It went pretty much how I thought it would. We kept it closer than I thought though, towards the end. Coleman blew it, but even if he caught it there was potential for disaster (like an interception/whatnot) after that, so... you know.
The youngest player in the league ate our lunch. He didn't seem to have much trouble and with a nearly entire second team offense! It's a young man's game and either our young men stink or are ill prepared.
I see 0-16 next year as well, especially if Hue is back.
In Sashi's departing shot, he said something to the effect of "I'll be smiling when the Browns turn it around". Well, I hope he was watching Coleman on that last play. And smiling. What a buffoon.
I see no hope for the future. Rosen doesn't want to play here and is injury prone. Darnold, don't know what people see in that guy. I've never seen the guy execute one professional concept and I watched about 4 games. He's a project. Everyone else is also a project. The forced marriage of Hue and Dorsey is doomed for disaster. Haslam still owns the team and is involved with day to day team business. No, 0-16 is a real possibility next year.
Coleman isn't the reason why we lost the game. He's also not the reason the Browns are 0-16, but when will Browns players make an important, impact play. These guys are supposed to be professionals. The NFL should dismantle the team, send the players off to other teams, and go to 31 NFL teams.
The youngest player in the league ate our lunch. He didn't seem to have much trouble and with a nearly entire second team offense! It's a young man's game and either our young men stink or are ill prepared.
I wouldn't feel too badly about that, the kid is going to be amazing. He just put up 193 yards on somebody a few weeks ago.
A good game and about what I expected. But Cleveland's offense did carve up the Steelers D more than I was expecting. Obviously, the key mistakes a crucial times killed them.
There's no reason to fully break down this entire game.
I am glad this season is over. I will not be renewing my subscription to Sunday Ticket. I don't really watch all the other games, the Browns being horrible definitely puts me off, but it's just not worth the money. I am going to try and invest in a firestick or some other option for next season. Last year I paid all kinds of money, and the only time I saw a win, I was in Cleveland, and not even using my subscription. This year? Well you know the rest.
Deshone Kizer played a good game. As the broadcasters said, only Heyward was left out of the lineup for the defense. He held his own. That's nice, but as a whole, Kizer's season wasn't good enough, even for a rookie, and some of that is by his own fault, but a lot of that lies on his coach, who is supposed to be really good with quarterbacks.
I love Duke Johnson. Yeah, that fumble as on him (heck ofa play by the db though), but he's fun to watch. You can really tell how good he is by the respect he gets from the opposition. Seems like he is respected by the entire league.
Our pass rush needs to be better. The defense had no excuse today. Pittsburgh sat all their good offense players aside from JuJu.
I know JH has been firm with keeping Hue, but I just don't buy it. I do buy that maybe they are bluffing with trying to get Cincinnati to make an offer, but they really just need to stop worrying about a damn draft pick, and let the guy go, and do a full search, and let your damn GM do his job.
This whole coach reporting to owner, GM being an almost equal to the coach doesn't work when you are as bad we are. I think there needs to be an Owner>GM>Coach hierarchy until a coach comes here and proves he deserves more than 1 or 2 seasons.
I can't believe we have picks 1 and 4. That's crazy. There is some great talent coming out this spring. The Browns better cash in.
Corey Coleman needs to take a good long look in the mirror and challenge himself to be a better player. I think there is a good player somewhere in there, but I've been underwhelmed, and I think there have been too many red flags with him. This is going to be a huge offseason for him.
I just can not see the progress in the team . It is said that a well coached team gets better and shows progress as the year goes on . I can't see the progress , if anything I see regression in every QB that Hue has coached for us . I just don't see how we can bring Hue back.
I just can not see the progress in the team . It is said that a well coached team gets better and shows progress as the year goes on . I can't see the progress , if anything I see regression in every QB that Hue has coached for us . I just don't see how we can bring Hue back.
Nope.
If this team were losing, but you still saw development, and guys playing good disciplined football, that's one thing, but you are constantly seeing unforced errors, blunders on special teams, and pure stupidity.
I don't really understand what's so great about Hue Jackson. Forget the whole offensive mind thing. I think most of us believe this guy does know offense, and can call plays, but that doesn't mean you should be a head coach. I think most would agree this guy is a pretty good coordinator. Take what you have seen over the last two years, the only positive I can think about with Hue Jackson is that the players seem to love him. But of course they do. They can play undisciplined, and it's still ok.
A lot of fans have thrown around the term "culture of losing" when it has come to the Browns, and I think a lot of those times, that's unfair. I think Mike Pettine did everything he could. Romeo Crennel, respected throughout the league, multiple times super bowl champion as a DC, did everything he could, I don't think those guys built some culture of losing. It just didn't work out.
THIS is a real culture of losing. These guys love coach because he tolerates them not being at their very best. I don't think he challenges his players enough. I don't think he's gotten everything out of his guys.
It's a scary thought that this could continue into next year. Someone within that organization needs to stop Jimmy Haslam from making a horrible mistake.
I just can not see the progress in the team . It is said that a well coached team gets better and shows progress as the year goes on . I can't see the progress , if anything I see regression in every QB that Hue has coached for us . I just don't see how we can bring Hue back.
I do think the Oline gelled nicely as the season progressed, even with the injury to Thomas. Sadly, Hue has not been able to bring along a QB in his system...
Liver did shift right into the teeth of that D, but did you see Telfer? It looked like he was running away from the defender. He disengaged his man and backed right into Crow's lane. Next play he did come all the way across the line and made a tough blitz pickup. But Dang! I don't know why he started every game this year.
no it is not. It is saying we are keeping our offensive and defensive systems in place. it is saying our rookies and 2nd year players will develop and we are adding lots of talent this offseason.
it is saying we have tried firing coaches every 2 years for a decade and it has gotten us nowhere. I am sure no one is satisfied and no one associated with the team thinks it is acceptable.
*I'm disappointed that the Browns joined the Detroit Lions in the 0-16 club. *Mad that the Browns are the ultimate losers and a national joke. *Haslam now known as the most incompetent owner in professional sports. *Haslam's 'money ball' plan was a complete disaster. *Sad that I'm probably more embarrassed about this then Haslam. *Frustrated and angry about having the worst owner in pro sports. *Hoping the Browns are a lot better next season but doubtful.
My post game thoughts. Gregg Williams defense let us down, again. No Ben, Bell, and Brown and we still make Landry look like a very good QB. Once again way too much cusion on the wrs. Poor tackling. Special teams were bad, again. Blocked punt, holding calls, return for td, missed tackles. Since Hue is returning, he needs to think about replacing Tabor and Williams. I though Kiser played his ass off. I know a lot of people on here don't like him but there is no quit in Kiser. I thought Gordon played well as did Higgins and Duke, minus the fumble. Crow was dancing to much, reminded me of Richardson. Coleman was a waste of a 1st round pick. Can't count on him to stay healthy or produce. This was a game we had a good chance to win, kiser made a play to avoid a sack, Coleman drops a pass. Our season in a nut shell. We play like losers. That's a mentality that is hard to break. We need some serious leaders added to this team to change the mentality. That is our major weakness. We have no leaders on this team from owner down to the players.
Greg Williams D did shut them out in the 2nd half, he made some good adjustments, too bad the special teams failed by trying to tickle JuJu instead of tackling him.
2nd year in a row that we couldn't beat the Stealers JV squad on the last day of the season, they tried giving us the game but we didn't want it. A better offense and we run away with this game.
no it is not. It is saying we are keeping our offensive and defensive systems in place. it is saying our rookies and 2nd year players will develop and we are adding lots of talent this offseason.
it is saying we have tried firing coaches every 2 years for a decade and it has gotten us nowhere. I am sure no one is satisfied and no one associated with the team thinks it is acceptable.
Well, you're wrong. You're saying it IS acceptable for a coach to be 0-16 and 0-31 because of the reasons you gave. For that to make sense, we would have had to have the absolute worst roster of talent in NFL history to justify that coaching record. If we didn't have the all time worst roster, "Hue is the historically worst coach in NFL history" would be a correct statement. We've had less talent and gotten more wins since '99. Seeing how he "coached up" the young talent on this team so far, I don't want him anywhere near these high draft picks next year.
My first thought is to call Coleman what he is: another first round draft bust for us. He needs to go. Maybe new scenery might help him. I’d also like to see us pickup another receiver over 6’2”.
Colemen doesn't need to go anywhere. He is not a #1 receiver but he can be good and an asset to the team.
+1 With Coleman, Gordon and Higgins we have a good start at WR now Draft Ridley and get a another WR in FA and we are set. I know some will Question Higgins but after I saw what he could do last Sunday when he finally got targeted I'm sold
Coleman has been disappointing. That doesn't mean he cant improve. It just means he has not performed to his draft status...........just like many of the other guys Sashi drafted.
I am not ready to give up on Coleman yet either. His two seasons have been injury -related and I want to see him and Gordon together with a decent QB. Having said that, I do think we need to draft a WR early in the 2018 draft.
Anyone ever seen the Robin Williams movie, The Best of Times? I wonder if everyone is placing things directly in Coleman's hands. I have very few things to say about the game, but here it is.
WRs can't catch. QB thinks the 'bounce pass' is legal. Defense can't defend a pass, especially a screen. Defense keeps giving up long 3rd downs. The art of tackling is lost. Can't anyone wrap up? Special teams? What's so damn special? Still not sure if our RBs can't find a hole, or if the line can't make them.
Oh well. Wake me for the draft. I haven't had the heart to even watch a game so far this week.