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Facts remain: Hunter Biden got a job he had no business getting. He had no knowledge of that business. He brought others to meet "the big guy", meanwhile, he's a druggie. And all you can say is "trump supporter".

Shed's a lot of light on you.

How can you support a party that has a leader who supports a racist, loving Hitler and steals top secret and secret documents.. Explain that

Who cares..Tell me about Trump stealing docs, inciting an insurrection...

A lot of people get jobs they are not qualified for and have no business getting. Nothing illegal or immoral about seizing the opportunityh



1st, is this a fact? It could be. I have not seen that this actually happened.
If you did please share because I would love to read it - said in earnest not to be snarky.

2nd, if we assume this did happen, is that illegal?

3rd, how does any of this mean anything about President Biden?
I have not heard even a suggestion that President Biden was influenced at all in any decision. Not even what socks he wore let alone anything of national importance.

Please stop posting common sense, reason, and fact. lil heads explode into ugliness here.

If you haven't heard about it, it's because of 1 of 2 things, or maybe both. 1. the msm hid it for a couple of years, and/or 2. You chose to not read the little that was out there.

"Biden business partner Tony Bobulinski, who was brought in to structure the deal, publicly identified “the Big Guy” as Joe Biden when the emails came to light in the run up to the 2020 election."

Link: https://news.yahoo.com/hunter-biden-grand-jury-witness-140305395.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

https://nypost.com/2022/04/04/hunte...-deal-with-chinese-firm-and-the-big-guy/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ss-asked-about-big-guy-report/ar-AAVRh5s

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12952604/source-claims-joe-biden-is-big-guy-in-hunter-emails-leak/

https://wearechange.org/10-for-the-...r-bidens-china-ukraine-emails-are-legit/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ate-referred-Big-Guy-SECOND-message.html

All accusations with no real evidence of any crimes committed…then we have this….


https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/06/politics/trump-organization-fraud-trial-verdict/index.html

A Manhattan jury has found two Trump Organization companies guilty on multiple charges of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records connected to a 15-year scheme to defraud tax authorities by failing to report and pay taxes on compensation for top executives.

14 years in prison is the going rate on this crime. We shall see.

1st, I don't listen to MSNBC
2nd, those are all essentially the same article published in different places - a single story

3rd, my buddies and I are going to rob a bank. we are going to hold 10 for Arch.
You are now complicit in our crime

Figures you'd say that.

So the FBI and Intelligence Community started having weekly meetings with Twitter for a full year before the election (the entire time they had the laptop).

And during that entire year they warned of "hack and leak operations" leading up to the election that "may involve Hunter Biden".

And during that entire year, the original, 100% factual, story by the NY Post was sequestered in nearly every social media outlet and not even allowed to be shared in private messages!


More conspiracy theory, Pit??

I'm sure happy people weren't foolish enough to elect this guy president.

Arch, these are, as yet, unproven.. But, if he's found to have committed crimes, presidents son or not, he's got to face the music.

I don't think arch is jumping to any conclusions no matter how much it may sound like it. He's all for letting the legal process play out first.

I do find it odd that the director of the FBI was appointed by Trump and people seem to indicate that Joe Biden had something to do with this.

Ahhhh...

Six degrees of Donald Trump.

Trump buried the Hunter Biden story so Joe could beat him in the election.

I'm about 98% sure we could have a video (since we have email evidence with proof Russian was a hoax) showing how the FBI/DOH/Twitter were the ones colluding together and you try to distract the conversation to somehow include Trump in it.

The worst part of all of this is the report about Hunter was shut down, called russian mis information, etc. Until now, when the story - the original story, is proving to have teeth.

Drug addict son of a v.p, then later president, get's a job from a foreign country in a field he knows nothing about and makes millions doing it. But, that's not news according to the liberal media.

Especially the part about the "Big Guy".

The FBI needs a total makeover. It is the enforcement wing of the democratic party much like the media is the propaganda wing.

How does this happen? This is the part I can't wrap my mind around. What kind of coordinated effort does it take to put the FBI, pretty much all of big tech and the entire media not named Fox in your back pocket??

Easy... CNN is basically refusing to cover anything regarding the Twitter files so... 50% won't believe it is true.

https://www.cnn.com/search?q=Twitte...p;sort=newest&types=all&section=

Trump isn't that smart. It always takes less than six degrees. So let me get your story straight. Are you saying that Trump appointed Christopher Wray as the FBI director and he was somehow brainwashed into helping Joe Biden cover up the story on Hunter Biden?

And 50% will believe it's true because they read it on Twitter and the media they choose to follow tries to blow up a story from Twitter.

'More insinuation than evidence': Columnist tears apart Elon Musk's 'Twitter Files'

For the past few weeks, tech billionaire Elon Musk has been partnering up with willing reporters to disseminate what he calls the "Twitter Files" — a series of emails and memoranda that purports to reveal how Twitter partnered with federal law enforcement to silence Republicans and various conservative causes on the platform. One of the biggest sore spots has been how a New York Post story on Hunter Biden's laptop was suppressed as "disinformation" in 2020 — which turned out to be in error.

That being said, wrote columnist Philip Bump from The Washington Post, the documents revealed in the "Twitter Files" don't actually show nefarious intent of any sort.

Rather, they show a good-faith reaction to Russian disinformation and strategically timed leaks from hacked material against Hillary Clinton in 2016, interfering with the election and leading to years of criminal investigations ,and criticism of the insufficient content moderation policies of social media platforms.

"The presidential election had been tainted — perhaps only slightly, but tainted nonetheless — by a hostile foreign actor. It worked because it effectively leveraged American information-sharing systems, including social media sites. As a result, social media companies began implementing more tools aimed at uprooting or disrupting misinformation," wrote Bump. "This context is critical for understanding what happened in 2020. By then, companies like Twitter had (imperfect) systems in place aimed at shutting down false claims or abusive behavior. They and federal law enforcement were on the lookout for efforts by Russia or other foreign powers to interfere with the presidential race once again."

"That never manifested, at least not in 2020. Instead, two years later, hostile actors pored over a cache of emails to create a damaging narrative more tangentially linked to politics," wrote Bump. "[Musk] wants to reinforce the sense on the right that government actors in the 'Deep State' conspire with the American left to hold power. What’s been presented to date doesn’t show what is alleged by Musk and the writers tasked with picking cherries from Twitter’s email archives. What the actual evidence shows, instead, is an often ad hoc response to what happened in 2016, a response that is at times kludgey or dubious but not one that obviously shows a federal institution trying to reshape an election outcome."

"Information about Twitter’s decision to block sharing of the Post story — a decision quickly reversed — has been published in caches by writers working with Musk," wrote Bump. However, with regard to the idea this was a malicious move to censor conservatives, "he doesn’t have evidence to that effect. The Post’s story is headlined, 'FBI pressured Twitter, sent trove of docs hours before Post broke Hunter laptop story,' capturing the intended narrative. What Shellenberger shows, though, is that the FBI sent documents to Twitter the evening before the first story about the laptop was published — but not what those documents said or even what they dealt with. It’s all insinuation: Hunter Biden’s team had learned about the soon-to-be-released story (as evidenced by an email sent to the repair-shop owner) and, a few hours later, the FBI sent something to Twitter. That’s it."

"The worry isn’t that Musk might nonetheless believe the story he’s presenting the world," concluded Bump. "It’s that so many other people, unable to know what’s being withheld or unable to take the time to understand the fuller context, are eager to believe it too."

https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-twitter-files/

Among many things wrong with this article, it incorrectly and perhaps intentionally focuses on Twitter as the abused, as opposed to the government's intentions as the larger issue here. I could possibly believe an argument that some Twitter employees were naive, and easily coerced due to political leanings (I doubt certain heads were, but whatever) to do something the government said was important, thus not necessarily being nefarious. That's COMPLETELY different from the actions of federal agencies and their nefarious intentions.....the main issue in this whole debacle.

The article from Raw Story (first I've heard of this outlet) is a deflection. A terrible one at that.

Not at all. That's just your feeble attempt at erecting goalposts where none exist. It's one thing to move them, but, pheww... you're getting pretty creative here. You divert as well as the Dem party -- you should see if they need any new recruits!

Go on and get your LWL if you think I'm going to argue about who appointed the director of the FBI.

There is no argument to be made. The theory you propose is that somehow a Trump appointed head of the FBI worked with the Biden administration to silence Republicans and was involved in some mythical conspiracy to cover up the Hunter Biden story. Attacking me won't change that.

It's actually a story that originated on Washington Post. It actually states that along with the author in the story I posted. But the Washington Post is a pay site. Using this source as a legal workaround to gain the story without being forced to pay for the content is what I did.

And it's only a deflection for those than wish to see it as such. We all know the "Twitter files" are only showing what they want you to see. We all know there are many documents that are not being revealed that may show the actual context of what we are being shown. But let's just ignore all of that and label it as a deflection.

I thought you called out conspiracy theories, not manufactured them!

If there were 45 million files and documents. "Well, we know there has to be more; so we're not getting the whole story".

If we have the murder weapon, DNA evidence, witnesses and fingerprints; Pit would say he needs to review the dental records. lmao

The saddest part is, it was whitewashed by the msm for too long. But now, even the msm is saying "hey, looks like there's something here" Years later.

Common sense, that's why. Obviously, you wouldn't get it.

The world knows when you want something effective you get Dems, if you want loud and distracting, you get GOPers.

Well that sums it all up in one incoherent splurge of nothingness.

Most of his posts are nothingness.

They like to post memes a lot... it's the new liberal news.

We post memes to communicate with people who act like memes.