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or they are just waiting to hear what he is actually charged with first.

I get the story angle, but really? Pretty bad timing for a detailed family story with all the targets MAGA has on his back.

34 felonies, it's been all over the news. Hard to see how even the most incompetent could miss that.

Name calling & insulting.... the OldCold way.


At least you are consistent

That was neither name-calling nor insulting. It was me simply stating the truth. If you somehow took that personally, then that's a U-problem, not a me-problem!

Sometimes I wonder if some posters on this board comprehend basic English. And if they do, then why are they offended by every other word?

The story is from 2019. It was simply the most comprehensive information I could find detailing the background information on her family in terms of any of them being open to deportation.

Here is the indictement

https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf

I don't watch the news very often, and I can honestly say I hadn't heard or seen that information.

felony…Up to four years in prison if found guilty of a single charge if used to cover up another crime.

I think the primary reason this was even charged, besides being 34 felonies, is that there is a RICO case in Trump's near future.

Lock him up, Lock him up!

JMHO- Manhattan DA was first- he ain't the best. How Donald Trump isn't hosed for his Georgia crime or his multiple classified information crimes- both of those are WAY more damaging than NY stuff- all typical Trump stuff- his whole life he hasn't been held accountable- his time is coming. Barr, another supporter thrown under the bus, stated the Donald is his worst enemy- his time IS COMING. Praise God.

Update, I watched the news last night.... Sorry it was only local news to get the weather update.

I did catch a little of David Muir afterward, but it was all about the shooting at that bank.

Just a guess on my part, but I think Trump will eventually be convicted for the NY crimes he's accused of. I do however have doubts that he'll spend any time in prison for them.

The Georgia thing and the J6th thing will be much worse for him.. Again, JMO. As for the documents thing, I just don't know what to think.

Trump lawsuit against Cohen distracts from criminal case, lawyers say

Former President Trump filed a lawsuit against his ex-lawyer Michael Cohen just one week after his historic arraignment on charges related to a hush money payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels.

Driving the news: Legal experts say the filing is likely a move to distract from the ex-president's arraignment and cast doubt on Cohen's credibility as a witness in the Manhattan criminal trial.

"This is a PR stunt, arguably one as retaliation because Michael Cohen is now the star witness in the Manhattan criminal case," Bradley Moss, a national security attorney, told Axios.
"The civil lawsuit against Michael Cohen is an attempt to deflect the attention from Donald Trump in a criminal case," Gene Rossi, a former federal prosecutor, said.

Trump, who is running for president, sued Cohen for more than $500 million for alleged "breaches of fiduciary duty, unjust enrichment, conversion, and breaches of contract," per a filing Wednesday in a U.S. District Court in the Southern District of Florida.

The lawsuit claims that Cohen benefitted from their attorney-client relationship and that Trump has "suffered vast reputational harm as a direct result of Defendant’s breaches," per the filing.

State of play: Trump last month became the first U.S. president — sitting or former — to be criminally charged.

Trump last week pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records in the first degree in a Manhattan criminal court related to 2016 hush money payments.
Cohen, who testified before the grand jury in the Manhattan district attorney's criminal investigation, in 2018 was convicted and sentenced to three years in prison on charges involving campaign finance violations, tax evasion and lying to Congress.

What to watch: The legal experts say that if the case does go to discovery, Trump likely can't provide the necessary evidence and develop a testimony "without exposing him and ... various Trump officials and Trump family members to criminal or civil liability."

"As a legal matter, I don't see this going anywhere," Moss said.
That it was filed in Florida, rather than New York or Washington, D.C., where the alleged misconduct occurred, is another reason the filing is on shaky legal ground, he said.

The bottom line: "There may have been legitimate issues that Trump could have raised years ago," Moss said.

"He could have sued to stop publication of the book, all kinds of things, but at this stage, he can't risk discovery on any of this stuff."

https://www.axios.com/2023/04/12/tr...18DT-FtDwBDVorLiO30JMosGg2FCe8kXdxuRUPVM

Ah, the "you told on me" lawsuit.

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is sent another threatening letter and white powder

The envelope also included a photo of former President Donald Trump. The powder was determined to be nonhazardous, sources said.

The Manhattan district attorney whose office is prosecuting former President Donald Trump again received a letter containing white powder, two senior law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

The most recent envelope, which was addressed to prosecutor Alvin Bragg, included a letter that used an expletive to describe Bragg's weight and powder that authorities determined was nonhazardous, the sources said.

A photo of Bragg and Trump was also in the envelope, the sources said. New York police were called to the office's mailroom in lower Manhattan as a precaution.

Additional details about the apparent threat were not immediately available.

The incident marked the second time Bragg has been sent white powder in recent weeks.

In March, a letter containing a death threat and white powder was mailed to Bragg’s office.

“ALVIN: I AM GOING TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!” the letter said.

At the time, a senior law enforcement source said Bragg had been the subject of “several hundred” threats. A couple of dozen were considered to directly threaten serious harm, the source said.

On April 4, Trump pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records related to his role in hush money payments made near the end of the 2016 presidential campaign.

A statement of facts filed by Bragg's office accused Trump of "repeatedly and fraudulently" falsifying the records to conceal damaging information from voters.

Trump has called the case "fake" and said the only crime he committed was "to fearlessly defend our nation from those who seek to destroy it."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...gZ15f5338hpiAS9cF7MHbkCdlCWUSC2pjNDNYuzY

Thinking about this statement, he actually thinks he’s the country. It’s solely his in his mind. He’s fearlessly defending those who seek to expose all of his deplorable crimes and behavior.

Rather than to start yet another trump thread. More legal trouble for trump is on its way......

Trump employees moved boxes at Mar-a-Lago day before FBI visit: report

Mar-a-Lago workers for former President Trump moved boxes of papers a day before federal authorities visited the residence last June to recover classified documents, The Washington Post reported.

The Post also reported that people familiar with the matter said that Trump employees allegedly carried out a “dress rehearsal” for moving the documents even before they received a subpoena for documents last May. The Post reported that this new information could potentially extend the timeline determining whether the former president obstructed justice.

Trump is facing a federal probe over the discovery of classified documents at his private residence at Mar-a-Lago last year. Federal authorities searched the residence last August, uncovering more than 100 classified documents during that search.

Special counsel Jack Smith was appointed in the fall to oversee the Justice Department’s investigation into the documents, as well as a second investigation into Trump’s role in the Jan. 6 attacks on the Capitol. Lawyers for Trump asked earlier this week to meet with Attorney General Merrick Garland, which is a sign that the investigation could be winding down.

Trump is also facing an election probe in Georgia over his alleged attempts to overturn the state’s election results. He was also recently charged on 34 counts of falsifying business records in connection to a hush money case in New York.

The New York Times reported that a maintenance worker saw a Trump aide moving boxes into the storage area just one day before federal authorities visited the residence in June. A person familiar with the matter told The Times that the worker helped the aide move the boxes but did not know what the boxes contained.

The Hill has reached out to the Trump campaign and the Justice Department for comment.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...6EryTUxjgOnJ7fMLsR1k7AnBs9g-F4vJV2JLtPM0

Sounds like he was ready to share these documents with every other country but the USA.

Secret audio tape among evidence collected by DA in fraud case against Trump

The 2016 recording of Trump reportedly contained a discussion of hush money.

The evidence in the Manhattan DA's criminal fraud case against former President Donald Trump includes a secretly made 2016 recording of Trump and a witness, thought to be Michael Cohen, that ABC News previously reported contained a discussion of a plan to buy the silence of Playboy model Karen McDougal prior to the 2016 election.

The recording is included in a document known as an Automatic Discovery Form that lists the kind of evidence Manhattan prosecutors have amassed during their multi-year investigation, in preparation for it to be turned over to Trump's attorneys as they prepare his defense.

Trump last month pled not guilty to a 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in what prosecutors say was a "scheme" to boost his 2016 election chances by using hush money payments to suppress damaging information from two women who claimed to have had long-denied affairs with Trump.

Although the name of the witness was not disclosed in the Automatic Discovery Form that was made public on Friday, ABC News reported that the person was Cohen when it reported on the secret recording in 2018.

Cohen, Trump's then-personal attorney, told investigators that he worked with the publisher of the National Enquirer, longtime Trump ally David Pecker, to pay McDougal $150,000 for the rights to her story that she'd had a 10-month affair with Trump from 2006 to 2007, so the Enquirer could suppress the story and keep it from going public.

On the recording obtained by ABC News, Trump and Cohen were heard discussing the payment.

"Don't pay with cash ... check," Trump stated, according to a transcript released by Trump's legal team after news of the recording was made public.

Trump's attorneys said the recording showed that Trump wanted to pay via check in order to properly document the payment.

Trump has denied all charges against him. A judge on Tuesday set a trial date of March 25, 2024, for the case.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/secret-au...JZi0Syw1TFljcEj0TvWB8UnxsC16p_qh-Cxhx6Vc

Trump captured on tape talking about classified document he kept after leaving the White House

Federal prosecutors have obtained an audio recording of a summer 2021 meeting in which former President Donald Trump acknowledges he held onto a classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran, multiple sources told CNN, undercutting his argument that he declassified everything.

The recording indicates Trump understood he retained classified material after leaving the White House, according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation. On the recording, Trump’s comments suggest he would like to share the information but he’s aware of limitations on his ability post-presidency to declassify records, two of the sources said.

CNN has not listened to the recording, but multiple sources described it. One source said the relevant portion on the Iran document is about two minutes long, and another source said the discussion is a small part of a much longer meeting.

Special counsel Jack Smith, who is leading the Justice Department investigation into Trump, has focused on the meeting as part of the criminal investigation into Trump’s handling of national security secrets. Sources describe the recording as an “important” piece of evidence in a possible case against Trump, who has repeatedly asserted he could retain presidential records and “automatically” declassify documents.

Prosecutors have asked witnesses about the recording and the document before a federal grand jury. The episode has generated enough interest for investigators to have questioned Gen. Mark Milley, one of the highest-ranking Trump-era national security officials, about the incident.

The July 2021 meeting was held at Trump’s golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, with two people working on the autobiography of Trump’s former chief of staff Mark Meadows as well as aides employed by the former president, including communications specialist Margo Martin. The attendees, sources said, did not have security clearances that would allow them access to classified information. Meadows didn’t attend the meeting, sources said.

Meadows’ autobiography includes an account of what appears to be the same meeting, during which Trump “recalls a four-page report typed up by (Trump’s former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) Mark Milley himself. It contained the general’s own plan to attack Iran, deploying massive numbers of troops, something he urged President Trump to do more than once during his presidency.”

The document Trump references was not produced by Milley, CNN was told.

Investigators have questioned Milley about the episode in recent months, making him one of the highest-ranking national security officials from Trump’s administration to meet with the special counsel’s team. Milley’s spokesman Dave Butler declined to comment to CNN.

The revelation that the former president and commander-in-chief has been captured on tape discussing a classified document could raise his legal exposure as he continues his third bid for the White House. Trump has denied any wrongdoing.

A Trump campaign spokesman said “leaks” are meant to “inflame tensions” around Trump.

“The DOJ’s continued interference in the presidential election is shameful and this meritless investigation should cease wasting the American taxpayer’s money on Democrat political objectives,” the spokesman added.

When asked at a CNN town hall this month if he showed classified documents he kept after the presidency to anyone, Trump answered: “Not really. I would have the right to. By the way, they were declassified after.”

A lawyer for Meadows declined to comment. A lawyer for Martin declined to comment.

Smith’s investigation has shown signs of nearing its end, though it hasn’t yet resulted in any criminal charges. A spokesman for the special counsel’s office declined to comment for this story.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/trump-tape-classified-document-iran-milley/index.html

Reaction from Trump's spokesperson?


How much longer will people believe the swill he is regurgitating?

Former Trump lawyer: Reported audio ‘eviscerates’ defense in documents investigation

Former Trump administration White House lawyer Ty Cobb said late Wednesday that an audio recording that reportedly reveals former President Trump discussing a classified document he took from the White House “eviscerates” Trump’s defense in the Justice Department’s (DOJ) classified documents probe.

Cobb said in an interview with CNN’s Erin Burnett that the recording undermines Trump’s previous arguments that he could declassify documents just by taking them out of the White House or that he could declassify them simply by thinking about it.

“It further enhances the obstruction case because it eviscerates the two defenses that Trump has put forward,” Cobb said.

CNN reported earlier Wednesday that the DOJ had obtained the recording of Trump discussing the document — which refers to a potential U.S. attack on Iran — during a meeting at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., in July 2021.

Trump and his allies have defended his actions over the classified and sensitive documents that were taken out of the White House to locations such as his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., by arguing that he declassified the documents.

Cobb said on CNN that Trump’s arguments are “out the door” because he acknowledged on the tape that he knew there were restraints on what he could do with the documents.

Cobb said the recording could also place additional pressure on special counsel Jack Smith to tie the potential obstruction of justice case to Trump’s possession and use of the documents. But he said Smith would not have to take on the “burden” of a case on classified documents along with one on obstruction, because he already has access to the evidence on Trump’s possession of the documents.

Pursuing cases on obstruction and possession would slow down the proceedings, Cobb added, something Smith does not appear to want to do.

“I think Trump and his own team believe this is going to come quickly,” Cobb said, referring to a potential indictment.

Smith has been investigating Trump’s roles in the documents taken from the White House along with the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection and efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...nrcFCirQKVdPh07cTokJE_t24RPryov9xGsR8tVM

If Trump doesn’t go to jail, I’m done with the laws of this s-hole country. Murder and Mayhem will be the rule of law in the absence of true justice. I’d live in that environment before living in a world that let’s Trump (and the other rich) live above the law. Scew what the fascist right thinks, the overwhelming majority of voters know he’s guilty af.

I was watching "FDR" on the History channel.

My first reaction was the quality of his leadership and the quality of his character. How he united a country that was in the depths of a depression. Then united the country in a war effort that determined the outcome of democracy.

trump by comparison has attacked the DOJ, FBI, the courts, and the constitution.

He has done everything possible to divide the country. He has been impeached twice. He has been indicted. He failed the people in the time of an epidemic.
He attempted to overthrow the government. Denied a valid election. Stole government property and classified secret documents.
He supported an insurrection and was behind a plan with fake electors to overturn an election.


And he is running for the office of the presidency and is the leader of the republican party. As he awaits trial on one indictment and will face further indictments.

What the hell is wrong with people?

You have accurately described the difference between America and Murica.

Of course any president like FDR who actually did things for people at the bottom of the economic ladder would these days would be labeled a socialist and condemned by the right. Of course I guess that's better than the 1960's where any leader trying to help the common man was assassinated. I guess they thought "That'll teach them!".

I also watched the three day documentary on FDR. I thought it was very good. Of course I've always applauded leaders who looked out for the common man and FDR most certainly did that better than any American president I've ever heard of.

He has also tried to influence the outcome an election. And is now complain the justice department is interfering with an election. And his supporters are probably saying, Well.. He is RIGHT. Murica!

This is what you get when the dumb lead the dumber. Nobody has a clue, chaos to ensue. Up becomes down, and true colors are exposed. I never thought I’d see any of this in my lifetime in America. I was naive.

Trump-funded studies disputing election fraud are focus in two probes

The then-president’s campaign hired two firms to prove voter fraud, but none was ever found

A decision by then-President Donald Trump’s campaign to spend more than $1 million for two firms to study whether electoral fraud occurred in the 2020 election has become an increasing focus of federal and state investigators in recent weeks, according to people familiar with the matter.

In recent days, the district attorney in Georgia’s Fulton County has asked both firms to provide research and data as investigators intensify their probe into Trump’s attempt to overturn the result of the 2020 presidential election in Georgia.

Not only has the office asked for information and data about Georgia, three people familiar with the inquiries said, but it also is seeking other communications with Trump officials and detailed information about the campaign’s activities in other states. The research is likely to be used as the prosecutors try to build a broader case, alleging racketeering, according to the three people.

In addition, on the federal level, Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith is questioning witnesses about the companies’ work and has obtained hundreds of pages of emails and research, two people familiar with the matter said.

Both firms, Berkeley Research Group and Simpatico Software Systems, are said to be cooperating with the inquiries. The two companies declined to comment for this article. Four other people familiar with one or both of the probes spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose internal details.

Earlier this spring, federal prosecutors obtained evidence from Berkeley employees that in late 2020, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows berated employees at the firm after they said there was not enough evidence to overturn the election results and encouraged them to find fraud, people with knowledge of the testimony said.

Federal investigators have extensively questioned witnesses about any pressure put on the firms to produce work that would give Trump results he wanted, two people with knowledge of the questioning said.

Additionally, federal authorities have obtained extensive email records from Ken Block, the president of Simpatico Software Systems, according to people familiar with the matter. The emails from Block to Trump’s campaign show in detail that many of the theories — more than a dozen in total — being pushed by Trump’s team were erroneous, and Block explains the research he conducted, the people said.

A person with knowledge of dozens of the emails said that Block at times seemed to be amazed at the theories he was being asked to pursue, along with the shoddiness of the methodology that others had used.

“It’s not appropriate at this time for me to say what I have shared with the grand jury,” Block said, referring to the federal probe.

It is unclear whether charges will be brought by the special counsel’s office or Georgia authorities, and if so, whether the firms’ work would be a large part of any prosecutions. But it has been an increasing focus for prosecutors, who have repeatedly quizzed Trump aides about the work and whether they were familiar with the findings.

The hiring of the firms — which were paid about $1.5 million in total and whose work spanned November and December 2020 — originated from senior White House advisers and campaign officials who wanted to know whether any of the claims of electoral wrongdoing could be verified.

The findings were never released to the public as Trump and a coterie of allies continued to say there was fraud. For example, the reports were not turned over to the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, Trump advisers said. The reports were not reviewed by investigators until after The Washington Post reported on their existence, two people familiar with subpoenas in the case said.

Knowledge of the reports in recent months has given prosecutors new witnesses who have described exactly how theories about electoral fraud were debunked in writing, and have said that many campaign and White House advisers knew of the research. The 29-page report from Berkeley and Block’s research show that some of the claims had been debunked even before Trump’s advisers made them publicly.

What prosecutors have sought to show, according to people who have been questioned, is that Trump and aides willfully ignored evidence in their push to raise money and overturn the election, and that a panoply of advisers had access to the data. The evidence is compelling to prosecutors because it is not neutral or third-party groups saying that Trump lost, but instead analysts whose work Trump’s own team commissioned and funded.

Investigators have asked other witnesses about what briefings and information were provided to the White House about the election being fair and secure, and what attacks officials experienced from Trump for saying the election was not stolen. Prosecutors also have focused on conversations between Trump and his own advisers about whether there was fraud in the election; at least two Trump advisers say they told prosecutors that they conveyed to Trump that they believed he had lost the election.

Some of the accounts from people involved in the work have provided additional details for the period.

When analysts from Berkeley briefed Meadows, presidential lawyer Rudy Giuliani and other senior Trump advisers on their work in late 2020, Meadows told the group there clearly was fraud in the election, these people said. Many of the Berkeley employees were on the phone, while Meadows, Trump and others were in the White House for the meeting, the people said.

Meadows said during the meeting that Berkeley researchers — some of whom were highly trained econometricians — were not looking hard enough for electoral fraud or potentially had an agenda against Trump, even though the firm was being paid by the campaign, and that they should look harder, according to the accounts.

A Meadows spokesman declined to comment.

The firm’s work was disseminated among some of Trump’s senior campaign advisers and White House aides, Trump advisers have testified to the grand jury.

Through a Trump lawyer, Meadows later sent new claims to the group to study, people familiar with the matter said. “It was like playing whack-a-mole,” said one person with direct knowledge of the process.

What prosecutors have focused on is whether Trump or his aides pressured anyone — and how widely Trump advisers knew about such efforts.

Giuliani and Trump also questioned the firm’s research in the meeting, which grew “rancorous,” as one attendee described it.

Some Berkeley employees were frustrated by the meeting, which they feared showed Trump and his team were not interested in the truth, people with knowledge of the matter said.

The relationship between Berkeley and the campaign soon soured. Researchers from the firm decided to put together one final report with their findings and labeled it “confidential” before sending it to a Trump lawyer.

In the days leading up to Jan. 6, Trump campaign officials wanted to release some of Berkeley Research Group’s work to members of Congress, according to people familiar with the matter. Berkeley included in the report some anomalies that did not show fraud but which Trump officials thought might be of interest to members of Congress.

But Berkeley executives believed the election was over — and that their work was commissioned for lawsuits that were unsuccessful.

After the Jan. 6 attack, executives from the Trump campaign said they might ask for a refund on Berkeley’s work. The demand was sent by email, people familiar with the matter said.

Instead of seeking a final payment from the campaign that it was owed, Berkeley decided to drop the matter, these people said. A refund was not given.

Berkeley executives were said to be unhappy later when their work on behalf of Trump emerged publicly, according to people familiar with the matter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ing-election-fraud-are-focus-two-probes/

Trump's attorneys spotted at Justice Department ahead of grand jury meeting

The federal investigation into Donald Trump's handling of classified documents is reaching an inflection point.

WASHINGTON — Attorneys for Donald Trump met with officials at the Justice Department on Monday morning, the same week the grand jury investigating the former president's handling of classified documents is expected to meet again.

NBC News has confirmed that part of Trump's legal team met at Justice Department headquarters in Washington Monday. Three of Trump's lawyers — James Trusty, John Rowley and Lindsey Halligan — were at the Justice Department and met with a group of Justice Department officials that did not include Attorney General Merrick Garland or Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco. The team was first spotted by CBS News and then was seen emerging from the building just before noon.

NBC News reported that the grand jury investigating Trump's handling of classified documents is expected to meet again this week. The FBI searched Trump's estate at Mar-a-Lago in August 2022, finding over 11,000 government documents, including over "one hundred unique documents with classification markings," according to a prior government filing.

An FBI affidavit said that the FBI found 184 classified documents in the boxes that Trump returned to the National Archives ahead of the August 2022 search, which turned up the additional classified documents.

Shortly after his lawyers left the Justice Department, Trump posted to his Truth Social platform. "HOW CAN DOJ POSSIBLY CHARGE ME, WHO DID NOTHING WRONG, WHEN NO OTHER PRESIDENT’S WERE CHARGED, WHEN JOE BIDEN WON’T BE CHARGED FOR ANYTHING," Trump wrote. DOJ has not announced any charges.

Attorney General Merrick Garland announced the appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith in November 2022, just after Trump formally launched his campaign for the 2024 Republican nomination. Smith is investigating both Trump's handling of classified documents — as well as potential obstruction of that investigation — as well as aspects of the Jan. 6 investigation and effects to “interfere with the lawful transfer of power following the 2020 presidential election or the certification of the Electoral College vote held on or about January 6, 2021, as well as any matters that arose or might arise directly from this investigation.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...iD5Fy4FFEcnffvzPHCc40MU2XFwXlOFEKW0p6s9s

Let me guess. Trumps’s lawyers are working a deal to fix it all for him. Lol

As much as I' d like to think that isn't possible... It probably is. What I mean is that I'd like to think the saying, "nobody is above the law" is true and accurate, I think we all know that the law is different for the elite or so called elite.

Trump lashes out after lawyers meet with DOJ

Former President Trump unleashed a torrent of angry social media posts Tuesday about the investigations into his conduct, the day after his lawyers met with Justice Department (DOJ) officials.

Trump posted several times on Truth Social, levying claims that he is being politically targeted and offering up misleading comparisons between his own case and President Biden’s when it comes to handling classified material.

“The Marxists and Fascists in the DOJ & FBI are going after me at a level and speed never seen before in our Country, and I did nothing wrong,” he wrote in one post. “Joe Biden kept (keeps) thousand of documents, in many locations, some illegally taken from skiffs while he was a Senator, a big portion of which were classified. He didn’t want to give them back, and still doesn’t. Nothing happens to him, with same reasonable prosecutor who correctly exonerated Mike Pence. I have a much different prosecutor, a Trump hater!”

Jack Smith, a DOJ special counsel, is investigating Trump’s handling of classified materials after dozens of sensitive documents were found at his Mar-a-Lago estate last summer. Those documents were found in an FBI raid that came after Trump refused to turn the documents over to the National Archives.

A separate special counsel is investigating Biden’s handling of classified material after documents were found at his Wilmington, Del., home and an old Washington, D.C., office from his time as vice president. Biden’s team alerted federal officials upon discovering the documents and turned them over.

The Justice Department last week also cleared former Vice President Mike Pence of any wrongdoing after a small number of classified documents were found at his Indiana home in January.

In several other posts, Trump claimed that the investigations into his conduct amounted to “election interference” as he seeks the Republican presidential nomination in 2024.

“It’s all about ELECTION INTERFERENCE. They don’t want to run against me,” he wrote. “I ran twice, I did much better the second time, getting millions and millions more votes than the first, a record for a sitting President, and am leading Biden in the polls, by a lot. They are the Party of Disinformation! They are using the DOJ & FBI against me to Rigg the 2024 Election.”

“They are also going after me as RETRIBUTION for the Republicans in Congress going after them,” Trump wrote in a separate post. “The difference is, they have created major crimes, I have created none!”

A day prior to Trump’s lashing out, his lawyers met with DOJ officials to discuss the ongoing case against him, according to multiple outlets.

ABC News reported the meeting included Smith, who — in addition to the document case — is also probing Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election results and remain in power, including his part in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

In addition to the special counsel investigation, Trump is under legal scrutiny in Georgia, where a state prosecutor is looking into his team’s efforts to overturn the state’s 2020 election results.

And the Manhattan district attorney in April charged Trump with more than 30 felony counts related to a hush money scheme to keep quiet an alleged affair with a porn star during the 2016 campaign. Trump has denied the allegations.

Trump is currently leading the GOP primary field in most national polls, though polls have been mixed for him at the state level and in head-to-head matchups with Biden. A Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll released last month showed Trump leading Biden by 7 percentage points in a hypothetical matchup, though a Quinnipiac University poll released late last month showed Biden ahead by 2 percentage points.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...X6W9TYcoq3EK2NQBV-Ih8qZeAl4A0YDVvnyjKIZQ

It would appear as though the meeting between his attorneys on the DOJ didn't turn out the way he had hoped. So in typical trump fashion he lashes out in a lie filled tantrum. Same as it ever was. And his minions continue to believe him.

I don't want to read you wrong, so just answer please.. Do you think these investigations are unwarrented? Do you feel that Trump is innocent?

He posted that over 2 months ago.

Plus, I haven't seen him post on here in about as long. Swish too. Wonder what happened to him?

Swish 'resolved' to quit us on 12/31...

Vers got the boot nearly a month ago...

Daman routinely responds to posts a month+ old.

OK ... well I don't keep up with all the goings on. I've wondered where the hell Swish has been because I miss his posts. Not so much the other guy - the board still has tussles, it's no-where near as toxic without him. What happened that I missed? Was it the legal talk and his manoeuvrings that looked like he was trying to set himself up to take legal action vs the board?

Don't know about all that.

But, imagine a board without pit and ocd. What a heaven it would be.

Pretty big news afternoon...

Mark Meadows testified in front of the grand jury. Don't know how long ago-but, he flipped. He will testify with some limited immunity and will only be charged with some lesser crimes.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tru...tifies-special-counsel/story?id=99883099


Steve Bannon has been subpoenaed by the DOJ for Jan 6th. He can not refuse this and not be held in contempt.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...bpoenaed-special-counsel-jan-6-rcna88248


And donald trump has been told that Jack Smith/Garland will be indicting him on espionage and obstruction charges in the very, very near future-some reporting that the DOJ will go for a vote in front of the grand jury as soon as tomorrow.

Honestly - I feel the same way about Trump and his various investigations as I do about Stefanski and Watson .... just show me. Don't talk about it. Don't tell me about it. Show me. End of.

Not asking you or anyone not to post about this stuff ... just giving my thoughts or 2C.