hard for me to judge him.

At this point, I know JB didn't target Cooper during the Atlanta game because of the coverage on him.

JB likes to overthrow his receivers on long routes to avoid a turn over

Maybe they need to cut Schwartz loose and let JB throw it long and have Schwartz run under it for the catch

That is if he can hold onto the ball

If Schwartz gets comfortable and starts holding onto the ball

That could be a nice thing to see

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Schwartz does have an attribute that cannot be taught nor learned...and Berry used a 3rd Rd pick on him...there's the answer to the OP.

I think the better question is why is Mond and Felton on the roster? Mond appears to be a play for '23 (giving a nod towards this being a throw-away year)...and Felton is the LAST RB and WR on the team (who did not even field punts when Rogers wasn't active).

We wouldn't miss any of the (3) guys if they were released...drop Mond and Feton and pickup Suh and Richardson...at least they might see the field in '22.

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Originally Posted by WSU Willie
Schwartz does have an attribute that cannot be taught nor learned...and Berry used a 3rd Rd pick on him...there's the answer to the OP.

I think the better question is why is Mond and Felton on the roster? Mond appears to be a play for '23 (giving a nod towards this being a throw-away year)...and Felton is the LAST RB and WR on the team (who did not even field punts when Rogers wasn't active).

We wouldn't miss any of the (3) guys if they were released...drop Mond and Feton and pickup Suh and Richardson...at least they might see the field in '22.

I agree on felton. The guy has been moved around and can't get anything right.

As for Mond, I think the Browns feel that Brissett is going to be too expensive to sign, if we can sign him at all. I think we keep him around with the eye on him to be the long term back-up to Watson. They do have similar abilities which would allow us to more or less keep running the O as we would for Watson.

I expect Brissett to move on to at least have a chance at a starting job and we sign Mond to a 3-4 year back-up deal.


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Brissett will always have a job as a bridge Qb as long as he wants it. He does the biggest thing you want in that type of QB, protects the ball. You will win some and lose some and most of the time it will be in the most unspectacular fashion, but you'll survive. JB will get another pretty decent contract from a QB hungry team...funny thing is, that might be Carolina next year. Besides, I think Dobbs has shown enough that he could be a great backup to groom behind Watson.. but on topic, I think they are giving Schwartz his 3 year tryout. Same with Phillips, I don't see either being here next year. But I would cut both of them if it meant bringing in a Suh, richardson, or martinez, or even some legit Wr help


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Originally Posted by WSU Willie
Schwartz does have an attribute that cannot be taught nor learned...and Berry used a 3rd Rd pick on him...there's the answer to the OP.

I think the better question is why is Mond and Felton on the roster? Mond appears to be a play for '23 (giving a nod towards this being a throw-away year)...and Felton is the LAST RB and WR on the team (who did not even field punts when Rogers wasn't active).

We wouldn't miss any of the (3) guys if they were released...drop Mond and Feton and pickup Suh and Richardson...at least they might see the field in '22.
Schwartz is a dime a dozen straight line fast WR
That every college program has on its roster.
So in that regard Schwartz offers nothing unique
He is definition of a draft bust
Berry could have drafted Amon st. Brown of the Lions
Instead of Schwartz

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Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper
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Schwartz does have an attribute that cannot be taught nor learned...and Berry used a 3rd Rd pick on him...there's the answer to the OP.

I think the better question is why is Mond and Felton on the roster? Mond appears to be a play for '23 (giving a nod towards this being a throw-away year)...and Felton is the LAST RB and WR on the team (who did not even field punts when Rogers wasn't active).

We wouldn't miss any of the (3) guys if they were released...drop Mond and Feton and pickup Suh and Richardson...at least they might see the field in '22.
Schwartz is a dime a dozen straight line fast WR
That every college program has on its roster.
So in that regard Schwartz offers nothing unique
He is definition of a draft bust
Berry could have drafted Amon st. Brown of the Lions
Instead of Schwartz

FWIW...I'm not disagreeing with you...I just answered the question in the thread title.

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Let’s bump this thread because we are still wondering. He’s wasting a roster spot


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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He's our late season secret weapon.


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j/c,

I think that when we finally activate Woods II to play, then we will start to see less and less of Schwartz.


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I heard that he's got pics of KS's wife and that he threatened to give them to Zach Wilson if he's cut. LOL


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I heard that he's got pics of KS's wife and that he threatened to give them to Zach Wilson if he's cut. LOL

Like I said, n00dz. Not sure who. Not sure how. But it's the only explanation.

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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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5 Games played, 1 reception, 3 Targets, 19 yards. Wow.


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5 Games played, 1 reception, 3 Targets, 19 yards. Wow.

11 receptions for 154 yds.... career.


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Wow. I had no idea it was that bad.


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Clearly Berry is letting his ego interfere with making sound football decisions.

OK...it may not be quite to that point, but it is close. Pretty soon we are going to run out of players as bad as him to release when we are forced in to some sort of roster move.

As far as I can tell the guy can't even help on special teams.

To play on a old Shania Twain song..."Ok, so the guy's fast...That don't impress me much"


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I could even see if he has a few big plays for TDs in his career and teams have to respect his speed, but he’s got nothing to his resume


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Schwartz showed nothing last year.depleted WR room toward the end
Of 2021 and he still couldn't get on the field with starter snap counts
He wasn't even used as a decoy on jet sweeps at the minimum.
He has made one play over 30 yds and that was blown coverage
By the Chiefs secondary
Then the Schwartz fan club said " oh give him a couple years, he
Needs time blah blah.." WRs now in the middle RDs being drafted
Are coming into the league and getting meaningful snaps.
The game has evolved so much with college offenses pass happy
WRs are prepared more than ever to play in the NFL.
That 3 year development window is no more.
Yet Berry drafts WRs who barely impact the offense.

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I think to be fair, there isn't a Schwantz fan club. I get people saying to give it some time. I may have said the same depending on where in the season we might have been.

I am all for giving him some time now, like another few reps to see if he gets open, but we are at or near the point where something needs to show.

About the only thing i really remember about the guy was a bit on him at Cedar Point being a roller coaster junkie...the news people were saying he could race a rollercoster...lol


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Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper
Schwartz showed nothing last year.depleted WR room toward the end
Of 2021 and he still couldn't get on the field with starter snap counts
He wasn't even used as a decoy on jet sweeps at the minimum.
He has made one play over 30 yds and that was blown coverage
By the Chiefs secondary
Then the Schwartz fan club said " oh give him a couple years, he
Needs time blah blah.." WRs now in the middle RDs being drafted
Are coming into the league and getting meaningful snaps.
The game has evolved so much with college offenses pass happy
WRs are prepared more than ever to play in the NFL.
That 3 year development window is no more.
Yet Berry drafts WRs who barely impact the offense.

Schwartz did have a (IIRC) knee injury, and then had a lingering concussion after that, last year .....

He only played a handful of games last year.

I agree that he has shown almost nothing here, so far.


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Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper
Schwartz showed nothing last year.depleted WR room toward the end
Of 2021 and he still couldn't get on the field with starter snap counts
He wasn't even used as a decoy on jet sweeps at the minimum.
He has made one play over 30 yds and that was blown coverage
By the Chiefs secondary
Then the Schwartz fan club said " oh give him a couple years, he
Needs time blah blah.." WRs now in the middle RDs being drafted
Are coming into the league and getting meaningful snaps.
The game has evolved so much with college offenses pass happy
WRs are prepared more than ever to play in the NFL.
That 3 year development window is no more.
Yet Berry drafts WRs who barely impact the offense.

Schwartz did have a (IIRC) knee injury, and then had a lingering concussion after that, last year .....

He only played a handful of games last year.

I agree that he has shown almost nothing here, so far.
He's not even a kickoff returner where you would his one and
Only strength would come into play.

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There's a Schwartz fan club? Sign me up!


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j/c...

From today's practice. See Schwartz at the :06 second mark. Poor guy, lol.


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He's got to conjure some of that Gerald McNeil, then all will be well. The only solution.

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