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Deshaun Watson can return to Browns facility next week; not allowed to practice until November
Adam Gretz, Yardbarker - 10h ago


Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson is still serving his 11-game suspension, but starting next week he will be eligible to return to the team's practice facility where he will be able to work out on his own.

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He is not eligible to start practicing and doing team drills with the teams until November and will be eligible to play in the Browns' 12th game of the season against his former team, the Houston Texans.


Watson was suspended 11 games by the NFL after he faced two dozen lawsuits from women that accused him of sexual misconduct during massages. He has settled 23 of those lawsuits.

He was initially given a six-game suspension, but the NFL appealed that ruling and pushed for a full-season suspension. Eventually, the NFL and NFLPA agreed to the 11-game ban and a $5 million fine.

Watson has not actually played in an NFL game since the 2020 season after sitting out the entirety of the 2021 season while he was still a member of the Texans. It remains to be seen what sort of game shape he will be in when he returns after nearly two full seasons away. He will be eligible to play in the Browns' final six games of the season, four of which will be on the road. Three of those games will be against AFC North opponents.

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Despite the lawsuits and the inevitable suspension that everybody knew was on the horizon, the Browns still gave up multiple first-round draft picks to acquire him and then signed him to a fully guaranteed $250 million contract extension.

The Browns have been using veteran Jacoby Brissett in Watson's absence, and he has played well in helping lead the team to a 2-2 start that has them tied for first place in the AFC North.

Brissett and the Browns host the Los Angeles Chargers on Sunday.

I feel so weird about the situation when compared to back in August. We have not lost our games because of QB play IMO. We are actually much improved in that area, but have lost games because of defensive execution, coaching, and being outplayed in the 4th quarter.

What I’m saying is this: will Watson make our defense any better? Maybe he will make up for some issues because of his Uber talent, but we also have to remember he hasn’t played in a long time

I somewhat agree. We are not 2-2 because of Brissett. We are 2-2 because of the coaching staff. I'm not sure Watson would have been able to overcome the really poor job of the staff so far this season.

I disagree. Our offensive coaching has been elite this season.

I would put more blame on Berry than Stefanski if we want to play the blame game. But, I don't want to go all negative.

i agree, and the big reason is that DW is gonna try to feed cooper regardless of who is covering him. JB is fine but he's too worried with making the big mistake. even if the coverage is tight, gotta get your best WR targets and give him a chance to make a play on the ball. DW will do that.

Brisset is playing WELL and is below Carson Wentz at 16th in QB ranks and we are 2-2. There is a direct correlation there and he has thrown two INT's in the 4th Quarter on late drives. We have to stop acting like these bad QB's aren't hurting us. He's thrown for barely 200 yards a game and has two game clinching INT's.

He is a lateral move from Baker, which is genius by the coaching staff but both bad in Q4, both are average on their best day.


Mid QB, mid results. That is not to excuse the collapse at the Jets, or Myles Garret hot rodding himself onto he bench when Clowney is injured, because more than anything that cost us the game at the Falcons.

I'm curious........where are you getting your stats from and what is the criteria?

Clocked the first link I saw just to gauge what I saw with my eyes.

This was the link I clicked
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...trevor-lawrence/gxpcmp2mojpzuquppwkjqwqq


Not sure if this one is more up to date but also 16 lol

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-week-4-2022-season-rankings


No idea what the criteria is I assumed it was based off QB ratings. Either way he's a mid QB getting mid results. Seems like a great guy, a bit of a nerd but seems like a great team mate.

Thanks.

Just fyi, Jacoby is 9th in QBR, which is pretty much the standard measuring stick and 6th overall in the PFF QB grades.

Jacoby Brissett has been doing a great job managing the game. Taking what the defense is giving, not turning the ball over, allowing the running game to dominate, and converting 3rd and shorts really well. The offense as a whole has been just fine. This team should be 3-1 right now. We have had secondary breakdowns which are very concerning because they have happened now 2 years in a row. The Panthers and Jets breakdowns looked just like early last year breakdowns vs the Chiefs and Chargers. Why does this keep happening? If not players then Joe Woods is only answer. Some names have changed in the secondary but the DC has not. I have also been disappointed in our special teams. The Jets recovered easily and the Steelers should have recovered a week later. What is being done to fix that?

Only other call I really disagreed with and would still disagree even if they would have converted was the 4th an goal play on Sunday. They were 3rd and 1 and lost 2 yards. If they gained a half yard I would say go for it and let Brissett sneak to the first. Losing 2 yards should have thrown up red flags and said kick the FG. I think it is important to get a lead every chance you get. Now if the game was 17-7 Browns late in the 3rd and they decided 3 points does not put the game away but a TD does. The defense has been solid and if we don't convert it puts an offense that has only scored 7 in almost 3 quarters go length of the field then fine go for it. That was not the case. They passed on getting the lead and then shortly after trailed 10-0.

JB has played well the first three games. However I think he had a hand in helping lose the last game. He msde mustske after mistake misding wide open receivers. Starting with the first series. He looked at a wide open Chubb around the five yard line then turned and threw to a covered wr in the end zone. He doesn't look like he is able to get through his progressions fast enough.

This is my thought too. He’s done a nice job for us, but he wasn’t great in big spots last game. He wasn’t the reason we lost, but also a reason we lost.

Oh, he's definitely played well for us. In fact, he's played well above his head when you look at what his historic production is. Hopefully, the scheme and players around him can keep him playing at that higher level more often than not and mitigate how often he regresses to his mean.

6th on PFF and throwing for like 200 yards a game is wild.

Eyes suggest he is a bottom half QB (16-32) playing above his level slightly above mid. Which is great, but the running game and playcalling have made it VERY easy.

Brissett has exceeded my expectations - based on his first 3 games. I hope he bounces back to closer to that form than his game 4 showing.

Watson should be in a different stratosphere no matter how PFF have graded JB so far. And to those referencing the 'eye test' instead of relying on PFF as a barometer, pretty sure I read a fellow Dog on these boards opining about NOT using just one source to grade out a player. I agree that while JB has overall been a pleasant surprise, I disagree he is in the top 6 in terms of real performance and value to the team. While I am not going to feel comfortable with Watson as the face and QB of the franchise when he starts ... I am interested to see how dynamic the offense with him back running things.

I wasn't trying to argue w/you. I was just providing information. However, are you also discounting the importance of QBR?

It seems to me that multiple sources should be used to evaluate a player. His tape, his advanced stats, PFF, the eye test. Not sure if an article from one reporter is the best indicator.

its only 3 games in, but being 6th shouldn't be surprising. he's doing exactly what Baker was doing for most of the 2020 season, and like Purp said, that year he was balling. but its ALSO true that JB is playing with the same level of talent that Baker had that year as well.

its lets be clear: it's real performance. these games matter.

can he sustain it for 11 games? we will see. but you know what we're not talking about in a QB thread?

batted balls. leading the league in turnovers. sloppy footwork.

yea, JB is a backup, but he is a mechanically sound QB. you know what you have and want you don't, and you can build an amazing game plan with a QB who stays consistent. Stefanski through 3 games has the browns rated as the best offense in the league with a QB who is just competent.

I think if JB plays at the same or close to the level he played at for games 1-3 then there are at least 6 possible 10 teams that would want him as starter over who they have now. And that's include the Panthers. If that's who he really is and plays to that level, I don't know that I'd call him a back up. I hope it continues.

I do know this much, if he is playing top-5-ball when DW is back, they better not switch, I might lose my mind. At that point, he would have something DW doesn't; chemistry, nuance, and the love of ALL of the fans.

I doubt that will be a problem, he did the same thing in Indy. Started out strong, then faded off as the season continued.

You might as well understand that you are going to lose your mind.

I am not sure that is possible since you seem to have lost it long ago.

On a serious note, Watson is going to play.

They aren't playing DW an ungodly amount of money to sit behind a backup. Haslam would make himself look like the most ignorant owner in the league and we all know he isn't going to allow that to happen.

Also missing are all the excuses of how bad the OL sucked, how guys are running the wrong routes, how coaching is holding the qb back, etc, etc, etc. So, that's been refreshing.

Liar.

No one said the OL "sucked"...no one said guyS were running their own routes - just one guy who was a cancer...who ever said the coaching was holding back the QB?

Nothing on this board in the last 10 years has been more refreshing than when you took a break from trolling it.

The starters on the OL are great. I'd venture to guess when you get to third stringers the talent would fall off. Hopefully we won't have to see that, again.

We still have all of our starters AND Hubbard. A *slight* difference from this time last year. PFFF can suck it... the OT's blew chunks last year.


Because that one guy isn't in the league anymore.


Yet?

Outside the football I want to see a man who’s has used his suspension to grow on a personal level.

He should be rusty and the pressure on him will probably be immense. He can’t afford to to do or say anything controversial in his comeback season. The media will just wait for him to slip and say something controversial. A decent mentor would tell him to talk as little as possible outside football related things. I think it’s fair to expect him to need at least 3-4 games to come into rhythm, probably the rest of the season. I’m not worried about his physical status but I have concerns about his commitment and mental status. Nobody walks thru such media storm without being affected and his previous QB stint down in Houston wasn’t exactly a walk in the park.

Let’s hope for us supporters, the city of Cleveland and the Browns that everything works out well. Football is so much more fun then talking bout this [censored].

LMAO

No one was ever running the wrong route. One of the most perpetuated fabrications.of all time on here.

Sorry my friend but I don’t know what LMAO means? My gut feeling says it’s something bad but maybe you can help me?

LMAO means "Laughing My Ass Off."

Thanks.
English is my second language so maybe I unintentionally wrote something that was funny. Another “snowflake”* moment in my DawgTalkers career.

* Floquinho means little snowflake in Brazilian Portuguese and it’s the name our youngest daughter gave our “gato” (cat) when the vet cut his balls.

What you actually said wasn't funny. It was accurate and of good sentiment.

The LMAO comment would be directed at the naivety of thinking that watson might actually use his suspension to grow on a personal level

D A W G in dawgtalkers is an acronym for

D. Defense
A. Always
W. Wins
G. Games
the game is always won by the defense. (Not a misspelling of dog.)

When I first saw the 49ers and later the Bronco’s I was thinking to myself what’s the right approach to spend our salary cap? Do the Browns has a history of great defense?

No, and I go back a good way. We have had our share of good defenses, but none would be what I would call great. Some years it could be called borderline pansy.

Look around the league. The highest paid players are QBs. The best teams [for the most part] have the best qbs. We had a terrible qb. Now we have a top-tier one in the wings.

JMHO, but you are assuming the Browns have gotten the same QB from 2-years ago. That may or may not be true, but we'll see. The absolute worst thing that could happen, since the Browns foolishly guaranteed the entire deal, would be a significant injury or injuries.

Before you go off the rails on me with your name calling and general spitefulness, I'm just wondering how those teams with the same outlook as you are feeling about now - like Denver with Wilson (which many campaigned for the Browns to sign) or Ryan in Indianapolis or Prescott in Dallas who's missed 15 of his last 38 games (40%). None of these guys are currently living up to their top tier expectations based on their super high pay. Some of us will remain cautiously optimistic until we see how Watson actually performs on the field. Watson wouldn't be the first top tier QB to switch teams for the big bucks and not give the same results. For the sake of the loyal Browns Fans, I hope he brings his "A" game, but you never know.