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Can our offense move the ball today? Huge challenge for us IMO

Big game today, obviously. I hope Johnson can run the ball and run it well.

I hope our below average QB only throws 14 receptions for 250 yards and 3 TD and no Int.

Hope I'm wrong but I think we step back today, we never play good up there

Originally Posted by mgh888

I hope our below average QB only throws 14 receptions for 250 yards and 3 TD and no Int.

14 receptions to 16 different receivers !

If Baker can't outplay Jones we in deep doo doo

at least weather is ok

alright boys!!! Game time!!! Hoping that the back up running backs can have a big day!

Let’s go browns

Our ball to start

Someone please tell schwartz to stop returning it from the endzone

Ok Baker! let's go!

Good start Johnson

Let’s get it!!

Johnson for 5!

air mail

We start in the hurry up … baker with a poor pass to DPJ

Baker... had Peoples-Jones and just over threw him... too excited...

moving the ball early. I like it.

nice

Great Run!!!

Good run johnson

Hell yes! Johnson.

Too quick bake but I like it

Thats why you sign the o-line!!

Very good catch bryant

Nice Johnson

Good play Baker! Thought for sure that play was blown up

Real nice looking drive so far.

JOHNSON!!!!!

Excellent job .. Johnson nearly took it

Oh Man.. That kid Johnson has some vision!!

WOOOOOOOT!

Offsides

Almost

Johnson to the 2 … great run and block. Gotta score

KEEP FEEDING JOHNSON!!!!

Johnson lookin' real real good!

We go wildcat with the damn FB … so dumb

Don't love that... would like to see an I formation...

trick plays still a issue

Too cute

Freaking dropped it … are you kidding gme

DROP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You've got to be kidding me!

Just a killer

We freaking stink in the red zone

Thanks Njuk

Man that drive fell apart... friggin Njoku....

Come on chief

Kick it

never gonna learn

DANG!...

1.5 yards! Go for it.

TD YES??

HOOPER!!!!!

TD!!!!!

Hopefully defense came to play like the offense

Wow great catch

Hoop!

He was in, good catch.

7-0

7-0 good guys

TD!!!!

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Stefanski blows in red zone. Seriously average 10ypc and we do dumb things

That was on Njuke

That 4th down play scared the hell outta me, but we got a TD.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

We go wildcat with the damn FB … so dumb

I really hope stefanski quits this. It was a waste of a down and almost cost us a touchdown

Baker starting off on fire today guys!!

Originally Posted by Swish

Baker starting off on fire today guys!!

Hope D is hot as well

Come on D

Originally Posted by Swish

Baker starting off on fire today guys!!

The whole team is! Stefanski really needs to stop being cute. What's the success rate of a fullback wildcat formation

Why is Anthony Schwartz On This Team, if they are not going to use him???

2nd and 10

Get off the field!!

lets go D

Nothing is easier than going against our 3rd down defense

We shouldn’t go zone on 3rd and a long

Too much zone

Another 3rd and long … please

2/2 on third downs of coures

Flag on them

THEY SO BAD SUK AS LINEBACKERS ON 3RD DOWN.

On 3rd down, there should be NO LINEBACKERS except
lined up,

ON THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE,
THAT!!!

would get you off the field.

91 is slower than molasses

And there goes my picture.

Back to the oks D I guess

Defense gotta get off the field on 3rd down

It’s almost comical how bad we are at 3rd down on defense. It’s as close to a gimme as you can get regardless of yards to gain

They are picking us apart

Joe jackson should be bagging groceries

This is pathetic

We have zero speed in the middle of the defense

How long woods gonna have Garett and Clowney on the sideline

every time you see the Browns linebackers,

playing 4 yards off the line of scrimmage, you know it's going to be a positive play for the bad guys offens

We are totally off balance

7-7

Finally garrett gets there

It can’t be understated how bad our front 7 is, particularly linebackers

3rd down every single time

That is EMBARRASSING

Only 4 men on the line of scrimmage won't hold up,

in spite of it got the sack that time.

Our third down defense needs addressed ASAP.

Bad defense

Wasn’t the browns sack record 12.5 by miller? So is that the record?

How do you not see that coming

Ive seen enough of harrison

Swiss cheese defense today,

useless defense

Until you have a DC that values linebackers it won’t change.

had no doubt they would score a TD

Did I hear these announcers say that the browns are the 3rd ranked overall defense?

Mac Jones is 6/6 and they have converted every 3rd down … and went 16 plays

What a complete failure by the defense. All that time. Good lord

Garbage. Gonna be a long day if they don’t figure something out on defense.

Joe Woods craptastic 3rd down Defense

FIRE JOE WOODS

Sorry but we still need a new DC . This scheme sucks almost as bad as the players. Zone defense does not work anymore in the nfl. Atleast not the way we play it

This defense BLOWS! Can NEVER get off the field on 3RD AND LONG! You guys suck! Whoever has the ball last wins this game. So tired of watching this defensive crap. SMH

Baker has too play perfect with our Defense

That Patriot player did not get two feet down in bounds.
but!

He benefited from the ole, .... well his last step was still , (sort of ) raising from it's prior step.

If that had been a Cleveland or other non league favorite team, player, they would have said,
UH! no touchdown.

3rd and 13

Bunch of old slow guys tourching us

Originally Posted by THROW LONG

That Patriot player did not get two feet down in bounds.
but!

He benefited from the ole, .... well his last step was still , (sort of ) raising from it's prior step.

If that had been a Cleveland or other non league favorite team, player, they would have said,
UH! no touchdown.

It was a TD.

here comes pass happy drive

It looks like the Browns Defense has learned NOTHING about lining linebackers 5 yards deep, 4 yards deep,

or putting players out of position to challenge on the line of scrimmage.

Come on O!

I dont like saying to fire people, but Joe Woods just doesn’t do it for me

DPJ in the tank … drop

Cue the meltdown .. that was freaking AWFUL

Baker junk

Ummm?

Well Baker.. Why did you throw that ball??

Bad Baker

This year I learned.

This year I learned the AFC east, they don't try to build their teams by acquiring the most talented roster as the end all be all.
Sure they'll pursue it, but it's not their end all be all like the Browns collective thinking seems to be.

In the AFC east, they attempt to acquire precision of scheme as the end all be all.

This feels eerily similar to when we went to NE a few years ago

that will do it

Bake what was you looking at

That was a really, really bad pass.

Man good thing we got rid of OBJ. That fixed everything

People throw their hands up and bitch about how we get no respect.

We deserve no respect.

Ugh

It looked like even if that guy didnt pick it off the other guy would have

This one’s gonna hurt

Well,
We haven't seen much of a negative two plays so fast since the opener against Kansas city and the fumbled snap on the punt.

Up and down Baker proving he is just a guy

Taki taki is SOFT

I lost my DirecTV signal, I guess I missed a bunch of bad stuff?

is only we played sun 500 teams every week

I hate when we go empty and have no threat of a run game. When we did it on 2nd down it screwed the series IMO

It’s early in the 2nd quarter.

Playoffs are a pipe dream with this defense and baker

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Man good thing we got rid of OBJ. That fixed everything

ANTHONY SCHWARTZ YO !!

They are bigger, faster, stronger and pushing us around. Joe woods better figure something out quickly

Ball game

I dont know what happens during TV timeout.. but Joe Woods needs to be laying into everyone on D... They are sleep walking out there!!

same script come out blazing then mistake kills us

Wow you guys are just waiting to complain I really don't think some of you are happy unless the Browns make mistakes ... smh

It's ONLY the 2nd QUARTER ... This game is a long way from over !!!!

We were averaging almost 9ypc and stefanski comes out throwing in a tie game. No way that’s the analytics

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Man good thing we got rid of OBJ. That fixed everything

You couldn't wait, could you. It was a bad pass. Brady has two already in Tampa.

This is an utter disaster

Straight razors 2 for $20! Get your straight razors here! An additional $5 off for the Baker haters.

here comes the slew of flags

Is this the game Anthony Schwartz is going to catch his 90+ yard touchdown???

HERE WE GO!

Please stefanski put your ego aside and let pelt call the plays

Back in business.

I'm sick of the dink and dunk offense.

SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO CHUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TELE-GRAPHED Pre snap offense.

A little too high

Wellp

Originally Posted by THROW LONG

TELE-GRAPHED Pre snap offense.

What?

Baker looks horrendous

Nice Baker

Schwartz needs to be on the bench for the time being

So far throwing to Schwartz has been a waste of time.

Cut OBJ again!

Baker what are you doing

Cue the 99 yard TD drive

WHAT A PUNT

Defense better step up now!!!

How much more evidence do we need to make the call on Baker

I think were getting the Viking game version of Baker today....

Originally Posted by Jcamm

How much more evidence do we need to make the call on Baker

A lot?

we also need a top flight WR , Garrett Wilson we need you

Originally Posted by Jcamm

How much more evidence do we need to make the call on Baker

One week you guys LOVE Baker and the Next You HATE him like a bunch of yo yo's ... SMH

Don’t call out baker for being trash or you’ll be called a hater. But dude isn’t the answer, atleast not in this offense. Dude couldn’t make a touch throw if life depended on it

Originally Posted by Jcamm

How much more evidence do we need to make the call on Baker

Why do you even watch. It was a bad pass . Let it go.

Originally Posted by Jcamm

How much more evidence do we need to make the call on Baker

Baker is our QB, get over it. Nobody said he was the second coming, but he's better than average OR anything else we've trotted out in the last 20 years.

For everyone thinking shwartz was the problem.. That DB was already to the inside of that route....

I am not loving the play calling. NE has a top pass defense and a poor to mediocre run defense, E Johnson has been running all over them and we are passing significantly more than we are running it.

Originally Posted by redddog

Originally Posted by THROW LONG

TELE-GRAPHED Pre snap offense.

What?

the Run to D'ernest for 1 yard could not have been more telegraphed.

the play that followed, similar, clearly a mid pass.

Now.
WOOT! <purple, they threw it to Schwartz, Finally, .. annd

Not so great, he stumbled, and
well at least this time, he knocked the ball away from the defender by diving at the player, almost could have been an offensive pass intereference,
and
Honestly,
Baker could not have made it an easier catch for him, or somebody to catch, Baker "floated" it up to that spot, I mean,

E-VENTUALLY, Schwartz has to become a weapon.

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Originally Posted by Jcamm

How much more evidence do we need to make the call on Baker

One week you guys LOVE Baker and the Next You HATE him like a bunch of yo yo's ... SMH

I honestly think they watch just so they can watch Baker have a bad game. They sit and sit and sit and hope he has one

Wow.. what crappy D

What call is that. Start Keenum and bench Baker? Really you think that’s the answer?

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Don’t call out baker for being trash or you’ll be called a hater. But dude isn’t the answer, atleast not in this offense. Dude couldn’t make a touch throw if life depended on it

Another one ... if you are a true Browns fan you would root for every player and stop the negativity ...

Lol. Dime defense when they are in their goal line.

Just running up the gut...

Trash defense

ugh

bad guys will remember how well that run went.

We stink right now

kepp telling me our D is top 5

Oh boy…..

Originally Posted by THROW LONG

Originally Posted by redddog

Originally Posted by THROW LONG

TELE-GRAPHED Pre snap offense.

What?

the Run to D'ernest for 1 yard could not have been more telegraphed.

the play that followed, similar, clearly a mid pass.

Now.
WOOT! <purple, they threw it to Schwartz, Finally, .. annd

Not so great, he stumbled, and
well at least this time, he knocked the ball away from the defender by diving at the player, almost could have been an offensive pass intereference,
and
Honestly,
Baker could not have made it an easier catch for him, or somebody to catch, Baker "floated" it up to that spot, I mean,

E-VENTUALLY, Schwartz has to become a weapon.

Gibberish. Every week.

Need a stop!!

Weird to call run plays when they are working instead of passing. Crazy idea right Kevin?

At the moment Mac Jones is WAY better than baker

Horrible defense. Troy Hill? Who?

3rd and Long = 1st down

We desperately need an upgrade at DT

No blitzing huh. Just gonna let him stand back there

3rd and long … their best play

Blowout incoming apparently. I hope they take a long hard look at Woods in the offseason and seriously need to rethink the playcalling

They are double teaming, chipping ..etc.. on Miles Garrett.. the rest of the line has to win their battles

This is a a freaking nightmare

NE 6 for 6 on 3rd down.

Our defense is getting sliced and diced every way possible

Look at this on defense,

HAVE A LOOK, Count the number on the DL,

4 man front, negative play. (for the defense)
4 man front, negative play, too easy on the offense.

4 man front, offense moves it.
4 man front, all the pass coverage is playing off, and the dinks and dunks are always complete.

4 man front, not so great of an outcome. for the Browns on defense.

Now, when they Challenge with greater than 5,
they have a chance to make a play

RIGHT DOWN THE FIELD

Not to mention they are CHEWING the clock

I don’t know if anyone has thought of this but stopping the other team from getting yards would be helpful.

Imposing their will...

Woods might be worse than Jim o’neil

FIRE JOE WOODS

Game. Set. Match.

There’s a throw baker can’t make

Come on D make a play

As i said: cue the 99 yard drive

99 yards like it was nothing.

right inbetween our 2 FA busts

Mac jones > baker

Man, that was a nice pass and catch.

Not looking good at all right now.

Time to leave this chat so the game turns around... so hard to watch a game with all the fair-weather-fans.

That was an amazing catch.

Never know which team will show up from week to week.
Consistency isn’t in our vocabulary

We are playing like crap!!.... One team is coached correctly and the other team is not

most overrated team ever, OBJ saying I told ya so

21-7 Bad Guys

Feels like this loss will be a major one

mac jones is the best qb ever....or is it the d?

Ball game

Outcoached at every level

I hope we get blown out. We deserve it if we play like this.

never expected this kid they have at QB torching our D...

Woods vs Belichick.

Honestly, what did we expect?

Berry deserves a lot of blame too, he constructed this trash defense

JOE WOODS HAS TO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Jcamm

most overrated team ever, OBJ saying I told ya so

Man Why Don't You Go Away and Find a New Team to Rag on ...

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Feels like this loss will be a major one

Our playoff chance are something like 78% with a win and 38% with a loss.

One week, Superman, another week, Clark Kent.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

I hope we get blown out. We deserve it if we play like this.

Not sure why you would hope for a blowout, but we definitely deserve it.

Cant wait for the Stefanski presser!!.. Or the media questions!!..everytine we get away from running the ball... we get in trouble... Stefanski does not get it.. and he does not have the QB to throw 30 times a game...

So now Stefanski got his excuse to not run the ball

Welp ...... I think I'm gonna take a nap ... apparently the Browns are.

I wish I could go out and cut the lawn right now... but I don't have one.

damn wish it wasn't snowing so I could mulch my leaves...

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Feels like this loss will be a major one

Our playoff chance are something like 78% with a win and 38% with a loss.

Playoffs?! PLAYOFFS!? Pla….playoffs!!!??

Originally Posted by Jcamm

kepp telling me our D is top 5

It is when teams don't know how to challenge it or beat it.

Seems to me like that was the first time Newsome was challenged by a pass deep behind him all year. He was playing make up the gap and it was a complete pass.

Nobody said these spots of games would never occur.

Question is how do the Browns respond from here??

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Feels like this loss will be a major one

Guessing that a loss here probably ends us controlling our own playoff hopes.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Berry deserves a lot of blame too, he constructed this trash defense

You and JCamm need to lock yourselves in a room together

This Dr. Jekyl Mr. Hyde defense is really starting to grind my gears. No excuse for them to let NE cruise 99 yrs down the field. Their receivers made some great catches but it shouldn't even come to that.

his excuse for not running the ball... JOE WOODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Getting out coached all over the place

Why are we going empty on 1st down

3rd and long for us. Too bad we aren’t facing their defense

DID YOU SEE THAT PLAY ACTION!!!!

me neither.

Playoffs are not gonna happen. We’re not a playoff team.

I mean…the Patriots aren’t a playoff team.

Some of you guys give up so soon. At least wait until the 4th quarter to call it a game.

It’s like we have totally lost our freaking brains, talent, etc

Lets only run when it is obvious we're running...don't understand the playcalling on offense (well or defense either, but whole other story)

Goodnight, game over, drive home safely folks. Patriots blow out Browns. Shocking. Coaching, coaching, coaching. Oh and Baker sucking early. But let's keep throwing the ball all over the place. No playoffs this year folks. Not with the schedule we have the rest of the way. Staying out of the basement will be a miracle. Just hope the Browns beat Detroit. Geezus...what a freaking embarrassment. SMH

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Berry deserves a lot of blame too, he constructed this trash defense

You and JCamm need to lock yourselves in a room together

Chalk it up to battered fan syndrome.

Stefanski can go too if he doesn’t want to give up playcalling. It’s not like this team is well coached anyways. Something has to change and it isn’t.

So both sides of the ball didn’t show up today. Great.

is this a different ballgame if Chubb plays?? I would think so

It just feels like they are completely dominating every facet of the game. With our talent that should not happen.

They score a TD here and it’s a boat race.

What a joke this team is. Super Bowl contender

This happens when Stefanski thinks Baker can throw us back in the game... NOT!!!... So another 3 and out... and here were go again!!..

4 + minutes left. Easy for them to score twice yet

Originally Posted by 85_Browns_Queen

This Dr. Jekyl Mr. Hyde defense is really starting to grind my gears. No excuse for them to let NE cruise 99 yrs down the field. Their receivers made some great catches but it shouldn't even come to that.

99 years down the field. Whew, that would be a journey.

The only thing worse than losing like this today is listening to all this negativity ... I Mean you need to REMEBER 1-31 I'm outa here I want to enjoy my Browns and it is almost impossible on here !!

It’s alarming how poor our defense has been on 3rd down and how poor our offense has been on 3rd down

Originally Posted by leadtheway

4 + minutes left. Easy for them to score twice yet

Still time left for the Browns to win. Faith! Faith! Faith! Faith! Faith! Faith! Faith!

flag of course

Flag … our defense simply cannot get off the field

I think a lot of you are sleeping on Mac Jonee (THAT is what a future franchise QB looks like) and this Patriots team. They're going to make the playoffs and might just win a game or two.

We will be sitting at home and trying to figure out how much to pay a league average game manager at QB.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

That’s a really , really tough call

I wish, sometimes, that I could just walk away from this team forever. 45 years of almost constant disappointment.

Flag for what?

yes our D has been pretty good at times, not today, but other times, but overall, they still need a lot of work, and I'm still not convinced that Woods is the DC to make the magic happen, I'm more inclined to think he's not. Baker has not been real great to day either, he needs to see the field a bit better. We really miss Chubb and Hunt.

There is still plenty of time if we play this the right way. It's not even half time yet and people talking about raking their leaves. Calm your [censored].

Wow. Took that long for a total bs call on us? New season record

What a bs call.

oh, the making up of penalties by the refs again...

It would be nice to get a stop, but I dont have any confidence in our offense to get to 20 points regardless

That was not pass interference

Originally Posted by GraffZ06

I think a lot of you are sleeping on Mac Jonee (THAT is what a future franchise QB looks like) and this Patriots team. They're going to make the playoffs and might just win a game or two.

We will be sitting at home and trying to figure out how much to pay a league average game manager at QB.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Have to hope this is the reason we haven’t paid him yet. They don’t believe in him either

Originally Posted by Swish

Flag for what?

Nothing.

Defense celebrating a routine play…sounds right

If defense can get off the field and we can get a FG, we aren’t out of it yet.

But in the 2nd half, Stefanski needs to remember that we can actually run the ball sometimes. Ya know, with the best O line in the league and all that.

Originally Posted by GraffZ06

I think a lot of you are sleeping on Mac Jonee (THAT is what a future franchise QB looks like) and this Patriots team. They're going to make the playoffs and might just win a game or two.

We will be sitting at home and trying to figure out how much to pay a league average game manager at QB.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Belicheck could make me or you look like a star qb.

Television time out.
...

Here we go!!

Talk about an embarrassment

Our secondary is having a really really hard time getting off blocks

nice kind of tavkle hill

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by GraffZ06

I think a lot of you are sleeping on Mac Jonee (THAT is what a future franchise QB looks like) and this Patriots team. They're going to make the playoffs and might just win a game or two.

We will be sitting at home and trying to figure out how much to pay a league average game manager at QB.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Have to hope this is the reason we haven’t paid him yet. They don’t believe in him either

They were gonna let him play his way into his contract number. It’s smart. Saved themselves 50 million.

OMG.. They are just running all over us

They are ATTACKING our DEs .. we look freaking awful

And Harrison goes out

It's like we are standing still

We have been on our heels the whole game.

I'm really disapointed. I really thought we'd do much better than this. Terrible!!!

Miles G... not standing his end up

This is by far the worst we’ve looked all year

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

And Harrison goes out

It doesn’t seem to matter who’s in right now.

Still not seeing any blitz...

Pats have the best offensive line the Browns have played against all year.
?? True or False ^?

Fake handoffs and reversals freeze our whole defense

This is a disgrace. They should be embarrassed.

Playoffs. Good lord. What a joke.

It would be nice if the team shows up in the 2nd half
Total beat down so far

Originally Posted by Swish

If defense can get off the field and we can get a FG, we aren’t out of it yet.

But in the 2nd half, Stefanski needs to remember that we can actually run the ball sometimes. Ya know, with the best O line in the league and all that.

Stefanski doesn't know his *** from a hole in the ground. It will be Baker Mayfield passing show in the second half. This guy simply doesn't understand his own football team and it's strengths. He bails so fast it's alarming. Joe Woods needs to go. There is NO question about this. But Stefanski needs to go as the play caller. He just doesn't get it. At all.

they got our number

McDaniels is so much better than Stefanski

Yeah, this is what we are: a .500 team who cant sustain success and has major issues on defense and with our QB

Anthony Walker blew up that screen pass attempt for no gain.

Patriots take a time out with under 30 seconds to go in the half.

He has all day to pass.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

McDaniels is so much better than Stefanski

Thats why he has never made it as a HC ... lol

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Still not seeing any blitz...

You know who the defensive coordinator is right? Don't hold your breath on any blitzing. Zero understanding of our defensive personnel and their capabilities. It is maddening.

We need to start an AVP chant!!!

Most teams would be blitzing the crap out of a rookie qb, not woods. He rather play zone and let him get comfy

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Yeah, this is what we are: a .500 team who cant sustain success and has major issues on defense and with our QB

What'dya think they should do

Go sign somebody like Clowney??

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Originally Posted by leadtheway

McDaniels is so much better than Stefanski

Thats why he has never made it as a HC ... lol

To be fair, he’s spent most of his life in the warm bussom of Beli

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Originally Posted by leadtheway

McDaniels is so much better than Stefanski

Thats why he has never made it as a HC ... lol

McDaniels is a better play caller without question. He doesn't need to be a head coach. OC is his strength. It is not Stefanski's. That should be clear to anyone watching the Browns at this point.

At least Doug Dieken is good on commercials

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Originally Posted by leadtheway

McDaniels is so much better than Stefanski

Thats why he has never made it as a HC ... lol

Neither has stefanski, and as a playcaller how many rings does stefanski have opposed to McDaniels.. I’ll wait

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

At least Doug Dieken is good on commercials

Good call LOL

Patriots punter making easy money today

24-7

And they get the ball

Myles Garrett: knocked that down. brought up 4th and 14.

next play a made field goal by the bad guys. and 24-7 is the score bad guys lead.

Before this game would have started I would have said:
First one to 27 wins.

There is still time, still time. a Whole Half to play. plus 17 seconds

For the betterment of all involved: Schwartz shouldn’t return kicks anymore

Hope that’s not a concussion for Schwartz

Just kneel it. Geez. 🤦🏻

Why are we even throwing

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Originally Posted by leadtheway

McDaniels is so much better than Stefanski

Thats why he has never made it as a HC ... lol

Neither has stefanski, and as a playcaller how many rings does stefanski have opposed to McDaniels.. I’ll wait

lol HEAD COACH you need to understand what is being discussed

Well Stefanski not thinking on that play!!...

Schwartz may have a concussion after that car wreck.

Ronnie Harrison had a lower body ouchie earlier.

Well it's time to grab lunch and watch whoever is on Fox. The Browns blow and are not worth wasting my time anymore today. You guys enjoy the blowout. I'm sure Stefanski will have some wonderful insight on the game like "We have to put the players in a better position" or some other nonsense. And the media won't challenge him either. What a bunch of crap. Stop kissing this guy's behind.

Why is baker double clutching like that

Baker taking his sweet time trying to read the defense like it’s in Arabic

Outside of the 1st drive by the offense, total team garbage

I know they say the game isn't over BUT...Belicheck teams don't give up that kind of lead at home so this one in done

Last year was a fluke

Originally Posted by Westy15

Outside of the 1st drive by the offense, total team garbage

Yep. Real rough game.

Well I hate to leave you REAL Browns fans because of a few that aren't but I love watching this team even on a bad day ... I'll be back later during the week this is the reason I stayed away for 3 weeks NEGATIVITY ...

Pats will have to have a total meltdown for us to come back in this.

I want to say the defense just wasn't prepared to play. But that's not it, any time we face a well coached offense we are unable to stop them.

Miami beat the Ravens by blitzing the crap out of Lamar. We sit back at let Mac Jones pick us apart with absolutely no pressure at all.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Originally Posted by leadtheway

McDaniels is so much better than Stefanski

Thats why he has never made it as a HC ... lol

Neither has stefanski, and as a playcaller how many rings does stefanski have opposed to McDaniels.. I’ll wait

You spend every post either criticizing someone on the Browns or blowing someone on the other team!

so long as woods is in charge all rookie qbs gonna look Bret Farvve

Our coaching staff is simply getting their butts kicked today too. We are getting out played, out tried, and out coached

Originally Posted by The Beast

Well it's time to grab lunch and watch whoever is on Fox. The Browns blow and are not worth wasting my time anymore today. You guys enjoy the blowout. I'm sure Stefanski will have some wonderful insight on the game like "We have to put the players in a better position" or some other nonsense. And the media won't challenge him either. What a bunch of crap. Stop kissing this guy's behind.

Looney Tunes, Coyote chasing the Road Runner.
Latin, Front Runniris, Fair Weatheris.

Joe Woods was playing a Dime Defense when the Pats had 1st down on their 1 yd line. Wow.

my grandma been dead for 35 and she could out woods!!!!

Originally Posted by boofers20

I know they say the game isn't over BUT...Belicheck teams don't give up that kind of lead at home so this one in done

This one was done soon as Baker threw that first pick. D can't stop anyone so far this season on 3rd down. I turned tis crap off after the bad guys went up 14-7. Looks like I made the right choice. Off to play some video games, maybe watch a flick. Have fun raising your blood pressure guys.

Thought I would stop by at half and read some posts , lol .. Pats 6 out of seven on third down maybe a problem ... Schwartz seeing the field might be a problem .. Receivers not getting open might be a problem for Baker .. Woods going up against McDaniel's might be a problem .. Not sure why Conklin is not playing ? Post game thread ought to be a hoot ..

Originally Posted by waterdawg

Not sure why Conklin is not playing ?

Conklin severely injured his elbow 2 weeks ago.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Last year was a fluke

Played NFC east

This is ridiculous. Ne has 1/2 the talent we have on offense and defense. Our coaches suck and baker sucks. He’s getting outplayed by a rookie.

Good Football teams get back in games like this!!

17 points at halftime, is not insurmountable. From years of watching the Mustard and stench team that plays in west PA,
we can learn that 17 is the threshold where good teams,
have to score and cut into the lead,
then Get a Big play on defense.

Get a score off that Big defensive play,
Then take advantage of the momentum in a 3 point game with the bad guys on their heels.

once again we need a new defense, and a num 1 WR

Ugh

Originally Posted by THROW LONG

Good Football teams get back in games like this!!

17 points at halftime, is not insurmountable. From years of watching the Mustard and stench team that plays in west PA,
we can learn that 17 is the threshold where good teams,
have to score and cut into the lead,
then Get a Big play on defense.

Get a score off that Big defensive play,
Then take advantage of the momentum in a 3 point game with the bad guys on their heels.

you talking about us

mack Jones looks very in control at QB where Baker always looks so herky jerkey

3rd down stop stunned

figures

Sack! Finally.

Natson 🙄

Needed that sack

Goodness even their punter is dominating

If we were up 17 points I'd still be worried but being down that many I have zero confidence we can come back.Not the way we've played.

Lions games looks like no gimme

Lions will make it tough for our offense thats for sure

Jarvis must be hurt has dissappeared

Come on Baker, light 'em up!

Baker just looks so uncomfortable. THey are basically going quarters it appears

dink and dunk

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Jarvis must be hurt has dissappeared

Yeah, he’s not himself

SEVEN on the line of scrimmage on that 3rd down Sack by the Browns.

forced the punt, Browns get the ball back.

Last week, the only time we saw 7, or 8 and a half on the line of scrimmage, was the intereption by JJ3 that ended on the Bengals 8 yard line. That was last week.

Chubb is the gas for our Pinto

We freaking suck

Running onto a brick wall

Best O line in football

Wills has had a really poor day today

Ok stefanski you have to give up playcalling

oh man

Good job o line

This game is over!

Not enough time

Originally Posted by redddog

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Jarvis must be hurt has dissappeared

Yeah, he’s not himself

we got rid of his best friend, not suprised he is being pouty

Back to the drawing board with this team.

Can't make playoffs when don't have tiebreakers vs NE PiTT Chargers , KC

Remember when we used to rollout left after a play action fake? Good times, gooood times ...

Cowboy bebop. Hoping it will be good

Easy to see the difference between contenders and pretenders. Not sure if this staff is the right one. We aren’t ever prepared this year

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Can't make playoffs when don't have tiebreakers vs NE PiTT Chargers , KC

We need to stop talking about playoffs.

That is NOT going to happen.

Ward just standing there

I just don't get the sense that there are any leaders on this team. Overall, they look very mechanical and flat - uninspired. Like sleep walking.

uninspired

perfect throw

We have to Hold people to Not have idols! Amen!

Just to big strong fast and smart......

really

5-5 is gonna be our record. We’ve lost to KC, LAC, AZ, PIT, and NE … basically anybody thats sniffing the playoffs

We SUCK!!..

Maybe after we get BLOWNOUT by the rats back to back, the playoff talk will stop.

They're killing us.

Worst linebackers in nfl

Weird that we have no chance this week after how we played last week.

It’s been a LONG time since I’ve felt like turning off a Browns game. We are reaching that point

Our defenders just bounce off thier players

Sadness

we have just quit

Complete embarrassment. I feel like we deserve better than this yet again

Factory of Sadness - now accepting applications for 2nd & 3rd Shifts...

Overrated defense

Greg Williams could improve this defense in a week, wade phillips too

that does it for me, Imma go check out the lions game

I mean just driving our D line and Defense like a brand new Lincoln

That should have been challenged. that was textbook
pass defense by Mack Wilson and the ball was not caught.

the ground caused the stop of the ball. but,
the refs called it a catch.

Mack Wilson did 100% on that pass defense, he held hunter henry's arm and never got his arm to comlete the catch.
But it didn't get challenged.
and in 2021, they'd probably call it a catch, I guess driving it into the ground becomes a catch. edit: driving it into the ground from the side without control with one hand patting the outside of the top of the ball as it hits the ground

Well, bad guys got another touchdown.

Like Public Enemy says Don't believe the hype

This is the kind of game that should get someone fired

Game over.........playoff chances gone. Players will start going through the motions now

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

It’s been a LONG time since I’ve felt like turning off a Browns game. We are reaching that point

I feel the same way but I guess I'll tough it out (sighs).

Not really seeing the difference from the Hue years

This feels more like 2001 than 2021

I’m sitting on my couch right now embarrassed to be wearing a browns sweatshirt.

So sick of the losing. We don’t deserve this.

Our SB window was second half of last season that's it

Outcoached on both sides of the ball. The Patriots Defense is WAY better than the Browns. Mac Jones is eating Baker alive. It's like a seasoned vet playing against a Rookie. Embarrassing.

Originally Posted by redddog

I’m sitting on my couch right now embarrassed to be wearing a browns sweatshirt.

So sick of the losing. We don’t deserve this.

We dont, but that's life.

2002 was pretty good though

Chubb would make no diff with this Defense

Has a WR caught a pass

Timber

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Outcoached on both sides of the ball. The Patriots Defense is WAY better than the Browns. Mac Jones is eating Baker alive. It's like a seasoned vet playing against a Rookie. Embarrassing.

Jones is eating our defense alive not Baker. Baker is facing a great defense with a great coach. Jones is playing a glorified prevent defense with a bad defensive coordinator and a arrogant head coach

Lol

Get us a real qb for gods sake

The All D'ernest or dump off passing game,

challenges the quick think decision making of the Qb, in a game trailing,

got to go after those 50/50 balls.

Haha. Sweet grab, Chief!

Sad that our best play is our QB getting crushed.

This is it

I rather us really suck or be really good. Tired of getting my hopes up after a good game just to lay an egg in the next.

We have yet to prove anyone wrong. It's just the flat out truth that if we can't run the ball, we lose. Baker can't throw us back into a game. It is what it is. Maybe next year.

That should do it get the Draft guides out

Oh no. Baker is down

I meant Hot route offense.

bakers done

Ir him now and just be done with this clown show. Not winning anything this year anyways with or without him

Landry will start saying he wants out next

After running the ball good on first drive we completely abandoned the run game and became pass happy. Stefanski will not succeed as a head coach until he gives up play calling

lets go case...rather see baker get in a rhythm even in a loss

That’s our season

When the wheels fall off, we roll in a ditch and die.

best oline in football

Someone needs to be fired, who though

Hance, or 62 gave up the sack on the Keenums first play.

jailbreak

O line is getting crushed. Literally everyone is getting beat.

Is this 2017?

This is extremely demoralizing

ticket price for remaining home games sell sell sell

#62 is getting murdered

olinemen...can we have our money back?

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Someone needs to be fired, who though

everybody

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Someone needs to be fired, who though

Who decided to go for it on 4th and 19 with a quarter +30 seconds to play in the game? After the OL gave up a sack.

It ended up a holding against the same OL and then another sack.

I’d scrap the whole staff. A lot of money invested to look this bad.

pats are just teeeing off now

Going for it on 4th and 19 with a backup taking his 2nd snap. LOLOLOLOL

We don't have Hunt, Chubb, Conklin. That's a lot to overcome against any NFL team.

they showed everyone was covered but it was mostly single coverage. take a 3 step and let it go to a guy in single coverage

Last year we played a soft schedule and flew under the radar, Now with expectations they fold

This is how they'll end up losing 13 games on the year.

If they get everybody injured in a game they are trailing by 5 scores in the 4th quarter.

Is it me or is this website about as slow as the Cleveland linebackers

Bourn = Randy Moss

This is a brutal loss.

Man what a BS flag.

This game can't end soon enough.

Good thing we got rid of OBJ. That was def the issue

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Is it me or is this website about as slow as the Cleveland linebackers

Hilarious!

CBS just switched games to the Titans game. LOL

Their millionaires are better than our millionaires.

"There's a gloom, men. Let's get the gloom!" - With apologies to Marty Schottenheimer

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Last year we played a soft schedule...

Oh that's a messed up thing to bring up! Do you remember the soft schedule jets when no players were allowed to play? That was LAST YEAR!!
plus, look who the opponent got to play the 15th and 16th place teams in the AFC are in their division. jets and dolphins.

I thought this game was going to be at least competitive... nope.

NFL offices are getting what they wanted today

TJ Watt just went down, holding his knee

def gased game over

HERE WE GO BROWNIES !!

BAKER MAYFIELD !!

LETS GO BRANDON !!

Both safeties didn’t even bother trying.

put a fork in us were done!!!!!

Opposing TE's, forever and always our D's fatal flaw.

lets go case

38 to 7, Browns getting mauled.

Can we cut players on defense? Replace them with people who care. Anyone off the street can do better. I'm not kidding either.

groin is what they are saying

All i want for xmas is JOE WOODS head on a platter!!!

Complete failure. Not sure what the hell happened today.

Originally Posted by DaveyD

CBS just switched games to the Titans game. LOL

And the Sunday ticket still shows the Brown Stains game as blacked out.

They’re literally making it impossible to watch this garbage. Hahaha.

Thanks for nothing, stains. I work with 4 of the most DBag pats fans that will NEVER stop mocking the crap out of me for this one. We were SB bound and they were rebuilding.

Such an embarrassment.

Originally Posted by olddog1

All i want for xmas is JOE WOODS head on a platter!!!

YES YES YES!

I left the room, and the TV cut out, with a message that my local channels had been disrupted.

Probably as a kindness.

He’s not going anywhere. Only way to get rid of him is if you axe Stefanski. You know, the sitting coach of the year Kevin Stefanski

Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan

I left the room, and the TV cut out, with a message that my local channels had been disrupted.

Probably as a kindness.

Mine has been out most of the game (DirecTV, no surprise).

We looked so good on the first drive.... then stefanski changed the play calling completely

yeah case. superbowl...

Why is our stArters still in there? What's the point of risking injury?

No one get hyped. They’re in prevent

Just kick a field goal.

well that play sums up our playcalling for the day

Delay of game, Browns, on 3rd and goal from the 5.

Landry called time out. Refs say, after discussion that he didn't call time out before the delay of game.
3rd and goal,

4th and goal from the 12.
pass to the 8, he gains the 6 yard line.

Kase Keenum and the Offense too smart for ... well anything.

no fade route?

J/C

The good news is tickets for the Lions game will be selling on seatgeek for 1/2 off. Kudos to the season ticket holders for remaining loyal and paying full price for this trash.

We still got the Cavs at least

On the bright side for myself? My TV pic was gone most of the game and I had to watch a live stream on my Chromebook. It would have been worse if we were kicking butt with the same situation.

That's about as positive as I can be about this afternoon. lol

HOW DOES IT HURT, TO THROW AN INTERCEPTION IN THE END ZONE, ON 4TH AND GOAL FROM THE 12.

AND IF YOU ARE TRYING THE HITCH= / DUMP OFF WHATEVER THE HECK THAT WAS,

WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO AVOID? THE INTERCEPTION IN THE END ZONE???

Definatley prevent, The Browns preventing themselves from getting into the Play-offs.

Originally Posted by RememberMuni

J/C

The good news is tickets for the Lions game will be selling on seatgeek for 1/2 off. Kudos to the season ticket holders for remaining loyal and paying full price for this trash.

Good think I keep waiting to pull the trigger on game tix

'Hoyer the Destroyer.'

Major problem with Stefanski

Steelers are tied with Detroit with 9 minutes left in the game. Go Lions!

Hoyer looks better than Mayfield

So the Browns will tell us.

Chucking the Ball up for a rebound, "That is not offense"

Well sometimes it ends in points!! Dum------!!!

The Packers/Seahawks game should be good. Two of my fav QB's.

how do we get this hoyer guy?

443 yards of total offense allowed. Pathetic

A little salt on the wound courtesy of Chuckles Belichick and Brian Hoyer.

Why not go for 2, Bill?

I couldn't see how he injured himself, perhaps he tweaked his neck? I don't know.

Where is another win in the remaining games

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Hoyer looks better than Mayfield

That's a little disingenuous during garbage time with backups. That being said Hoyer was our best QB post DA until Baker and honestly I think there's not much difference between Hoyer and Baker. Neither going to put you on their back but both good enough to make some throws and win some games if the team around them helps them out.

Troy Hill may be seriously injured.

2 plays ago, the radio said the Browns had put in backups on defense, all the linebackers and ward and garrett were out.

Next play was the 50 yard pass, then
the touchdown and an injured Brown.

They are worried about his neck by the removal via stretcher and neck collar.

Originally Posted by 3rd_and_20

Irkle...did i do that?

With 4:13 to play I don't think the Browns can hold them to under 50
45-7

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Where is another win in the remaining games

It should be next Sunday, against the Lions.

Man, what do you pay a guy like Baker?

This FO has such a tough call to make.

JoJo Natson is number 19, and the kick return. 7-45 4 minutes to go in the 4th.

Who got injured?

Originally Posted by 3rd_and_20

Originally Posted by Jcamm

Where is another win in the remaining games

It should be next Sunday, against the Lions.

I wouldn't count on it. Doesn't matter, they will lose two in a row to Baltimore. I am once again embarrassed to wear my Browns gear, same thing every year.

Originally Posted by EveDawg

Who got injured?

Troy Hill

Teams that win their divisions get
1, 2, 3, and 4, in playoff seeding...

spots 5, 6, and 7, in the AFC also get wild cards.

spots 8, and beyond to 16th, miss the playoffs.. My Question is,

At the end of the year what spot will the Browns be in???

Originally Posted by Rishuz

Man, what do you pay a guy like Baker?

This FO has such a tough call to make.

I figure out what's the literal median starting QB salary combined with expected salary of any FA QBs and start from there. That's what his play says he deserves.

I don't think there's any chance Baker's side accepts that offer. If they do, fine, roll with him and keep investing around him. If not, say goodbye and wish him well.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Major problem with Stefanski

No! Give Stefanski another week.

Originally Posted by THROW LONG

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Major problem with Stefanski

No! Give Stefanski another week.

I think the problem is not the coaches, it is the effort of the players that sucks.

Thank Goodness it's over !!

Coaches are a huge problem. They were completely outcoached today. How many reverses did the Patriots run today and all of them were successful.

It's becoming apparent that Stefanski has a script and a formula. When things don't go according to plan, he has a hard time figuring it out. Add to that a very limited QB, and you have a very average team with an average coach and a below average QB.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

443 yards of total offense allowed. Pathetic

Pathetic, indeed! Embarrassing is another word that comes to mind...