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Government is in the marriage business to control the back end, when it fails, distribution of assets and child welfare. They have to legally sanction it to have a legal say to what happens when it's over.

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that's what divorce court is for.., we don't need to front load anything on this matter..

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Government is in the marriage business to control the back end, when it fails, distribution of assets and child welfare. They have to legally sanction it to have a legal say to what happens when it's over.

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that's what divorce court is for.., we don't need to front load anything on this matter..

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you missed his point. if it's not legally sanctioned in the first place, then divorce court has no jurisdiction on the matter.

for instance, hey Daman, I am divorcing you. I demand 1/2 of your assets and I am taking you to court for them. if marriage isn't "front loaded" then how do you prove we were not married? if you say by "living together" then that's going to scare away an awful lot of guys with 'live-in' girlfriends, no? living together would equal married in the eyes of the government.

that's the point, you have to legally prove you were married to be able to divide assets when you divorce. so, to do that, you need to the government to adjucate the initial marriage.

though, why it's called marriage for the government in the first place is a bit ridiculous. just call it a civil union for 'everyone' in the eyes of the government. people can then call it what they want outside of that for religious/personal purposes as they please and not mandated by the government.

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for instance, hey Daman, I am divorcing you.

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Why is it I suddenly feel the need to seek therapy

The rules are already in place for marriage between man and woman right. Use those rules.. no need to make a new set, no need to make it legal or illegal or to get more government involvement in a personal choice issue.


Hey look, if gay/lesbian marriage was something that could be looked at as a national security issue, then yeah.. OK, I could see the need for intervention and legislation,, some ground rules perhaps.

But, what we have here is Man/Man or Woman/Woman marriage vs Man/Woman marriage.

Use the same set of rules and laws and there you have it.

I mean, whats next.. if I like Pepsi and you like Coke,, are we gonna need to legislate who can have what?

I really don't know enough about the Gay/lesbian world to know,, But I would suspect that its not a choice kinda thing.. I don't get the impression a guy wakes up one morning and says,, I think I'll be gay. I think they feel that way and at some point they realize it and follow through.

Again, I don't know that,, its really just my assumption.

So again, who are we to tell someone who they can love? Or who they can divorce? and why can't the same rules that apply to Man/woman marriage apply to same sex marriage?

I mean seriously,, what are we talking about? equipment differences.. that's it

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Let me throw out this hypothetical:

A man with high career aspirations.
A woman with high career aspirations.
A woman who would rather stay at home and raise kids and handle the rest.

They make great money, can afford a great lifestyle and get freaky in the sheets.

Sounds great on paper!

I just know that the women would somehow screw it up.

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my point was you completely missed Tulsa's point and now you missed it again

you said you don't know why government needs to legislate marriage, then you come back and say the rules are already in place. that's the point, they are legislating it.

and don't worry about therapy, just send the monthly checks

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No,, that's not what I was talking about.. They legislate how to disolve a marriage which was the argument,,

use the same rules in place for marriage now.

You ain't getting a dime you heartbreaker you

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On a side note, I think you two make a great couple!

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semantics, but 'made' as you can see the divorce papers have already been filed above and it looks like it's going to be a legal battle since Daman is being cheap

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No that wasn't the argument.

You asked a simple question, "why is government in the marriage business?".

I answered your question as to why government was in the marriage business.

If marriage was strictly a religious function and not a matter of law (government business) then they would have no say as to how a marriage dissolved and property divided. Most importantly who and how the children of the dissolved marriage would be cared for. Hence the government is in the marriage business. You have to have the front end to have the back end.

On a side note, I think you two make a great couple!

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Thanks,, we were once thinking of a fall wedding, but that SOB kicked me to the curb

In the end,, I don't think there needs to be any special laws governing same sex marriage which was all I was hoping to point out..

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Thanks,, we were once thinking of a fall wedding, but that SOB kicked me to the curb

In the end,, I don't think there needs to be any special laws governing same sex marriage which was all I was hoping to point out..

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Oh...

I see where this went sideways, this is the polygamy thread.


Out the door, turn left, first door on your right.

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Thanks,, we were once thinking of a fall wedding, but that SOB kicked me to the curb

In the end,, I don't think there needs to be any special laws governing same sex marriage which was all I was hoping to point out..

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Oh...

I see where this went sideways, this is the polygamy thread.


Out the door, turn left, first door on your right.

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Holy moly,, you are right.. I read one thread and posted in another... dang it all...

No wonder he dumped me.....

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Let me throw out this hypothetical:

A man with high career aspirations.
A woman with high career aspirations.
A woman who would rather stay at home and raise kids and handle the rest.

They make great money, can afford a great lifestyle and get freaky in the sheets.

Sounds great on paper!

I just know that the women would somehow screw it up.

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lol says the guy who was just vehemently opposed to same-sex marriage for moral purposes. "Unless it's two chicks, then it's cool... but only if they're hot."