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Probably. And I'm not sure that the optics aren't a portion of it.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Biden should ban anyone from China entering into The United States.
Wouldn't that be xenophobic? I mean, it was a few years ago, right?

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So you're trying to compare China now with a huge outbreak to lumping in a bunch of Muslim nations into one when the Covid risk wasn't as bad in those nations as many other countries that weren't banned? I expect no less.


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That's not at all what I was doing. Thanks for playing.

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Yes, that's exactly what trump was accused of so you brought it up. You even said that was a few years ago. Don't try to backtrack now. It's out there for everyone to see.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Yes, that's exactly what trump was accused of so you brought it up. You even said that was a few years ago. Don't try to backtrack now. It's out there for everyone to see.

Trump banned travel from China and he was called a xenophobe. But your selective blind devotion won't let you remember that.

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Not by me on that count. Here's the funny part in all of this. Who is it you think I'm "devoted" to? Biden isn't banning people from China as I would like him to. I haven't seen any democrat come out and say he should. So it would seem I'm disagreeing with what they are proposing. But then had you have been paying attention you would know that. NEXT!


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j/c...

Hopefully effects are fairly mild and deaths stay at a minimum. Meanwhile, this year's flu strain is hell-on-wheels. I spent two days in bed and had four family members at urgent care in the span of a week. Both bouts with Covid were a walk-in-the-park by comparison.

WHO sounds the alarm: New COVID variant is most transmissible yet
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Originally Posted by FrankZ
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Yes, that's exactly what trump was accused of so you brought it up. You even said that was a few years ago. Don't try to backtrack now. It's out there for everyone to see.

Trump banned travel from China and he was called a xenophobe. But your selective blind devotion won't let you remember that.

Jump to conclusions much? Biden said he would set some guidelines for folks coming from China. He did not say he'd ban them altogether.

To be fair, when Trump did that, Covid was running rampant. This is a different time and circumstances.


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He was called a xenophobe do to his including so many Muslim and Latino nations in his travel bans that didn't have any higher Covid rates then most countries. Were there a select few who included China in that? Possibly. But that isn't what the uproar was about at the time. He did take a lot of guff for calling it "The China Virus" and if anything was accused of xenophobia on that count but those are two different things. Of course even the conservative media is trying to rewrite this history so it shouldn't surprise anyone it turned up on Dawgtalkers.


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True, and that is something that is missing from Franks post. He left that out.


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That travel ban was all just Trump's racist BS manifesting in the ugliest ways. The best part of Trump ran down his momma's leg when the afterbirth was removed.

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Well, that's graphic! Thanks for painting such an eloquent picture.

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The ban applies to “foreign nationals, other than immediate family of U.S. citizens and permanent residents, who have traveled in China within the last 14 days,” Azar said. It will take effect at 5 p.m. Sunday Eastern Time.

Yep, seems pretty racist to me. Isn't is misogynistic as well? I mean, some of those foreign nationals may be chicks!

We need to learn to respond to pandemics in a more sympathetic way...


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I know you aren't trying to say Trump is not racist because that would be absurd. He's a racist.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
I know you aren't trying to say Trump is not racist because that would be absurd. He's a racist.

Some people believe he's not a racist because he says he isn't. All evidence to the contrary however..


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He’s a racist until he denounces white supremacy groups. You know, the base of his cult.


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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/06/omi...ised-cdc-data-shows-slower-increase.html

Weekly Covid cases have increased by about 16% to 470,699 over the past week, according to CDC data. Average daily hospital admissions have increased 16% to more than 6,500 over the past week, according to the data. Weekly deaths have also increased 8% over the week prior to more than 2,700.



Daily... that's about 67,000 cases.

When are the indoor mask requirements returning?


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Originally Posted by SuperBrown
Thousands are dying and are permanentley damaged from the jab. Do you libs actually believe the regime in power cares about you?

They want you dead or at the very least at their mercy.

On it's face, I think you are dead wrong... Give me your proof..


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Originally Posted by superbowldogg
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/06/omi...ised-cdc-data-shows-slower-increase.html

Weekly Covid cases have increased by about 16% to 470,699 over the past week, according to CDC data. Average daily hospital admissions have increased 16% to more than 6,500 over the past week, according to the data. Weekly deaths have also increased 8% over the week prior to more than 2,700.



Daily... that's about 67,000 cases.

When are the indoor mask requirements returning?

If you know these numbers are true. You’re an idiot if you’re not fully vaccinated and not wearing a mask indoors. Die! I’m tired of people spreading BS to fit an agenda of cutting government spending by taking away free vaccines that help prevent more spread. Because that’s what it’s leading to.


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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/06/omi...ised-cdc-data-shows-slower-increase.html

Weekly Covid cases have increased by about 16% to 470,699 over the past week, according to CDC data. Average daily hospital admissions have increased 16% to more than 6,500 over the past week, according to the data. Weekly deaths have also increased 8% over the week prior to more than 2,700.



Daily... that's about 67,000 cases.

When are the indoor mask requirements returning?

If you know these numbers are true. You’re an idiot if you’re not fully vaccinated and not wearing a mask indoors. Die! I’m tired of people spreading BS to fit an agenda of cutting government spending by taking away free vaccines that help prevent more spread. Because that’s what it’s leading to.

You want people to die? You got your fifth booster yet??


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My wife lost an uncle to Covid and her brother just went into the hospital yesterday for Covid. He isn't doing well. Both anti vaxxers. Over 1.1 million Americans have died from Covid. Your risk of hospitalization or death are decreased by getting vaccinated.

My wife said she couldn't believe that the death of their uncle didn't teach her brother anything. But then some people never learn.


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Sorry to hear that, Pit.

I, however, don't want him to die. Nor do I think wishing death on people is, by any stretch, a very good method of virtue signaling. To each his own, I guess.


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I missed the intent of your post. I agree with you. While I do understand the frustration I do not find that an excuse for telling anyone to die.


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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/06/omi...ised-cdc-data-shows-slower-increase.html

Weekly Covid cases have increased by about 16% to 470,699 over the past week, according to CDC data. Average daily hospital admissions have increased 16% to more than 6,500 over the past week, according to the data. Weekly deaths have also increased 8% over the week prior to more than 2,700.



Daily... that's about 67,000 cases.

When are the indoor mask requirements returning?

If you know these numbers are true. You’re an idiot if you’re not fully vaccinated and not wearing a mask indoors. Die! I’m tired of people spreading BS to fit an agenda of cutting government spending by taking away free vaccines that help prevent more spread. Because that’s what it’s leading to.

I asked a legitimate question because the numbers are going up and... those are the actual numbers.

Wtf... someone doesnt agree with all of your opinons and you want them to die?

What's next concentration camps and gas chambers?

You are something else.


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Originally Posted by superbowldogg
Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/06/omi...ised-cdc-data-shows-slower-increase.html

Weekly Covid cases have increased by about 16% to 470,699 over the past week, according to CDC data. Average daily hospital admissions have increased 16% to more than 6,500 over the past week, according to the data. Weekly deaths have also increased 8% over the week prior to more than 2,700.



Daily... that's about 67,000 cases.

When are the indoor mask requirements returning?

If you know these numbers are true. You’re an idiot if you’re not fully vaccinated and not wearing a mask indoors. Die! I’m tired of people spreading BS to fit an agenda of cutting government spending by taking away free vaccines that help prevent more spread. Because that’s what it’s leading to.

I asked a legitimate question because the numbers are going up and... those are the actual numbers.

Wtf... someone doesnt agree with all of your opinons and you want them to die?

What's next concentration camps and gas chambers?

You are something else.


And you’re a joke. And everyone that isn’t fully vaccinated, going around unmasked indoors are idiots. Why do we need a mask requirement when we’re in the mist of natural selection killing those idiot s off? Mmmm?


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Sorry to hear that, Pit.

I, however, don't want him to die. Nor do I think wishing death on people is, by any stretch, a very good method of virtue signaling. To each his own, I guess.

I’m sorry to hear that as well. You do reap what you sow. Not getting vaccinated while going around unmasked indoors. Then contracting and spreading Covid to others…..your virtue signaling isn’t any better bro.


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Sorry to hear that, Pit.

I, however, don't want him to die. Nor do I think wishing death on people is, by any stretch, a very good method of virtue signaling. To each his own, I guess.

I’m sorry to hear that as well. You do reap what you sow. Not getting vaccinated while going around unmasked indoors. Then contracting and spreading Covid to others…..your virtue signaling isn’t any better bro.

I know you've been hiding under a rock with your fingers in your ears for two years, but vaccination has nothing to do with spreading covid.

You should stop, you sound... well, we'll just say "uneducated".


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Where is Dewine with the mask mandate?


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Sorry to hear that, Pit.

I, however, don't want him to die. Nor do I think wishing death on people is, by any stretch, a very good method of virtue signaling. To each his own, I guess.

I’m sorry to hear that as well. You do reap what you sow. Not getting vaccinated while going around unmasked indoors. Then contracting and spreading Covid to others…..your virtue signaling isn’t any better bro.

I know you've been hiding under a rock with your fingers in your ears for two years, but vaccination has nothing to do with spreading covid.

You should stop, you sound... well, we'll just say "uneducated".

The vaccine also seems to make you less likely to contract covid, in my experience. I've been exposed multiple times now, and unless I had it right before they knew what it was here, then so far, I haven't had it. But I get what you are saying, I just don't like the downplaying of a very important vaccine over cheap political stunts.

This divide over how to handle living with covid all stems from Trump not being man enough to admit his mistakes. Millions worldwide died, but this is definitely just an attack on American personal freedoms and our inalienable right to be complete and total dumbasses. And all this pseudoscience from the right on safety and efficacy creating a sea of misinformation doesn't help either. But I will say this much, and neither side gets to take a victory lap for being 100% vaccinated or having their fringe anti-covid-vaccine elements under control.

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I doubt we see any mask mandates. At this point, those that are vaccinated should be relatively OK barring existing health conditions or a very rare occurrence. Covid is going to be here for a long time, and they aren't going to do much about it unless it grows in epic proportions.


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Pretty sure anybody that is unvaccinated and unmasked indoors these days are less educated. And I’m educated enough to know we don’t need a mask mandate to fix stupid.


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Originally Posted by FloridaFan
I doubt we see any mask mandates. At this point, those that are vaccinated should be relatively OK barring existing health conditions or a very rare occurrence. Covid is going to be here for a long time, and they aren't going to do much about it unless it grows in epic proportions.

We damn sure won't see them in Florida, and DeWine was a little in the hot seat here over them too, so he won't rush to do it either.


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Pretty sure anybody that is unvaccinated and unmasked indoors these days are less educated. And I’m educated enough to know we don’t need a mask mandate to fix stupid.

Cool, then call me stupid. I've had Covid twice. Once before the vax was available, once after. The second time was omicron... which gave no #$% whether you were vaccinated or not. Both cases were mild.

Please explain why I would now choose to be vaccinated.


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Pretty sure anybody that is unvaccinated and unmasked indoors these days are less educated. And I’m educated enough to know we don’t need a mask mandate to fix stupid.

Cool, then call me stupid. I've had Covid twice. Once before the vax was available, once after. The second time was omicron... which gave no #$% whether you were vaccinated or not. Both cases were mild.

Please explain why I would now choose to be vaccinated.

I wouldn’t call you stupid or an idiot unless you’re going around unmasked indoors. You know not being vaccinated and all. Maybe if you get vaccinated you won’t get it a third time with a new variant and spread it around to love ones and others, again.


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Pretty sure anybody that is unvaccinated and unmasked indoors these days are less educated. And I’m educated enough to know we don’t need a mask mandate to fix stupid.

Cool, then call me stupid. I've had Covid twice. Once before the vax was available, once after. The second time was omicron... which gave no #$% whether you were vaccinated or not. Both cases were mild.

Please explain why I would now choose to be vaccinated.

I wouldn’t call you stupid or an idiot unless you’re going around unmasked indoors. You know not being vaccinated and all. Maybe if you get vaccinated you won’t get it a third time with a new variant and spread it around to love ones and others, again.

Being vaxxed does not stop you from spreading covid. That's been the "science" for a couple years now.

Which part of that, the most simplistic of statements, do you not understand??

And again, have you had your fifth sixth seventh eighth booster?? The boosters wane after 90 days... that's been the science for years now. Anybody taking some holier-than-thou position without standing in line for a booster every 90 days is a fraud.


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Relax bro. geez. I don’t care if people get vaccinated or not. I consider this disease the science of natural selection taking out the weak and weak minded. BTW not wearing a mask indoors helps the spread of COVID especially if that person has COVID, doesn’t know it, or is not vaccinated to help prevent them from contracting it.


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Relax bro. geez. I don’t care if people get vaccinated or not. I consider this disease the science of natural selection taking out the weak and weak minded. BTW not wearing a mask indoors helps the spread of COVID especially if that person has COVID, doesn’t know it, and is not vaccinated to help prevent them from contracting it.

Especially if they're wearing brown shoes on a Tuesday.


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No wonder you’ve gotten it twice. Can you even be sure you didn’t spread it to someone that died? Bet you never even gave it a thought have you?


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