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Seems like a must win-ish type game. Inactives will be out soon

Would have rather beat chargers honestly because they own tiebreaker over us now and I still believe both them and chiefs will make playoffs

Inactives:
Chubb
Green
Smith
Wills
Conklin
Togiai

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Inactives:
Chubb
Green
Smith
Wills
Conklin
Togiai

Thank goodness we won’t have to watch Billings chase around Kyler.

Surprised AJ Green is inactive...was hoping for AJ Green on AJ Green...and some CB depth since Greedy, Ward, and Newsome aren't really considered Iron men

alot of guys out... I'm ok with them sitting the marginal guys since this was more than likely a loss anyways. Rather them be healthy for game 16 not so much game 6

What’s the weather like for those who are there

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

What’s the weather like for those who are there

About 58 degrees and up to 20 MPH winds.

Thanks bud

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Thanks bud

No problem! Do you know why Chubb is inactive or no?

Calf injury is all we know right now.

Yes he has a strained calf

Thanks for the info and ut-oh?

I figured we'd run Chubb a lot today because of the weather, but it's up to Hunt now and whoever else they put in.

Originally Posted by 3rd_and_20

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

What’s the weather like for those who are there

About 58 degrees and up to 20 MPH winds.

P.S. It rained earlier today, but no more rain is in the forecast. Hopefully it's correct.

Let's Go Browns

Kickoff upcoming

WE ARE GONNA WIN ...

Let’s hope!

Our ball to start it looks

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

WE ARE GONNA WIN ...

we better!

Is that allowed like that? To down it after he was outside?

Well Lets see if Stefanski and Baker can make it happen today

well, hope our D is a bit healthier and has had some good practice.

Welp, drop by hooper

Well Hooper doing to what Hooper does

Don’t like that we’re going empty to start

Hoop but flag on us.

Well there that went

Hudson already kills us

Hoop!

Talk about a freaking poor way to start the game

Shoot

3 and out … penalty and a drop. YUCK

Defense needs a big day

Welp that sucked

I just dont like when we come out and pass, pass, pass

Hands to the face?

Where was the holding call on the Cards there?

Yeah looked like a hold

I thought Baker got hit in the face

Our defense is right on point

Thank God he caught him.

Draw play come on woods

Our third down d is embarrassing

Garbage coaching thus far

Nice tackling there

Jesus

Right in their wheel house … 3rd down

We need to make this stop

Unfortunately we already gave up points

Murray’s legs are just SO hard to stop

So far not good, but it's early.

We look awful

Murray's legs will be the difference in the game

Is this the first game LB Tony Fields is active?

Thank goodness, that saves us 4 points

Good!!!

Not having either tackle may be to much to overcome. If we cant run the ball I dont see much chance

they will convert

Worst linebackers in the nfl=easy win with mobile qb

figures

Our defense is a freaking JOKE

That honestly is an embarrassment

Terrible

Maybe stefanski will actually call a run play against the 28th ranked run defense

touchdown

Bleh. 2nd and a mile and we give up the TD.

Welp.. just what we were scared of... the D line cannot leave huge gaps for Murray to run through

Woods needs to go, that much is obvious at this point. He is clueless

cant hang with the big boys

For us to come out and look like this on defense is unacceptable

Damn...just like last week

Are you serious? 3rd and 21 and that happens? Who screwed that up? Seriously?

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Welp.. just what we were scared of... the D line cannot leave huge gaps for Murray to run through

Yep. I've been seeing them myself.

How much did we pay Hill and Johnson? Buyer's regret? Wow.

We won’t make the playoffs in any capacity this year with this defense. Teams giving up 40 a game don’t make the playoffs

3rd and 21 - touchdown. LOL

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

I thought Baker got hit in the face

he did

Browns need to find a way to be better on 3rd downs, this start on both offense and defense won't cut it against the 5-0 Cards.

Hill is terrible....what a waste of money. Teams know it to.

Woods Defense gets exposed by good offenses.

Looking like a .500 ball club to me

The issue is woods more than the players. These players were good until they got here

Come on Baker looks like we have to score another 42

Just not ready to be a serious contender for the Super Bowl. You just cannot play like this. Period.

Oh, this is going to be a long day. They need to let baker call the plays today. This dink and dunk game is not his game coach.

Face it fellas we are overrated , we can beat on Jax Hou Det but good playoff teams we are behind . ravens destroy LA we give up almost 50 .

I dont know what the Browns D was practicing all week but you cannot leave Murray lanes to run through... And our secondary is just confused all the time

Bad news: we literally are the worst 3rd down D I see in the NFL

Nice Baker

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Come on Baker looks like we have to score another 42

And then there would still be people saying that "He can't win the close ones", if we lose.

Man, there were a ton of blowouts today in the early games, I hope we're not another in the late games.

Okay, we look atrocious

And they are missing their HC and playcaller and they shredded our joke of a d

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Bad news: we literally are the worst 3rd down D I see in the NFL

Always the case

This first 7 minutes has been painful enough that I'm considering doing something else.

Finally

This D sucks....we won't even make the playoffs this season

Stefanski being a dumbass again. No attempt to run the ball at all. With TWO new tackles. You cannot make this stupidity up.

Finally! Now can we run the ball ever?

OBJ

If we are simply trying to rest guys at this point in the season, that’s a tough pill to swallow

Defense sleeping on the job again. I'm tired of them giving up big plays, especially on 3rd and long

Soooo, Cardinals weak spot is their run defense and we have passed on every down so far? Out game planning is seriously questionable....

Looking at that replay, Ward coming up like that is not a good play by him

no running game

Stefanski hurts himself.. we have a mean run game and we dont come out using it

Our OTs look very skeptical right now

remember when our line was ranked so high

And another FLAG

too many mistakes sloppy

We cant run the ball without our tackles

This is a pretty tick tack call

flag

This is not a playoff team. They just aren’t.

yes!

You can’t tell me we don’t have something better than Hudson. Dude doesn’t belong in league

Another flag .. on them. But I dont wanna see a flag fest

lord Baker

WAY too cute

Good redemption dpj

I’m not liking what I’ve seen here from the OTs

UGH

Take the points

stupid

Kick it

this is a nightmare

we never learn like the 9th time this happened

Will you take the Fing points? What a dumbass! SMH

So stupid

Stefanski and Baker are hurting the team

KICK THE FG !!!!!!!!!

Yeppers, should have took the 3 points.

14 zip coming right up

4th down, we might as well kick, because we've given up sacks on at least 3 that I can remember.

We suck at 4th down conversions as it is but you want to try when your missing both starting offensive tackles

Man, we SUCK at 4th downs. How many times has Baker taken the sack on 4th down? Absolutely maddening!

It seems like it’s gonna be a long day

so how many 4th downs this year has Baker taken a sack????

Sigh

baler pressing he is just not the guy

8 or 9

This is hard to watch

Stefanski needs to give up playcalling and we need a qb that can read a defense and deliver a ball on time. Both of them suck. So does woods. We are not a playoff team. Everything we did good last year we aren’t doing anything of

Van pelt needs to take over playcalling. I dont trust stefanski as playcaller anymore

It was true before this game, and it is still true now: 3 > 0.

Jesus. Just kick the damn football!

I knew teams would simply come crashing down on Baker every 4th down...Bears nailed it with that, and seems like every team has done so

It’s not obj. It’s baker

No coach for them we are getting slammed

Haslem should come down from the stands and pimp slap KS every time he wants to go for it on 4th

blitz missed tackel

We cant tackle anyone

Our D with no juice at all

Originally Posted by redddog

It’s not obj. It’s baker

It’s always been the case, obj has proven to be a game changer, only thing that changed was who is throwing him the ball

Every time we go for it on 4th down, someone needs to punch Stefanski. We dont have our starting tackles or starting rb, wr or fb.

We can blame the coaches, the officials, or whatever the fact is we are not playing well right now !!!!

What are we doing?

Replay showed guy running open in middle and baker took the sack instead

Yeah OBJ was wide open two straight plays

Of course a flag

Run play and walker is 5 yards away from the play. Outside of JOK every single lb should be replaced

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Replay showed guy running open in middle and baker took the sack instead

He has immediate pressure. If he tried to make the throw he would have been sacked.

why even try

You could call that every play

That was a terrible call

Dude shup up already!! Your just here to bash baker go away already

There shouldn't have been a flag on that play.

Bad Call

How about a flag on them/

no flag on them figures

Ong. Ward hit the ball!!

This is hard to watch

3rd down convert coming up

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Replay showed guy running open in middle and baker took the sack instead

He has immediate pressure. If he tried to make the throw he would have been sacked.

It wasn’t and most qbs make that throw

why does it seem as though the officials are always against us ????

on that baker run he ran out of bounds instead of trying to get the maker, thats who he is

It feels like, even if we get a 3rd and long spot, our D won’t be able to make a play

Just a reminder AZ doesn’t have their whole offensive coaching staff. We should be able to exploit that

F these refs. Seriously man.

can we pull a longest yard play and drill the ref, these guys are amateurs.

Stefanski needs to relinquish the play calling. He simply doesn't understand what needs to be done. At this point everyone in the stadium knows that teams are going to blitz on 4th down. He simply doesn't get it. I've had enough of the Kevin Stefanski play calling era.

Baker better start seeing wide open receivers like OBJ on the 4th down or we are gping to get blown out.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

on that baker run he ran out of bounds instead of trying to get the maker, thats who he is

You realize he's playing hurt

so much for our improved secondary

We blitz and its so easy for them to throw past it … they blitz us and baker goes into a shell

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

why does it seem as though the officials are always against us ????

Because they are

Another freakin' flag.

And another PI on ward

PI every pass play

freaking unbelievable... NFL gotta keep Cards unbeaten...

These refs are impossible.

I’m getting tired of this same script

Man, these Refs are calling tight as hell

And another flag on us

This defense is a reflection of the joke that is Joe woods

Cmon!!

I don't see why we even bother.

Tell me the refs aren't bought and paid.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

And another flag on us

That one was legit... the two PIs were not

14 -0 right quick...

flag every freaking play, yea we are a playoff team

Even the defense knows we cant win this game without our offensive tackles

Murray we run this in

We’re on pace for 20 penalties for 200 yards

I think these refs are betting on the game, they have to be and it would not be something new, all other sports have had corrupt cheaters. These refs need to be fired.

And another flag on us

Dumbest team in the NFL

Ticky-tac

That's roughing?!? He barely touched him

Jax would blow us out at this point. Walking back down the steps into the cellar

OMG... they are just calling anything

Undisciplined football. This is absolutely pathetic

This may be a powder keg at the stadium

God these refs are calling every play

These refs are unbelieveable!!!!!

Even the head ref agrees

Flag again

The refs will make sure we can't win. Just disgusting.

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

And another flag on us

That one was legit... the two PIs were not

no it wasn't

We need to stop thinking about the post season at this point. This team is not good enough.

This isn’t the coaching staff we thought we had last year

Finally! Flag on them.

this is becoming unwatchable

Might as well put the back ups in, and just preserve the starters for another week when the refs want to play fair

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

And another flag on us

That one was legit... the two PIs were not

no it wasn't

They were talking about the facemask

This game is like going to the proctologist

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Replay showed guy running open in middle and baker took the sack instead

He has immediate pressure. If he tried to make the throw he would have been sacked.

It wasn’t and most qbs make that throw

If he made that throw he'd have a right arm dislocation to go with his left.

Refs came to play today. Total BS calls on PI on a couple key plays. Ridiculous

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

And another flag on us

That one was legit... the two PIs were not

no it wasn't

The facemask was an easy call... it wasn't much of a grab but the correct call... both PIs and the roughing the passer were crap....

Agreed

Miles got mugged no call

So far this is pretty bad. And I wanted to win one for Chubb.

this is the same crew that screwed us against the raiders !!!!

Yeah there was a clear hold

j/c:

These announcers are terrible.

for as bad as this announcer crew is, and Matt Sanchez was a better QB than he is an announcer, they are still better than these Refs.

This may have been the most painful quarter of football in 2 years

I simply don't understand why the Refs really do seem to be against us.. Charger game we would have won if not for the refs and this one is getting out of hand

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Miles got mugged no call

This

It seems like our D has been on the field for an hour straight.

Just the 1st quarter. I hope the team stays motivated. Cause these refs once again are just terrible.

That is SO EMBARRASSING

Tackling is fundamental kids

smoked

I'm DONE!!!... I'M DONE....

We are trash on defense

Our offense had the ball for maybe 2 minutes in the 1st. Coach better have a plan

Can we fire Woods at half time?

Lmao our defense is asleep out there

how do you miss that tackle

TL;DR

What is the excuse for Joe Woods this week?

we are so far behind the real SB contenders

our D is already gassed...

So far they have owned us.

3RD down and we just give up a TD... If I'm the coach.. I call everyone over and cuss them all out!!!

Cut everyone who missed those tackles. Trash

Browns defense is Kimble...aka trash

Now we are forced to throw. With two backups at tackle. We couldn't run. The ball so how we gonna throw?

Originally Posted by Swish

Just the 1st quarter. I hope the team stays motivated. Cause these refs once again are just terrible.

time to accidentally crush a ref in a crossing

woods needs to go he cant use this talent we have for nothing!!!

Between the refs and this defense I don't how much more I can take

OK enjoy the game guys. I'm done watching this nonsense. The refs, the play calling, the effort on defense. No thanks. I've got better things to do. See ya Thursday.

I dont have much confidence at this juncture

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

I simply don't understand why the Refs really do seem to be against us.. Charger game we would have won if not for the refs and this one is getting out of hand

Unwritten payback? Browns players challenged them for fines and spoke their mind last week in post game interviews. Ref crews gonna double down on the Browns now...

Just my guess...

Originally Posted by Jcamm

we are so far behind the real SB contenders

our defense does look bad BUT: when you get bogus call after bogus call against you on 3rd downs that allows it to get to the point where they brake what can you do??? These Refs are as bad as last week!

until the nfl starts giving fines to these refs they will not stop them from screwing teams over!!!

I dont blame you

Delpit got his ankles broken. And blitzing there was stupid.

Now our O will press, and toss a pick...then we'll be in a 21-0 deficit...that's how it usually goes for us unfortunately...this game is just saddening

Just kneel it schwartz

Originally Posted by TooTall

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

I simply don't understand why the Refs really do seem to be against us.. Charger game we would have won if not for the refs and this one is getting out of hand

Unwritten payback? Browns players challenged them for fines and spoke their mind last week in post game interviews. Ref crews gonna double down on the Browns now...

Just my guess...

This is my guess as well. A message is being sent.

I say we put a hat on a hat and return a message.

to much talent something just ain't right

Originally Posted by TooTall

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

I simply don't understand why the Refs really do seem to be against us.. Charger game we would have won if not for the refs and this one is getting out of hand

Unwritten payback? Browns players challenged them for fines and spoke their mind last week in post game interviews. Ref crews gonna double down on the Browns now...

Just my guess...

Sounds about right. That wouldn't surprise me one bit

We look so dead

Originally Posted by TooTall

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

I simply don't understand why the Refs really do seem to be against us.. Charger game we would have won if not for the refs and this one is getting out of hand

Unwritten payback? Browns players challenged them for fines and spoke their mind last week in post game interviews. Ref crews gonna double down on the Browns now...

Just my guess...

what was the excuse before last week. When they actually cost us the game

There’s a big fundamental organizational flaw. This team has no soul. We don’t have an identity on defense and we seem content to be passive and react as opposed to aggressive and take chances. Which is what actually works in the league. This style we play doesn’t work

This is just an atrocity

You gotta be kidding me

Nice baker

WTF is Baker doing?????? Wow. UNBELIEVABLE

Everything that can go wrong is so far.

HUDson must be benched

21 - 0 coming up

Browns 0 Arizona 0 refs 14

This is ridiculous

I love my browns but till the NFL does something about these refs im done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arizona scores now and goes up 21-0, this game will be over.

You guys don't like making things easy for yourself, do you?

No way we signing Baker

It feels like we’re back in 1999

Please get a qb

Didn't I call that...sigh

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

HUDson must be benched

He is playing like crap

Fumble but their QB is quicker than ours

Can we even beat the bengals this season?

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Browns 0 Arizona 0 refs 14

BS. The refs did stand there like a statue and fumble the ball

Just checking in to say that our QB is pretty bad.

The playoffs are done. Who cares?

No flag? Miracle

Originally Posted by DaveyD

WTF is Baker doing?????? Wow. UNBELIEVABLE

What do you want him to do!! We have no LG

Originally Posted by Jcamm

No way we signing Baker

Oh yeah they are. He is our franchise qb.

looks like JOK is spying Murray..... it also looks like it doesn't matter.

Flag on us oops

People stop blaming the refs for this. They aren’t missing tackles or standing there and letting them Strip the ball or taking sacks. Browns have earned this L

blowout

you have to be kidding

17-0 LOL

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Browns 0 Arizona 0 refs 14

BS. The refs did stand there like a statue and fumble the ball

STAND THERE LIKE A STATUE!!!! are you even watching!

Is it bad that our QB can't throw to open receivers?

17 to nothing.

Then this is what you get

Any idea why the refs were blowing the whistle before the Baker fumble?

Guess the refs think the fans came to see them today

14-0 Refs 3-0 Cards

Originally Posted by Jcamm

No way we signing Baker

Oh yeah they are. He is our franchise qb.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

No way we signing Baker

Just stop.

I had a bad feeling when I heard Nick Chubb wasn't playing today.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

People stop blaming the refs for this. They aren’t missing tackles or standing there and letting them Strip the ball or taking sacks. Browns have earned this L

We stopped them on third down and they made up a penalty on Ward!!!! Yes we didn't stop them later and allowed them get a touchdown.. how many times do you have to stop them on third down?
ARE YOU EVEN A BROWNS FAN!

I hope haslam comes in and does something about this coaching staff. Namely firing woods and making KS give up playcalling.

No way this team cant compete with Buff Ravens LA KC even Cinn

Usually I pause and then fast forward through the commercials. Today, I think I am going to fast forward through the game and watch the commercials.

Baker and three first round picks for Russell Wilson, who says no?

Now we are forced to throw. With two backups at tackle. We couldn't run. The ball so how we gonna throw?

Baker pressing too much watching his big contract fading away

We look like the old Browns. This is sickening.

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker and three first round picks for Russell Wilson, who says no?

You're an idiot!

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker and three first round picks for Russell Wilson, who says no?

I bet 2 firsts and a second get it done.

Here comes the pick

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Browns 0 Arizona 0 refs 14

BS. The refs did stand there like a statue and fumble the ball

STAND THERE LIKE A STATUE!!!! are you even watching!

Rewatch the play. Baker juked then just stood upright like he froze

Is this what it felt like when we lost our head coach against the Steelers?

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker and three first round picks for Russell Wilson, who says no?

You're an idiot!

Why is he an idiot? Is that not an upgrade?

Baker haters are salivating today

Baker is so much worse than most other QBs … and it’s so noticeable

Liked last years defense better

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker and three first round picks for Russell Wilson, who says no?

You're an idiot!

Not enough picks?

3 and out

We look horrific

This is terrible ..

OMG

This is like 1999

This is a disaster game.

That was supposed to be a reverse. There was no one on the other side of the field.

over

One thing is certain - this game should determine whether or not Baker has enough cajones to actually will the Browns back to being competitive/potentially winning this game. Should tell fans a lot about whether or not he potentially is "the guy" or not.

told ya

This is as bad as it gets

2 turnovers by Baker. Time for yard work.

time to sit baker and put keenaum in the game that shoulder is killing us

Was that OBJs fault too?

Oh yea, he wasn’t the target.

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker and three first round picks for Russell Wilson, who says no?

You're an idiot!

Not enough picks?

Four first rounders and Case Keenum for Russell Wilson, who says no?

I called it with Baker...just sad

Baker def isn’t the guy. He won’t be here. I’d be willing to bet that. He just can’t rise

Game over in the second quarter.

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Browns 0 Arizona 0 refs 14

BS. The refs did stand there like a statue and fumble the ball

STAND THERE LIKE A STATUE!!!! are you even watching!

Rewatch the play. Baker juked then just stood upright like he froze

The refs blew the whistle. I know I heard it twice and on one of the replays.

Baker needs to have his wife go on social media a little more after this

I'm heading for the exits, and I'm at home watching this debacle

You cannot make this up.. the game plan is bad.. the oline is not blocking... and Baker cant make passes... at some point folks have to see that Odel aint the problem.. ITS BAKER!!

Even routine throws baker is erratic

Pull Baker now

Originally Posted by boofers20

I'm heading for the exits, and I'm at home watching this debacle

Lmao

I'm actually not mad that i have to leave for work in about 5 minutes.

meanwhile Josh Allen and Lamar are fighting for MVP

Apparently stefanski lost is mind on the refs.

He never loses his cool. Thsts how bad it is

The game spiraled out of control and the players let the refs get in their heads. This game is over.

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

One thing is certain - this game should determine whether or not Baker has enough cajones to actually will the Browns back to being competitive/potentially winning this game. Should tell fans a lot about whether or not he potentially is "the guy" or not.

Not if all he is allowed to do is dink and dunk. You want to open up the run, take some deep shots. This is why we are struggling. Baker is a round peg being forced into a Kirk Cousins shaped hole. Baker was/is a gunslinger, not a game manager.

So 24 to 0 here in a few

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

Baker haters are salivating today

Any idea why?

Come on Mox. You saw baker missed booker twice high and wide and not see a wide open OBJ.

At some point. Our #1 overall pick gotta play like a franchise QB

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

One thing is certain - this game should determine whether or not Baker has enough cajones to actually will the Browns back to being competitive/potentially winning this game. Should tell fans a lot about whether or not he potentially is "the guy" or not.

Not if all he is allowed to do is dink and dunk. You want to open up the run, take some deep shots. This is why we are struggling. Baker is a round peg being forced into a Kirk Cousins shaped hole. Baker was/is a gunslinger, not a game manager.

This is the same offense we ran last year and Baker was money in the bank.

Baker totally exposed … and he looks like he did in 2019

Originally Posted by DogNDC

You cannot make this up.. the game plan is bad.. the oline is not blocking... and Baker cant make passes... at some point folks have to see that Odel aint the problem.. ITS BAKER!!

We are missing:
Starting left tackle
Starting right tackle
Starting running back
Starting fullback
Starting wide receiver

When Pittsburgh beats the Sehawks tonight...won't we be back in the basement of the AFC north?

I think it has changed. We took a lot more shots and played the pass a little heavier last year.

If his shoulder is bothering him he should be pulled, if it isnt his shoulder he needs to keep playing.

Nobody plays like a franchise QB in 30MPH winds. Just my two cents.

The Cardinals aren't even pretending on defense. They are six defensive linemen in on most downs.

Nobody is scared of our run game without our OTs and chubb

If Ski is supposed to do whatever to win like he always says, he'd pull Baker. He's hurting us in the worst way right now

Why should anyone be surprised at how we are [laying today? I'm not!!!

This is are eerily similar to the Browns Steelers game when Stefanski was out with Covid

I’d be surprised if we score. Maybe when they pull their starters

Finally! Sack/Clowney.

Originally Posted by Woofurious

Nobody plays like a franchise QB in 30MPH winds. Just my two cents.

Except the QB on the other team.

20-0

Originally Posted by Woofurious

Nobody plays like a franchise QB in 30MPH winds. Just my two cents.

Kyler doesn’t seem to have a problem in the same weather. Stop making excuses.

20 point lead cant overcome that

baker will be fine but they need to let his shoulder heal and let case take care over till hes 100%

We def missed clowney last week

Man Clowney looked fast

The Browns need a TD this drive. Period. Need to use another running back aside from Hunt as well. They're going to have to take the air out of the ball to give the defense a breather and to have a chance.

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by DogNDC

You cannot make this up.. the game plan is bad.. the oline is not blocking... and Baker cant make passes... at some point folks have to see that Odel aint the problem.. ITS BAKER!!

We are missing:
Starting left tackle
Starting right tackle
Starting running back
Starting fullback
Starting wide receiver

All teams have injuries and that does not excuse Baker nor the crap game plan. You have to adjust what you are used to doing. Mr. Play-action pass cannot just make the throws.

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by Woofurious

Nobody plays like a franchise QB in 30MPH winds. Just my two cents.

Kyler doesn’t seem to have a problem in the same weather. Stop making excuses.

Always an excuse

Originally Posted by Woofurious

Nobody plays like a franchise QB in 30MPH winds. Just my two cents.

How is Kyler doing in the wind?

Originally Posted by Jcamm

20 point lead cant overcome that

Not being able to throw to open receivers seems like it will hinder the comeback.

pick 2 or fumble coming up

Originally Posted by LexDawg

If his shoulder is bothering him he should be pulled, if it isnt his shoulder he needs to keep playing.

Agreed.... that INT was awful... we were wide open.....

the fumble I understand... though it was a bad mental play by Bake... he did a great job getting out of trouble initially but needed to throw the ball away.... the INT was just an awful throw

There needs to be some spark

Maybe try the hurry up

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Maybe try the hurry up

+1

OBJ hurt

OBJ hurt...

obj hurt figures

There's still a chance if we had a QB who could take us down the field real quick.

Baker is gunshy too

OBJ hurt...

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by DogNDC

You cannot make this up.. the game plan is bad.. the oline is not blocking... and Baker cant make passes... at some point folks have to see that Odel aint the problem.. ITS BAKER!!

We are missing:
Starting left tackle
Starting right tackle
Starting running back
Starting fullback
Starting wide receiver

All teams have injuries and that does not excuse Baker nor the crap game plan. You have to adjust what you are used to doing. Mr. Play-action pass cannot just make the throws.

Add a gift of 14 points handed to the Cardinals.

Football is an emotional sport

too many injuries this year snakebit

Who cares? Obj is a ghost.

Finally a quality throw

Both tackles out... Chubb out.... Landry out... OBJ hurt.... offense is gonna need a miracle...

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Originally Posted by Woofurious

Nobody plays like a franchise QB in 30MPH winds. Just my two cents.

How is Kyler doing in the wind?

Right?! I'm tired of the excuses

Obj hurt

This feels like our games from 99-01 when I was content with a 1st down

too little too late

Great run by Hunt

Originally Posted by jaybird

Both tackles out... Chubb out.... Landry out... OBJ hurt.... offense is gonna need a miracle...

Like the other team missing their best defensive player and head coach?

I haven’t seen Hudson block one guy

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

OBJ hurt

Not shocked it is his MO.

Their defense hits harder than ours

Wasn't #59 taunting?

Unfortunately now we have to throw

Originally Posted by Jcamm

too little too late

Do you find yourself complaining about everything in real life?

Fg coming up

I smell another TO on downs

That’s why you stay with the run, 28th ranked defense eventually hunt will get going

TD

Finally

Finally a TD … good play by DPJ

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Fg coming up

Keep complaining

should be 20 to 10 kevin too much of a gambler

Originally Posted by Woofurious

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

OBJ hurt

Not shocked it is his MO.

He said earlier in the year that his shoulder pops out all the time.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Fg coming up

Reverse jinx?

20-7

Finally TD

Need a 3 and out, and March back down again and score

This is what happens when you let Baker get in a grove, get the ball out, and make plays. Funny (not funny), OBJ was out, baker scored... smh, I just don't know why.

Good play. Throw was on target and good effort by dpj, if anything atleast the defense got a breather

This game started for us the way our playoff game with Pittsburgh started.

Hopefully, we recover better.

Need to stop them and get another TD before halftime if we want to stay in this game...

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

This is what happens when you let Baker get in a grove, get the ball out, and make plays. Funny (not funny), OBJ was out, baker scored... smh, I just don't know why.

You do know that TD drive started with an obj catch right? What are you even talking about.

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Fg coming up

Keep complaining

Tring reverse Psychology, trying too criticize everything too reverse the Force

obj done

Seemed to fair better with that tempo...and completing actual passes helped as well

I don't know that we can slow down Murray enough to climb back into this one.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

should be 20 to 10 kevin too much of a gambler

Stefanski will not even be asked that question... the game could be alot closer but the gambler messed up

kick it out of end zone common man

The Browns defense needs a 3 and out or a turnover.

Feel like we need to hold them and get another TD before half to have any chance of winning this game

Agreed

step up defense

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

This is what happens when you let Baker get in a grove, get the ball out, and make plays. Funny (not funny), OBJ was out, baker scored... smh, I just don't know why.

You do know that TD drive started with an obj catch right? What are you even talking about.

I'm talking about a redz0one conversion... remember those? And don't defend OBJ to me while bashing Baker because that's BS.

My guess is OBJ separated his shoulder...

Kyler usually has several horrible throws a game. He already had one on the Ward PI when John Johnson caught it out of bounds. Let's hope for another now.

A 3 and out and a quick score would be great. Obj looks pissed

Good play finally walker

COME ON

figures

WHERE ARE THE DEFENDERS

just can't stop 3rd down

worst secondary than last year i miss sendjio

Walker is SO SLOW

Originally Posted by jaybird

just can't stop 3rd down

every single game

Doesn't sound good for OBJ.

Our D does what is becoming usual ...... great on 1st and 2nd .... then give up the conversion on 3rd and locg.

too easy

Gonna be 27-7 at half

WHERE is the secondary??

JOK is our best D player. He shows up every play.

Well I guess the Refs do not call holding on them

i cant stand Woods so called def

This is just horrendous

I think that Murray had a birthday in the pocket.

JOK literally the only linebacker that is worth anything

To be fair, I've never even heard of that guy that was open down the field 5 seconds after the snap.

Barry whiffed on the offseason with this trash back end of defense

Problems, we get down early and have to play catch up and we never can catch up. Also, Browns D cannot get off the field on 3rd downs, we have to be the worst team on 3rd downs.

All damn day to throw

Another blown coverage

We desperately need Jarvis and Chubb, strictly for the vibe IMO. We don’t have it without them

poor def gonna be so gased by the fourth

the way Cinn and NE are playing cant even see us making playoffs

The Browns try to play Cover 3, but don't have the secondary to hold up long enough for the defensive line to get home; or the d-line over pursues leaving the linebackers exposed.

our D coord is not accounting for the slot receiver.. and that is what is killing us

Our zone coverage is trash

We needed to fix linebacker and safety in offseason and it doesn’t appear we did, but I still think it’s scheme that’s bad over individual players

This team sucks. Last year was our year.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

We desperately need Jarvis and Chubb, strictly for the vibe IMO. We don’t have it without them

Defense is the issue

Originally Posted by 85_Browns_Queen

Our zone coverage is trash

Can't play man against Murray.

same plays the D got burnt twice on last week.

Don’t pay baker. Don’t pay ward.

we dont have the passion or fight Arz has

didnt know we had a def corrd

boy oh boy

Woods is fugazzi

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by 85_Browns_Queen

Our zone coverage is trash

Can't play man against Murray.

Yes you can; you'll need some disciplined and fast linebackers though.

Originally Posted by redddog

This team sucks. Last year was our year.

easy schedule last year

Originally Posted by redddog

Don’t pay baker. Don’t pay ward.

Good thing we don't have to for another year.

Also, good thing our front office was patient.

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

The Browns try to play Cover 3, but don't have the secondary to hold up long enough for the defensive line to get home; or the d-line over pursues leaving the linebackers exposed.

But receivers are not being passed off correctly to the safeties... and the safeties to not see folks coming right to their zones

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Barry whiffed on the offseason with this trash back end of defense

"Berry" did not whiff. He got the talent; Woods is below average. The talent is there, Chicago more than proved that.

Yeah, our FO wisely didnt do it

27-7 at half? And they get the ball …yikes

27 to 7 at half. sadness

We'll always have the Pittsburgh playoff game.

I could almost guarantee Gregg Williams could get this defense respectable if we let woods go tonight

Man, Joe Woods is going to be grilled after this year... his backend schemes are not there....

any 3rd down they have is no problem for any team vs us

Who scored for them I missed it

This is a good point

easy coversion

3rd down.. here comes a TD

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

The Browns try to play Cover 3, but don't have the secondary to hold up long enough for the defensive line to get home; or the d-line over pursues leaving the linebackers exposed.

But receivers are not being passed off correctly to the safeties... and the safeties to not see folks coming right to their zones

That sounds like a coaching or a communication issue. Who's got the green dot for the secondary?

WADE PHILIPS where are you

JOK needs to play everydown...

I’d take BUM Philips in his current state

right now id settle for Mike petine

Originally Posted by Jcamm

WADE PHILIPS where are you

Retired; he's old now. All things not withstanding, the defense holding them to FG's is limiting the damage that could've been done by the Cardinals. The Browns need to at least get into FG range.

they have scored every Possession

I didn't expect to have this feeling this season.

Arz on pace too drop 50

Originally Posted by Jcamm

they have scored every Possession

Yea but it’s FGs now. We have a shot to come back in the 2nd half.

I was expecting to lose today... but was expecting to be competitive... we've gotten our butts kicked throughly so far...

Originally Posted by olddog1

right now id settle for Mike petine

Pettine would dominate with this talent.

This game really exposed this team.

We all need to re-evaluate the expectations. But the playoffs seem ridiculous right now.

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by Jcamm

they have scored every Possession

Yea but it’s FGs now. We have a shot to come back in the 2nd half.

Maybe.... we likely need some points to end this half on a high... and even then I don't think we slow AZ's offense enough to catch up... our offense doesn't have it today

god we are so sad

Ugh

Bottom line there are better DCs available than this guy we have masquerading as a dc

man murphys law is in strong affect today

why are we doing 5 yard dumps with 35 seconds and no TOs?

baker is so so bad in the 2 minutes

alot of this is just bad coaching

Originally Posted by Jcamm

they have scored every Possession

They have to. Their punter missed the flight.

Baker doing these situations vs the “good’ QBs is LAUGHABLE

wow

It’s pretty rare for baker to throw a ball the receivers don’t have to adjust to

That helps

YES YES YES

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by olddog1

right now id settle for Mike petine

Pettine would dominate with this talent.

Pettine got fired for doing crap with a very talented Green Bay defense.

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was so freaking needed

HOLY CRAP

maybe this will wake us up

What a play to DPJ!!!!! TD!

DPJ

Boom!

Momentum changer there!

we never get type type of plays

23-14... still a lot to fix but wow... that really helped...

Nice throw Baker!!!!!

Omg

WERE BACK IN IT!!! Peoples Jooooooones

Crazy but perfect time. Ok from now on we just throw hail marys

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Momentum changer there!

defense need a 3 and out after halftime

Should we hav gone for 2?

Kylers face hahahaaha

People Jones looking like Roy Williams there

That hail mary may be just what we need to stay in this game

Arizona 9 Browns 14 Refs 14 at the half.

Originally Posted by Swish

WERE BACK IN IT!!! Peoples Jooooooones

i admit he was a steal draft pick

I think dpj is a sleeper. He can probably do a lot more than he’s had the opportunity

Like I said, SKI, let Baker be Baker.

17 if we take FG instead of the dumb 4th down call

DPJ > than OBJ for our offense

Speechless....omggg

Can we trade for 2020 second half of the season Baker at half time?

problem is woods never ever adjusts at halftime

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

DPJ > than OBJ for our offense

Higgins > OBJ too

We have to heat Kyler up from the middle and have the DE contain

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Can we trade for 2020 second half of the season Baker at half time?

Maybe if Ski can remember Baker is a gunslinger.

Maybe that hail mary TD pass just before the half will get the Browns going!

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

We have to heat Kyler up from the middle and have the DE contain

Do you have the DE's to play contain? Clowney and Garrett like to rush the passer. You might be able to push one inside, and have one hold the edge, but the back up ends are noticeably smaller for the Browns, aren't they?

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Can we trade for 2020 second half of the season Baker at half time?

Maybe if Ski can remember Baker is a gunslinger.

This is a horrible excuse. This is the same offense we ran last year. Baker was good last year because Stefanski kept the shackles on him.

I don’t care how ugly we win as long as we win

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

DPJ > than OBJ for our offense

Higgins > OBJ too

Dude stop... Baker over threw Higgins too for a interception. The Problem aint OBJ.. its Baker with his non scanning the field, no touch having passes.

Baker can half a crap first half. If he lights it up in the 2nd and we win, I don’t care about the 1st

Can we trade for Woods? Can't watch game today. Paper listed it wrong. Tell me the Hail Mary was pretty.

We gotta start the half with a stop

Originally Posted by Bard Dawg

Can we trade for Woods? Can't watch game today. Paper listed it wrong. Tell me the Hail Mary was pretty.

Bro. You remember Murray to Hopkins Hail Mary? It was that level of gorgeous.

Hudson is pretty darn bad. Hope adjustments are made to help him.

Originally Posted by Bard Dawg

Can we trade for Woods? Can't watch game today. Paper listed it wrong. Tell me the Hail Mary was pretty.

Hail Mary up on YouTube now...

Originally Posted by leadtheway

It’s pretty rare for baker to throw a ball the receivers don’t have to adjust to

See even when you compliment him it's a backhanded slap. Why don't you admit that watching Baker paly bad is more exciting then a win!

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Hudson is pretty darn bad. Hope adjustments are made to help him.

Having to start a fourth round rookie in week six is not ideal.

Is that good or bad?

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Is that good or bad?

If we want to come back we need big plays. OBJ, theoretically, provides big plays.

We sacked him AND were held

Why so much cushion??

common defense so zone crap aint working

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

We sacked him AND were held

The Refs have not even thought about calling holding on the Cards

Giving up 13 on 2nd down is a killer

Originally Posted by Jcamm

common defense so zone crap aint working

Play man and Murray kills you with his feet.

Sacckkk

Good job D … watch the fake

now is your time Beker need 6 here

Soubds like Obj coming back in

be a franshise QB right here Baker

Yeah OBJ back in

Good job D!!

That'll do. Garrett and Clowney are getting tons of pressure this game.

We get a score that would be huge

Open some things up with our TEs, then take your shots on those flair plays

Go to the hot hand: DPJ?

How about running the ball... keeping their D honest

Stopping them there should open up the run for us a bit. TOO BAD THEY ARE PLAYING SIX DEFENSIVE LINEMEN!!!

Come on Baker you gotta know it

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Hudson is pretty darn bad. Hope adjustments are made to help him.

So, yea?

Just a KILLER

Baker going to audible to a WR jet sweep, that way OBJ gets crushed and taken back out of the game...

We never learn.. That was Baker.. .he has to see that LB because the tackle had someone over him

Where is our Screen game?

If he woulda swung it to Hunt it woulda been huge

useless

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Hudson is pretty darn bad. Hope adjustments are made to help him.

So, yea?

our OTs are pathetic right now

nice drive

How about a flag?

Hudson is literally trash

off cant stop my grandma were done guys

OMG.. Baker cannot deal with Blitzes... and they are not hiding it

Our tackles are killing us

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Hudson is pretty darn bad. Hope adjustments are made to help him.

So, yea?

trade for a extra OL guy my lord

That’s unfortunate. Our D did its job and O totally collapsed

Backup OT getting destroyed.

Hudson one on one versus Watt is a bit of a mismatch.

Yeah Hudson is horrid

Originally Posted by DogNDC

OMG.. Baker cannot deal with Blitzes... and they are hiding it

Omg stop blaming baker the tackles suck

Without Landry, Chubb, and our OTs our offense is just not good. Better teams can overcome it, we haven’t yet

I guess stefanski has not heard of a screen pass...
'

Baker's stats drop 75% when he is under pressure. There is a graphic out there that shows this.

I hate that we just seem to completely abandon the run though. We not giving our guys a chance to power up.

Yeah he seems to lock on to a read and then just freeze

Originally Posted by DogNDC

OMG.. Baker cannot deal with Blitzes... and they are hiding it

Down two starting tackles, that wasn't a blitz, that was a party at the QB. Baker needs a second to look for a WR.

Hudson is getting his ass kicked. Is there nobody else?

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by DogNDC

OMG.. Baker cannot deal with Blitzes... and they are hiding it

Omg stop blaming baker the tackles suck

I honestly don't understand the motivation they have. They come on here to bash Baker on every play.

Come on tackle

Coulda been another holding

Originally Posted by 85_Browns_Queen

Hudson is getting his ass kicked. Is there nobody else?

Stefanski isn’t even giving help on that side. Atleast get a TE to chip block. Expecting a backup OT to block JJ Watt is ridiculous

Thank goodness

Are our CBs tought to turn around at all?

Good return

It seems like we dont trust PA or screens at all with these OTs

That’s two 3 and outs by the D. No excuses for the O now. Get it done.

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by DogNDC

OMG.. Baker cannot deal with Blitzes... and they are hiding it

Omg stop blaming baker the tackles suck

Both can suck.

Flag … this is laughable

right on cue

Yep

Let’s try hurry up

Finally OBJ.

Man Watt is destroying us

Why is Stefanski trying to run at Watt with a rookie over there

Obj!

What happened to our screen game and our play action and our rollouts?

Phew that was close

keep iy up

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Why is Stefanski trying to run at Watt with a rookie over there

Why is Stefanski trying to run the ball at all when they have six linemen in the game?

Schwartz got manhandled

Ok moving well

We’re gonna have to win this in the air

game over

What in the word is baker doing

Baker!!!!

Baker is hurt.

he is done go on ir

He’s done

And there goes the season

baker may be done the way he came down on that bad shoulder

Man come on baker

Well at least the Baker haters will get their wish...

You baker haters got your wish. Smh

Looks like all the Haters might have got their wish! Good luck

Originally Posted by FrankZ

Well at least the Baker haters will get their wish...

That's just wrong dude.

Who in this thread was wishing injury on baker? I must have missed those post.

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

Looks like all the Haters might have got their wish! Good luck

Haters = Don't give Baker the benefit of the doubt on literally everything

if hes gone so is our season

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Originally Posted by FrankZ

Well at least the Baker haters will get their wish...

That's just wrong dude.

Why? This whole damn thread is full of them every week. Every week. It's like rooting for the browns with Cinci fans.

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

You baker haters got your wish. Smh

Hey, no one wanted Baker hurt.. just to be a better QB and not make dumb mistakes... and fumbling, not scanning the field...etc

Originally Posted by olddog1

if hes gone so is our season

Cam Newton is vaccinated

That looked like the play where Drew Brees tore his shoulder up.

Baker haters got your wish. Happy Keenum day.

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by olddog1

if hes gone so is our season

Cam Newton is vaccinated

Just thinking that. Go get him ASAP cause keenum ain’t cutting it

He’s not played great, but I hope he’s doing good. He’s a tough tough guy

How the hell is he that open

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Originally Posted by FrankZ

Well at least the Baker haters will get their wish...

That's just wrong dude.

Why? This whole damn thread is full of them every week. Every week. It's like rooting for the browns with Cinci fans.

what's wrong about it every single time Mayfield has a bad play they're just creaming their pants

Play man to man this is not that hard

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

You baker haters got your wish. Smh

Hey, no one wanted Baker hurt.. just to be a better QB and not make dumb mistakes... and fumbling, not scanning the field...etc

We will see what average at best qb looks like if baker can't go

The Browns have to have the worst 3rd down Defense in the NFL, right?

to bad woods dont know how to play man def

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by olddog1

if hes gone so is our season

Cam Newton is vaccinated

Just thinking that. Go get him ASAP cause keenum ain’t cutting it

team has no defense

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

How the hell is he that open

Because we rushed seven and their blocking held up.

We might be the worst blitzing team in the nfl

team need a total rebuild

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Play man to man this is not that hard

And then Kyler runs every play for 15 yards.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

team need a total rebuild

This is hilarious.

Defense never ever rises when you need it

We desperately need to force a TO

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Defense never ever rises when you need it

Except in the two games where they did.

I never thought I'd say this, but I miss the days of anger, frustration and sadness.

Expectation and acceptance is so much more depressing.

Okay …

I really dislike walker. Dude is complete trash but constantly jawing

game over and so is our season till they get rid of Wooods!!!!!!!!!!

Hopkins just wide open.. how does happen.. oh #33 just left him

Woods D lets Hopkins run open????

We might as well just onside kick every time

Why cover Hopkins?

Our defense has far too much talent to play like this.

Hopkins is basically an unknown. It's reasonable to not cover him.

harrison is useless

If woods is still here Monday then this team has no desire to win

#33 left his zone to come up.. leaving Hopkins wide open.. Woods better bench some folks

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Woods D lets Hopkins run open????

You honestly think that was by design? It was pretty obviously a miscommunication between the two defenders.

PLEASE SANTA BRING US A REAL DEF CORRD FOR XMAS !!! pppLLLLEEEEAAAASSSEEE!!!!!!!!

AGAIN SAME PLAY AS LAST WEEK?!!

reality is this is 500 team beat the bottom feeders lose to the contenders

This isn’t like this is something that’s new, woods as a dc has been bad since he got here.

Why are we playing zone the whole game? Like damn we the DBs to play man and blitz the crap out of Murray

Sad part of having expectations: Last year we were giddy to get to 500, after this game we will hate the team for being 500. smh.

I get upset with the O, but our defense gives up 40-50 points to any reasonable opponent

play kennem playing baker is dumb in a blowout

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Woods D lets Hopkins run open????

You honestly think that was by design? It was pretty obviously a miscommunication between the two defenders.

That is being coached that way week in and week out. same plays Bolts ran. Same play on two touchdowns today.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

play kennem playing baker is dumb in a blowout

Why would we start making good coaching decisions now

Seems at least the crowd supports him

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Sad part of having expectations: Last year we were giddy to get to 500, after this game we will hate the team for being 500. smh.

Cant take the nest step

gOT TO GIVE bAKER CREDIT HES A GAMMER

That’s the same call Hopkinds got

Man. 30pts a game by the defense is not doing it.. Woods either needs to change or personal has change

Originally Posted by Jcamm

play kennem playing baker is dumb in a blowout

2 score game is not a blowout.

Seemed like the defense communicates much better with smith calling the defense. Unfortunately he is out today

Wow no flag

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

That’s the same call Hopkinds got

Yep. In fact, it was worse than the Hopkins call.

junk check down charlie

OMG stanton is literally that unathletic?

Only against us is that not PI

Originally Posted by Swish

Why are we playing zone the whole game? Like damn we the DBs to play man and blitz the crap out of Murray

Because Kyler Murray is the fastest player on the field. Guys in coverage turn their backs and Kyler runs for 15 yards every time.

we will throw it

Gotta go for it.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

we will throw it

They have six defensive linemen in the game.

I still think we gotta go hurry up

we are useless without Jarvis

Not a sack on fourth down!

Nice

dink and dunk

Man, if Baker wasn't having a complete meltdown game this would be a close one right now!

If the Refs didn't spot them 14 points we might even be winning X-x

The announcers are making fun of our Defense

Originally Posted by Jcamm

dink and dunk

Prevent defense.

Originally Posted by DaveyD

The announcers are making fun of our Defense

As they should.

Butt fumble Sanchez shouldn’t be making fun of anyone.

True. 100%.

let them make fun of it maybe stepfanski will finally realize woods aint it!!!

Flag

figures

Jarvis is our spark on offense, we need that on defense but don’t have one. Myles has to be more consistent. He could really be that guy. I just don’t he wants to. We need someone

Lamar jackson is gonna have a field day with this Defense when we play them if they don't fix it.

Man.. OK.. these refs are so key on calling holding on us

Originally Posted by HarleyDawg51

Lamar jackson is gonna have a field day with this Defense when we play them if they don't fix it.

He'd have a field day with it if we do get it fixed.

hunt at least tries

We gotta pick up the pac

These refs!!!???

The Browns need to speed the pace up a bit.

We can win this!!!

Wow they picked it up. You could see the disappointment I. Their faces

hunt runs hard

Let’s go Kareem

Originally Posted by Homewood Dog

We can win this!!!

Technically true

Goodness we waste a minute for one yard

Watt is just owning us

If Hudson never plays another down for us it’ll be too soo

figurs

drop

Obj drop

Just cant do it

Kick it please

jarvis grabs that

Never throw to OBJ on 4th again!

OBJ coming through in the clutch again. Lol

So frustrating

Yep . Baker didn't catch the ball again!

2nd week in a row OBJ dropped a clutch pass. He better not complain about his targets this week.

not enough time for comeback now

Originally Posted by Jcamm

drop

Terrible drop by Baker!!!

Jesus obj catch the damn ball

Originally Posted by Swish

Kick it please

So we can still be down two scores?

Got to have that catch. On the money throw. Brutal.

Hurry upland get the trade done before deadline

just another 500 middle of pack team

That 3 could have been the difference... wishful thinking. Murray will score again...

6 points left on the field

Where are the TE's this game?

baker cant throw and catch to

Stefanski absolutely hates when we score points. That don’t come from his offense. Dude has cost us so many points already. He’s the worst 4th down coach in my lifetime.

keep asking for the ball OBJ

Defense gives up another TD?

hunts down now

Points are points and when you don’t take them you have less room to make mistakes to get them back

Hunt down this season is done , cant overcome all the injuries

keep playing loose zone boys

Originally Posted by boofers20

6 points left on the field

Way more than that

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Hunt down this season is done , cant overcome all the injuries

Yeah, I know they say every team has injuries... but I RARELY see this many, and seems to happen to us every 2-3 years.

I'm so depressed.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

keep playing loose zone boys

They don't have the defensive backs to play aggressive man. Ward is burnt toast it seems. More passes tend to go to his side of the field compared to Newsome. Interesting.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Hunt down this season is done , cant overcome all the injuries

You have to be the happiest person on the board

Probably should just decline the penalty

lose 2 to Balt split with Pitt Cinn 4 more losses there

Omg James harden..err Hopkins finally got called

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Hunt down this season is done , cant overcome all the injuries

You have to be the happiest person on the board

Im gitty with good karma

Hunt on the cart. It just doesn't stop. Browns curse lives on

This feels like we suck again. Only this time an entire season is gonna go down the tubes.

Originally Posted by Woofurious

This feels like we suck again. Only this time an entire season is gonna go down the tubes.

The easy part of the schedule looms just as our players start dropping like flies.

he was shoved into murry

THAT was a personal foul???????

What a crap roughing call!

this ref crew should never do another game again

SERIOUSLY!

This feels like a season ending type two weeks. Brutal injuries and losses

Omg! These refs

What the hell was that refs!!!

Originally Posted by Jcamm

this ref crew should never do another game again

Why they're carrying the script out perfectly

garett a no show today

That was a terrible call

There goes hunt for season. Done for. Our run game has been decimated. We have no offensive tackles. All it took was two games to take away enough key players to derail the season.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

garett a no show today

Minus a sack

The Browns are going to have to draft another defensive back to pair with Newsome. Ward is getting the majority of the passes thrown to his side of the field.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

garett a no show today

he already has 1.5 sacks today..

no way we comeback in this one cant win 11 against 18

That’s game. Can’t win like this. Not a single thing has gone right. Berea must have built on burial grounds

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

The Browns are going to have to draft another defensive back to pair with Newsome. Ward is getting the majority of the passes thrown to his side of the field.

Greedy Williams

And we’re going into Thursday night completely banged up.

If there's one positive thing to take away from this game - it's that the LB you guys drafted out of Notre Dame has limited the damage that Murray has done with his legs.

Originally Posted by Swish

And we’re going into Thursday night completely banged up.

We can only hope the two linemen and Chubb get healthy quick.

That’s game. Defense gassed and gave up.

Letting them rip off 16 yards down 16 in the fourth quarter is just effort.

defense given up

Damn JOK hurt too

later guys im out of here.....

We’re gonna get brutally roasted tomorrow morning by everyone.

never draft a defensive player from LSU again

Murry with 4 TDs. Who is the guy that said good QBs have issues in 30 MPH winds?

Originally Posted by Swish

We’re gonna get brutally roasted tomorrow morning by everyone.

As we should. We got blown out at home against a team with no head coach and their best defensive player out.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

never draft a defensive player from LSU again

Should add Ohio State defensive backs to that list too.

We've given up a lot of points last two week, so odd the focus is so much on Baker.

8 and 9 maybe rest of the way

Now the typical quit by browns players. Same ole Browns reared their ugly heads today. We suck again. Welcome back to the Factory losers.

Baker is out of the game.

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

If there's one positive thing to take away from this game - it's that the LB you guys drafted out of Notre Dame has limited the damage that Murray has done with his legs.

Imagine if Woods actually thought highly of LBs

Originally Posted by olddog1

later guys im out of here.....

Same here. Between the poor officiating, injuries, a defense that can't stop anybody at times, we had no chance. Pathetic...

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker is out of the game.

If Mayfield can't play against the Broncos, and the QB play is improved with Keenum, I would say that Mayfield's fate and contract status is sealed at that point, no?

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker is out of the game.

If Mayfield can't play against the Broncos, and the QB play is improved with Keenum, I would say that Mayfield's fate and contract status is sealed at that point, no?

smdh

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker is out of the game.

If Mayfield can't play against the Broncos, and the QB play is improved with Keenum, I would say that Mayfield's fate and contract status is sealed at that point, no?

smdh

It's a valid question isn't it?

No not at all.

Originally Posted by bbrowns32

Originally Posted by olddog1

later guys im out of here.....

Same here. Between the poor officiating, injuries, a defense that can't stop anybody at times, we had no chance. Pathetic...

Just like old times.

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker is out of the game.

If Mayfield can't play against the Broncos, and the QB play is improved with Keenum, I would say that Mayfield's fate and contract status is sealed at that point, no?

He will be franchised next year at worst. I bet he gets a 5 year contract.

next 5 games could all be L's

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker is out of the game.

If Mayfield can't play against the Broncos, and the QB play is improved with Keenum, I would say that Mayfield's fate and contract status is sealed at that point, no?

smdh

It's a valid question isn't it?

Yes it is, and yes it would be.

I mean not SEALED, but I wouldn't want to be his agent if that happened.

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker is out of the game.

If Mayfield can't play against the Broncos, and the QB play is improved with Keenum, I would say that Mayfield's fate and contract status is sealed at that point, no?

And how do you come by this. We should beat the Broncos if Chubb is back!

Case keenum looks like all of the qbs qe have had before we drafted baker.

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker is out of the game.

If Mayfield can't play against the Broncos, and the QB play is improved with Keenum, I would say that Mayfield's fate and contract status is sealed at that point, no?

He will be franchised next year at worst. I bet he gets a 5 year contract.

Franchise tag next year is $28.5M for QB's I think...hmm.

Originally Posted by Swish

next 5 games could all be L's

Yep, and Baker will still get a contract.

We are the biggest pretenders in the league. At least this wasn't a heartbreaker. Another game where either Baker, the defense or both cost us a game. The refs spotted the Cards a smooth 7 off top so they contributed too.

Originally Posted by Moxdawg

Originally Posted by Schadenfreude

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Baker is out of the game.

If Mayfield can't play against the Broncos, and the QB play is improved with Keenum, I would say that Mayfield's fate and contract status is sealed at that point, no?

And how do you come by this. We should beat the Broncos if Chubb is back!

This assumes you have healthy offensive linemen - Von Miller might be older, but he can still get after the QB at times.

Back to the basement of our division we go

injuries and playing a harder schedule is killing us , plus a overrated defense and OBJ checking out . Baker too busy shooting TV ads and being average not helping things. This is not a playoff team the offseason moves are a disaster.

Originally Posted by Swish

next 5 games could all be L's

After today, I'd say we'll be lucky to win 3 the rest of the season.

We are the Iowa of the NFL.

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Swish

next 5 games could all be L's

Yep, and Baker will still get a contract.

Why would anyone give Baker a new contract when he is under contract next year?

if Colt comes in and scores I will quit watching this team.

We can't convert on Fourth downs and we can't stop opposing offenses on 3rd or 4th down. We are not that good

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Swish

next 5 games could all be L's

Yep, and Baker will still get a contract.

and? we've seen QB's get contracts and then a season or two get traded. just because they get a contract doesn't mean the team wants them. it could mean there's just no better options. Jared goff, ryan tannehill.

Originally Posted by Swish

We’re gonna get brutally roasted tomorrow morning by everyone.

I'm not listening to the radio or ESPN at all this week.

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Swish

next 5 games could all be L's

Yep, and Baker will still get a contract.

and? we've seen QB's get contracts and then a season or two get traded. just because they get a contract doesn't mean the team wants them. it could mean there's just no better options. Jared goff, ryan tannehill.

Like I said earlier, Baker and three first for Russell Wilson, who says no?

(The Seahawks.)

well we are personally lowering the % statistic that says you should go for it on 4th down, so there's that

Why listen to radio or especially ESPN roast our team? We have been roasting this woefully underperforming walking mash unit for 3 weeks now more than any of these talking heads ever could.

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Swish

next 5 games could all be L's

Yep, and Baker will still get a contract.

and? we've seen QB's get contracts and then a season or two get traded. just because they get a contract doesn't mean the team wants them. it could mean there's just no better options. Jared goff, ryan tannehill.

Like I said earlier, Baker and three first for Russell Wilson, who says no?

(The Seahawks.)

i hope it doesnt come to that and baker turns it around.

but if it doesn't, i rather take the chance on Watson.

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Swish

next 5 games could all be L's

Yep, and Baker will still get a contract.

and? we've seen QB's get contracts and then a season or two get traded. just because they get a contract doesn't mean the team wants them. it could mean there's just no better options. Jared goff, ryan tannehill.

You could well be right. But I'll take solace knowing that I will get to see him play after OBJ is shipped.

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Swish

next 5 games could all be L's

Yep, and Baker will still get a contract.

and? we've seen QB's get contracts and then a season or two get traded. just because they get a contract doesn't mean the team wants them. it could mean there's just no better options. Jared goff, ryan tannehill.

Like I said earlier, Baker and three first for Russell Wilson, who says no?

(The Seahawks.)

That might have a better chance of happening than you think; especially since Paul Allen's sister who's now the owner doesn't really care for football all that much.

No to baker’s contract. Anyone could run this team.

But joe woods needs to be run out of town yesterday.