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Your wish is my command.

Your reasoning is horse manure... Geez man... Just stop

lol That is literally what happened.

watched the video

He's far from the only one who thinks that. I would guestimate that 6-7 out of 10 progressives, a few less centrist Dems, and more of the to-the-left-of-progressive leftists feel that way.

6-7 out of 10 progressives need meds then.

A psychiatric eval would probably be a good idea as well.

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Trump openly catered to them. And are you actually saying you could afford to lose the votes of these far right extremists and still win elections? Especially the presidency? Look at MTG, Boebert and others that are even elected officials and tell me that not only are they catered to, but openly accepted. I won't go as far as some by calling them Nazis, but there's certainly a large contingent of very dangerous extremists which the GOP depends on to win elections.

What would give you any indication that I was saying, thinking, inferring anything like that?

I'll answer anyway. Yes.

The number is inflated by social media and the drive by propaganda hosts. It's probably 3-5 percent of the vote.

So, you think those people would vote for Biden over a moderate republican? That's one hell of a stretch.

But you need that stretch to fit the narrative of the right embracing the extremists. Two sentences later, we're all extremists. I've been called a Nazi here 50 times, for endorsing any conservative talking point, so lets not act like this isn't true.

It's a loose, low IQ method of connecting all GOPers (read some posts above, or in any thread, if you're having difficulty here) with the extreme right, and painting us all as the enemy. All as part of some large fraternity and membership that doesn't really exist. And you all take the bait.

It's like paint by number, but with crayons and blindfolds.

No, I think those people would often times not vote at all. I don't say or lump all of you in as the enemy. Many times I have pointed out the difference between trumpians and Republicans. And yes there are a number of posters that lump you all in together. I understand that. But you may wish to look at how that's a two ways street on here. You know, the socialist and communist mantra for everyone who does not support the republican platform.

In the 2016 presidential election first time voters were up 15%. A 3% increase of first time voters than the 2012 election. After four years of trump actually being president there was a record number of voters. But I would like you to consider a coupe of things.

First, I'd like for you to consider the election results in the 2020 presidential election. There were almost five million votes for president in Georgia in the 2020 election. That election was decided by less than 12,000 votes. That's a very small percentage that can determine an election.

Secondly, it's not just the groups we hear about like the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers that buy into what I would consider extremists. The majority of Republicans still believe the 2020 elections were stolen. They don't believe Biden is the legitimate president. They didn't have to storm the capital to share those views. I went to a small rural school. A very popular "joke?" was to call MLK Day, James Earl Ray Day. I heard that same thing said on construction sites even decades later. You can try to minimize that any way you see fit. But your 3-5% figure is very low. And yes, I believe when a candidate espouses things those people want to hear it helps motivate them to vote.

In closing I would also like to add that presidential elections are often decided by 3-5% of the vote or even less. So your claim of 3%-5% may not mean what you think it means.

BTW- a question mark creates a question and not an accusation.

May I please have a reference for your thinking? or are you just being snarky

Not snarky at all. If all these progressives think GOPers are Nazi scum, they need to seek help.

09:36:51Z is Zulu time, which translates to 1:36am Local California Time ,and 2:36am if they were in PDT at the time.

I go by actions,,, based on actions of many GOPers, they are acting a lot like Nazis that followed Hitler... Not something they should be proud of.

Not all GOPers to be sure, but for some reason, those that are not following that thinking, seem to sit quietly and watch others ruin America in the name of Saving America. Those that stand up seem to get threatened by freaking lunitics that seemingly are led by the Trump faction of the party.

Funny thing about that, you'd think that after the last two elections (2020 and 2022) you'd think it was evident that the majority of Americans don't like them doing that. Folks like Matt Gaitz or Marjorie Taylor Green or Boebart or Gosar or DeSantis or even Lindsay Graham who normally I wouldn't say that about but again, recent actions on his part make me think he's as bad.

For me, if you are NOT a Nazi kinda person, but you let Nazi types rule, then you are part of the problem.. Basically the reason I don't feel I can ever trust a republican ever again. Sad really because for 30 + years, I was a registered republican..I voted for mostly republican candidates. I can't do that anymore. Can't trust them.

Yet 60% of all Americans had to deal with election deniers as candidates in the last elections. Some winning some losing. I’d wager it’s closer to 30% than 3-5% of the vote.

Watch others ruin America? I'm not sure what you mean be that?

Thanks for this response, but it seems like there is much bigger problem ruining America. Ruining America by widening the divide... this post is an example of the results.

There seems to always be some loose slight-of-hand for lumping everyone together as one evil "force". In this example -- those doing something 'bad', those doing nothing to stop it.

So, should I find a Proud Boys rally and drive my car through it? What exactly do you want me to do?

Why not you? If something is ruining your country, why just cross your arms and blame one side?


Still interested in how America is being ruined by GOPers.

You enjoy watching nearly 30% of your Grand Ole Party doing this, admit it.

Thank you! didn't catch that the video was in Zulu time!

j/c...

The video is repulsive. Much worse than that (believe it or not) is the handling by the 911 dispatch. I don't know how linguistically inventive one should have to be to express that there's something not right. Let alone the husband of the speaker of the house. Geez... aren't these people trained in ways to affirm danger without asking the caller to spell it out word for word? There's someone in the house... "he says he knows me, I don't know who he is" should be more than enough.

If you don't know what I mean, you may be part of the problem.

You wanna talk dividing America. Look no further than guys like Newt Gingrich. He was an AWFUL speaker. Even his own contemporaries (in hindsight of course) think he was the starter of what we see now.

Then you throw in the most recent past admin and it seems like conspiracy BS and lies and misleading statements became the norm. They still are.

Watched Matt Gaetz yesterday being interviewed by Ari Melber, yikes, what a liar and chief Mis Leader.


As for you driving a car though a Proud Boys Rally, that's your choice but I wouldn't recommend it. And I never said otherwise. Not sure where you decided I did.

As for me lumping everyone together, I DIDN'T DO THAT... you did. I made it clear who I thought was the problem.. Even named some of them.

The mere fact that you defend the actions of these folks speaks volumes about where you come down on the subject...

I lumped people together?

I defended who?

You've used "those People" a number of times

You've defended those on the right for some of the weirdest stuff...

Actually, OCD lumped them together. He said "6-7 out of 10 progressives" consider GOPers "Nazi scum". Remember? It's just a few posts up. Sounds like a good old fashioned bait-n-switch.


You picked out some GOPs you don't like, none of which I've ever mentioned, endorsed or "defended"; and said I defended them. NOW, you say "defended those on the right for some of the weirdest stuff".

Sounds oddly vague, almost like you're just talking out your butt. Got any receipts for that?

Don't bother. He's never seen the left side of anything he didn't support....then he accuses others of being right wing nuts or Trumpians or whatnot. Hell, I called Trump a lying cheating bastage or something to that effect and he accused me of defending him. I've yet to see him call out anyone on the left....and if somebody else does he breaks out into a Whatabout tune.
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You do it all the time, except replace 'right' with 'left'.

Guilty as Charged and for damn good reason. I can't and won't support a bunch of Nazis that reside within the republican party.

As far as who I think is like a Nazi, If the shoe fits, wear it.