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I thought this was interesting. Dowell Loggains said in a recent interview that Manziel sent him a text during the draft as he was sliding to come up and get him. Loggains showed text to Pettine and Haslam and the move was made.

The audio link is attached in the article.

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Interesting stuff...

kinda almost makes the Bridgewater story a little more valid, IMO.

Listening to the audio, I thought just the opposite. It sounds as though it was Manziel all the way.

I love it. I think this kid is special and he is gonna change the Browns destiny.

If we take Manziel and march him out there against the Steelers in the opener, it won't be a balloon that pops, it'll be his confidence.

I have zero doubts that Manziel will be the starter before the year is over, but it can't happen right out of the gate. It just can't, not if we have an ounce of sense.

It all depends upon what he is showing in preseason and practice. If you have any reservations after that 3rd preseason game, then you dont play him. Even if he looks ready, I would probably take the approach of playing him but run the hell out of the ball and just cut down on the number of throws u are asking a rookie to make.

When to play the youngster, is dependent upon the youngster and the talent around him.

I will find it really disappointing if Manziel does not win the job in camp.

I fully agree with the last sentence, Mourg, but unless your name is Manning or Luck the odds of you being ready to go out there and face a defense like the Steelers as a rookie are loooooong.

Based on the style he played in college compared to the pro game, I truly cannot envision him being ready day 1.

My guess it week 5, the browns have a bye week 4.

If it's clear that Manziel is the better, more talented player, then there is no reason he shouldn't play against the Steelers.

You cannot be afraid to play your best players because the other team might break him.

Everybody thought Colt McCoy starting his first career NFL game vs the Steelers was going to get him killed. But the little runt stood tall.

Do you remember Tim Couch? If we had benched him for the first season as planned he might have been a decent QB. Instead we play him, he gets sacked 99999 times and learns to be terrified in the pocket.
I hope we bring him along the way the Niners did Kapernick. A few sets of plays each game till either injury(Browns starters rarely last long) or he shows he's ready.

Vontae Mack is that you??

Weeden is irrelevant. Each situation needs to be judged individually.

this may change things a bit....

Johnny's Manziel's "hurry up and draft me'' text inspires Browns' Jimmy Haslam to say "pull the trigger,'' QB coach says

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss...t_river_default

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains said in a radio interview Thursday that a text from Johnny Manziel during the draft helped inspire owner Jimmy Haslam to trade up for him.

"We're sitting there and they keep showing Johnny on T.V. and Johnny and I are texting and he shoots me a text and he says, 'I wish you guys would come get me. Hurry up and draft me because I want to be there. I want to wreck this league together.'

"When I got that text, I forwarded it to the owner and to the head coach (Mike Pettine),'' Loggains said Thursday on Sports Talk with Bo Mattingly on Arkansas ESPN. "I'm like 'this guy wants to be here. He wants to be part of it.' As soon as that happened, Mr. Haslam said, 'pull the trigger. We're trading up to go get this guy.'''

The Browns traded up from No. 26 to No. 22 and turned Johnny Football into Johnny Cleveland.

"It shows you what type of competitor the kid is and I got to spend so much time with him leading up to this process,'' said Loggains, a former Arkansas Razorback. "I feel like I know him very well. I had a good relationship with him. That's the type of kid this guy is. He wants to do well. He's got a chip on his shoulder and he decided to be a Brown.''

Loggains revealed that the coaching staff was involved throughout the draft, and that he was pulled into the war room whenever they came close to drafting a quarterback.

"It's not a cone of secrecy whatsoever,'' he said. "We were very involved, which is always good for a coaching staff when you get to choose your own quarterback.''

Loggains revealed the Browns tried to trade up to No. 11 with the Titans and No. 16 with the Cowboys.

"Mr. Haslam and coach Pettine had called me down to the draft room a couple of times throughout the night and we had almost made trades with Tennessee and Dallas and backed out,'' he said. "...We were sitting there and coach Pettine keeps texting me, and we're going back and forth and we're going 'hey does Dallas take him here, no they won't. Does St. Louis take him at 13?' We knew we had to get in front of the Chiefs (at No. 23) because we knew they would draft him.''

Finally, when the Browns got down to No. 22, they pulled off the trade with Philadelphia to select the former Heisman Trophy winner, sending a third-round pick to the Eagles.

"Coach texted me and said, 'we're making the trade, we're moving up' so at that point I knew I was summoned to the draft room to get on the phone and tell him he was going to be a Cleveland Brown,'' said Loggains.

Loggains knew as early as February that Haslam was enamored with the former Texas A&M product.

"When I decided to take this job in Cleveland, I knew that our owner liked Johnny a lot,'' said Loggains. "I think I worked out 14 quarterbacks, went to their schools, their high schools and worked them out, ate dinner with them, brought them to Cleveland. Once we finished all of our evaluations, it was Johnny's name at the top of the list and there was everyone else, so I knew we needed a quarterback and we were very high on Johnny.''

As the draft grew closer, Loggains had an even stronger feeling Johnny Football would be sitting across from him every day in his meeting room.

"I knew definitely that Johnny was someone that was very high on our board and someone that was in our discussions the weeks leading up to the draft,'' said Loggains. "I knew there was a good chance if he was there at some point we were going to take him or even move up to go get him.''

Then came the text heard 'round the war room.

We don't know the right way. Every way has succeeded and every way has failed.

The coaching staff needs to evaluate to the situation and do what is best without bias.

If that is true then Haslam did pull the trigger. Just like everyone on here thought.

But I like the fact Manziel wanted to come here. A true competitor has no problem making something out of nothing.

How does he have the owner's number and not the GM?

Why is Haslam talking to homeless people and getting texts from random assistant coaches. What is going on in his entourage?

Well johnny sure knows how to sell himself that's for sure. Not taking Jimmy G though will haunt us for a long time to come.

Disturbing to have Farmer already set to lie for Haslem though.

Some of you assume that Farmer wasn't on board with the pick. Why??

I think everybody was sold on Johnny Football

Agree Peen. He could well have been, and probably was, #1 on our board at that time and we were sitting at 26 waiting for him to come to us when they decided to be proactive instead.

Either way it's done, so let's wreck this league together!

If he was the number one qb on our board and we had a chance to move up to 22nd and get him, it doesn't matter who said pull the trigger. We had to have a future qb and we got him wether everyone is on board or not. The war room were all on board listing him as number one so they did the right thing regardless of who said what.

Anyone remember the last QB who clearly wanted to be drafted by the Browns?

I remember... web page

... begin reading under "NFL Draft controversy"

Browns fans can only hope Manziel works out as well as that guy who was drafted on July 3, 1985.

jc

WOW, only with this fan base can we have a1st rounder that says he dpes not want to come here and we support / protect him and we have a1st rounder that wants to come here ( even said so before the draft) and we find fault with him because 1) He text the owner and the owner shoul dhave no say in any of this or 2) he is marketing himelf.

Tough crowd.

Still I am gald your here, glad you want to be here and glad to want to work to turn this thing around.

Ugh. Here we go with that again.

I'm more amused that some people think the Steelers will strip Johnny of his confidence.

I'm not sure people understand who Johnny is and what type of personality he is going to have. Dude, as a freshman in college, went into Alabama and beat them when they were at the peak of their powers.

I think when Johnny Manziel steps on the football field, he doesn't fear anyone or anything.

I'm in the camp that says play the best man who wins the QB competition in camp

I think that competition will include running the designed plays given to you when the heat is coming at you.
I could be wrong though.