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Get ready for the Big Ben love fest finale

At least we won't have to hear about it from Collinsworth.

Let's send Big Ben out with a L

Better score a lot of points , because the refs will be in full force tonight.

This whole game is a letdown.

Basically the only two things I care about in this game:

Avoid major injuries
Garrett dominating so he can lock up DPOY

The hardest thing about watching our games this year is that every commercial break after a drive that ended due to a pick or missed throw starts off with one of those Progressive At Home with Baker ads. Like my tv is mocking me.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Get ready for the Big Ben love fest finale

The whole pregame show on ESPN is a giant Ben love fest. It's nauseating.

I really don't understand any fan who says they don't care if we lose to Pit and keep their playoff hopes alive. I don't understand fans writing about the how futile the organization is and how we have a lack of winning culture - and insisting we should lose the last two games because of draft position. To me a winning culture means every single play of every single game is important.

Will Mayfield actually show up or will he quit? Let's see.

Hoping Garrett gets 3 sacks tonight

anyone got an online stream link?

Home field for Steelers.
ESPN Monday Nite
"Beloved Son Love-Fest"
Browns getting ZERO calls tonight...Look for some ultra-creative Yellow Flag...

C'mon Browns - stick it to these bums.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Will Mayfield actually show up or will he quit? Let's see.

Yeah - the guy whose played 90% of the season with a torn labarum and broken bone is a quitter.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Get ready for the Big Ben love fest finale

Muted the TV, listening to Browns radio

Originally Posted by CapCity Dawg

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Get ready for the Big Ben love fest finale

Muted the TV, listening to Browns radio

Good Call, just did the same

I’m not sure why this is a surprise and/ or something that shouldn’t happen. The Steelers have a small shot at making the playoffs and their hall of fame QB is playing their last game.

ok... let's get this going

Ok lets spoil their party ...

I would feel alot better if someone on the Browns, From the coach on down would get some backbone and let it be known that the Browns will put their foot in Ben one last time!! But Stefanski will be on the sidelines with his arms folded and that playsheet of crappy plays!

Gametime

Won the coin toss.

Steelers ball to start

Get ready for a night of "This could be the last time that Big Ben Rothlisberger, from small town Findlay Ohio, after 18 years in the black and gold ties his shoes at mid-field on MNF..."

Cmon D

Tired of the Ben fest lets kick some steeler butt ...

Same jerseys we’ve worn there in other wins

To think , The Browns had Ben #2 over Winslow, I read where Davis wasn't sold on Winslow, But the persons involved in making the pick felt Ben would only last 6 years because he was big and slow and would take a beating and he would fall apart with injuries.

And where is Kellen ?

Harris for 4

Time to sack Myles and Clowney !!!

Claypool for a 1st

Nice play Taki

Good play by Clowny

Who said they were surprised? No one.

Come on D … 3rd and long

Close to being off sides...

Good job D

Nothing changes the fact that he raped those women.

Wasn’t that a face mask?

Originally Posted by jaybird

Close to being off sides...

Yes

Good job D

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Wasn’t that a face mask?

Yep

Defense looks fired up !

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Wasn’t that a face mask?

holy smokes - it was actually flagged and correctly...

Wow flag on them

Chubb time

Lets see how the offense comes out

Run the Ball they can't stop the Run ...

Let’s hope

well that didn't work...

Welp, thats not ideal

Lol thats just so, so bad

nice play by Landry

Same game plan as last game here: isolate their LBs

That won't last

And a hooper drop

Hooper with the drop.... good pass by Baker....

Poor pass/drop

I like the more aggressive play calling! Drop by Hooper

Another drop

bad pass...

3rd and LONG

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Poor pass/drop

Tipped ball

wow... Hooper sucks...

What in the WORLD is this pass offense

Hooper worth every penny.

3 passes, 3 drops.

Learn anything yet Stef?

Why does hooper fall to the ground every play

Hooper needs to be gone!!!!

Hooper, right in the hands, drop.

Abandoned the run after 1 Carry

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Abandoned the run after 1 Carry

Yeah, - 3 yards isnt something we want though.

Hooper is killing this team.

Really Hooper

Originally Posted by TooTall

3 passes, 3 drops.

Learn anything yet Stef?

The pass to Schwartz was bad.

Of course they wont call roughing the kicker. Refs and Goodell gonna do everything they can to get ben that win.

Hooper playing over Njoku shouldn’t happen

j/c...

Hooper stealing another paycheck.

Originally Posted by CapCity Dawg

Originally Posted by TooTall

3 passes, 3 drops.

Learn anything yet Stef?

The pass to Schwartz was bad.

It was tipped

Originally Posted by CapCity Dawg

Originally Posted by TooTall

3 passes, 3 drops.

Learn anything yet Stef?

The pass to Schwartz was bad.

That ball was tipped actually

Originally Posted by CapCity Dawg

Originally Posted by TooTall

3 passes, 3 drops.

Learn anything yet Stef?

The pass to Schwartz was bad.

It was tipped was it not

Does Hoop have dead money if we cut him in the offseason?

Clearly Stefanski isn't tough enough with these guys. Stefanski is soft just like our players!

Hooper has been HUGE, overpaid disappointment but Baker really needs to throw more catchable balls! My goodness.

Originally Posted by CapCity Dawg

Originally Posted by TooTall

3 passes, 3 drops.

Learn anything yet Stef?

The pass to Schwartz was bad.

In fairness - it was tipped off the D's arm.

Originally Posted by slick

Of course they wont call roughing the kicker. Refs and Goodell gonna do everything they can to get ben that win.

Did they say why? Blocked into maybe or just no flag no replay??

Originally Posted by Psydeffect

Originally Posted by CapCity Dawg

Originally Posted by TooTall

3 passes, 3 drops.

Learn anything yet Stef?

The pass to Schwartz was bad.

That ball was tipped actually

Ok, didn’t see that. Still would not call it a drop.

Originally Posted by CapCity Dawg

Originally Posted by TooTall

3 passes, 3 drops.

Learn anything yet Stef?

The pass to Schwartz was bad.

it was tipped.

Feels to me like Claypool is gonna be their guy over the top

Cmon defense goodness

NFL is a real joke. No roughing or running into the kicker?

And now our run D stinks

The Steelers are playing inspired football right now!

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by slick

Of course they wont call roughing the kicker. Refs and Goodell gonna do everything they can to get ben that win.

Did they say why? Blocked into maybe or just no flag no replay??

Only thing they said was punter is on the ground

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Hooper has been HUGE, overpaid disappointment but Baker really needs to throw more catchable balls! My goodness.

off-season?
Yeah I was shocked when we inked him to that fat contract, as he was always just a mere good TE whom would occasionally put a big play on busted coverage in Atlanta...He's had some really bad drops throughout this whole year.

Our DTs are not good

False start

Good job D

Good stop defense.

Wow! these refs are really bad.

Good Job D

Joe Woods has come around, our defense has come around, why can't Baker Mayfield and our offense?

CHUBB TIME PLEASE

Chubb?

good game so far

Ward showed up again. Glad Newsome is back, means less Greedy.

Yeah Newsome and Ward are needed

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Joe Woods has come around, our defense has come around, why can't Baker Mayfield and our offense?

I agree... Defense has gotten better throughout the year

There you go Chubb!!!

CHUBB TIME

Ward has been huge for us.

Now that's some stuff right there.

Keep it going

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

The Steelers are playing inspired football right now!

1 first down in two series, they're on fire!!

Whose # 24 ?

3rd and 1

Bernie came out today and said there is no way he could throw with that sling on his nonthrowing shoulder

https://twitter.com/ESPNCleveland/status/1478153661071216644

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@BernieKosarQB
on Baker: "It's almost impossible to throw accurately down the field with that harness, that brace."

HOOPER IS ON THE TAKE wtf

Dang it... Hooper needs to be cut

9 in the box on 2nd down, 10 on 3rd.

Bench his ass

Well goes Hooper!!.. Stealing Money

Seriously - Hooper...get your head outta you butt and into the game. IDIOT

Cut this Hooper scumbag!

Hooper's mind already on the golf course

How shocking, Hooper with another mental error....

Baker is such a tap dancer back there

Whatever..... This team.....

Hoop is poop

good bye Hooper

This offense is atrocious

Story of the year for the offense, can start a drive well but can never finish it.

Penalty killed us

Goodness gracious

I am so tired of seeing Chubb on the sidelines on big plays

someone, please take away the playcalling from Stefanski

I'm sick of us going for it on 4th down

We do need to move on from Hooper.

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

someone please take away the playcalling from stefanski

Was a good play on 4th... Landry was wide open for a first down if the ball wasn't batted down....

Jesus

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Does Hoop have dead money if we cut him in the offseason?

What if we cut him at halftime?

Sigh....

WTF !!!

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

someone, please take away the playcalling from Stefanski

I'm sick of us going for it on 4th down

His arrogance wont allow it

Something has to be done. Get Mayfield out of there.

What I wouldn't give to see Hooper throw his pads on the bench, take off his shirt and tippy toe out the stadium.

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

someone, please take away the playcalling from Stefanski

I'm sick of us going for it on 4th down

That was the right call... I guess you could punt there, but the way the defense has been playing and where we were on the field I think going for it was the right call...

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

someone please take away the playcalling from stefanski

Was a good play on 4th... Landry was wide open for a first down if the ball wasn't batted down....

Hooper would of ran into him, and screwed something else up

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

someone please take away the playcalling from stefanski

Was a good play on 4th... Landry was wide open for a first down if the ball wasn't batted down....

going for it on 4th and 7 at midfield is beyond stupid.

Clowns clowning.

See... this is what I mean.. there was no way going for it on 4th down at that position was good. Now the play looked open but the oline and Baker has to make that happen

And that's why we're not a playoff team.

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

someone please take away the playcalling from stefanski

Was a good play on 4th... Landry was wide open for a first down if the ball wasn't batted down....

going for it on 4th and 7 at midfield is beyond stupid.

We were at their 40... too far for a FG but you don't gain much by punting... play was there... just got batted down...

We were fortunate no flag

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

someone please take away the playcalling from stefanski

Was a good play on 4th... Landry was wide open for a first down if the ball wasn't batted down....

going for it on 4th and 7 at midfield is beyond stupid.

We were at their 40... too far for a FG but you don't gain much by punting... play was there... just got batted down...

a game like this is won by field position... not tons of points.

Phillips was taken for a ride

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

someone please take away the playcalling from stefanski

Was a good play on 4th... Landry was wide open for a first down if the ball wasn't batted down....

going for it on 4th and 7 at midfield is beyond stupid.

It is why the Browns lose the way they do. A bunch of stupid little decisions that turn into big losses. Not that losses matter at this point.

They are running North and south

That might be a 4th down

I've seen our whole offensive season in our first 2 possessions.

Run stuffed because the D knew it was coming and was flying downhill
A poor throw
A batted ball
A drop
A nice run by Chubb
A false start on 3rd and 2
A trick play run to Landry

A bunch of empty backfield sets and not a single play-action pass

4th down at 40 and they go for it...damn Stef

That was the same exact play that they stopped in the playoffs

Good play Delpit

Grant Delpit is playing

Good coverage

Good defense … 3rd down

Phew, we just got his heels

Need a turn over

Let’s see if THEY get the 4th down

Gonna try to draw them off

i bet we jump offside. smh lol

Incomplete!! .. coulda been a pick 6

Basically same situation as the Browns were in... 4th a long but in no man's land...

Thankfully we made the stop

good play by 58... terrible coaching on both sides

Malik !!!!

Guess they make stupid decisions too. Teehee.

man... how many balls is Baker going to have batted tonight

Baker’s height is a HUGE issue. I mean, 3 tipped passes in one quarter

It’s a MAJOR issue of late

OMG.. can we get a taller QB.. 1 for 7

Why in the hell are we having so many batted passes????

Get Mayfield out of there!! He's finished!

We’ve seen enough of hudson

Hudson needed to be in his chest!

This offense is cooked

Remember Weeden was tall as could be, and he had a ton of batted passes too

Well what happens when you leave a rookie on T.J Watt

Originally Posted by jaybird

man... how many balls is Baker going to have batted tonight

More then intercepted I hope

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Why in the hell are we having so many batted passes????

Get Mayfield out of there!! He's finished!

you just want him finished. at all costs

I've had enough of Baker Mayfield to last me a lifetime. I am officially done.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Baker’s height is a HUGE issue. I mean, 3 tipped passes in one quarter

Yet another garbage game from our QB 1

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Remember Weeden was tall as could be, and he had a ton of batted passes too

he set like 2 records for batted passes.

really, bake is giving something away in his throwing motion. he needs to get some pump fakes going

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Why in the hell are we having so many batted passes????

Get Mayfield out of there!! He's finished!

That was Hudson's fault. He was supposed to block him wyatt if he drops into coverage to prevent him from doing what he just did

D is keeping this a game. The offense is putrid.

I’ll tell ya who really DOES need to be done….

Hooper. Can you think of a worse bust than that dude?

Originally Posted by redddog

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Baker’s height is a HUGE issue. I mean, 3 tipped passes in one quarter

Yet another garbage game from our QB 1

I'm no Mayfield apologist, but his receivers aren't helping him.

Can anybody tell me why Baker doesn't step up into the pocket so that he can see the field better?

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Remember Weeden was tall as could be, and he had a ton of batted passes too

he set like 2 records for batted passes.

really, bake is giving something away in his throwing motion. he needs to get some pump fakes going

Yeah I think a lot of it is throwing motion/delivery and then not locking in so long...then again who knows.

And a short punt

Pittsburgh so picturesque at night, Lolollol. I was born in Pittsburgh.

Why are THEY running on US and not vice versa

It’s only so long that our D can hold em

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

And a short punt

Worried he will get clobbered again with no flag.

Why don't want torun? Pittsburgh sucks against the run!!!!

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Why are THEY running on US and not vice versa

Because I think alot of these guys mentally packed it up after the bengals with the help of the refs of course kicked that fg

We lined up offsides by 2 yards LOL

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Why don't want torun? Pittsburgh sucks against the run!!!!

That's the great stefanski playcalling

We seem checked out

j/c...

Em should've put some shoe lifts in Baker's stocking this Christmas.

Last season we seemed to have eliminated the mental mistakes, this year it is one after another.

Big Ben manipulates our Defense

feel like our defense is gonna give up a TD this drive...

Baker Mayfield isn't comfortable enough to pump the ball.

sure looked like PI... glad it wasn't called

Drop by Johnson again

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Baker Mayfield isn't comfortable enough to pump the ball.

Had same thought... when guys start batting the ball down you need to pump a bit to make them jump

Who throws a shoe?!? honestly?!?

That shoulda been a flag, tho it wasn’t

That’s just unacceptable

Another stupid mental mistake.

Damn it Clowny.... 4th and long and we get a penalty for throwing a shoe

Throwing a shoe is a new way to extend a drive... brilliant.

We are LOSERS

Not quite sure how that's a penalty but okay.

Nice clowney

OMG.. We just dont learn...

It never ends with this team

Clowns still clownin.

Originally Posted by 85_Browns_Queen

Can anybody tell me why Baker doesn't step up into the pocket so that he can see the field better?

I suspect that it's to protect his shoulder in case the pocket collapses and he gets smushed

Najee is chubbing us now

Why didnt we run that shoe!

Originally Posted by jaybird

Who throws a shoe?!? honestly?!?

Classic

Feels like the last 20 years

Clowny needs to create a turnover... he cost us 4 points....

Again little crap that cost games. Is there a parrot in here?

Playing with all the intensity of an expansion team in preseason...

thats was a penalty ? what a joke in rules

I'm out. again.

Game

BOOM!

Same. Just turned it off when the shoe throw happened.

See ya next season.

It feels like they scored 3 tds right there.

Thanks a lot Clowney........clown.

All of these mental mistakes, illegal motion, lining up offsides, throwing a darn shoe, dropping passes ...... just unacceptable.

Embarassing

Point blank: we are still a losing franchise, from the QB to the penalties and the effort

Nice job Clowney. Douchebag. SMH

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Why don't want torun? Pittsburgh sucks against the run!!!!

Because Stefanski

Welp as if we hadn't abandoned the run already dont be surprised I'd stefanski goes all out pass happy

Originally Posted by boofers20

Originally Posted by 85_Browns_Queen

Can anybody tell me why Baker doesn't step up into the pocket so that he can see the field better?

I suspect that it's to protect his shoulder in case the pocket collapses and he gets smushed

Before the injury he didn't appear to do it either. Just something I noticed over time.

Stefanski knows this team has quit. I wonder what he does about it.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Point blank: we are still a losing franchise, from the QB to the penalties and the effort

The effort and penalties are on Stefanski.

Nothing

What was clowney supposed to do..put his shoe back on him and tell him sorry... this is or was football...it's a joke anymore

Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan

All of these mental mistakes, illegal motion, lining up offsides, throwing a darn shoe, dropping passes ...... just unacceptable.

You mean Stefanski has not cleaned that up?? Every week, its "I gotta look at the tape and clean that up"!!.. Its been ALL SEASON!!..

It's ok, KS gave Clowney a timeout but also praised his passion and told him not to do it again.

Originally Posted by Psydeffect

Embarassing

Embarrassing?

Not even really surprising at all. This is the Browns MO.

ESPN loves to crap all over us … that is a low blow

Well - there's the obligatory run for this series.

Originally Posted by redddog

Stefanski knows this team has quit. I wonder what he does about it.

He won't do a damn thing. Stefanski is a meek, wet blanket.

not able to see game, whose shoe did he throw? and where?

We immediately go empty …. And ANOTHEr batted pass

Loading up to stop the run and we got the hard 1.

ok new drinking game... take a shot every time baker has a batted ball...

This is a game that makes us realize how bad Baker is too

Baker just throwing them at their chest

They need to have Baker rollout.

OMG... can't even complete a screen...

4 passes knocked down

Geezus Mayfield...move! So sick of this batted pass crap!

Screw you Mayfield!!

Why do we refuse to help Hudson too

Fire Kevin Stefanski!

Seriously Baker is getting on my nerves

I can catch, put me in coach!

This is hard to watch. Pathetic offense. Seven points might be too much to overcome.

Originally Posted by EveDawg

They need to have Baker rollout.

They to bench his ass. Garbage.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Fire Kevin Stefanski!

Is there anyone you do not want to fire? LOL.

Baker is killing the Defense with these 3 and outs!!...What part of this does Stefanski not see?? And leaving that rookie on TJ Watt will mess up every play... help him with a TE

Woods for HC ? lol !!!

I've never seen a team go to sh** so quick. Bench Baker and call it a day. It's sabotage at this point.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

It's ok, KS gave Clowney a timeout but also praised his passion and told him not to do it again.

I saw that.

These guys don't play for their coach.

You know who plays for their coach? The Titans. I think Vrabel is the best coach in the league.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Why do we refuse to help Hudson too

Because Stefanski is a GENIUS! LOL

Chubb is our best player and Stefanski won't use him

Being embarrassed again on National TV

j/c...

Baker is 1/9 passing for 2.2 yards per attempt.

Averaging 7.2yards per carry on the ground.

Stefanski playing for that higher draft pick!

Top to bottom crap show.

A disgrace to the city of Cleveland. This town needs to strike on the Clowns.

Alot of these guys have checked out mentally. So now we let the rapist win his final home game

I don't think it's the play calling hurting us as much as the Defensive long arms are..

With Baker at QB I’m not sure we’ll even score 7 points

Clowny almost got a TO...

Well Stefanski is somewhere.. folding his arms, and trying to figure out what to do

Why are we laughing

Nice job Clowney

Of course they would not call the holding

I hate the rule that if your whole body weight is laying on a defender that you aren't down.

I really thought Harris was going to get that first down lol

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

I hate the rule that if your whole body weight is laying on a defender that you aren't down.

The back of his hand and forearm touched the ground, he was down by contact as well.

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

I hate the rule that if your whole body weight is laying on a defender that you aren't down.

The back of his hand and forearm touched the ground, he was down by contact as well.

I understand that but I still hate the rule. If you aren't keeping YOURSELF off the ground, you should be down.

Well... we're 1 for 8 passing and Chubb has 8.8 yards per carry... obviously we need more passing plays....

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

I hate the rule that if your whole body weight is laying on a defender that you aren't down.

I like it, because it's the ground that matters

Originally Posted by Woofurious

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Fire Kevin Stefanski!

Is there anyone you do not want to fire? LOL.

Yes, Joe Woods, AVP, and Mike Preiffer. Preiffer should be the head coach.

The defense has been fun to watch.

Seriously if the Browns are shut out for the half Baker needs to be benched. This is absolute garbage.

This is a REALLY tough watch given our crap offense and the Big Ben love fest

Please, everyone was getting on Joe Woods but he has done a BETTER JOB than Kevin!!!... Kevin looks like a deer in headlights

Originally Posted by The Beast

Seriously if the Browns are shut out for the half Baker needs to be benched. This is absolute garbage.

That actually might happen

Baker is literally GARBAGE

Well they can catch

1 for 9, now with an INT.... glad we keep passing it....

j/c...

Atta boy Baker!! Don't even look at Njoku!

Greedy william out with shoulder injurie

You must be a guy easily parted from his money.

Aaand …..sit him

[censored].. that was on Baker.. Njoku open... NOPE!!!.. toss it too the wrong person

Njoku open underneath, but let’s go deeper in coverage.

Originally Posted by slick

Greedy william out with shoulder injurie

Dang, not again

Originally Posted by CapCity Dawg

Njoku open underneath, but let’s go deeper in coverage.

and pass it behind the guy... just dumb...

OK I am done with this game. This might be the worst one yet.

Smells like like a blow up coming after this game

What does it take to bench Baker? Injury??

Chubb averaging almost 9 yards per carry yet we pass the ball 2 to 1 with QB that cant hit the broad side of a barn and tadaaa! interception. Stephanski is a moron!

Chubb will end up in LA next season

Baker has the yips bad.

According to the local expert Eotab you guys are losers
For wanting a better QB than.Baker

The defense is going to be on the field this entire game.

Baker’s wife will surely have some things to say

What part of this dont you all see!!.. This starts with KEVIN not seeing that his QB is off badly.. his QB is killing the team. and BTW.. run the bvall

Gotta bet Ben his last home win. Nobody wants to ruin that. Not even the Browns.

Any chance Baker pull an Antonio Brown?

J/K...I think.

Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper

According to the local expert Eotab you guys are losers
For wanting a better QB than.Baker

Looking forward to the excuses

Lmao ward with the wiff

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Baker’s wife will surely have some things to say

Please She will say some Aliens Threatened them this time

Lol

A head coach is responsible for picking the players that give us the best chance to win. You're telling me that Mayfield gives us the best chance?

Defense is gassed. Time of possession is absurd.

Stefanski needs to bench Baker for the sake of the other guys playing.

Greedy Williams is hurt every 4 snaps

Ben is torching us

Joe woods great defense

Originally Posted by slick

Lmao ward with the wiff

Went for the pick. Figures it’s our only chance at points.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

A head coach is responsible for picking the players that give us the best chance to win. You're telling me that Mayfield gives us the best chance?

Maybe Keenum is really that bad.

We need to bench Stefanski... He is blind to his own decisions.... to stubborn to change

Delpit is hurt again

Originally Posted by slick

Joe woods great defense

Defense has been on the field forever this game...

Delpit torn acl

Ben will have to throw it 100 times to get 300 yards. He might have the chance to do that.

Originally Posted by 85_Browns_Queen

What does it take to bench Baker? Injury??

If you are Stefanski and you want Baker gone, in a game like this, with Baker clearly struggling, you throw the ball 75% of your plays and don't give it to Chubb. Just a thought.

Well now we dont have anyone in the secondary... just freakin great...

Something needs to be done about Stefanski.

TOP is P 20, Cleve 5 and only down 7-0, D is doing something right, also when you figure is JC doesn't pull the shoe, they don't score that touchdown.

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by slick

Joe woods great defense

Defense has been on the field forever this game...

Exactly. Steelers are nearly quadrupling the Browns in TOP.

Blaming the defense is hilarious.

This team BLOWS! Period.

Who the hell is 15

10-0

Originally Posted by Milk Man

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by slick

Joe woods great defense

Defense has been on the field forever this game...

Exactly. Steelers are nearly quadrupling the Browns in TOP.

Blaming the defense is hilarious.

And it will happen.

Originally Posted by DogNDC

We need to bench Stefanski... He is blind to his own decisions.... to stubborn to change

We need Andrew Berry to demand that Stefanski gives up play calling or be terminated. There is no other choice here. This guy is HORRIBLE. Period.

Im Eotab is going.to blame the refs again if the Browns lose

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by 85_Browns_Queen

What does it take to bench Baker? Injury??

If you are Stefanski and you want Baker gone, in a game like this, with Baker clearly struggling, you throw the ball 75% of your plays and don't give it to Chubb. Just a thought.

interesting take...

Cue another terrible series

Stefanski is really pushing for worst coach of the year.

Originally Posted by Milk Man

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by slick

Joe woods great defense

Defense has been on the field forever this game...

Exactly. Steelers are nearly quadrupling the Browns in TOP.

Blaming the defense is hilarious.

Putting a LB on thier best WR is also hilarious

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by 85_Browns_Queen

What does it take to bench Baker? Injury??

If you are Stefanski and you want Baker gone, in a game like this, with Baker clearly struggling, you throw the ball 75% of your plays and don't give it to Chubb. Just a thought.

No DC,
How about Stefanski is too stubborn to change. He has kept Baker out there when he is clearly hurt. When he is playing bad, he keeps him out there. Its Stefanske and Baker killing this team. That is why we are not in the playoffs

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Who the hell is 15

I don't even remember those years !

Zero points in the first half? Good night Mayfield. You are done for the night.

I just opened a popup store selling rope and straight razors for all you guys trying to hang somebody out to dry or slit your wrists. 75% off for anybody who said fire or bench somebody tonight. Act fast, closes when the game is over.

Garrett looks pissed/laughing.

Please run the ball...

3 and out? Interception? Strip Sack?

Here we go!!!

Did Brian Griese really just question if we’d give Baker a contract LOL … how about he pays US

Originally Posted by jaybird

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by 85_Browns_Queen

What does it take to bench Baker? Injury??

If you are Stefanski and you want Baker gone, in a game like this, with Baker clearly struggling, you throw the ball 75% of your plays and don't give it to Chubb. Just a thought.

interesting take...

I don't get this. Baker and his fans were asking to let Baker throw, and Stefanski is doing it

Steelers celebrating and dancing around, Browns look defeated. If somebody doesn't make a play soon, this will get away from us completely.

Chubb is out

I think the Steelers are amped for Ben and just owning us on D.

1 for 10...

Now Chubb on the Bench? Did he sleep with Stefanski's wife?

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

I just opened a popup store selling rope and straight razors for all you guys trying to hang somebody out to dry or slit your wrists. 75% off for anybody who said fire or bench somebody tonight. Act fast, closes when the game is over.

I will be your first customer!

Nick Chubb isn't on the field because Stefanski is an idiot.

Originally Posted by redddog

Stefanski is really pushing for worst coach of the year.

Yes, as if Urban never happened.

What the HELL is that play?

Where is CHUBB

2 for 11... can we see Chubb now? or did we shut him down for the year?

Well Louiis Riddick just summed it up!!

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

I just opened a popup store selling rope and straight razors for all you guys trying to hang somebody out to dry or slit your wrists. 75% off for anybody who said fire or bench somebody tonight. Act fast, closes when the game is over.

I will be your first customer!

I'll pay the bill!

Tonight's word is: INEPT. A clear definition of the Browns offense. I'm done with Mayfield and Stefanski's offense. Time for them to both go. This is just stupid.

Yeah I agree w/Riddick

j/c...

Tough watching Bishop Sycamore getting bullied again out on the field tonight.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Nick Chubb isn't on the field because Stefanski is an idiot.

You are WRONG! He is a SUPER GENIUS! LOL

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Well Louiis Riddick just summed it up!!

I like Riddick.. and yes he did. What is the plan? I don't know what they are trying to do...

Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper

Im Eotab is going.to blame the refs again if the Browns lose

And the receivers. Maybe the line. Or the play calling.

Again, this is because Stefanski THINKS he is the smartest person in the room. Here everyone knows the Steelers are weak against the run up the gut... what do we do.. sweep... How about running chubb right at the steelers or off tackle.. NOPE, lets Baker get balls swatted down or pass to everyone else... the problem starts with Stefanski

And now Higgins even drops it

Higgins getting 0 seperation.

This whole staff needs replaced . Berry included. Who has he brought in thats contributed to winning? You pay lip service and say next man up mentality yet keep marching out a trash qb when you pay his backup 10/m a year. Stefanski is a horrible coach. Last year was a fluke. He needs to go. Kubiak was the reason for his success

Anybody that expected these guys to be FIRED UP or putting it all on the line for this game is delusional. Doesn't matter what they say, the hype had them playing for the division title next week, and all that got yanked out from under them yesterday.

Flag .. on us … AGAIN

2 for 13.... and now we get a flag...

Hudson false start anticpating Watt.

Hudson needs to be on the bench

Just another dead ball penalty to make a 3rd down harder. Hudson, here's a thought, he's blocking Watt.. maybe give him some help?

Thanks Hudson.

More mental mistakes.

DPJ hangs on

We made a play!

Why isnt chubb in the game

Nice completion to DPJ - embarrassing to hear the incredulous attitude of ESPN

Hmmmm, accurate throw to an open guy. Might want to try that again.

Two minute drill and NOW we decide to run the ball? Just not with Chubb...

If we going to run it for 1 we need to use a TO

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Why isnt chubb in the game

Had to be hurt... only thing I can figure

Stefanski saving those timeouts for halftime. What a clown.

WHERE THE F IS CHUBB???

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Hudson needs to be on the bench

Needs to be somewhere bagging groceries. You can’t tell me out of 32 practice squads this is the best you can do

Baker holding onto it too long...

I can’t watch this any longer .. he’s a headcase

Hudson may as well not even be on the field.

Holding the ball too long.

Come on O score

Mayfield just plain is too dumb to play qb in nfl, he will never get it

What exactly is he looking at?!

That sack is on Baker.. he gotta let that ball loose

Surprised we’re punting.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Why isnt chubb in the game

If he isnt hurt then Haslam needs to get in stefanski rear end

3rd and 2... run the damn ball

Please punt. Bench Mayfield for the second half. If I was Berry I would call Stefanski at half and give him an ultimatum on the play calling. Yes, I am being serious. This is absolute garbage. Embarassing.

And now Watt will overtake Garrett for DPOY

these announcers are full of bs. the TE was not open. that would have been a pick 6.

Start keenum the second half, let avp call plays

This is pathetic. Embarrassing. No other words

Bench Baker please

Originally Posted by slick

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Why isnt chubb in the game

If he isnt hurt then Haslam needs to get in stefanski rear end

Please no. Let Andrew Berry handle this. The LAST thing we need is for Haslam to screw it up AGAIN. Talk about clueless.

Delpit back on the field

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

And now Watt will overtake Garrett for DPOY

as he should , Watt is a lot better than Myles in quite a few categories. Def more rounded

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Well Louiis Riddick just summed it up!!

I like Riddick.. and yes he did. What is the plan? I don't know what they are trying to do...

Giving Baker all the rope to hang himself on full display for the entire country. Missing wide open guys left and right.

Feels vindictive and brutal.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

And now Watt will overtake Garrett for DPOY

Watt is more of a game wrecker/charger than Garrett.

These announcers hate Baker. Obviously.

Depends where the ball is placed on.The target
TE was open
Allen or Burrow makes that throw

Man.. this is terrible.. and all season we have heard about Stefanski fixing the offense.. .What has gotten fixed?? What has improved?? Nothing!!... Just lip service

Originally Posted by jaybird

3rd and 2... run the damn ball

We arent going anywhere with the run. Chubb is 4 for 35 yards, with 1 32 yard run. Johnson is averaging 2 yards.

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by slick

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Why isnt chubb in the game

If he isnt hurt then Haslam needs to get in stefanski rear end

Please no. Let Andrew Berry handle this. The LAST thing we need is for Haslam to screw it up AGAIN. Talk about clueless.

Fine berry then. Somebody needs to say something

Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper

Depends where the ball is placed on.The target
TE was open
Allen or Burrow makes that throw

Not only the TE was open for the 1st down comp. Just saying...

They will score again because the browns are trash

trying to give up a score at the end of the half

The Browns are SO undisciplined. That is coaching.

Yet another mental mistake.

This team is a combination of the scarecrow and tin man. No brain, no heart.

We’re giving them another 3

Berry does need to handle this ... because Stefanski is not seeing what is happening...

Baker with his stellar 15.3 rating

Lol

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Berry does need to handle this ... because Stefanski is not seeing what is happening...

It's either he is arrogant or blind...BOTH are bad for the team.

Long heave for the PI call coming up?

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Long heave for the PI call coming up?

Of course

Originally Posted by cfrs15

These announcers hate Baker. Obviously.

What has he done to impress them to talk him up??

Good way to end the half... we played horribly on offense but some how only down 10

Golf clap

OK halftime. Baker should be done. Let's seen Keenum and Chubb in the second half.

Originally Posted by The Beast

OK halftime. Baker should be done. Let's seen Keenum and Chubb in the second half.

LOL

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Berry does need to handle this ... because Stefanski is not seeing what is happening...

It's either he is arrogant or blind...BOTH are bad for the team.

I put my money on Arrogant and thinking his plays/offense works when it does not!. The same answers with the same messed up results.

Gnite all...game not worth losing sleep with work tomorrow.

Originally Posted by jaybird

Good way to end the half... we played horribly on offense but some how only down 10

Those are 10 huge points. I am not sure we have 100 yards of offense yet. 10 points might be out of reach.

Originally Posted by cfrs15

2 receivers wide open for the 1st down and Baker doesn't throw it, again. Baker is broken.

Baker is saving Ben... otherwise the announcers might have to remove their lips from Bens butt and comment on his 20/34 for 96 yards (2.8 ypa) 1 TD, 1 INT first half.

I'm looking forward to the 3rd qtr. Snoop Dog's going to be on the Mannings.

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Originally Posted by cfrs15

2 receivers wide open for the 1st down and Baker doesn't throw it, again. Baker is broken.

Two guys open for a first down, and it will be blamed on the play call.

Originally Posted by TooTall

Gnite all...game not worth losing sleep with work tomorrow.

Ditto. Maybe a second half surprise in the morning. LOL

Green got the pick..D not giving up... Still hopes for a win..

I have defended Baker all along but IDK anymore ...

Originally Posted by Woofurious

Originally Posted by TooTall

Gnite all...game not worth losing sleep with work tomorrow.

Ditto. Maybe a second half surprise in the morning. LOL

I’m close.

If our D wasn't playing well, this would be ugly.

Anybody blaming injury on Baker's performance is a fool. He, plus 4 drops, are making this game a joke. OBJ's dad was right. Add to that having Chubb watching from the sidelines, has made me lose all faith in Stephanski. This gameplan is pitiful. Pull Baker, it can't be any worse. Recievers open, and a QB who won't throw the ball to them. This game and last week, has convinced me Baker needs to go.

Could you guys imagine if the Bengals lost yesterday and THIS was the game we came with tonight?

I’m glad we got knocked out yesterday. I’d be having a heart attack right now.

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

I have defended Baker all along but IDK anymore ...

Me too.. Baker needs to get his shoulder right but perhaps more importantly, he needs to get his head right. They commented on that pump when the guy was open and he couldn't pull the trigger. That's been happening and getting worse all year, it didn't happen before... Don't know if he doesn't trust himself or what, but he is absolutely NOT the same guy he was then.

Stefanie said before that it's Hunt's job in the 2 minute. If Hunt is out, Johnson is the backup. Brilliant coaching.

Watt is better than Myles. Myles makes great plays but watt dominates games.

It’s not close.

If I was Njoku, and knew Baker would be the QB next year, I would beg for a trade.

Originally Posted by FORTBROWNFAN

If our D wasn't playing well, this would be ugly.

Our D is playing ok, Ben is terrible.

j/c...

Aditi Kinkhabwala
@AKinkhabwala
And no, Nick Chubb is not injured, per a #Browns spokesman.

https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status/1478198357940183041

I know R.Wilson isn't a spring chicken, but if you put him on this team next year we are a wildcard team MINIMUM.

Either way there are too many questions to give baker a contract, get rid of him in the off-season and wish him well. He is just at his ceiling, mostly mentally. All the arm talent in the world don’t matter if you can’t read a defense.

Originally Posted by Steubenvillian

If I was Njoku, and knew Baker would be the QB next year, I would beg for a trade.

Honestly. What WR would EVER want to come here?

Originally Posted by Milk Man

j/c...

Aditi Kinkhabwala
@AKinkhabwala
And no, Nick Chubb is not injured, per a #Browns spokesman.

https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status/1478198357940183041

This is a pattern with stefanski. It’s more proof he’s just not the guy

Originally Posted by boofers20

I know R.Wilson isn't a spring chicken, but if you put him on this team next year we are a wildcard team MINIMUM.

NO passing QB is coming to Cleveland to be shut down by that jackass Stefanski. Ditto for any quality WR. Stefanski MUST GO as the play caller. Period.

Originally Posted by Milk Man

j/c...

Aditi Kinkhabwala
@AKinkhabwala
And no, Nick Chubb is not injured, per a #Browns spokesman.

https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status/1478198357940183041

That's just unbelievable to me... did he piss the coach off or something? He's got 4 carries and an average of 8.8 yards per carry....

Baker has the yips. He's broken.

Not getting a contract, his poor play, being booed, and not making the playoffs have created a confidence crisis.

Baker mayfield is just sober Johnny manziel

When I watch Stefanski's offense I'm reminded of Coaching for Dummies book that might be seen in Waterboy. LOL

Originally Posted by boofers20

I know R.Wilson isn't a spring chicken, but if you put him on this team next year we are a wildcard team MINIMUM.

Please, if RW is on this team we win the division....

10 -0 Come on Browns !!! This is no beat down !

We have a Chubb sighting!

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by Milk Man

j/c...

Aditi Kinkhabwala
@AKinkhabwala
And no, Nick Chubb is not injured, per a #Browns spokesman.

https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status/1478198357940183041

This is a pattern with stefanski. It’s more proof he’s just not the guy

Stefanski is approaching Matt Nagy territory.

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by boofers20

I know R.Wilson isn't a spring chicken, but if you put him on this team next year we are a wildcard team MINIMUM.

NO passing QB is coming to Cleveland to be shut down by that jackass Stefanski. Ditto for any quality WR. Stefanski MUST GO as the play caller. Period.

Not sure I get what you are saying. The idea here is we are passing too much, how is that shutting down a passing QB?

Originally Posted by redddog

Watt is better than Myles. Myles makes great plays but watt dominates games.

It’s not close.

I don't agree with that at all

Hey, a chubb carry

Originally Posted by Rishuz

Baker has the yips. He's broken.

Not getting a contract, his poor play, being booed, and not making the playoffs have created a confidence crisis.

Then get him OUT OF THE GAME! What in thee HELL is wrong with Stefanski? What exactly is he trying to prove? Is the trying to run Mayfield out of town? Geezus. Totally incompetent.

3rd and 3. give it to him twice

We can't establish a rythem because you won't use Chubb Stefanski!!!

Wow, just boggles the mind.

9 in the box, we get 4 though

I just looked at the team stats for tonight and was very surprised to see we have a better 3rd down conversion rate than Pittsburgh.

I’m so tired of seeing Mayfield clutch and go down

3 and out...

Yipee.

I wish they would just finish baker off on one of these sacks, only way stefanski would pull him

3 and out!!.. Well Stefanski really got them motivated and ready.. oops.. same old crap...

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

I’m so tired of seeing Mayfield clutch and go down

I'm not in favor of benching Baker, but if he's going to refuse to pass the ball to open guys you almost have to.

Chubb had 7 yards on 2 carries just give it to him again ...

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Baker mayfield is just sober Johnny manziel

If you are going to steal memes off Facebook, you should give credit.

Originally Posted by DogNDC

3 and out!!.. Well Stefanski really got them motivated and ready.. oops.. same old crap...

This team don't play for their coach. They have to find internal motivation.

We could have had Arians or mcdermott, nope we get hue and stefanski

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by boofers20

I know R.Wilson isn't a spring chicken, but if you put him on this team next year we are a wildcard team MINIMUM.

NO passing QB is coming to Cleveland to be shut down by that jackass Stefanski. Ditto for any quality WR. Stefanski MUST GO as the play caller. Period.

Not sure I get what you are saying. The idea here is we are passing too much, how is that shutting down a passing QB?

I'm saying this: No QB who likes to be aggressive and get the ball down the field is coming here. That guy doesn't want to be turned into a game manager. Stefanski's offense doesn't allow for any real aggression in the passing game. This is the same reason any quality WR will avoid Cleveland. See Stefon Diggs as an example. Stefanski's offense is basically not effective at this level. Maybe high school. Not beyond that. It simply doesn't challenge anyone. Sid Gillman always said that the fooltball field is 100 yards long and 53 yards wide. And it was his idea to make the defense defend every inch of the field. Stefanski has NO clue what to do at this level. His time is up as a play caller if Cleveland EVER wants to develop an offense that will be worthy of moving forward as a competitive force in the NFL.

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Chubb had 7 yards on 2 carries just give it to him again ...

This. No reason not to run it on 3rd down there.

That’s enough for me. Good luck, dawgs.

So we have the 13th pick right now 2 more losses we probably get a top 10 pick maybe Stefanski likes one of those college QB's ... I don't know I'm frustrated

Just a matter of time before this defense completely bails.

They must be exhausted.

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Chubb had 7 yards on 2 carries just give it to him again ...

No, take him off the field and whatever you do, don't run play action. Put a TE in the backfield so they are 100% sure you are NOT going to run the ball. It's been working so well.

OMG Stewart just got destroyed

Originally Posted by Rishuz

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by Milk Man

j/c...

Aditi Kinkhabwala
@AKinkhabwala
And no, Nick Chubb is not injured, per a #Browns spokesman.

https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status/1478198357940183041

This is a pattern with stefanski. It’s more proof he’s just not the guy

Stefanski is approaching Matt Nagy territory.

Or....as DC suggested....giving Baker all the rope he needs to hang himself while at the same time preserving draft slot.

Watching the manning cast and they said that apparently stefanski said to one of the ESPN reporters that he was going to use the PASS to open up the RUN. That is exactly what PAT SHURMER used to say needed to be done. We all know how that turned out

Everything about that play is why I don’t see why Berry gets a pass . He had ton of capital to fix things and hasnt

Originally Posted by Milk Man

Originally Posted by Rishuz

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by Milk Man

j/c...

Aditi Kinkhabwala
@AKinkhabwala
And no, Nick Chubb is not injured, per a #Browns spokesman.

https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status/1478198357940183041

This is a pattern with stefanski. It’s more proof he’s just not the guy

Stefanski is approaching Matt Nagy territory.

Or....as DC suggested....giving Baker all the rope he needs to hang himself while at the same time preserving draft slot.

How much more rope does baker need? He’s already hung himself way before this stinker

Originally Posted by Milk Man

Originally Posted by Rishuz

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by Milk Man

j/c...

Aditi Kinkhabwala
@AKinkhabwala
And no, Nick Chubb is not injured, per a #Browns spokesman.

https://twitter.com/AKinkhabwala/status/1478198357940183041

This is a pattern with stefanski. It’s more proof he’s just not the guy

Stefanski is approaching Matt Nagy territory.

Or....as DC suggested....giving Baker all the rope he needs to hang himself while at the same time preserving draft slot.

At this point I'm starting to wonder if that is the overall strategy. Just let Mayfield hang himself and then the front office has a reason to make a move in the offseason. Hopefully Stefanski is stripped of his play calling duties.

How many presnap penalties can we have

When is Myles going to get his token sack

Another mental mistake.

Newsome. Another bad pick

Can ya root for the Browns to win ? game still away off..put some positive energy out there

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

How many presnap penalties can we have

Cleveland Browns - Hold my beer! LOL

thing is, why let Baker embarass himself this game? wouldn't that wreck any potential trade value (if there was any?)

17-0 in short order

This team is embarrassing

Somebody call a Doctor and check this team for a pulse.

If we were playing a good qb it’d be like 42-0

The defense is giving pretty good effort. The offense has no chance.

Originally Posted by Jaspercane

Somebody call a Doctor and check this team for a pulse.

Seems like we know its meaningless and that our QB isn’t the guy

Newsome is trash. Can’t cover, can’t tackle.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

If we were playing a good qb it’d be like 42-0

that's next week against JBurrow

Originally Posted by cfrs15

The defense is giving pretty good effort. The offense has no chance.

The defense has done well IMO .. O is a dumpster fire

13-0

May as well be 0-400

Originally Posted by DeisleDawg

Can ya root for the Browns to win ? game still away off..put some positive energy out there

If Stefanski's goal is to embarrass Baker, then the play is to pull him and put Keenum in the game right now. Game still within reach, if the guys are really open and another QB would make the plays... prove it. Put Keenum in and if we start to move the ball and score points... there you go.

13-0

coaching needs a lot of work in the offseason
Baker needs to get better and heal in the offseason

we need our player's health (league lowest amount) we have only had 8 players healthy all season
we need our OL healthy
we need 2 new LB's

Originally Posted by boofers20

Originally Posted by leadtheway

If we were playing a good qb it’d be like 42-0

that's next week against JBurrow

they will more than likely be playing practice squad players. They’ll still win by two scores

This team fell apart after we destroyed Cincinnati 41-16

Our bread and butter screen game, roll-outs and play action have been trash. The Offense, play calling and Baker are broken. Stefanski saying he was resting Chubb with 2 minutes left in the half, is absurd and laughable.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Originally Posted by cfrs15

The defense is giving pretty good effort. The offense has no chance.

The defense has done well IMO .. O is a dumpster fire

Seriously, Baker has the yips. Shouldn't be out there.

The Steelers are a really bad team. Browns are winning this game with Keenum.

we also need 2 WR and a competent TE next to juke

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Our bread and butter screen game, roll-outs and play action have been trash. The Offense, play calling and Baker are broken. Stefanski saying he was resting Chubb with 2 minutes left in the half, is absurd and laughable.

We don't run screens anymore.

The D is trying to keep us in this. Another game where the offense just has to simply show up to the stadium to win and we make it look like rocket science.

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Our bread and butter screen game, roll-outs and play action have been trash. The Offense, play calling and Baker are broken. Stefanski saying he was resting Chubb with 2 minutes left in the half, is absurd and laughable.

Resting him at GB got us beat

Peyton manning is not liking our offense

Cant understand how we cant run the ball against linebackers 3rd on the depth chart. chub should have had a 200 yard day

Chubb is all heart

Looking like to little to late to run now.

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Our bread and butter screen game, roll-outs and play action have been trash. The Offense, play calling and Baker are broken. Stefanski saying he was resting Chubb with 2 minutes left in the half, is absurd and laughable.

Stefanski's thought that you can't have Chubb on the field when you throw the ball is also laughable. he telegraphs his plays that way.

Another tipped pass .. this is becoming comical

Nick chubb wants it bad. Too bad he’s stuck with hue 2.0

Originally Posted by Jaspercane

Cant understand how we cant run the ball against linebackers 3rd on the depth chart. chub should have had a 200 yard day

Because the QB can’t throw.

Originally Posted by Rishuz

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Our bread and butter screen game, roll-outs and play action have been trash. The Offense, play calling and Baker are broken. Stefanski saying he was resting Chubb with 2 minutes left in the half, is absurd and laughable.

We don't run screens anymore.

Just that middle screen to Hooper but we haven't even seen that horrible screen in a few weeks

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Peyton manning is not liking our offense

I think he knows more about offense than Stefanski. LOL

Next qb needs to be 6’3 or above.

TJ Watt is so incredible

That’s why is so much better than Garrett , he makes plays in all phases

This offense is DOA.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Our bread and butter screen game, roll-outs and play action have been trash. The Offense, play calling and Baker are broken. Stefanski saying he was resting Chubb with 2 minutes left in the half, is absurd and laughable.

Stefanski's thought that you can't have Chubb on the field when you throw the ball is also laughable. he telegraphs his plays that way.

You should be able to screen ALL DAY with Chubb. Too bad Stefanski is a complete jackass.

Its over.....just fire stefanski...

Keep punting scrubs, that’s how you get back into it

Originally Posted by slick

Its over.....just fire stefanski...

This is hilarious

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

TJ Watt is so incredible

I'd take him ALL day over Garrett. Not. Even. Close.

Wow Bradley with ZERO awareness

DOA. We’ve all seen this before. They’ll wait to put keenam in until it’s too late. But I bet they do make that change.

Watt trash talking Baker. They are indeed in his head. GET HIM OUT OF THERE!!

come on D

The fact that Hudson isn't engaging watt is maddening

Watt has all day to jump up and knock down passes

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Jaspercane

Cant understand how we cant run the ball against linebackers 3rd on the depth chart. chub should have had a 200 yard day

Because the QB can’t throw.

He should be nothing but throwing play action behind the run and the occasional 3rd down. Asking Baker to throw the ball is a recipe for disaster. Just feed the beast should have been the game plan. Unfortunately its a little too late.

Really what does it matter? They obviously don't care about winning or losing this game.

We are the Jets.

Why the heck our we just letting wyatt drop back to bat the ball down!!! HUDSON get in his chest!

Originally Posted by slick

Its over.....just fire stefanski...

If he refuses to give up the play calling that is EXACTLY what needs to happen. Going nowhere with this 1920's strategy. Ridiculous.

All doom and gloom and negativity aside....

This really is like watching one of our Hue Jackson offenses tonight. It hasn't been this bad in a few years.

I'm not sure if a Freddie Kitchens offense looked this bad?

Problem is: if garrett was on the Steelers he’d be better than Watt is … and if he was on the Browns he’d be worse

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Another tipped pass .. this is becoming comical

It's because the Steelers know what's coming and they are well coached, they alternate between rushing and just playing passing lanes. And Stefanski has no answers.

kinda bums me out that now with the 17 game schedule we get to prolong this madness and watch this putrid offense one more game

Chubb is on pace for somewhere around 12-14 carries.

Put Case in Please ...

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

The fact that Hudson isn't engaging watt is maddening

I do wonder if Watt is simply dropping off the line of scrimmage. On a pass play Hudson is limited on how far he can go beyond the line of scrimmage or he would get penalized for being illegally downfield. Thoughts on this?

Originally Posted by Jaspercane

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Jaspercane

Cant understand how we cant run the ball against linebackers 3rd on the depth chart. chub should have had a 200 yard day

Because the QB can’t throw.

He should be nothing but throwing play action behind the run and the occasional 3rd down. Asking Baker to throw the ball is a recipe for disaster. Just feed the beast should have been the game plan. Unfortunately its a little too late.

Really what does it matter? They obviously don't care about winning or losing this game.

So do exactly what the defense knows you want to do and has game planned to stop?

Stefanski got the job because of running kubiak offense. He’s is lost now. So you look at the rest of the HC duties and he’s failed that too. Really no reason to keep him

I can't watch this anymore tonight. It's embarrassing....

What the hell happened to this team with all the talent we have? They act like they could care less about winning. Burrow will eat them alive next week. Stefanski needs to find a play caller in the off season cause he sucks at it.

Stefanski isnt going anywhere but hes got a lot of things to iron out .. A LOT

Our defense has done a very nice job

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Stefanski isnt going anywhere but hes got a lot of things to iron out .. A LOT

Like finding a QB that can throw to wide open receivers.

Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan

Chubb is on pace for somewhere around 12-14 carries.

Sounds like a recipe for a loss to me.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Problem is: if garrett was on the Steelers he’d be better than Watt is … and if he was on the Browns he’d be worse

He hasn't showed up to play in several weeks now. At least Clowney is still punching the clock and Quarterbacks

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by boofers20

I know R.Wilson isn't a spring chicken, but if you put him on this team next year we are a wildcard team MINIMUM.

NO passing QB is coming to Cleveland to be shut down by that jackass Stefanski. Ditto for any quality WR. Stefanski MUST GO as the play caller. Period.

Not sure I get what you are saying. The idea here is we are passing too much, how is that shutting down a passing QB?

I'm saying this: No QB who likes to be aggressive and get the ball down the field is coming here. That guy doesn't want to be turned into a game manager. Stefanski's offense doesn't allow for any real aggression in the passing game. This is the same reason any quality WR will avoid Cleveland. See Stefon Diggs as an example. Stefanski's offense is basically not effective at this level. Maybe high school. Not beyond that. It simply doesn't challenge anyone. Sid Gillman always said that the fooltball field is 100 yards long and 53 yards wide. And it was his idea to make the defense defend every inch of the field. Stefanski has NO clue what to do at this level. His time is up as a play caller if Cleveland EVER wants to develop an offense that will be worthy of moving forward as a competitive force in the NFL.

I do agree with you on this... the rest of the league knows how to defend his offense but he will not adjust

Atleast one DE came to play

Originally Posted by HarleyDawg51

What the hell happened to this team with all the talent we have? They act like they could care less about winning. Burrow will eat them alive next week. Stefanski needs to find a play caller in the off season cause he sucks at it.

Nah don't worry, Bengals have no reason to play Burrow. Only thing that saves us from that complete embarassment.

Their punter had a HIGH snap, had pressure, and still had a better punt than we’ve had all year

Greedy ward and taki all out for game. One thing never changes we always draft cornerbacks that are made of glass

Our punt return game sucks.

Riddick is letting us have it (as he should).

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

The fact that Hudson isn't engaging watt is maddening

I do wonder if Watt is simply dropping off the line of scrimmage. On a pass play Hudson is limited on how far he can go beyond the line of scrimmage or he would get penalized for being illegally downfield. Thoughts on this?

That's exactly what he did. In the first half they rushed the edges but sat back in the middle and played passing lanes, now they are alternating between rushing and playing passing lanes... it's almost like they know what play is coming... almost... kind of.

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Stefanski isnt going anywhere but hes got a lot of things to iron out .. A LOT

Like finding a QB that can throw to wide open receivers.

And hiring a play caller that understands NFL offensive strategy in the 21st century.

We have the worst returners in nfl. Good god could dpj be any less explosive

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Stefanski isnt going anywhere but hes got a lot of things to iron out .. A LOT

If we fired Stefanski another team would hire him immediately without an interview.

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Stefanski isnt going anywhere but hes got a lot of things to iron out .. A LOT

Like finding a QB that can throw to wide open receivers.

And hiring a play caller that understands NFL offensive strategy in the 21st century.

So he should pass more?

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Stefanski isnt going anywhere but hes got a lot of things to iron out .. A LOT

If we fired Stefanski another team would hire him immediately without an interview.

Let them!

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

The fact that Hudson isn't engaging watt is maddening

I do wonder if Watt is simply dropping off the line of scrimmage. On a pass play Hudson is limited on how far he can go beyond the line of scrimmage or he would get penalized for being illegally downfield. Thoughts on this?

That's exactly what he did. In the first half they rushed the edges but sat back in the middle and played passing lanes, now they are alternating between rushing and playing passing lanes... it's almost like they know what play is coming... almost... kind of.

Well we all know that Stefanski is unable to effectively adjust in game so that makes sense. Film study probably set up the Steelers to figure out what is coming. Just awful.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

The fact that Hudson isn't engaging watt is maddening

I do wonder if Watt is simply dropping off the line of scrimmage. On a pass play Hudson is limited on how far he can go beyond the line of scrimmage or he would get penalized for being illegally downfield. Thoughts on this?

That's exactly what he did. In the first half they rushed the edges but sat back in the middle and played passing lanes, now they are alternating between rushing and playing passing lanes... it's almost like they know what play is coming... almost... kind of.

We run the most predictable offense in the nfl

I don't know which is worse, watching this game, or being sick as a dog.

Originally Posted by Jaspercane

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Stefanski isnt going anywhere but hes got a lot of things to iron out .. A LOT

If we fired Stefanski another team would hire him immediately without an interview.

Let them!

Fine by me!

Finally a big play

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Stefanski isnt going anywhere but hes got a lot of things to iron out .. A LOT

If we fired Stefanski another team would hire him immediately without an interview.

Yea.. but he would not be calling plays!!.. I bet that would be the stipulation!!.. Stefanski's offense and his blind loyalty to a average

oh my we might get points this drive!!!!

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by The Beast

Originally Posted by boofers20

I know R.Wilson isn't a spring chicken, but if you put him on this team next year we are a wildcard team MINIMUM.

NO passing QB is coming to Cleveland to be shut down by that jackass Stefanski. Ditto for any quality WR. Stefanski MUST GO as the play caller. Period.

Not sure I get what you are saying. The idea here is we are passing too much, how is that shutting down a passing QB?

I'm saying this: No QB who likes to be aggressive and get the ball down the field is coming here. That guy doesn't want to be turned into a game manager. Stefanski's offense doesn't allow for any real aggression in the passing game. This is the same reason any quality WR will avoid Cleveland. See Stefon Diggs as an example. Stefanski's offense is basically not effective at this level. Maybe high school. Not beyond that. It simply doesn't challenge anyone. Sid Gillman always said that the fooltball field is 100 yards long and 53 yards wide. And it was his idea to make the defense defend every inch of the field. Stefanski has NO clue what to do at this level. His time is up as a play caller if Cleveland EVER wants to develop an offense that will be worthy of moving forward as a competitive force in the NFL.

I do agree with you on this... the rest of the league knows how to defend his offense but he will not adjust

Once again its because of his arrogance. His playcalling and his ability to make adjustments was a knock on him on MINNESOTA. I would guess he knows that is will do everything to prove his doubters wrong. HIS ARROGANCE WILL BE HIS DOWNFALL

The FO needs to take play calling away. Period.

Just run it again

Have to get 7 here , simple as that

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Stefanski isnt going anywhere but hes got a lot of things to iron out .. A LOT

If we fired Stefanski another team would hire him immediately without an interview.

This is not true.

But the broader point stands. Baker is a bigger problem than Stefanski.

Stefanski has regressed tremendously this year, starting with one of the most undisciplined teams in the league.

Hooper missed his block?

Why shotgun?

TD NJOKU .. finally

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Hooper missed his block?

Big surprise.

Nice catch Njoku!

Hooper horrible signing

Austin Hooper with the missed block.. and Njoku with the catch.... Njoku should ask for a raise

13-7

Nice grab chief

TOUCHDOWN BROWNS!!!!

13-7

Throw underneath to landry would have been easier but hey points are points

Greedy, ward, taki all out now. They are gonna be able to throw at will

Another defensive stand like last possession

Chief had to go up and get that one. Nice catch for the TD 85

It's about time. The defense probably told the offense they were kicking their ass if they didn't start getting something done. Defense (even with some STUPID penalties) is playing well.

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Austin Hooper with the missed block.. and Njoku with the catch.... Njoku should ask for a raise

Njoku should be a focal point of the offense, but we are not allowed to feature a player.

j/c...

A travesty if Hooper is on the team next year instead of Njoku over money issues and bad contracts.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Throw underneath to landry would have been easier but hey points are points

It just would have been tipped..Baker couldn't find a clear passing lane if it had runway lights. Had to go over the top.

EVERY one of these guys should want to ELIMINATE Pittsburgh from the playoffs. Period.

Originally Posted by Milk Man

j/c...

A travesty if Hooper is on the team next year instead of Njoku over money issues and bad contracts.

It's a travesty Sheldon Richardson isn't on the team this year.

Clowney about to be ejected

Yes !!! come on Defense !!!

Originally Posted by Rishuz

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Austin Hooper with the missed block.. and Njoku with the catch.... Njoku should ask for a raise

Njoku should be a focal point of the offense, but we are not allowed to feature a player.

Well that is because Stefanski cannot feature a receiver... you know.... we cannot draw up plays for anyone

Originally Posted by Rishuz

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Stefanski isnt going anywhere but hes got a lot of things to iron out .. A LOT

If we fired Stefanski another team would hire him immediately without an interview.

This is not true.

But the broader point stands. Baker is a bigger problem than Stefanski.

Stefanski has regressed tremendously this year, starting with one of the most undisciplined teams in the league.

People have said that Baker can only be successful when everything around him is perfect. I think the same thing can be said of Stefanski... give him a top 5 running game, a great defense, a QB who never makes mistakes, and a team that gets off to fast starts and plays with leads... he can win. Take any one of those things away and he struggles.

That wasn't a face mask, I'm pretty sure he got his finger in the ear hole and yanked his head. Can't say I've ever seen that before.

Nice no call !

Come on D

Originally Posted by The Beast

EVERY one of these guys should want to ELIMINATE Pittsburgh from the playoffs. Period.

Problem is most of them are not fro. Cleveland and dont care about the rivalry. Not to mention alot of them are millionaires and could care less now that they are our of playoffs

Originally Posted by Milk Man

j/c...

A travesty if Hooper is on the team next year instead of Njoku over money issues and bad contracts.

Hooper is done. A horrible signing. None of us saw that coming. I know I expected more from him.

Garrett is held on every darn play.

I've said it before and I will say it again this team does not know how to make adjustments.

Punt forced

We need a good PR

Ben’s arm is done, blitz the bejeezus out of him

Dpj is a horrible returner

game is winnable !

So is Johnson more elusive on the punt return than DPJ? DPJ just doesn't seem to exhibit any quickness. Am I missing something?

Why is DPJ, who is our defacto #1 WR, returning punts? Where is Schwartz or Johnson?

This offense is just maddening

We have a whole quarter Run the dang ball!

This is disgusting

Fire stefanski

GO BROWNS !!

Guy is just a trash playcaller

RUN THE BALL!!!

And AGAIN...Stefanski refuses to run the ball. I'm sorry guys. He just sucks. Give up play calling or he needs to go. This team cannot move forward with him in that role. I'm sorry. The experiment is over.

This offense needs a new oc who can call plays

We went for a shot play right there ugh

Play action doesnt even work anymore. Fake the handoff or not rhwy are coming almost every play

Baker just holds the ball too long.. takes too many sacks.. gets balls batted down.. and what does Stefanski do the first play .. try to let Baker throw again!!. Stefanski is a huge part of the problem and it needs to be called out!!

Chubb on the bench, pass happy, sack. Perfect.

Browns gonna win...

Fire stefanski and hire eric bieniemy

Hooper FINALLY with a positive play

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Why is DPJ, who is our defacto #1 WR, returning punts? Where is Schwartz or Johnson?

Cooper Kupp returns punts for the Rams and CeeDee Lamb returns punts for Cowboys.

I know KS calls the plays but I have no idea what the dynamic is between KS and AVP. in game planning or in-game adjustments.. but AVP seems to avoid all of the criticism as people focus on KS....

How many freaking flags can we have

Good Move by Hooper... but i would still get rid of him

Hey, Austin Hooper caught a pass... resign him.

Hooper actually caught the ball. I about fell out of my chair

Chubb still not in

Resting Chubb again smh

More poor discipline

Chubb has to be GASSED after 10 carries!!

How is chubb not on the field?!

That stat says it all

Stop throwing to the left

This drive will stall... Baker gotta pass...

Trash throw

3rd and 20 you know what usually happens here...

Nick Chubb - on the bench. Awesome.

Our offense must be so freaking predictable … they are sitting on everything

Even the announcers are blasting cubb on the sideline.

2nd qbd 20... en screen to Johnson smh.

I really hate stefanski. He makes no sense

Dpj will drop it

This one is on stefanski

Yeah stefanski would be hired by another team… college

Imagine that.. the Steelers had perfectly predicted and defended the screen pass. It's almost like they knew it was coming.

All the throws to the left are fails. Stop throwing there.

That was the chance

Our punting game is a NIGHTMARE

Lololol wheeler are flying off

Dpj is a 5/6 wr on most teams

Snd a FG finishes us off

3rd and long.....throw one deep and hope for a DPI.

Coaching awareness = 63.2 on the Madden scale.

Another great Berry signing . Can’t find a kicker for anything

This will be interesting: Aaron Rodgers with Peyton and Eli next segment.

Our 53 year old punter just hit a punt fat.

Yes... another failed series.. why.. when we get behind the sticks and HAVE TO THROW... WE SUCK... We have to get positive yards on 1st down... always.. someone tell Kevin that.. he is probably folding his arms again... looking lost...

We signed the wrong brother

Originally Posted by The Beast

This will be interesting: Aaron Rodgers with Peyton and Eli next segment.

I'm watching the original broadcast but recording the Mannings to watch later... not sure I'm going to want to endure this game again though.

Ben has a short field one decent completion one decent run and two scores makes it virtually impossible to overcome the way they are playing.

Chubb on the sideline.....only 10 Carries, stefanski pass happy again. S6nd he will put all the blame on baker

Chubb has 7 yards a carry, and Stephanski has him on the sidelines. The coach is giving this game away, and Baker is helping him.

Tomlin not resting Harris. What a bum!

Our defensive backs are WEAK

Originally Posted by slick

Chubb on the sideline.....only 10 Carries, stefanski pass happy again. S6nd he will put all the blame on baker

For what its worth Baker has less attempts than the Pig has completions.

If I hear him say "We need to do a better job as coaches", I may drive to Cleveland to welcome him back, and breathe on him.

Harris is a scrub and he’s just running over our trash front 7

Tackle harris 8 yards down field... all game.

The defense has got to be gassed. This is one time I will agree the play calling is losing this game. And, Baker sucks.

2 deep safeties on 3rd and 2. Awesome

Well atleast Myles kept his Jersey clean for his selfies with Ben after the game

WOW.. a coach and QB check to the run.. I wonder who is doing that

Why are we not putting 8 in the box?

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by slick

Chubb on the sideline.....only 10 Carries, stefanski pass happy again. S6nd he will put all the blame on baker

For what its worth Baker has less attempts than the Pig has completions.

And Baker has more yards.

That's game 16-7

Newsome acting like he had a thing to do with that

That's trouble

The Steelers are bring it on home.

They are a professional team all around right now and we are not.

Done and done.

Whoever thought we had a chance to win this has not been watching these clowns at all this year.

All of the bitching and moaning aside, the difference in the game right now is that the Steelers have committed to using Harris and we have relegated Nick Chubb to an occasional support role.

Look.. the D has played well in this game... The D aint the problem..... its Kevin and Baker that are the problem. Do you really think they will get a score now?? When we have to throw... Baker cant get it done... Here N.Chubb is having a decent game and he is on the sidelines most of the night. Stefanski does not know how to use the personal he has.... He is more concerned about his system instead of how to use his players correctly

That’s true DC> Harris has worn on us now

Your best player on the bench 40% of the game is inexcusable

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

The Steelers are bring it on home.

They are a professional team all around right now and we are not.

Yep. If they didn’t need the jaguars to beat the colts, they’d probably be in the playoffs this year. With a notably inferior team.

Baker is totally cooked

No backside blocking ..... no pass blocking ......

Our offensive line... going to get someone killed

Hudson is terrible

They have officially given up

With Hudson on an island with Watt?? This cant happen

I said during preseason if Hudson has to play the qb would be killed. Dude should have never been drafted

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

With Hudson on an island with Watt?? This cant happen

Thank you.. you cannot leave Hudson alone blocking... he is not that good and for dang sure not on Watt!!!...

Our OTscontinue to be an issue …

This reminds me of the 0-16 Offense

Yet another unforced error.

OK that's enough for tonight. Gonna watch the Browns lose AGAIN in Pittsburgh. But hey, Stefanski will probably just say that the coaches need to do a better job and Baker has to play better. SMH

Why won't Baker throw the ball down the field? It's 3rd and freaking 20 yards in a must score drive and he decides to run it. THROW THE BALL UP to DPJ or somebody who is downfield.. just throw it, maybe something good will happen... NOTHING good is going to happen when he tries to run on 3rd and 20.

How many blocks can Hooper miss in one game? His grade HAS to be a career low today

j/c...

Stefanski is officially dumping all over Mayfield. Nobody puts a future QB in this situation. This is borderline Charles Manson type stuff.

I've never seen anything like it.

Someone needs to call out Stefanski at this point.

Hudson blocking one of the best players in the nfl 1 on 1

Chubb on the field for 11 carries

Johnson carrying the ball on 3rd and 30 for a 3 yard gain.

Coaching can fix these things.

Pittsburg one of the worst teams they’ve had in 10 years and still mop the floor with us. Culture still the same and factory of sadness now runs 3 shifts. Whole staff needs scrapped. But hey atleast we got rid of OBJ

Dude Colquitt is punting it like 20 yards LOL

ANOTHER unforced error.

Delay of game... smh

We are an embarrassment on National TV

Fans chanting Cleveland sucks...

This comical now. Stefanski is not an upgrade from freddie

these announcers are right on it ... a run team trying to be a passing team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FIRE STEFANSKI

I know Kevin will have all the snappy answers at the presser... Just look at what his offense has done the last 7 games... CRAP

Already in fg range. Game set season. Back in the comfy cellar

The steelers wanted it more
The.browns are soft

swept yet again by pittsburgh, this was supposed to be our time to have a run against them

This team is back to being pathetic. Looks like I am watching the old Browns again.

I want a coach that puts the fear of God into our players.

I have lost all faith in stefanski. Hos playcalling is crap. He is pat SHURMER. All he wants to do is pass. You have maybe the best RB in NFL and you only give him 11 Carries. STEFANSKI must be held accountable

This coach need to be held accountable for this garbage.

We need about 9 players on defense, 7 or so on offense , and about 7 new coaches and FO

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

these announcers are right on it ... a run team trying to be a passing team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remove 1 play and Chubb is 10 rushes for 24 yards tonight. His stats dont look bad right now because he is not getting carries. This is no different than when the fans screamed for the backup QB, who turned out not to be able to do anything either.

Originally Posted by Milk Man

j/c...

Stefanski is officially dumping all over Mayfield. Nobody puts a future QB in this situation. This is borderline Charles Manson type stuff.

I've never seen anything like it.

Now the fans can't complain when they move on.

19-7

Not even close, chubb gets better as the game goes. Can’t get rhythm with No touches

Another embarrassing L on national tv. Please stop putting us on Monday night football.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

We need about 9 players on defense, 7 or so on offense , and about 7 new coaches and FO

Stop smoking crack!!... our D aint the problem... and yes, we need some offensive help and a new coach to call plays... you will blame everyone else when the D has played the whole game.. whenis Kevin and the offense going to play

Now we have schwartz returning kicks

Stefanski is getting desperate.

this game is over

Originally Posted by slick

I have lost all faith in stefanski. Hos playcalling is crap. He is pat SHURMER. All he wants to do is pass. You have maybe the best RB in NFL and you only give him 11 Carries. STEFANSKI must be held accountable

Finally other people are seeking it. Stefanski is garbage right now. He better not give the same answers of having to get better I swear.

I cant wait to.hear the excuses for Mayfield tomorrow

Stefanski let's the rapist beat us one more time.

Njoku..criminally underused

Why the hell are they running Chubb?

Now he wants to run. Just more proof stefanski is a really really bad coach

This is an embarrassment of epic proportions!

Sack #7 on baker.... Hudson 1 on 1 again

Originally Posted by Rishuz

Originally Posted by Milk Man

j/c...

Stefanski is officially dumping all over Mayfield. Nobody puts a future QB in this situation. This is borderline Charles Manson type stuff.

I've never seen anything like it.

Now the fans can't complain when they move on.

These guys don’t care about what the fans complain about! C’mon.

Hudson one on one against Watt .......

WHY?????

Watt is light years ahead of Myles. Myles doesn’t help us win

FIRE STEFANSKI

Sack #8.

Baker is getting slaughtered. Smh

Terrible play calling

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

these announcers are right on it ... a run team trying to be a passing team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remove 1 play and Chubb is 10 rushes for 24 yards tonight. His stats dont look bad right now because he is not getting carries. This is no different than when the fans screamed for the backup QB, who turned out not to be able to do anything either.

Or.. alternate thought... give him 10-15 more carries and maybe he has 3 or 4 MORE of those runs and he has 120 yards.. but he can't break long runs if he never gets the freaking ball.

If stefanski is here next year it’s clear the haslams aren’t interested in winning and should sell

Coaching staff is fully responsible for the Hudson debacle. Inexcusable

ESPN win probability for steelers: 99.9%...gee, ya think?

Kevin Stefanski must be held responsible.

Hey, we finally got a call, way too late... but it's something..

Just like the game in Cleveland when Conklin went down. Stephanski gives Hudson no help. Piss poor coaching.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Watt is light years ahead of Myles. Myles doesn’t help us win

Myles gets sacks in the first quarter on 2nd and 5.

Omg. Higgins drop.

Does baker have the highest dropped passes in the nfl?

And another drop.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

If stefanski is here next year it’s clear the haslams aren’t interested in winning and should sell

The Haslams have mastered the art of making money with a losing team. Win or lose they bank ridiculous amounts of money every year

Higgins…jag

Sympathy PI

Baker is scared to death right now...

Baker has the worst mechanics I’ve ever seen

Another unforced error.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

these announcers are right on it ... a run team trying to be a passing team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remove 1 play and Chubb is 10 rushes for 24 yards tonight. His stats dont look bad right now because he is not getting carries. This is no different than when the fans screamed for the backup QB, who turned out not to be able to do anything either.

Or.. alternate thought... give him 10-15 more carries and maybe he has 3 or 4 MORE of those runs and he has 120 yards.. but he can't break long runs if he never gets the freaking ball.

I guess if we are gonna dream "maybes" we can dream bigger than that can't we? I'd love to have receivers catch the ball when it hits them in the hands, maybe we are up by 30 then?

Pitt has had 8, 9 and 10 in the box to stop the run most of the night.

This team had more heart under freddie

Baker doesn't even finish his 3 step drop and he has to run for his life

That run just proves how dumb baker is and selfish

Can we all stop with the speculation, Baker Mayfield is done in Cleveland.

Sack #9

Wills is not a good LT, bitonio was better as a LT than wills

2 minutes and the pain is over

Originally Posted by leadtheway

This team had more heart under freddie

Now your being stupid

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Can we all stop with the speculation, Baker Mayfield is done in Cleveland.

Oh he's not done

.
We need a better game plan

9 sacks is on the coaching. Baker can't even finish his drops before he is getting pressured

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Originally Posted by leadtheway

This team had more heart under freddie

Now your being stupid

Agreed. That’s just ridiculous.

When did we bring DeShone Kizer back?

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

Originally Posted by leadtheway

This team had more heart under freddie

Now your being stupid

You’re …. Yet I’m stupid. … right

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Can we all stop with the speculation, Baker Mayfield is done in Cleveland.

Would you want to be a Quarterback in Cleveland?

The browns oline is worse than the bengals

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Originally Posted by slick

I have lost all faith in stefanski. Hos playcalling is crap. He is pat SHURMER. All he wants to do is pass. You have maybe the best RB in NFL and you only give him 11 Carries. STEFANSKI must be held accountable

Finally other people are seeking it. Stefanski is garbage right now. He better not give the same answers of having to get better I swear.

How much you want to bet?? Stefanski will give the same tired butt responses he always does because the media will not hold him responsible

I'd refuse to play if I had Hudson in the game.

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Originally Posted by slick

I have lost all faith in stefanski. Hos playcalling is crap. He is pat SHURMER. All he wants to do is pass. You have maybe the best RB in NFL and you only give him 11 Carries. STEFANSKI must be held accountable

Finally other people are seeking it. Stefanski is garbage right now. He better not give the same answers of having to get better I swear.

How much you want to bet?? Stefanski will give the same tired butt responses he always does because the media will not hold him responsible

Someone needs to get in his grill!

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Originally Posted by slick

I have lost all faith in stefanski. Hos playcalling is crap. He is pat SHURMER. All he wants to do is pass. You have maybe the best RB in NFL and you only give him 11 Carries. STEFANSKI must be held accountable

Finally other people are seeking it. Stefanski is garbage right now. He better not give the same answers of having to get better I swear.

Or what. LOL.

Hopefully we will look at tape and move on to Cincinnati.

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

these announcers are right on it ... a run team trying to be a passing team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remove 1 play and Chubb is 10 rushes for 24 yards tonight. His stats dont look bad right now because he is not getting carries. This is no different than when the fans screamed for the backup QB, who turned out not to be able to do anything either.

Or.. alternate thought... give him 10-15 more carries and maybe he has 3 or 4 MORE of those runs and he has 120 yards.. but he can't break long runs if he never gets the freaking ball.

I guess if we are gonna dream "maybes" we can dream bigger than that can't we? I'd love to have receivers catch the ball when it hits them in the hands, maybe we are up by 30 then?

Pitt has had 8, 9 and 10 in the box to stop the run most of the night.

I think you are exaggerating but for the sake of argument, let's say you are correct...

Then I would think that leaving Chubb in the game and running play action might just freeze those 8, 9, 10 guys for just a split second to allow people to get open faster and to slow up that pass rush just a step.... did we do any of that? F#$# no. We put a back-up to a back-up on the edge with TJ Watt, gave him no help, and went empty backfield most of the night.

Just one reason why I have gone from being upset and questioning KS to being fully on-board with not caring if he's here next year or not.

Higgins basically fell down in the endzone. Smh

He jumped 2 yards early

Like when he got Njoku wide open and Baker threw it to the defender?

I was a kid living in the deep south and everyone was a Saints fan (even with bags on their head). Archie Manning literally put his life on the line every game. Back then New Orleans was where QBs went to die, sadly in this day and age its Cleveland. But the Haslams are happy with the positive cash flow.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

these announcers are right on it ... a run team trying to be a passing team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remove 1 play and Chubb is 10 rushes for 24 yards tonight. His stats dont look bad right now because he is not getting carries. This is no different than when the fans screamed for the backup QB, who turned out not to be able to do anything either.

Or.. alternate thought... give him 10-15 more carries and maybe he has 3 or 4 MORE of those runs and he has 120 yards.. but he can't break long runs if he never gets the freaking ball.

I guess if we are gonna dream "maybes" we can dream bigger than that can't we? I'd love to have receivers catch the ball when it hits them in the hands, maybe we are up by 30 then?

Pitt has had 8, 9 and 10 in the box to stop the run most of the night.

I think you are exaggerating but for the sake of argument, let's say you are correct...

Then I would think that leaving Chubb in the game and running play action might just freeze those 8, 9, 10 guys for just a split second to allow people to get open faster and to slow up that pass rush just a step.... did we do any of that? F#$# no. We put a back-up to a back-up on the edge with TJ Watt, gave him no help, and went empty backfield most of the night.

Just one reason why I have gone from being upset and questioning KS to being fully on-board with not caring if he's here next year or not.

DC, I'm glad to see you are waking up!!... There is NO GAME PLAN that should include Hudson on Watt by himself. And BTW.. what did we do to adjust when clearly Watt is beating Hudson like a drum?? NOTHING... so that is why I get on Stefanski... no adjustments, just more perplexing play calls.

Smh Landry drops it in the end zone

Looked like landry dropped that on purpose

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Like when he got Njoku wide open and Baker threw it to the defender?

If you are expecting me to say Baker hasn't made mistakes, or has played anything close to good, you are barking up the wrong tree. Baker has looked bad, KS has also
been horrible. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Td finally! Bryant

Well, it is a business after all.

Onside kick coming up..

I'm surprised Pitt fell for that play. Why would they ever believe chubb was handed the ball?

17 plays and Baker didnt throw a interception...things might finally be going our way

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by LexDawg

Originally Posted by PastorMarc

these announcers are right on it ... a run team trying to be a passing team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remove 1 play and Chubb is 10 rushes for 24 yards tonight. His stats dont look bad right now because he is not getting carries. This is no different than when the fans screamed for the backup QB, who turned out not to be able to do anything either.

Or.. alternate thought... give him 10-15 more carries and maybe he has 3 or 4 MORE of those runs and he has 120 yards.. but he can't break long runs if he never gets the freaking ball.

I guess if we are gonna dream "maybes" we can dream bigger than that can't we? I'd love to have receivers catch the ball when it hits them in the hands, maybe we are up by 30 then?

Pitt has had 8, 9 and 10 in the box to stop the run most of the night.

I think you are exaggerating but for the sake of argument, let's say you are correct...

Then I would think that leaving Chubb in the game and running play action might just freeze those 8, 9, 10 guys for just a split second to allow people to get open faster and to slow up that pass rush just a step.... did we do any of that? F#$# no. We put a back-up to a back-up on the edge with TJ Watt, gave him no help, and went empty backfield most of the night.

Just one reason why I have gone from being upset and questioning KS to being fully on-board with not caring if he's here next year or not.

Ah yeah, the luxury of time to run play action. Would be great to have that, wouldn't it? We can say our running game would have bailed us out because we didn't use the running game. Follow the thread again, people scream we dont get the ball to Chubb and then we do and lose yards, or get 1 or 2 yards. Nothing has shown running the ball more would have given us a better outcome except for speculation. I'd be MUCH happier if we ignored a running game that was working. We had nothing tonight.

You know what is the worst I have ever seen is? This franchise and its fans. Yeah it is Baker that sucks...him and the other 29 QB's since 1999. Please cut Baker, so he can get out of this cesspool and maybe salvage his career.

Oh and if you think Wilson, Rodgers, or any other good QB with a choice would go to Cleveland you are delusional. Your best hope is to draft another QB to ruin.

You all are truly pathetic and are you getting what you deserve.

Originally Posted by Jaspercane

17 plays and Baker didnt throw a interception...things might finally be going our way

and maybe not

That's the game...

Coaches need to be held accountable this off-season

9 Sacks on your injured qb is inexcusable

Over

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Like when he got Njoku wide open and Baker threw it to the defender?

If you are expecting me to say Baker hasn't made mistakes, or has played anything close to good, you are barking up the wrong tree. Baker has looked bad, KS has also
been horrible. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Stefanski should get four guys open most of the time instead of three. Then maybe we will be successful.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Like when he got Njoku wide open and Baker threw it to the defender?

If you are expecting me to say Baker hasn't made mistakes, or has played anything close to good, you are barking up the wrong tree. Baker has looked bad, KS has also
been horrible. The two are not mutually exclusive.

The announcers and Twitter are literally making fun of Stefanski's coaching.

Originally Posted by Baker_Dawg

You know what is the worst I have ever seen is? This franchise and its fans. Yeah it is Baker that sucks...him and the other 29 QB's since 1999. Please cut Baker, so he can get out of this cesspool and maybe salvage his career.

Oh and if you think Wilson, Rodgers, or any other good QB with a choice would go to Cleveland you are delusional. Your best hope is to draft another QB to ruin.

You all are truly pathetic and are you getting what you deserve.

I cant disagree with that at all

Originally Posted by Baker_Dawg

You know what is the worst I have ever seen is? This franchise and its fans. Yeah it is Baker that sucks...him and the other 29 QB's since 1999. Please cut Baker, so he can get out of this cesspool and maybe salvage his career.

Oh and if you think Wilson, Rodgers, or any other good QB with a choice would go to Cleveland you are delusional. Your best hope is to draft another QB to ruin.

You all are truly pathetic and are you getting what you deserve.

Who would have guessed Baker_Dawg would turn on the Browns fans?

Originally Posted by Baker_Dawg

You know what is the worst I have ever seen is? This franchise and its fans. Yeah it is Baker that sucks...him and the other 29 QB's since 1999. Please cut Baker, so he can get out of this cesspool and maybe salvage his career.

Oh and if you think Wilson, Rodgers, or any other good QB with a choice would go to Cleveland you are delusional. Your best hope is to draft another QB to ruin.

You all are truly pathetic and are you getting what you deserve.

Is that you Emily?

Omg Harris ran for a td. Embarrassing

Didnt even try to push him out of bounds...at least try to dive and make it look good

Why Not

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Omg Harris ran for a td. Embarrassing

They sold out to stop the run up the middle. He bounced it outside. Those are the breaks.

Pick 6 coming up?

At least this game wasn't to stay alive for the division.

I'd cut a player who didn't try to tackle that RB. F him!

You're a Browns fan?? Oh, I thought you were just the local troll.

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Who the heck is ian?!?!

Originally Posted by Baker_Dawg

You know what is the worst I have ever seen is? This franchise and its fans. Yeah it is Baker that sucks...him and the other 29 QB's since 1999. Please cut Baker, so he can get out of this cesspool and maybe salvage his career.

Oh and if you think Wilson, Rodgers, or any other good QB with a choice would go to Cleveland you are delusional. Your best hope is to draft another QB to ruin.

You all are truly pathetic and are you getting what you deserve.

Is this Baker's wife or his daddy or something?? Baker is playing like HOT CRAP and you want to talk about people turning on him?? Please, he keeps running onto the field with a bad shoulder, telling everyone the harness is not hindering him and then throws to everyone else but Browns!! Baker is the one that mis-reads coverages and MISSES WIDE OPEN receivers. I will not blame it all on Baker because the problem actually starts with Stefanski. Stefanski should have had enought back bone to sit Baker down and let him heal... They both had driven this team down this year!

Another dropped pass... smh

Originally Posted by boofers20

Originally Posted by Baker_Dawg

You know what is the worst I have ever seen is? This franchise and its fans. Yeah it is Baker that sucks...him and the other 29 QB's since 1999. Please cut Baker, so he can get out of this cesspool and maybe salvage his career.

Oh and if you think Wilson, Rodgers, or any other good QB with a choice would go to Cleveland you are delusional. Your best hope is to draft another QB to ruin.

You all are truly pathetic and are you getting what you deserve.

Is that you Emily?

She wouldn't ever come on our board. She is instagram/Twitter only lol

Originally Posted by Baker_Dawg

You're a Browns fan?? Oh, I thought you were just the local troll.

LOL

I'd seriously cut like 50% of the team right now.

Originally Posted by DaveyD

Pick 6 coming up?

LOL. Close enough

Stefanski needs to be FORCED to give up playcalling

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

I'd seriously cut like 50% of the team right now.

This seems like an emotional decision.

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Omg Harris ran for a td. Embarrassing

They sold out to stop the run up the middle. He bounced it outside. Those are the breaks.

Those are the breaks if you are a team of clowns.

Disgraceful. An embarrassment to football fans and the city of Cleveland.

I want Haslam to make a public statement to the fans of this “team” apologizing for the crap we were forced to watch this season.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

I'd seriously cut like 50% of the team right now.

I'd cut 50% of our fans. Guess which group youre in.

Poor eotab boo.hooing now. The refs snd the NFL fixed the game
For Ben.to.win

Originally Posted by redddog

Originally Posted by cfrs15

Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Omg Harris ran for a td. Embarrassing

They sold out to stop the run up the middle. He bounced it outside. Those are the breaks.

Those are the breaks if you are a team of clowns.

Disgraceful. An embarrassment to football fans and the city of Cleveland.

I want Haslam to make a public statement to the fans of this “team” apologizing for the crap we were forced to watch this season.

Haslam kept Hue Jackson after he won one game in two years.

Expectations are this teams worst opponent. Culture hasn’t changed. Berry and stefanski set this team back with bad signings and drafts and double speak concerning the qb. Either it’s next man up for all or none. Anyone with eyeballs knew baker was done for the season after the raiders game. But they marched him out there despite having the highest paid backup qb. Creating a situation where there are no winners and everyone will lose big and we nowadays are starting back over with 4 years wasted. Sorry I think this whole staff is trash

I'd keep everyone.

The coaches gotta tighten the ship.

The play calling has to change

We need a few more pieces to be playoff competitive.

Originally Posted by EveDawg

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

I'd seriously cut like 50% of the team right now.

I'd cut 50% of our fans. Guess which group youre in.

I'll always be critical of our team. This type of play and coaching is completely unacceptable if you want to be a winning organization.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Originally Posted by EveDawg

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

I'd seriously cut like 50% of the team right now.

I'd cut 50% of our fans. Guess which group youre in.

I'll always be critical of our team. This type of play and coaching is completely unacceptable if you want to be a winning organization.

No one will remember this game in six months.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Originally Posted by EveDawg

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

I'd seriously cut like 50% of the team right now.

I'd cut 50% of our fans. Guess which group youre in.

I'll always be critical of our team. This type of play and coaching is completely unacceptable if you want to be a winning organization.

Your tantrums in this thread have been juvenile and not the least bit constructive. Your fan card has been revoked.

If my fan card is revoked does it make me immune from you?

Yes, because when you leave you wont have to see me again.

Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper

Poor eotab boo.hooing now. The refs snd the NFL fixed the game
For Ben.to.win

I'm assuming you don't like the guy lol

Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper

Poor eotab boo.hooing now. The refs snd the NFL fixed the game
For Ben.to.win

Leave EO alone, bro. Guy is sick as hell, and you think you're cute. If you wanna pick a board fight, pick one with me. I'm your huckleberry. Until then, just shut up.

Originally Posted by OldColdDawg

Originally Posted by Iluvmyxstripper

Poor eotab boo.hooing now. The refs snd the NFL fixed the game
For Ben.to.win

Leave EO alone, bro. Guy is sick as hell, and you think you're cute. If you wanna pick a board fight, pick one with me. I'm your huckleberry. Until then, just shut up.

On this one, I'll stand right with you.