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Fiedorowicz,Moses, Turner, Southward so far

RB Charles Sims to the Bucs.

I know we should probably take a WR but I still like Borland ILB WISCONSIN ... JMHO

Isn't he rather slow?

I think that we want quicker ILB in Pettine's defense.

Lots of ILBers to pick at the moment. I'd love Christian Jones or Moncrief here.

yeah, Borland is a phone-booth LBer. great player in the 80s, unfortunately, it's not the 80s.

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RB Charles Sims to the Bucs.

I'm not sure why .... with Doug Martin already on board there.

Moncrief is my pick.

maybe the RB from Auburn?? he might fit nicely in a ZB scheme

i'm just gonna say it....I feel like it's going to be Dri Archer here

Wow, guess I'm not the only one who likes Southward and Turner.

FS Brooks, WR remains a strong option...ILB Christian Jones...Browns may even go after a RB since they are being swooped up

ugh.....hate them running behind. seeing the pick is in just makes the wait excruciating

The value is at WR and ILB here. I like Brown of Loisville and Bryant

We should also think about a center that can play Guard for two years then take Macks place. Not a huge need until next year but if one is there.....

Donte Moncrief

Donte Moncrief WR _

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Too obvious. We'll draft a DT.

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Donte Moncrief WR _

i see too much Quincy Morgan in him

Chris Kirksey

Browns take Kirksey linebacker from Iowa

hmmm or an outside LB... that's the first head scratcher for me...

Well I liked Brown better.

Was hoping for Jones...

Hes' light. 6'2 233lbs. Better get him in the weight room and add some beef!

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Browns take Kirksey linebacker from Iowa

we wrote the wrong Christian .... LBer. Should have been Jones.

oh well, definitely some Pettine influence here. the guy can fly. he's just tiny and gets pushed around. be interesting to see if he can push for non-ST time.

Well I got the Christian part right lol I actually like Kirksey he seems to be a high energy tackler but thought he was a 4-5th round guy...I'm ok with this pick...but what are we going to do at WR...have to get Brandon Coleman in round 4

Christian Kirksey.

I think we overdrafted a bit there. I think that he would have been there in the 4th. Is he a starter?

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Hes' light. 6'2 233lbs. Better get him in the weight room and add some beef!

Yeah don't know much about him - analysis I just read said he was small, fast, can cover, but is weak...

Mel sounds like he really likes him FWIW

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hmmm or an outside LB... that's the first head scratcher for me...

I'm scratching like a dog..why not a WR?

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Donte Moncrief WR _

i see too much Quincy Morgan in him

So we draft a small OLB,

He will play inside for us.....good player but I liked a couple of other ILB better. At the end of the day however, they know what fits their scheme better than me.

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Donte Moncrief WR _

i see too much Quincy Morgan in him

So we draft a small OLB,

he's likely an ILB for us. but, not the guy I wanted for it.

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Well I got the Christian part right lol I actually like Kirksey he seems to be a high energy tackler but thought he was a 4-5th round guy...I'm ok with this pick...but what are we going to do at WR...have to get Brandon Coleman in round 4

What are we going to do at WR? Stand pat with what we've got man. Play Defense and RUN the ball! Ground and pound

Think jets of a couple years ago. Hell they made the AFC championship game with Sanchez at QB. Play great D and run run run!

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Christian Kirksey.

I think we overdrafted a bit there. I think that he would have been there in the 4th. Is he a starter?

Haha that's what I thought too...I actually never thought wed take him...because he's small and Dquells size...Thought we should wait for Skov or Christian Jones in round 4...but oh well...Perhaps Street from Pitt at WR or Brandon Coleman will be around in round 4

Preston Brown comes off the board next. I think that he might have been a better ILB prospect.

Damn that Preston Brown looks impressive. 255... a real thumper inside.
Guess we were more into a pass coverage LB....

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Christian Kirksey.

I think we overdrafted a bit there. I think that he would have been there in the 4th. Is he a starter?

Haha that's what I thought too...I actually never thought wed take him...because he's small and Dquells size...Thought we should wait for Skov or Christian Jones in round 4...but oh well...Perhaps Street from Pitt at WR or Brandon Coleman will be around in round 4

We might still take one of those LB's in round 4. Can't have too many linebackers in a 3-4 D. Steelers and Ravens stockpile linebackers every year.

Yeah Brown was the star of the Louisville/Miami game for me.

Oh well, I guess the Browns got the memo to "knock it off" from the league.

I think St. Louis is having a heck of a draft...

San Fran is also having a good draft. Just looks like the rich keep getting richer.

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San Fran is also having a good draft. Just looks like the rich keep getting richer.

I don't know if I'd say St. Louis is the rich... but I agree with you on San Fran... Pats having a good draft too...

Looks like Harbaugh liked the "Slow footed" Borland

slow and small but hits hard...

Ravens take a safety Brooks 4.42 40 he can run...

Looks like the Ravens are rebuilding that defense. Ozzy sure does know his stuff.

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Looks like Harbaugh liked the "Slow footed" Borland

I don't have a problem with Borland, but we have a full back type linebacker already. He's a good player, just doesn't fit the mold we need.

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San Fran is also having a good draft. Just looks like the rich keep getting richer.

I don't know if I'd say St. Louis is the rich...

They've been quietly stocking a nice roster with their RG3 haul.

Definitely true...evident by the Ravens and Steelers once again selecting linebackers when they already have more than legit starters

Terrance Brooks to the Ravens. He'll be a solid player in the NFL, just hopefully not for them.

Texans take Louis Nix with a pick from Philly via us via Pittsburgh.

Hot potato!

Was kind of hoping he'd go undrafted because of his twitter/instagram account...

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Was kind of hoping he'd go undrafted because of his twitter/instagram account...

nix? What'd he do?

Nothing really. Apparently teams were just very concerned about how often he posts on social media.

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And Moncrief is off the board. I really like what Indy has with Moncrief, T.Y., and Dar'Rick Rodgers.

Browns trade up and are on the board now

Well , the pick is in.

Receiver? DB? P?

Browns select with 94th pick:

Terrance West RB TOW

Looks like a solid value there.

I like West but I wouldn't have spent both fourths on him at this point. At least we got a good player this time. Seeyou in the 6th round.

Seems like Pettine was telling the truth. We WILL run the football. Sounds good to me! Ground and pound Browns!

I really, really like this pick. He and McKinnon were my mid round RB picks.

I know people want WR, but I see 4 or 5 more guys I think would be good choices yet.

What was the price to move up? Both 4ths?

Yeah really like West, but we paid both 4ths to move up 8-9 spots?? I was thinking we droped a 6th to do that hmm.

4th and a 6th?

Aditi Kinkhabwala ‏@AKinkhabwala 1m
Browns trade 49ers for the 94th overall pick, take Towson RB Terrance West. Give 49ers picks 106 (4th round), 180 (6th).
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Ok....thanks Ytown. That's what I figured the trade would be, but somebody said we traded both 4ths and I thought that was nuts. Great value, and well worth a 6th round pick to move up and get.

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I really, really like this pick. He and McKinnon were my mid round RB picks.

I know people want WR, but I see 4 or 5 more guys I think would be good choices yet.

Sorry, We just gave up our 6th. Still have 127 and 218.

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I really, really like this pick. He and McKinnon were my mid round RB picks.

I know people want WR, but I see 4 or 5 more guys I think would be good choices yet.

No thanks. 5th 6th and 7th round is where we get our project linemen at. Take a couple guards or a DL. We're good to go at WR. All they need to do is block.
Ground and pound is coming to Cleveland.

We have a 4th and a 7th left, if I count picks right.

I would not be surprised to see us take that 7th and the 4th we got for next year from the Bills to move back into maybe the 5th round this year.

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Seems like Pettine was telling the truth. We WILL run the football. Sounds good to me! Ground and pound Browns!

I think this is ridiculous. Brian Hoyer could have handed the ball off to West and Tate.

Well, he's big. 225 and he ran a 4.5 40.

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STRENGTHS: Solidly-built throughout with good muscle build to shake off defenders. Smooth hips and lower body to stay balanced, working off and around blocks well with a good combination of power and foot quickness. Physical, tough and lowers his pads to finish through contact. Good vision, patience and natural feel as a ballcarrier to press the hole and attack the line of scrimmage, following his blocks. Strong cuts and breaks tackles at all levels . A chore to tackle. Good speed and won?t slow down at the second level with long strides in the open field. Workhorse and wears down defenses. Catches the ball well (31 career catches). Strong work ethic and devoted to the game with his head on straight, keeping his eyes on the prize. Extremely productive career (led the team in rushing each of the last three seasons) and leaves Towson as the school?s all-time leading rusher (4,854), setting FCS single-season records in 2013 for rushing yards (2,509) and rushing touchdowns (41).

WEAKNESSES: Tends to run too high at times and needs to consistently keep his pad level low and keep himself small at the line of scrimmage without slowing down. Makes too much contact with his blockers inside. Lacks elite speed to routinely win the edge. Not much burst and needs a few steps to get his full momentum going. Runs hard, but lacks shifty, explosive feet or twitchy moves. Needs to improve his awareness in pass protection to gain better positioning and show better technique. Needs to hold the ball high and tight and will get sloppy in this area, especially in space. Didn't face top-flight competition each week at the FCS level.

Steelers took Dri Archer.

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Seems like Pettine was telling the truth. We WILL run the football. Sounds good to me! Ground and pound Browns!

I think this is ridiculous. Brian Hoyer could have handed the ball off to West and Tate.

He probably will be

Or maybe Young will....

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Seems like Pettine was telling the truth. We WILL run the football. Sounds good to me! Ground and pound Browns!

I think this is ridiculous. Brian Hoyer could have handed the ball off to West and Tate.

He probably will be Or maybe Young will....

Bleh. If I never see Vince Young under Center fr the Browns in a regular season game it will be too soon. he can run a little bit, but that really is the extent of anything approaching average QB talent from Young.

Maybe if we run the triple option ......

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Seems like Pettine was telling the truth. We WILL run the football. Sounds good to me! Ground and pound Browns!

I think this is ridiculous. Brian Hoyer could have handed the ball off to West and Tate.

Some options. Not spectacular talent, but mid/late what do you expect...

*4th Martavis Bryant
4th Devin Street
4th Kevin Norwood
*7th Jeff Janis
7th Brandon Coleman
*7th L'Damian Washington

Anyone know of any decent WR's in still available in FA? All we need is a year out of one. Draft one at the top next year maybe....

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Steelers took Dri Archer.

I'd be worried if they didn't try the same thing and fail with Chris Rainey.

Is Santonio Holmes still unsigned? How about Miles Austin?

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Steelers took Dri Archer.

Glad to see a fellow Kent Stater get picked up.

Bryant is a guy I love. He's raw, but has the potential to be a beast in a few years.

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Anyone know of any decent WR's in still available in FA? All we need is a year out of one. Draft one at the top next year maybe....

A record number were drafted so figure on a few decent stop gaps being cut.

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I like West but I wouldn't have spent both fourths on him at this point. At least we got a good player this time. Seeyou in the 6th round.

We didn't spend both 4ths on him. We send them the first 4th rounder and the 6th rounder. We have the late 4th rounder and our 7th rounder. I wouldn't be surprised if we use it to try and trade up further in the 4th round.

Both are available, and some others:

Danario Alexander
Robert Meachem
Earl Bennett
Austin Collie
Josh Morgan
Dezmon Briscoe

My top WRs available:

1) Bryant
2) Street
3) Gallon
4) Abbrederis
5) Campanaro

http://cornerblitz.com/2014/Rankings/Post-Combine/WRf.aspx

I can't argue with that list, I'd question though if we draft a small guy (Gallon, Campanaro) - thus the others I had on my list. I think Campanaro is the next Welker...

4th Kevin Norwood
*7th Jeff Janis
7th Brandon Coleman
*7th L'Damian Washington

I really like Devin Street from Pitt at WR. I'd be happy if they drafted him.

Me too, really hope is available.