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If Dmitry Itskov's 2045 initiative plays out as planned, humans will have the option of living forever with the help of machines in only 33 years. It may sound ridiculous, but the 31-year-old Russian mogul is dead serious about neuroscience, android robotics, and cybernetic immortality. He has already pulled together a team of leading Russian scientists intent on creating fully functional holographic human avatars that house artificial brains which contain a person's complete consciousness - in other words, a humanoid robot. Together, they've laid out an ambitious course of action that would see the team transplant a human brain into an artificial body (or 'avatar') in as little as seven years time. Now, Itskov is asking the world's richest people for help in financing the project. In exchange, he's offered to coordinate their own personal immortality projects for free. "I urge you to take note of the vital importance of funding scientific development in the field of cybernetic immortality and the artificial body," he writes in an open letter to members of the Forbes World's Billionaires List. "Such research has the potential to free you, as well as the majority of all people on our planet, from disease, old age and even death." Itskov goes on to offer skeptics a meeting with "a team of the world's leading scientists working in this field " to prove the viability of the concept of cybernetic immortality. And while many are skeptical that such a plan could ever come to fruition, Popular Science Magazine points that phase one -- creating a robot controlled by a human brain -- is already well within reach. "DARPA is already working on it via a program called "Avatar" (which, incidentally, is also the name of Itskov's project) through which the Pentagon hopes to create a brain-machine interface that will allow soldiers to control bipedal human surrogate machines remotely with their minds," writes PopSci's Clay Dillow. "And of course there are all the ongoing medical prosthesis projects that have shown that the human nervous system can interface with prosthetic enhancements, manipulating them via thought. Itskov draws a clear arc from what we have now to the consciousness-containing holograms that he envisions. All we have to do is attack the technological obstacles in between, one at a time, until we get there." Discovery's Alyssa Danigelis takes an opposing stance to the very idea. "There's a world of difference between pursuing a brain-controlled exoskeleton to help paraplegics regain control and wanting to essentially upload a human brain into an artificial body," she writes. "I read a sci-fi novel involving disembodied live brains once. It didn't turn out well" CBS
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While I'm in no hurry to die, I sure don't want to live forever.
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Well if the Russians say it, it must be true!!!
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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It's about to get crazy up in this place.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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I bet Putin will fund this immediately.
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Probably stands a better chance of being profitable than solar energy.
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Sounds like something right out of the Robin Williams movie Bicentennial Man. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0182789/Artificial hearts, lungs, stomach etc etc.. literally, you could live forever.
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Sweet...I'll be quitting my workout routine, get back on my pancake-only diet and start up smoking with lots of heavy drinking. Modern medicine will save us all! 
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Can I get a new back now? 
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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I hope they find a cure for Alzheimer's before they go planting brains into humanoids. Or robots. Droids. Whatever.
It may forget who it is and (exp) itself.
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I wonder if Obamacare will cover this.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
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In exchange, he's offered to coordinate their own personal immortality projects for free.
Donald Trump.
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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What makes them think our brains can live forever. There is so many other things they could be doing
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Good. Maybe now i'll live to see the Browns win a championship. 
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I found this neat website the other day, interesting projections into the future http://www.futuretimeline.net/index.htm
President - Fort Collins Browns Backers
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I instantly thought of Logans Run.
Even IF possibe You cant keep people around forever!
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I think that the true physical life extension will be the result of curing disease and cloning organs that will be a perfect fit for a patient. I suspect that we will see more technology becoming part of the human experience, as humans become more directly wired in, but I don't see robotics as the long term solution.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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Who wants to live forever ?
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I do.
Just not on this plane of existence.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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I do.
As mentioned above, on a long enough timeline, the Cleveland Browns (and Indians) will eventually win a championship and I want to see it.
When people hold up those, "now I can die in peace" signs...they'll really mean it because they've been hanging on for 156 years.
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Good. Maybe now i'll live to see the Browns win a championship.
Haooy birthday.... and no chance in hell. Parts still wear out, and eventually stop getting made. 
Browns is the Browns
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Thanks man. Last year of my twenties today.
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Haooy birthday.... and no chance in hell. Parts still wear out, and eventually stop getting made.
"What do you mean my heart's been discontinued?????" 
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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...or you see this while trying to purchase a new bladder from Amazon.com:
"Currently Out of Stock - You will be notified by e-mail when we receive more from our supplier. Would you consider buying used?"
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Or .......
"I'm sorry, but the liver you requested is backordered. With special adapter kit (part # 459-b-786-krb) you can install one of these other models instead. Would you like to continue?"
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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Or .......
"I'm sorry, but the liver you requested is backordered. With special adapter kit (part # 459-b-786-krb) you can install one of these other models instead. Would you like to continue?"
I'm not overweight, I just had to use a bunch of adapters and needed more space.
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To get back to the article for just a second and correct me if I'm wrong, but you aren't really still "alive"... you are basically a brain, in a jar, "living" through a holographic image... no thanks.
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To get back to the article for just a second and correct me if I'm wrong, but you aren't really still "alive"... you are basically a brain, in a jar, "living" through a holographic image... no thanks.
I think the odds are better that they "download" your brain into some sort of matrix video game computer simulation. I mean, brains degrade. Of course, the first time that new intern trips over the power cable...
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We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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All we have to do is attack the technological obstacles in between, one at a time, until we get there.
Uh....you mean solving the problem of human consciousness? What a bunch of garbage. You might be able to attach a brain to an artificial body, but that doesn't mean the brain will experience consciousness in the way that humans currently do. Consciousness is not simply produced by the brain independent of the body. Destroy that link and consciousness is destroyed.
But, if I could extend my life, I would. Probably not indefinitely. That's a pretty serious committment. But I'd take at least an extra thousand years.
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Not me. I believe that death isn't the end, It's the birth of our next gig in this universe.
Why would you want to be stuck here forever?
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong
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Not me. I believe that death isn't the end, It's the birth of our next gig in this universe.
Why would you want to be stuck here forever?
To watch the Browns of course!!!
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Not me. I believe that death isn't the end, It's the birth of our next gig in this universe.
Why would you want to be stuck here forever?
To watch the Browns of course!!!
lol...at the rate we've been going i'm for peens way 
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Not me. I believe that death isn't the end, It's the birth of our next gig in this universe.
Why would you want to be stuck here forever?
To watch the Browns of course!!!
Well there is this one gig Peen is referring to that involves fire, it's about the same thing as watching the browns.
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Not me. I believe that death isn't the end, It's the birth of our next gig in this universe.
Why would you want to be stuck here forever?
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Well there is this one gig Peen is referring to that involves fire, it's about the same thing as watching the browns.
I am not referring to fire. I am not worried about that. I have a good heart and for the most part have done good things to others.
Be it Heaven, or the next plane of existence. Whatever it holds, we are going there. Just as we came here from some other realm.
My feeling is God is good. I say God because that is what I know to be true, but allow others to think what they want.
The point is IMO "Hell" is only reserved for the really twisted, evil souls that infect the planet. All the others get endless opportunities to reach "The End".
You just keep coming back here. A good enough place, yet one that tests you from a early age and on a regular basis.
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You just keep coming back here. A good enough place, yet one that tests you from a early age and on a regular basis.
Kind of makes you wonder how many times you've been back and what you did to screw it up and get back here again.
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It does. And we are at the age where we think about it
Not out of fear. At some point you don't fear death. You just reflect and think about the things you could have done better and how you could have been a better person.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong
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