With the two horses we have I don't see why we don't pound it constantly mixing in an occasional pass instead of vice versa. We'd wear dlines down in a half...
On the video for Rookie of the week, one thing that jumped out at me on his 41 yard TD run was how well Higgins was blocking for him downfield, and kept blocking his man for at least 20 yards. Excellent work!
On the 63 yard run, Landry had 2 blocks that sealed the edge for Chubb, allowing him to get outside.Also excellent work!
Nice work by Chubb, but also a great job by the receivers working hard downfield.
We are going to have to pound the ball if we expect to beat some of the good teams we have to play.
Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
with LBers being drafted to cover TEs and RBs why run the ball more and physically wear down the 2nd level with Chubb
Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt
With the two horses we have I don't see why we don't pound it constantly mixing in an occasional pass instead of vice versa. We'd wear dlines down in a half...
The NFL is a passing league now. Pass rushers are worn down by having to rush the passer over and over again. Successful teams pass during the early downs.
The thing that stuck out to me was how he burned Conley when he had the angle on him. I didn't realize Chubb was that fast.
As a SEC fan, I knew he had legs. Glad to see he has them back.
I was thrilled when we drafted him. He has both lightening and thunder. He is on his way to being our lead back. And he should be. Hyde is a really good player, but Chubb has the whole package. Power, speed, and enough wiggle in the open field.
They probably expect Zeke to make some routine blocks, or at least try to.
You see Chubb whiff on that punt a couple weeks ago? And he's also missed blocking assignments. I'm not bashing him, he's a rookie. But he has to show he can be dependable in pass protection.
They probably expect Zeke to make some routine blocks, or at least try to.
You see Chubb whiff on that punt a couple weeks ago? And he's also missed blocking assignments. I'm not bashing him, he's a rookie. But he has to show he can be dependable in pass protection.
Details, man, details.
Don't let him BS you. Zeke is a great blocker. Not adequate. Not mediocre. Not good. He's a great blocker.
It's one of the major reasons he went so high. He can run it, but a lot of guys can. He is also an excellent WR. The amazing thing is that guys like Urban have said he was the best blocking RB he has ever seen.
If he can't block, or won't block, then not only do you need to put someone else back there to do what he SHOULD be doing (eating up one of the eleven bodies you can put on the field), but you also tip off the defense because they know precisely what he is and is NOT going to be doing.
It weakens the entire offense over the long haul. Him actually learning his tradecraft and becoming a viable blocker not only increases his value, but his effectiveness and the effectiveness of the offense as a whole. It is simply part of him earning his spot on the field.
Donovan cracks me up. He's such a homer in the booth, you just gotta love him.
He's awesome as a play by play guy ... Great voice, great personality .. too bad he hasn't had more famous calls because of our ineptitude
Dieken is not a good color guy, despite being a Browns legend .. he's tough to listen to because he steps on Jim's toes during the call
I love Diek, but he seems to be having quite a few, well, we'll just call them "senior moments" when doing the game. Rambling, incoherent, blah, blah, blah... he's lucky we love him so much.
From what I saw when he first came back from his injury he had certainly lost something. But as time went on, he began coming back to form. You are certainly right about Michel being the better back last season at Georgia. But as the season wore on I felt like Chubb was closing the gap. As such, I'm not sure who the better back is now.
I had been wondering why we took Chubb with both Hyde and Johnson on the roster. Now it seems like he was a total BPA pick. He looks to be the real deal.
He still has to be a willing blocker, though. He has to show he will do it. He needs that to be a complete back.
I liked him before he broke the big runs in Oakland, he's definitely got some pop.
Block, schmock. He will do it soon enough.
I'd rather see big gains and yardage out of my backs over their blocking ability. I would never keep him in to block....he would be running or out to enter a pattern.
If you want a blocker, put in another guard at TE.
You act like he should be able to line up at guard. Maybe we should do that, right????
He still has to be a willing blocker, though. He has to show he will do it. He needs that to be a complete back.
I liked him before he broke the big runs in Oakland, he's definitely got some pop.
Block, schmock. He will do it soon enough.
I'd rather see big gains and yardage out of my backs over their blocking ability. I would never keep him in to block....he would be running or out to enter a pattern.
If you want a blocker, put in another guard at TE.
You act like he should be able to line up at guard. Maybe we should do that, right????
I get your reasoning 'Peen, but from a coaching POV there is a little flaw:
A back needs to be in on passing plays so opposing DC's don't pick up on the plays that are designated to the RB. If Chubb only comes in on plays that feature him, the other team will pick up on that before the end of the 1st qtr. Place a spy on Chubb: he's shut down for the rest of the game.
His effectiveness is in the D not knowing if he'll get the ball or not. It forces them to be honest with their coverage and not dedicating a player to him specifically. His presence on every down also helps the play action pass as a secondary benefit, because D's must account for his running ability even if the ball doesn't go to him. That in turn, frees up someone to receiver the pass, with most likely 1-on-1 coverage. That means he MUST develop his blocking game if he wants to see more playing time. Duke's a willing blocker (tho he can whiff from time to time) AND he's great at swing passes out of the backfield. That's why he's seeing more playing time than Chubb. Hyde is a proven 'every down back' who gets stronger as the game gets longer.
Also, placing a guard in at every (or many) passing downs is a dead tip-off, as well. When they see that, they'll just load the opposite side of the line and bull rush the QB on a blitz away from the extra guard.
Chubb will get his turn... but he's got to work his way up the roster. That means doing everything that's asked of him. He's gotta block if he wants to see the field more often.
I would never keep him in to block....he would be running or out to enter a pattern.
You don't always get that luxury.. you send in the play and the personnel but if the defense sends in something different, you change and he has to block..
Nobody is expecting him to be Joe Thomas but he damn sure needs to know how to pick up a blitzer or a rusher and keep his QB upright for a few seconds.. that's all anybody wants him to do.
I hope that every time the home crowd sees Chubb on the field this Sunday, they break into a large chant like the Denver crowd and yell out, "ROOKIE, OF THE WEEK".
I don't know what to do with having good young players.
Fire the coach and the staff so the new regime can come in and determine they don't fit what they want to do and cut them or trade them away for future draft picks... that's been working well.
I don't know what to do with having good young players.
Fire the coach and the staff so the new regime can come in and determine they don't fit what they want to do and cut them or trade them away for future draft picks... that's been working well.
Luckily it's usually the GM who does that and we have at least one more year before Haslam fires Dorsey.
I don't know what to do with having good young players.
Fire the coach and the staff so the new regime can come in and determine they don't fit what they want to do and cut them or trade them away for future draft picks... that's been working well.
We’ve NEVER had anywhere NEAR the TALENT we have NOW ...
NOT EVEN CLOSE ...
I don’t think Hues going anywhere and will be back next year unless he really does some STUPID STUFF ... sorry will ... ...
No way is Dorsey going anywhere ...
U guys get to up after a W and way to low after a loss ...
If the refs don’t hose us this place would be off the charts excited for this game and the expectations would be SKY HIGH ... instead a BS call costs us the game and everyone needs to go ...
Ya’all need to be even keel like me ... *L* WE GOT SOME TALENT and the FUTURES BRIGHT ...
gadget plays based in misdirection never work in Cleveland.
You need an actual ACTION to get a REACTION. So trying Gadget plays without success in another area of the game to get a REACTION that you wish to make the Gadget play successful.
I think it is just dumb to call a gadget play without getting the necessary REACTION - over playing a run or pass and over commitment by the defense for the success of a Gadget play.
I would never keep him in to block....he would be running or out to enter a pattern.
You don't always get that luxury.. you send in the play and the personnel but if the defense sends in something different, you change and he has to block..
Nobody is expecting him to be Joe Thomas but he damn sure needs to know how to pick up a blitzer or a rusher and keep his QB upright for a few seconds.. that's all anybody wants him to do.
The blitz pick up Chubb missed on was partly the fault of TT not having him line up on the correct side ... Now all of a sudden Nick Chubb is being marked as 'can't block'?
Thanks for the laughs dawgs
Some of you really are good at raining on the party.