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How is providing evidence in a shooting "working with them"? All you are doing is making excuses for the FBI and the federal government to avoid transparency. To tell one side of the story while refusing to allow anyone else to take a look at the case. Your excuses are disgusting. Idiotic is to make excuses that while a vehicle is no longer a danger to an agent he is right in continuing shooting at someone.

This is what the madness from the right looks like. Good's father in law plainly told CNN he is a trump supporter just like you are. You managed to leave that part out. It's why you both sound the same.

Again, why does the State and local officials refuse to work with the Feds? You want the Feds to be transparent, but the State and local officials fight against their every move. More than likely to prevent them from uncovering their fraud and their financial gain coming from allowing the fraud. But excuse 1 and not the other.

I'm not so sure why this needs to be explained over and over again but here it goes again.......

ICE is the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. It's a federal agency responsible for immigration enforcement. Immigration enforcement is the responsibility of the federal government whose funding is solely for that purpose. Their budget is currently $10.042 billion dollars for 2025.

By contrast state and local law enforcement is funded by state and local taxpayers. It's use is intended and measured to enforce and investigate local and state crimes. Unlike ICE their budget can't just be increased at the drop of a hat because someone signs a piece of paper. Which is actually the job of congress but anyway.

So local and state police have very limited resources which is designated to do a certain job. That job does not include immigration enforcement. What you are suggesting is that these cities and states should take their limited resources which is designated to their police forces to investigate and police their local communities for other crimes and use it to supplement ICE.

If ICE needs more money and agents then they need to pay for that. Not drain the budget and resources from local law enforcement to help them do their job.

I don't think most people want their local police department to stop investigating who shot their brother or who stole their vehicle because those resources are bust elsewhere helping ICE. That's not what their tax money was paid to do.

Then of course you can't make a post without including BS you just made up in your brain.

They should follow suit to well-run States like Florida. If agitators involve themselves in ICE operations Florida police, then arrest agitators that do more than protest.

So states and cities should use the money meant for and paid to operate local law enforcement to help supplement a federal agency with a $10.042 billion dollar budget. And then people wonder why we can't have anything nice.

ICE should be focused on illegal immigrants and other criminals not stupid agitators obstructing justice. The local law enforcement should be handling these agitators that go beyond standing off to the side and holding signs and chanting stupid chants. If local law enforcement would have handled the Good's car blocking traffic and obstructing ICE then just maybe the shooting does not happen. There should be a concerted effort to remove all the agitators across the Country.

Then let trump pay them to do his job for him. But passing the buck and making others pay for his folly seems to be what he does best. You want help? Pay for the manpower and time.

Remove the dreads of society from obstructing officers. What does that have to do with Trump. ICE has a job to do and important job and it must be done. It just upsets your Dem elected officials that are getting rich off our tax dollars using these immigrants. They get rich and our streets get less safe. But you keep supporting the dreads of society.

Local and state governments can't print money like the federal government does. If they want help enforcing what fereal tax dollars pay ICE to do, pay them for helping ICE.

You think these taxpayers should pay for funding ICE, just like you and I do once with their federal tax dollars. And then help pay for ICE again by helping enforce immigration laws a second time. That makes no sense.


The crime rate has been going down every single year since the Biden administration began in cities across America. You sound like a crazy man.


We were told they would be going after "the worse of the worst". I'm all for that. Once again you have resorted to a childish, right wing extremist rant that makes no sense. Same as it ever was.

You wanna tell that to the Capital Police after Jan 6, 2021.....

oh oh I know mister Kotter! They didnt terrorize and murder American citizens.

You sure go fast and furious with the fairy tale b.s. lol

What a joke!

As usual, you know nothing but what you think you know. Which is, well, you know... nothing. Try harder next time, Horshack.


The Obama administration oversaw record-high deportations, peaking at over 400,000 annually, with critics highlighting stories of aggressive enforcement tactics that instilled fear in immigrant communities. Reports documented cases of wrongful deportations, coercion by officers, and returns to danger despite asylum claims or U.S. family ties.
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Personal Stories of Harm
Nydia, a transgender asylum grantee from Mexico, was repeatedly deported despite her status; after return, she endured gang attacks, rape, and cartel kidnapping as a sex slave before finally gaining permanent residency. Braulia A., a long-term U.S. resident and mother of U.S. citizen children, was deported after pleading about gang threats in Guatemala; her son was murdered there, and she was later raped and shot but survived to win her case.
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Raids and Community Fear
In 2016, ICE conducted armed home raids targeting Central American families fleeing violence, leading to separations and widespread terror; parents kept children home from school, and communities avoided work out of fear. Critics like the AFL-CIO called these actions a due process erosion, with heavy police presence for non-criminal families.

Risks After Deportation
Hondurans like Angel Diaz and José Marvin Martínez were deported and murdered shortly after return, amid policies sending 100,000 Central Americans back to high-violence areas despite known dangers of murder, rape, and torture. Human Rights Watch noted Border Patrol abuses, including excessive force, poor detention conditions, and denial of asylum processes.


https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-b...ortations-and-the-blood-on-obamas-hands/

https://www.aclu.org/news/human-rights/harrowing-tales-wrongly-deported-how-border-patrol-officers

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/obama-record-deportations-deporter-chief-or-not

https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairness-deportation-under-Obama

https://aflcio.org/2016/1/6/obama-a...ores-due-process-and-creates-communities

https://www.amnestyusa.org/blog/rea...a-administration-deports-asylum-seekers/

https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/distinctly-catholic/obamas-deportation-raids-are-horrific

https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/01/08/q-president-obamas-executive-immigration-actions

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/documentary/lost-in-detention/

https://theconversation.com/immigra...es-of-terror-and-rights-violations-74212