When was the last time we had the same coaching staff three years in a row?
I'm not sure if we have a quality control coach (or staff), but if we do I'd like to see an upgrade. If we don't, it is clear we need one that holds Offensive and Defensive playcallers, player execution, and game planning accountable. I think we can all agree play calling, game planning, and stupid mistakes hindered this team.
I'm not a Joe Woods fan, but the defense showed improvements overall and the team made good adjustments at halftime. Would love to see more aggressiveness, but I'm ok with keeping him another year.
What the hell are the Dolphins doing??? They finish 8-1 down the stretch and were 1 game from the playoffs and they fire their coach?? Crazy
What the hell are the Dolphins doing??? They finish 8-1 down the stretch and were 1 game from the playoffs and they fire their coach?? Crazy
There was supposedly some strife between Flores and the GM.
You know you made a horrible move when the guy you fire immediately becomes the best coach on the market.
Brian Flores! Dolphins HC, WGGTG as a consultant or a director of 2ndary how to play on gamedays or something.
There was supposedly some strife between Flores and the GM.
And Flores and Tua as well.
j/c...
Not a coach, but FO...
If someone hires Kwesi and/or Cook we get a third round pick.
There was supposedly some strife between Flores and the GM.
And Flores and Tua as well.
How cool would it be if he won coach of the year?
Sounds like Joe Judge is back … maybe. Lol the Giants are such a cluster
If someone hires Kwesi and/or Cook we get a third round pick.
I thought it was (2) 3rd round picks?
If someone hires Kwesi and/or Cook we get a third round pick.
I thought it was (2) 3rd round picks?
You’re right!
If both Kwesi and Cook got hired we would get four third round picks (two in 2022, two in 2023).
If someone hires Kwesi and/or Cook we get a third round pick.
I thought it was (2) 3rd round picks?
You’re right!
If both Kwesi and Cook got hired we would get four third round picks (two in 2022, two in 2023).
Talk about a a cool version of the term "compensatory picks".
Well lets hope they get hired!
Well lets hope they get hired!
It’s a true win-win. If they get hired we get compensated. If they don’t get hired we get to keep highly competent people in our front office.
If I’m hiring a new head coach:
1. Brian Flores
2a. Eric Bienemy
2b. Byron Leftwich
Most of the names out there are retreads, definitely not hiring Dabol.
If I’m hiring a new head coach:
1. Brian Flores
2a. Eric Bienemy
2b. Byron Leftwich
Most of the names out there are retreads, definitely not hiring Dabol.
I’d throw everything at Flores also. He’s clearly the best guy available.
So you would go after a guy who was just let go because he couldn't get along with his QB or his GM?
So you would go after a guy who was just let go because he couldn't get along with his QB or his GM?
Or was it his QB and GM who couldn’t get along with him? I don’t know the details. I just know the Dolphins played way better than I expected them to over Flores tenure.
Flores reportedly interviewing with the Bears today. He might end up being out of work for about 36 hours.
Anyone have the inside scoop on why Miami tossed Flores?
Flores reportedly interviewing with the Bears today. He might end up being out of work for about 36 hours.
Flores being fired was stupid. The GM keeping his job who took Tua over Herbert ... equally so.
Well lets hope they get hired!
I've hated so much about the Browns past 3rd round picks, I hope they trade them all to move up in the First!!!
The Browns are not a low talent expansion team. The Browns started 2021 top 3 in the entire NFL in talent. What the heck are they going to do with 5 3rd round picks? They don't need any more Jordan Elliotts, 1 is enough, more than enough imo.
3rd round picks are not 3rd round picks!
3rd round picks are flat out not what they were when the draft only had 28 teams and not all of the add ons of extras.
3rd rounders are the sweet/spot (actually Sour) of where teams get 5th round talent, and it get's treated like 1st round and it's NOT, and the Team Suffers!
So he won all of those games with Tua as his QB and now th GM was stupid to pick Tua? It seems like some people want it both ways. "Well the QB is the wrong guy but the HC did great with him anyway".
The math on that one doesn't add up.
So you would go after a guy who was just let go because he couldn't get along with his QB or his GM?
Or was it his QB and GM who couldn’t get along with him? I don’t know the details. I just know the Dolphins played way better than I expected them to over Flores tenure.
Especially since the GM and QB both suck, can't blame a guy like Flores who comes from patriot pedigree to not want to deal with that nonsense. The player/pundit reaction says it all.. Flores should feel relieved to get away from that joke of a franchise. I'd take Flores over stefanski this second without a second thought. Dude gets the most out of everyone. If you win 7 games in a row and Tua is your QB, you're not a good coach, youre a miracle worker
Or was it his QB and GM who couldn’t get along with him? I don’t know the details.
I’d throw everything at Flores also. He’s clearly the best guy available.
For someone who doesn't know the details it sure looks like you've made up your mind.
So you would go after a guy who was just let go because he couldn't get along with his QB or his GM?
If that GM was the same guy that thought Adam Gase was a good idea, and if that QB was Tua... I wouldn't worry too much about it.
I'm glad that Flores single handedly won all of those games in a row.
So he won all of those games with Tua as his QB and now th GM was stupid to pick Tua? It seems like some people want it both ways. "Well the QB is the wrong guy but the HC did great with him anyway".
The math on that one doesn't add up.
I'd say Miami won more thanks to their Defense, from my perspective watching the games.
In their last six games they scored over 30 points or more in half of them. I'd say it was pretty even in terms of their offense having very good production.
So you're saying he was just along for the ride?
So he won all of those games with Tua as his QB and now th GM was stupid to pick Tua? It seems like some people want it both ways. "Well the QB is the wrong guy but the HC did great with him anyway".
The math on that one doesn't add up.
Why don't you just state your opinion of the HC, the GM.
Once you have done that you can defend your apparent position that picking Tua ahead of Herbert was a good selection.
Joe Judge blew his one shot as a head coach because he couldn’t stop lying in press conferences (among many other things).
What the hell are the Dolphins doing??? They finish 8-1 down the stretch and were 1 game from the playoffs and they fire their coach?? Crazy
There was supposedly some strife between Flores and the GM.
You know you made a horrible move when the guy you fire immediately becomes the best coach on the market.
Also there seemed to be an issue between Flores and Taglevola (yeah, I butchered the spelling.....)
This all begins and ends with Gettleman's dumb ass who just "retired". Yes, folks, the same Gettleman that bested Dorsey twice within a handful of days in trades.
j/c...
With all the coaches and assistants getting canned around the league...here's a quick throwback story to when Chudzinski got the boot. What a good guy!
https://twitter.com/WFNYScott/status/1480690121276117000
I saw this the other day. He is a good human.
I wish it had worked out for him here. I really wanted him to succeed (beyond the fact that he was our coach).
It probably would have . Chud didn't get much of a chance.
Chud was an awesome OC for the 2007 Browns. He should have gotten more than 1 year as HC.
j/c...
The Nerds are taking over football. I dig it.
Yale guy. On the Browns staff when Shanahan was OC in 2014.
Dolphins requested interview for HC position.
There's no argument to be made for either and that's the point here. They are second year QB's that aren't even fully developed and have had very different coaches and systems. To claim you can foresee a QB's career and success, or lack there of based on his first two seasons in the league is fools gold. Just ask drew Brees.
Joe Judge blew his one shot as a head coach because he couldn’t stop lying in press conferences (among many other things).
heard he was going to now run for Governor of NY.
Chud was an awesome OC for the 2007 Browns. He should have gotten more than 1 year as HC.
Maybe teams quitting on coaches at the end of seasons is over rated? But the team quit on Chud - it was a terrible look for a bad team, and new ownership , no matter who, was always going to replace him.
j/c....
Made millions and will make millions more over the next few years to be the sacrificial placeholder this season in Houston. Well done, David!
Oh no! Still a good payday.
According to Schefter only two of his five years were guaranteed. It’s still way more than he would have made as a receiver coach.
The Texans pretty clearly overachieved. I will never forget Culley for declining a penalty to punt against us. Stefanski was so confused.
j/c....
Made millions and will make millions more over the next few years to be the sacrificial placeholder this season in Houston. Well done, David!
I feel like he knew it was a one year gig too.
Only surprise was he didn't get fired on Monday...
j/c....
Made millions and will make millions more over the next few years to be the sacrificial placeholder this season in Houston. Well done, David!
I feel like he knew it was a one year gig too.
After the statement that he released I feel like his is true.
He was/is a really nice and upstanding guy... which is one of the main reasons they brought him in..... but don't think they ever wanted him long term (hence the two year guarantee) and he made a lot of questionable calls
on another note I'm really hoping Leftwich gets a shot at HC somewhere this year...
j/c....
Made millions and will make millions more over the next few years to be the sacrificial placeholder this season in Houston. Well done, David!
Can we put together a Dawg Talkers coaching staff, get hired by a NFL team and fired after a year and then we can all hang out worry free enjoying telling each other on the board whose fault it was beacuse ya don't know crap !! lol would be a fun time !
How in charge is Caserio? I hope not very because that means Easterby is still in charge and Easterby being in charge is the most funny thing possible.
What a dumpster fire
Hines Ward..... Offensive Assistant for the Jets and WR coach for Florida Atlantic... let's interview him for our HC position!!!!
Hines ward will just smile other teams to death.
Hines ward will just smile other teams to death.
Haha i hated that smile
Hines ward will just smile other teams to death.
Or blind side block em to then act like he's tough.
Interesting article on Zimmer and the Vikings - Stefanski would be advised to adjust his coaching stye - times have changed and Vikings Management is listening.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...era/ar-AASSs6V?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531
I read this whole thing and have no idea how it relates to Stefanski other than that he used to work for the Vikings.
I read this whole thing and have no idea how it relates to Stefanski other than that he used to work for the Vikings.
Regardless, Stefanski needs to draw up an offense for the 21st century instead of his 20th century offense.
Regardless, Stefanski needs to draw up an offense for the 21st century instead his 20th century offense.
Everything is cyclical - wait long enough and we will be cutting edge.
I read this whole thing and have no idea how it relates to Stefanski other than that he used to work for the Vikings.
Regardless, Stefanski needs to draw up an offense for the 21st century instead of his 20th century offense.
Stefanski's offense is the exact same offense the 49ers, Packers, Rams, Titans, and Falcons run.
Well "exact same" is not true/accurate.... the concept might be the same. The principals on which it is based might be the same. But they are not duplicates. The other difference is how the plays are called and managed - which is most definitely not the same. I have not seen enough Falcons or TN games to say - but 49ers, Pack and Rams all call WAY more aggressive game plans than KS does. That's significant and has a tremendous impact..... To be fair, the injury to Baker and the team this year truly impacted what plays we were able to call. I've said it elsewhere - I think all of us under-appreciate just how badly the entire team was hit and what difference it made.
Well "exact same" is not true/accurate.... the concept might be the same. The principals on which it is based might be the same. But they are not duplicates. The other difference is how the plays are called and managed - which is most definitely not the same. I have not seen enough Falcons or TN games to say - but 49ers, Pack and Rams all call WAY more aggressive game plans than KS does. That's significant and has a tremendous impact..... To be fair, the injury to Baker and the team this year truly impacted what plays we were able to call. I've said it elsewhere - I think all of us under-appreciate just how badly the entire team was hit and what difference it made.
You are correct. I should have said system instead of offense. As for aggressiveness, I don't know if that is true. Rams and 49ers fans are always complaining about Shanahan and McVay being too conservative. The Packers have Rodgers so they are in a completely different class with regards to basically everything.
It's same/similar offense as San Francisco runs.
Where (I think) they run circles around us in terms of offensive identity is playcalling. Another similarity is that the 9ers have also tended to fall apart when the injury bug hits.
Well "exact same" is not true/accurate.... the concept might be the same. The principals on which it is based might be the same. But they are not duplicates. The other difference is how the plays are called and managed - which is most definitely not the same. I have not seen enough Falcons or TN games to say - but 49ers, Pack and Rams all call WAY more aggressive game plans than KS does. That's significant and has a tremendous impact..... To be fair, the injury to Baker and the team this year truly impacted what plays we were able to call. I've said it elsewhere - I think all of us under-appreciate just how badly the entire team was hit and what difference it made.
You are correct. I should have said system instead of offense. As for aggressiveness, I don't know if that is true. Rams and 49ers fans are always complaining about Shanahan and McVay being too conservative. The Packers have Rodgers so they are in a completely different class with regards to basically everything.
The wide-zone scheme is extremely QB friendly and you are right that the Packers with Rodgers are the standard. While the scheme is QB friendly, the play-calling is limited by what the QB can do. Rodgers can make every throw, throw off platform and create out of structure. Guys like Goff and Garoppolo limit the ceiling for the offense and there's good reason both teams looked to upgrade the QB position with the 49ers drafting Trey Lance and the Rams trading for Stafford. Stafford can make throws that Goff could never make.
The Titans have done a great job getting everything they can out of Tannehill and he may be maxed out on how far he can take the team. I don't think anyone thinks he can lead them to a Super Bowl, but he can win some games in the playoffs.
The system can make below average QBs look average, average QBs look good, good QBs look great and great QBs elite. It certainly maximizes the position.
Good read on the teams that you've mentioned and the use of the wide-zone scheme...
https://web.northeastern.edu/gamepl...test-new-offensive-scheme-so-successful/
The point is the scheme is wrong or if you won't accept that then the play calling is horrid. None of the teams listed except for TEN can match the Browns run offense. Every one of those teams including SFO has a better pass offense. The Browns offense is predictable and does not get adjusted no matter the circumstances. Now the Browns have one of the weakest WR groups in the entire NFL with Landry being the top PFF receiver for the Browns at #73 out of a 131 WR's rated. The lack of use of our TE's skill sets has given the Browns one of the poorest TE receiving groups in the NFL. This all falls on Stefanski's shoulders who was mentored by Zimmer., Stefanski has taken Zimmer's scheme and enhanced it to the point the Browns passing game is now in the bottom 25% of the league. All this with a QB that broke Peyton Mannings rookie record for TD's. Mayfield's pass attempts have dropped each year since Stefanski arrived. It's impossible to have a chemistry with your WR's and TE's when you're reducing the number of attempts each year which has a tremendous impact on the accuracy of the passing game and actually goes against the wide-zone scheme when playing 2 and 3 TE sets as much as the Browns do under Stefanski.
I read this whole thing and have no idea how it relates to Stefanski other than that he used to work for the Vikings.
Regardless, Stefanski needs to draw up an offense for the 21st century instead of his 20th century offense.
Stefanski's offense is the exact same offense the 49ers, Packers, Rams, Titans, and Falcons run.
Well, I guess we are in the playoffs like the 49ers, Rams & Titans are.
Falcons didn't quite make it, but I'm sure that was just an anomaly.
Thanks for your help.
Yeah, we should have been throwing a lot more this year with an injured QB.
This is pretty big news within our division. Let’s hope they screw the hire up (they won’t).
That's insane. He's a great DC, and did a great job with much of his defense on IR.
He’s great. Starting over on defense when we finally have continuity doesn’t seem wise.
He’s great. Starting over on defense when we finally have continuity doesn’t seem wise.
But I want chaos when we're on defense. The good kind, where it happens to the
other team, not us.
He’s great. Starting over on defense when we finally have continuity doesn’t seem wise.
But I want chaos when we're on defense. The good kind, where it happens to the
other team, not us.
Starting over from scratch with a completely different scheme that doesn’t fit our personnel doesn’t seem like it would create the right kind of chaos.
I'm willing to be educated on that. It just seems like we could implement a version of that kind of defense with players like Koramoah, Phillips, and Delpit.
This would be trading up from our current DC, Woods, for sure. I think he got the minimum this defense was capable of this year. And I would really like somebody that knows how to blitz going forward.
You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland.
This seems like a wise move for them to make.
Especially if they want to bring Rodgers and Adams along, too.
Especially if they want to bring Rodgers and Adams along, too.
(That was my point.)
Adams isn’t going anywhere. The Packers will either sign him to an extension or franchise him. He especially isn’t going anywhere with Rodgers because whoever trades for Rodgers will be giving up several first round picks to get him.
That's insane. He's a great DC, and did a great job with much of his defense on IR.
He was only there a few years.. I thought Ravens D was pretty tough, so what was the problem.. Issues between Wink and the HC? My first question is, does he bring more baggage than he's worth? Honestly, I don't know the answer,, But by all outward appearances, he's a hell of a coach....
Especially if they want to bring Rodgers and Adams along, too.
(That was my point.)
Adams isn’t going anywhere. The Packers will either sign him to an extension or franchise him. He especially isn’t going anywhere with Rodgers because whoever trades for Rodgers will be giving up several first round picks to get him.
His cap hit is 46 mill in 2022 if he stays and his dead cap is 26 mill if he is traded prior to June 1. After, June 1 it's 19.2 mill in 2022 and $7.7 million in 2023. The league's new year starts march 16th at pm. (they have to be under the cap at this moment)
The draft is April 20-30
no one will trade several picks for Rodgers in June. They may trade a late-round pick in June.
He really has GB by the cheese because it is after the draft or free agency will want to trade 2023 assets for him. Plus, he won' have the offseason to learn an offense and a GM won't have time to draft players to make a run for the SB.
whoever wrote this deal really was very intentional and a total savage.
I could see Rodgers retiring after the draft on May 1 because he would really, really stick it to GB
I once thought that the Stafford deal would ever happen.. Shocked the hell out of me. So does that mean anything is possible? I think so
Teams have been willing to eat dead cap way more than ever before the last couple of seasons.
You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland.
If WOODS is the best coach we have, blow it all up now. smdh. Woods sucks. The talent is there, that's what you saw. Now we need a DC that knows how to use it and BLITZ.
You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland.
If WOODS is the best coach we have, blow it all up now. smdh. Woods sucks. The talent is there, that's what you saw. Now we need a DC that knows how to use it and BLITZ.
🤦♂️
You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland.
If WOODS is the best coach we have, blow it all up now. smdh. Woods sucks. The talent is there, that's what you saw. Now we need a DC that knows how to use it and BLITZ.
🤦♂️
What is that?
You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland.
If WOODS is the best coach we have, blow it all up now. smdh. Woods sucks. The talent is there, that's what you saw. Now we need a DC that knows how to use it and BLITZ.
🤦♂️
What is that?
Two square boxes on my screen.
You want to replace the most productive coach we have on the coaching staff. Only in Cleveland.
If WOODS is the best coach we have, blow it all up now. smdh. Woods sucks. The talent is there, that's what you saw. Now we need a DC that knows how to use it and BLITZ.
🤦♂️
What is that?
Two square boxes on my screen.
Facepalm emoji!
Oh great, cfrs is in minimalist mode. Words are too expensive.
This seems like a wise move for them to make.
What's a Nat Hackett??? excuse my ignorance but who the heck is this guy???
I am guessing Sean Payton is going to the broadcast booth with Al Michaels and Troy Aikman both likely to go to to Amazon to broadcast Thursday Night Football games.
He'll make as much or more in the booth without all the headache.
I am guessing Sean Paytonis going to the broadcast booth with Al Michaels and Troy Aikman both likely to go to to Amazon to broadcast Thursday Night Football games.
He'll make as much or more in the booth without all the headache.
j/c:
The optics of this are rather funny for a few reasons. That said, he's probably been interviewed 11 times already, though.
If Williams takes it, I bet he does well.
If Williams takes it, I bet he does well.
If Williams takes it, like teams are banging down the door to hire him for any position let alone head coach.
(Also, it’s a parody account. No one is hiring Gregg Williams because he is a terrible coach and person.)
Didn't realize it's a parody account, but I thought Williams would make a good head coach. Meh. And if he takes it has nothing to do with rather they are or aren't knocking his door down. Guess now I have to keep up with NFL parody accounts too. As if Devin Nunes Cow wasn't enough, smdh.
What's a Nat Hackett??? excuse my ignorance but who the heck is this guy???
Copyright Infringement eo....
Williams seems like the kind of coach that can come in and do really well, but can't seem to sustain it. In all honesty, he could be a good get for someone like the Jags (or a team that's looking to turn the corner.
Hope he does well... always liked Leftwich
That's very cool. And, man, he and Vrabel sure are fast-risers, aren't they??!!
Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
Former Colts’ defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus is being hired as the head coach of the Chicago Bears, per sources.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1486728596987133963
Former Browns linebackers coach.
So, as far as I know, we are looking for a Defensive Line Coach. Unless they were to add a co-defensive coordinator tag to that, I seriously doubt we have a shot at Martindale. And maybe even not then. HOWEVER, Wink is more of a LB coach has been his whole career for the most part. So not sure it is the best fit anyway. The news that I have heard is that the Ravens and Martindale could not come to terms with an extension...
So who are/should we be looking at to replace Kiffin at DL coach????
So, as far as I know, we are looking for a Defensive Line Coach. Unless they were to add a co-defensive coordinator tag to that, I seriously doubt we have a shot at Martindale. And maybe even not then. HOWEVER, Wink is more of a LB coach has been his whole career for the most part. So not sure it is the best fit anyway. The news that I have heard is that the Ravens and Martindale could not come to terms with an extension...
So who are/should we be looking at to replace Kiffin at DL coach????
I'd bet that Woods and Stefanski both have their own short lists and Berry is going over them.
I wouldn't be shocked in the least if whomever it is comes from either the Minnesota or 49ers... or, perhaps someone from his time in Denver when he was the D-Coord there. They had a pretty stout defense there in Denver and I could easily see Woods wanting someone that came up through the ranks under Bill Kollar, who has been the DLine Coach there since 2015, and has learned the ins and outs of how he coaches.
Getting someone they have a history with and is familiar with our system makes the most sense by far.
https://www.vikings.com/team/coaches-roster/andre-patterson^ This guy makes some sense. He was in Minnesota with Stefanski. He also coached for the Browns in 03-04.
That's weird......didn't Michigan last year hire a coach from the ravens?
I don't know. After looking yes, they hired the Ravens RB coach last season and made him their QB coach.
Michigan dips into Ravens well again, hires a new QB coach
https://wolverineswire.usatoday.com...ore-ravens-rb-coach-matt-weiss-qb-coach/
That's weird......didn't Michigan last year hire a coach from the ravens?
The Harbaughs have been stealing coaches from each other for years.
Ah, just over a year ago Michigan hired Macdonald from the ravens. He was a linebacker coach for the ravens.
So, now the ravens hired him back.
https://mgoblue.com/news/2021/1/17/...med-michigans-defensive-coordinator.aspx
They hired Matt Weiss away from Michigan this year. It was in the article. Two different coaches.
YOUR link, here:
https://sports.yahoo.com/baltimore-ravens-expected-hire-michigans-193924220.html says Baltimore hired Michigans def. coordinator to be their d.c. Mike Macdonald.
My link, here:https://mgoblue.com/news/2021/1/17/football-mike-macdonald-named-michigans-defensive-coordinator.aspx says the Ravens hired him back - Mike Macdonald.
https://mgoblue.com/news/2021/1/17/...med-michigans-defensive-coordinator.aspxWhat am I missing?
For him to go back to the ravens though, makes me question Jim's being back at Michigan next year.
Michigan hiring Ravens RB coach Matt Weiss as new QB coach February 21, 2021 9:25 am ET
https://ravenswire.usatoday.com/202...ens-rb-coach-matt-weiss-as-new-qb-coach/You are right in the fact that McDonald had been with the Ravens for seven years before being hired as Michigan's DC and then returning to the Ravens for that same position in the NFL. My bad.
That's feb. 21, of 2021.
What I was talking about was Mike Macdonald. Hired by Michigan from the ravens just a tad over a year ago, and being rehired by the ravens just now.
Are we sure he was rehired?
Crazy that Daboll went from our crappy offensive coordinator to a head coach.
He'll maybe last about three years because he doesn't have QB.
Funny how the best coaches also have the best QBs.
Are we sure he was rehired?
I don't know. I'm just going by the news.
https://sports.yahoo.com/baltimore-ravens-expected-hire-michigans-193924220.html"The Baltimore Ravens hired Michigan defensive coordinator Mike Macdonald for their vacant defensive coordinator position, the team announced Thursday night."
Date of that article: Michael Cohen, Detroit Free Press
Thu, January 27, 2022, 10:47 PM
If that's been changed, redacted, whatever, sue me. I'm posting what the media says. Period.
He'll maybe last about three years because he doesn't have QB.
Funny how the best coaches also have the best QBs.
No kidding... Josh Allen to Daniel Jones... yuck
Can we really trust the media at this point?
Hell if I know. I posted an article. A damn article, okay pit/verse whoever else? I didn't write the damn thing.
1. The source Grossi is reposting is not legit at all.
2. We would have to let Callahan out of his contract for him to leave.
He'll maybe last about three years because he doesn't have QB.
Funny how the best coaches also have the best QBs.
For sure. No wonder Stefanski won Coach of the year last season.
Stefanski may be gone in three years as well because well...he doesn't have a QB.
Wow man, really? I said you were right and I'm not quite sure how much more obvious I could have made it than by posting this in response to you......
You are right in the fact that McDonald had been with the Ravens for seven years before being hired as Michigan's DC and then returning to the Ravens for that same position in the NFL. My bad.
LOL Grossi blocked me because I said MKC hit rock bottom... below Grossi's feet when she started getting quotes from her son.
Grossi has paper-thin skin.
1. The source Grossi is reposting is not legit at all.
2. We would have to let Callahan out of his contract for him to leave.
That about sums it up.
The only way around it would be if they threw the Assistant Head Coach title at him. I *think* that counts as a promotion and would circumvent the normal protections.
Still, they'd have to pay him plenty to make him choose to leave, I think, and he'd be burning a bridge.
They only promotion is to head coach. Everything else is a lateral move. He can’t leave unless we let him leave.
And what I didn't say last night/yesterday.........was with MacDonald leaving Michigan for baltimore, I wonder what the vibes are for Harbaugh in Michigan. I guess this answers it?
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...gh-for-head-coaching-vacancy-per-report/
j/c:
This surprises me. I guess I thought McDaniels would be the heir apparent in NE. I suppose LV giving him full reign to do whatever he wants (like in Denver) was a factor. The first go-around at this didn't go so well. But he's older and wiser (hopefully for his sake).
When full details come out, I'd be interested to see what McDaniels' role will be regarding personnel.
I just saw this. This should be interesting to watch unfold. It does make sense though since the Raiders hired Dave Ziegler as their new GM. These two both came from the Patriots and have a history.
Much like yourself I was surprised to hear it at first until I considered the Dave Ziegler connection.
Most likely means Derek Carr won't be available since both McDaniel and Ziegler reportedly have a high opinion of him.
https://fansided.com/2022/01/29/raiders-josh-mcdaniels-rumors-derek-carr-impact/
And I think for good reason, honestly. I don't think he is the a top 5 QB or anything but I think he is undervalued. And if a guy like McDaniels claims to be able to use him and elevate his performance....that means something. Again, this whole thing is interesting...
Who will be the OC now?
Will McDaniels poach from the NE offensive staff?
Carr's contract is up at the end of this season. What if he does deliver?
What is McDaniels role outside of coaching?
Did Davis give him a 10-year contract?
If Rex said it, then I know this will end badly.
I feel like Ohio duos happen often. Could be wrong.
Even though the Colts incident was a fiasco, McDanials did a tremendous job assembling that staff. Both coordinators, Nick Sirianni Philadelphia Eagles and Matt Eberflus Chicago Bears, are now head coaches in the NFL.
If I made a list of coaches I was worried about losing (both in terms of demand as well as needing their performance back next season), the passing game coordinator probably would be near (if not at) the bottom.
I see Ken Dorsey will be the Bills new OC.
I was kind of hoping we would hire him to a role on our coaching staff even though I knew it was unrealistic.
Joe Brady got interviews last year to be a head coach and was the next genius. This seems like a pretty big step down. It’s great for the Bills though.
"One source"= Harbaugh, himself.....or maybe Michigan alum, Adam Schefter.
More slumber parties w/ recruits!
Just imagine the recruits thoughts...............he's going. Oh, he's not. This year.
We’re up to three former Browns assistants getting head coaching jobs this off-season (O’Connell, Eberflus, and Daboll) with three jobs still open. If Mike McDaniels gets the Dolphins job, which it seems like he will, then that will make it four.
Should have stuck with Rich... that guy did an amazing job and had the respect of the locker room
I was shocked he was interviewing... finally seems to have UM going the right direction and he's thinking of jumping ship?!?
I was shocked he was interviewing... finally seems to have UM going the right direction and he's thinking of jumping ship?!?
He probably thinks last season was a one-off and it's time to get out on a high note. He caught the Buckeyes with a very, very young team while he had a very experienced team at home.
Chad O’Shea, our receivers coach, was mentioned as a possibility for this job.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jaguars-to-name-doug-pederson-as-teams-new-head-coach/The Jacksonville Jaguars have announced Doug Peterson as their next head coach. CBS Sport NFL Insider Jason La Canfora confirmed the reports earlier on Thursday night. The 54-year-old coach and former NFL quarterback led the Eagles to the franchise's first Super Bowl at the end of the 2017 season. Pederson will become the Jaguars' third head coach in as many seasons.
Philadelphia's coach from 2016-20, Pederson went 42-37-1 regular season and 4-2 in the postseason during that span. In 2017, Pederson led the Eagles to a 13-3 regular season record. Philadelphia then defeated New England 41-33 in Super Bowl LIII behind an MVP performance from backup quarterback Nick Foles. The Eagles then posted consecutive 9-7 seasons before stumbling to a 4-11-1 record in 2020. Pederson was fired after the 2020 season and did not coach this past season.
A high school coach from 2005-08, Pederson joined Andy Reid's coaching staff in Philadelphia in 2009. He quickly ascended from a control coach to the team's quarterbacks coach 2011. He followed Reid to Kanas City in 2013, serving as the Chiefs' offensive coordinator from 2013-15.
Pederson enjoyed a 10-year NFL career that included seven seasons as Brett Favre's backup quarterback in Green Bay. He won a Super Bowl in 1996 while working with Favre and Reid, who served as the Packers' quarterbacks coach.
Pederson will take over a Jaguars franchise that has endured four consecutive losing seasons after making it to the AFC Championship Game in 2017. Jacksonville went 3-14 last season after firing Urban Meyer after a 1-12 start. For a second straight year, the Jaguars have the No. 1 pick in the 2021 draft. Our CBS Sports NFL Draft experts have the Jaguars taking either Michigan pass rusher Aidan Hutchinson, Alabama offensive lineman Evan Neal or Oregon pass rusher Kayvon Thibodeaux with the first overall pick.
What happened that got Pederson fired in Philly? Was it the end of Wentz's time there that did him in? I don't follow the Eagles at all, but my recollection is that he was a pretty decent coach that won a SB with his backup QB.
I believe he was having some disagreements with the front office. Also, the offense went down the tube when Frank Reich left (I think).
I can't believe we're doing the 2021 Draft again this year.
I must have been mistaken. I didn't think they were allowed to announce these HC hires until after the SB.
I can't believe we're doing the 2021 Draft again this year.
The editor must’ve been asleep. Peterson instead of Pederson too.
I must have been mistaken. I didn't think they were allowed to announce these HC hires until after the SB.
They are allowed unless the head coach works for one of the teams in the Super Bowl. That’s why the Vikings haven’t officially announced their hiring of Kevin O’Connell yet.
Well, if he gets the job, it will be short lived if he goes out there and coaches the way he coached in Cleveland. I'm sure McDaniels' would be overjoyed watching his Pro Bowl TE Waller's targets drop 50% year over year and Waller's step or more separation against a man defense drop to below 30%. Obviously, something is missing when you're looking at a TE coach for OC coming from run first scheme going to a team with a new head coach that runs a spread offense with their top receiver being the TE position with a gun slinger QB. Seems like oil and water trying to mix but we'll see...............
You really need to figure out who it is you're going to blame for the offense. You keep spreading the love around like every member of the coaching staff had a say in the system we run or how it wasn't limited due to Baker's injury. It does make for a rather humorous read though.
I find it interesting that two of our assistant coaches are being mentioned/interviewed for NFL OC positions, but you-know-who won't let anyone else have a sniff at play-calling in Cleveland.
So you're trying to insinuate our position coaches should be calling the plays?
I find it interesting that two of our assistant coaches are being mentioned/interviewed for NFL OC positions, but you-know-who won't let anyone else have a sniff at play-calling in Cleveland.
Another perspective would be that Stefanski is developing his coaches to the point where other teams want them. Or are you suggesting the tight ends coach should be calling plays?
Again, we had a very successful run game. Our receivers were open a bunch. The offense was great last year with Stefanski calling plays. Why anyone would think the person calling the plays on the day of games should step down is an argument I don’t understand.
(Chad O’Shea got the interview with the Giants because he and Daboll have the Belichick connection and he called plays for the Dolphins.)
Yeah, I wouldn't read much into these things, especially on teams with new HC trying to put together a staff. Past relationships will mean more than experience.
Yeah, I wouldn't read much into these things, especially on teams with new HC trying to put together a staff. Past relationships will mean more than experience.
Past relationships are king... it's not What you know, but Who you know. Beyond that, it's pretty much as simple as we just have some really good, smart, people on this staff.
It has nothing to do with playcalling or anything else; these guys are just good, and smart.... and, contrary to the beliefs in some over-analyzed threads around here, having smart people around is a Very Good Thing.
DAWG, come on, you're not really that single focused with blinders on are you?
Stefanski ran the scheme because - duh he was calling the plays. Each of the positions normally have position coaches. Now if the TE's suck, it would be a normal assumption that the axe should fall to that coach before the head coach. If it doesn't - then who do you think is responsible? I mean it's pretty common knowledge that you get what you accept so if the TE coach is still in Cleveland than Stefanski is obviously ok with them not having a single TE that could get a step or more separation against man defense more than 30% of the time. I don't know, I suspect when you have an injured QB and you change the scheme to where almost 50% of the plays are run with 2 and 3 TE sets that when you pass out of those sets you aren't actually doing your injured QB any favors when the TE's you flooded on the filed can't get separation in man defense more than 30% of the time.
I don't disagree that Baker's injury limited some of what the Browns could do. I don't disagree that Mayfield has things to work on because he does. Stefanski's scheme did not put Mayfield into situations where he could be successful. Add into that fact that Chubb and Hunt missed games, the offensive line was pieced together, the WR group had a terrible year, and as stated above - Mayfield didn't get a lot of help from his TE group.
Now contrary to a lot of posts on this forum, I have never asked for a change at Head Coach like hundreds of posts want to crucify and replace Mayfield not taking into account any of the other issues. What I have posted is that the scheme needs to change and Stefanski needs to give up the play calling. I think they need a dedicated QB coach and a 21st century Offensive Coordinator. I think that the TE Coach and WR Coach did not pull their weight this year and it had a serious impact on the team. Now all of these things can be fixed but it takes willing partners and that part I'm not sure of but this off season will tell a lot not only about 2022 Browns but the many years that follow.
Are the Ravens planning a teardown?
Wow, between this and the Hue news, a certain poster on here must be having a really bad week.
“SASHI BROWN WILL NEVER WORK IN THE NFL AGAIN!”
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Are the Ravens planning a teardown?
Ravens are very analytical, so adding Sashi fits their agenda. I think it's a good hire.
Hue Jackson's lack of understanding of the analytical game bought down the whole front office.
Analytically speaking, Sashi Brown, Andrew Berry, and Sean McDermott would have been an interesting group. It's too bad Jimmy Haslam would not listen to his staff. It took a few years, I think Kevin Stefanski is a great alternative for Sean. We just lost Sashi replacement to Minnesota.
“SASHI BROWN WILL NEVER WORK IN THE NFL AGAIN!”
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I don't recall who it is - but someone has had a standing joke about Sashi never being employed by an NFL team ever again ... and now he's going to one of the best run organizations in the NFL. Be interesting to see how he performs. Wouldn't be the first time someone cut their teeth with us and then went on to do good things elsewhere.
I don't recall who it is - but someone has had a standing joke about Sashi never being employed by an NFL team ever again ...
Pitiful....
Another aspect Haslem should have taken blame for.....choosing Hue over Sashi/the plan.
Another aspect Haslem should have taken blame for.....choosing Hue over Sashi/the plan.
Yep. There was a real possibility Sashi would have promoted Berry to his role at the time of GM with Sashi moving on to team President. It all worked. Just took longer and cost Haslam $10M+ to learn a tough lesson.
This will make a couple people's head explode.
The Ravens FO has always been very solid. I bet they had their eye on Shashi and were just waiting for Dick Cass to retire.
I honestly don't remember who it was or what the signature said. I see there is a whole thread on this now. Guess we'll see..
Hue should have came out with his claims a day earlier, on 1-31.
Hue should have came out with his claims a day earlier, on 1-31.
I was thinking February 2, Ground Hog Day!
Hue should have came out with his claims a day earlier, on 1-31.
I was thinking February 2, Ground Hog Day!
Groundhog Day would have been good for the Sashi Brown announcement. Sashi Wars makes Couch vs Holcomb into a lovefest (in terms of duration).
Supposedly McDaniels is a minority hire (looks as white-bread as can be, but ok).
Four former Browns assistants and potentially two former Browns QBs (Doug Pederson and Josh McCown). Browns are taking over!
I remember when Mike McDaniel was the Browns WR coach and he flew out to Vegas on a private jet with a bunch of players after their final game and Josh Gordon got hit with a 1 year suspension for boozing on the flight upon testing after they landed, lol.
Wow, good memory remembering it was McDonald
They should just re-hire David Culley at this point. Now they’re just going to have to pay Lovie to not coach in two years.
Wow, good memory remembering it was McDonald
There is a picture somewhere out there of all of the guys on the private jet.
Supposedly McDaniels is a minority hire (looks as white-bread as can be, but ok).
Not supposedly.
Lol, Hawk bringing receipts, that's hilarious.
I wasn't trying to be nasty or anything. I was just pointing out that he doesn't look much different than me, and I'm an OH-born, hockey-playing engineer. I'm about as white as you can get.
Supposedly McDaniels is a minority hire (looks as white-bread as can be, but ok).
Not supposedly.
bad link. 1490525418721452038? it's not even a link.
Supposedly McDaniels is a minority hire (looks as white-bread as can be, but ok).
Not supposedly.
bad link. 1490525418721452038? it's not even a link.
You sure?
Our old friend Frisman has a job with the Steelers.
Steelers hire Frisman Jackson as receivers coach - ProFootballTalk
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/08/steelers-hire-frisman-jackson-as-receivers-coach/
Interesting. I had no idea he was even coaching in the NFL, much less doing so since 2017 with the Titans and Panthers. Good for him, except when it comes to the Win/Loss column.
That, or leaving to be a 'co-defensive coordinator' didn't sound so great after a little bit.
That, or leaving to be a 'co-defensive coordinator' didn't sound so great after a little bit.
Those type of titles happen all the time in college.
Imagine going from coaching Myles Garrett to begging a 16 year old to talk to a car salesman who is willing to pay him to play at Ole Miss.
That, or leaving to be a 'co-defensive coordinator' didn't sound so great after a little bit.
Those type of titles happen all the time in college.
Imagine going from coaching Myles Garrett to begging a 16 year old to talk to a car salesman who is willing to pay him to play at Ole Miss.
while working for your older brother...
Hue said, “Who can I hire to make me seem like a good guy by comparison?”
Wonder why the delay? They could have announced this Monday as it seemed to be a done deal then.
Maybe the noise about McVay retiring if they won? O'Connell thinking maybe he could take the reins there?
Wonder why the delay? They could have announced this Monday as it seemed to be a done deal then.
Maybe the noise about McVay retiring if they won? O'Connell thinking maybe he could take the reins there?
The internets said they were finishing contract details and O’Connell wanted to go to the parade.
My guess is Petzing goes to QB coach and AVP becomes just the OC.
My guess is Petzing goes to QB coach and AVP becomes just the OC.
My guess is Petzing goes to QB coach and AVP becomes just the OC.
This cfrs15 guy might know what he’s talking about!
He usually does.
Tom really wanted the extra practice time from a team having a new coach to get extra work in with Gage, so Bruce had to go.
I'm actually not sure if they get the early start with an internal hire or not. Will they get the comp picks for hiring and/or having a minority hired?
Tom Brady set to retire again?
I wonder if Arians did something wrong?
Tom Brady set to retire again?
I wonder if Arians did something wrong?
Rumors has it that Brady and Arians had an icy relationship.
Why wouldn't they select Leftwich as the new head coach? Something stinks here - Leftwich was supposedly the golden child and now he gets passed over by the team that's groomed him?
Why wouldn't they select Leftwich as the new head coach? Something stinks here - Leftwich was supposedly the golden child and now he gets passed over by the team that's groomed him?
Maybe he isn't all that good? I agree, he seems pretty solid.
Maybe they want someone else to sign him so that get two 3rd round comp picks? You don't get picks if it is a internal hire, and that makes sense.
My guess is because Bowles has HC experience, and Tampa does not want the growing pains of a first year HC when they are built to win NOW and have only this year probably to accomplish it.
And honestly, for all the love Leftwich has gotten during the last 2 years, you have to wonder how much was Leftwich and how much was Brady, I am sure the team knows.
j/c:
I have different takes on Arians retiring.
--First and foremost, I give BA a ton of credit for how he was always so willing to embrace diversity in the work place. I'm pretty sure he hired the first female assistant coachi in the NFL. I know he hired a lot of black men. Hell, both his coordinators in TB are black men.
--I heard about the supposed rift between Brady and BA, but I don't think Tom forced him out. I think BA chose to retire now rather than at the end of the season for two reasons. The first was that there was obviously a lot of chaos surrounding the organization w/Brady's announced retirement. I believe that BA didn't want to add to that mess. I also believe that he really wanted Bowles to succeed him and felt this was the best way to go about it.
--I also think Bowles got the job over Leftwich because he has prior HC experience and is familiar w/the Patriot way, which should make Brady more comfortable. I also think that some of their defensive talent might come back now that Bowles is the HC. Leftwich has a solid shot of becoming a HC next year and let's face it......going to Jax this year was not an ideal situation for a first-time HC>
I am not sure why Bowles would be familiar with how the Patriots operate. Because he was the Jets head coach?
...How is Bowles familiar with the Patriot way? There could be a link, I'm just not seeing it.
I think the ages and history played into it. Bowles is 58 and had been HC twice before without much success (Jets and Dolphins interim.) The teams he had to work with were definitely a factor in that lack of success. He probably wasn't going to get many more shots as an HC and almost definitely not for a team with recent success. Leftwich is only 42. He'll have plenty of future opportunities (or at least, one would think, time for opportunities,) and could potentially even replace Bowles down the line.
Didn't Tom remove himself from the whole 'Patiot Way' thing?
Didn't Tom remove himself from the whole 'Patiot Way' thing?
Yes. He is about the TB12 way and has been for years.
I am not sure why Bowles would be familiar with how the Patriots operate. Because he was the Jets head coach?
He coached for the Browns for four seasons, that was after BB. 2001-2004. There maybe a connection somewhere, not sure though.
I am not sure why Bowles would be familiar with how the Patriots operate. Because he was the Jets head coach?
Hmmm........I thought he had ties to them. I apologize if I was wrong.
I will say that I thought my two points about BA helping w/diversity and taking care of one of his guys was far more important than the Patriot way or the Leftwich takes.
LOL.........I actually thought I made a really good post that would get people to think about how BA is a special man. I guess not....
I am not sure why Bowles would be familiar with how the Patriots operate. Because he was the Jets head coach?
Hmmm........I thought he had ties to them. I apologize if I was wrong.
I will say that I thought my two points about BA helping w/diversity and taking care of one of his guys was far more important than the Patriot way or the Leftwich takes.
LOL.........I actually thought I made a really good post that would get people to think about how BA is a special man. I guess not....
You may be thinking of Brian Flores. It was the first thing I thought when they announced Bowles was the new head coach. I'm thinking it was odd Tampa hired him away from Pittsburgh and nothing was mentioned. Then I realized I was thinking of the wrong person.
I always liked BA. It was good seeing Bowles get the job too.
there had to have been some obvious beef between Brady and Arians, even if it’s not the only reason he’s “retiring”
Bowles is a decent choice to fill in there. Truthfully, it doesn’t matter who the coach is when Brady is there
maybe. My guess it is a little easier on Arians health in thew FO.
maybe. My guess it is a little easier on Arians health in thew FO.
Yeah thats true