Great feeling to have our WIN on Thursday night and we can bask in the glory of a stress-free weekend!!

Cincy at NYJ
Baltimore at NE


It would be nice if one of them got upset

I could see both losing.

Bengals win big.

Ravens lose close.

imo

I think both our division rivals win. We dominated the Jets and lost in almost miraculous fashion. Cinci has a good team. I also think New England's offense is terrible. They really miss McDaniels.

If the Bungals OL doesn't protect Burrow they will be 0-3 ...

We have a very difficult stretch upcoming and it will be difficult to be .500 by then … beating divisional opponents or having them lose is our big hope

One Game at a Time ...

j/c:

Man, Buffalo is going to be w/out 4 defensive starters against the 'Phins and have several others who are questionable.

I’m hoping that game becomes a shootout … tons of offensive weapons. It’ll all depend on how well Tua plays

Hoping Bungles and Rats Lose Tomorrow

Absolutely Pastor. I enjoyed Thursday night for all the obvious reasons but it's kind of nice to have a Sunday off with our Browns. We can sit back and have no stress for one weekend!!!

Now if the Buckeyes hold serve it will be a relaxing weekend

This is a shame.

I think the same doctor who punctured T. Taylor's lung is still on the staff.

They use to keep injuries hidden...now if the kid plays they all have details about his ribs and DL will target them ribs - they did it with Baker and his shoulder. I hope they don't ruin the kid. We already are seeing Burrows falling apart similar to Luck.

If i was Herbert or the Chargers i would never have him play today

I agree.

...I'd take at least 3 weeks off just to play it safe....

I hurt my rib cartilage skiing/falling a number of years back. It hurt like hell for weeks. Multiple multiple weeks. I can’t even imagine trying to play a contact sport in that condition.

I guess I'd much rather we face Chase Daniel on the 9th.

How that comes about, I don't care too much - be it Herbert not playing until the 16th or pressing it today and not being able to play us as we go into that difficult stretch.

The pre-game shows for Sunday's games.

Wow. about as corny as you can get. Mariucci howling with a stupid hat on. Waddling like penguin.

Terry Bradshaw, Glazer, Long, Jimmy Johnson, etc. on a mini field lining up showing a play. Bizarre not even funny at all.

It is all like a competition to say something to the camera.

I have to turn it off or at least mute the sound.

I haven’t watched pregame shows in years. Even the Browns pregame shows. It’s a bunch of ex-jocks thinking they’re witty or clever, while most often having very little conversation about actual football. They slobber over Dallas and the Giants regardless of how awful the teams actually are. Even after a Browns win most of them talk about why the opposing team lost more than why the Browns won. Then they use the Browns as a punchline while cackling like hens. Etc.
Most of the pregame shows are just unwatchable in my mind.

the only play to fear on the ravens in Lamar. i mean good god i hate the ravens, but this O line is so damn horrible. should've been back to back sacks because the D line destroyed the ravens o line, but lamar spins out of a sack, then next play just takes off and races to the 1st down.

dude spun out of a sack, threw a perfect ball to andrews on the run, and he dropped it.

I only seem to care about the Panthers saints game.

i rather watch that but i only get the ravens-patriots or jets-bengals on hulu

j/c...

I like the way this Dolphins team plays.

Titans walking all over the Raiders early.

god imagine Burrow with a real line. he has to be great just for the offense to be competent.

I don't watch them either, don't like 'em.

cousins...man dude has talent but just so uninspiring and basic i dont get it.

Don’t look now but Miami might be that team in the AFC.

Miami is giving Buffalo a run for their money. Miami is a good team this year.

Detroit is surprising Minny.

Carolina is up 10 on the Saints.


The Jets are battling Cinci, and the score doesn't represent the fight at the moment. I think the jets are above average with Flacco and can hang with anyone.

Seems like the year of the underdog.

Man Baker is really lighting up the stat sheet in the Panthers game.
Still can't believe how many were crying cause the Browns
Moved on from him

Tua concussed on a roughing the passer. Bummer.

DeVonta Smith is having himself a day.

The Pats/Ravens game is pretty good. Lamar is a lotta fun to watch play.

Wentz not having a very nice homecoming...

Jalen Hurts 19/29 319 3/0 137.0

Carson Wentz 4/11 28 0/0 44.9

And Wentz has been sacked six times already. Tough day.

Damn Lamar Jackson.

He has made some really good throws.

Patience and touch. He has come a long way as a passer.

I have four games playing right now on the ticket.

Watching the Car/NO game is almost torture. The inaccuracy of both QBs has been nauseating. So many talented offensive weapons on the field and the missed throws have killed it on both sides. Olave has had a great game.

Davis Mills has looked good for Houston. Fields just doesn’t have any weapons.

Lamar has looked good. Mac Jones has looked meh

Crazy how a mediocre qb last year like Tua gets some weapons and all of a sudden is very good. Funny how that works huh Berry. Both LB corps in this game are soo much better than what we have. We need a Baker or Milano

j/c...

Lol.

Man, this Pats/Ravens game is crazy-fun to watch.

Belichick about to send mac jones and the receivers straight to the gulags after this game.

Watching the Texans at Bears and my Bears' fan says "This is a good time for an interception" on 3-1 for the Texans. And there's the pick.

What fun.

i know every fan base is gonna be mad at their defense for missing tackles...but man lamar just makes even the best look silly. its so effortless how he runs, and now he's making some really good throws.

Lamar is a beast

Bears win on fg.

Indy with a late score

oh man, mac jones looks seriously hurt.

Buffalo with the choke

Well more like josh Allen with the choke

Lookout for Miami. Allen just chucked that into the dirt missing open receiver for the TD.

Chiefs just absolutely fell into a trap game against the Colts. They looked bad all day from the players to the coaching decisions.

Damn. Gritty performance by the Colts as Matty Ice outduels Mahomes.

Well the Buffalo game just got interesting

Wow that punt by Moorstead

Punter kicked it off his own man’s 4th POC

Miami punter punts the ball off his owns man's tuchus in the endzone and back out of it for a safety. Oops!

hollins of the raiders just embarrassed that DB on that endzone catch.

Buff/Mia game down to the wire.

Lions/Vikes down to the wire

Raiders just missed the 2pt to tie

damn raiders 0-3.

Miami/Buffalo has felt like playoff game atmosphere all day.

Lions just had broken coverage to give up the go ahead TD with 45 seconds left

Another Belichick disciple that will collect some HC money before heading back home to dad to resume coordinator duties.

Buffalo couldn't get the ball clocked in time. Miami wins. Intense game.

Former Browns WR coach off to a great start in his HC career.

Allen would have been better served to fire that ball at the feet of the the WR.

WR should have just given himself up after the catch instead of running east/west for five seconds.

Wish I could have seen the whole game, but the Indy game was pretty exciting as well.

This poor tablet never saw it coming.

j/c:

It must be getting ready to rain here again, my DirecTV is going dead.

we all felt this.

Hard fought win for the Packers. Bucs come up short on the 2 point conversion after Brady leads them 87 yards for the TD.


Aaaand...

The last two undefeated teams in the NFL are the Philadelphia Eagles and Miami Dolphins. Miami has beaten the Patriots, Ravens and Bills. Hopefully they have a smackdown in store for the Bengals on Thursday Night.

That coordinator is a idiot. He played up to the camera.
He wanted to show the viewing audience just how
Angry He was and how disappointing the finish was
How original of him.
How phoney can you get

I didn't get to see as many games as usual. My freaking Sunday Ticket wasn't working. I spent the entire time on the phone w/multiple reps. I was beyond heated! It's the first time I raised my voice in ages. All I got for the first half of the 1:00 games were the local broadcasts. Bills/'Phins and Panthers/Saints.

I can't believe I read the word "choke" on here earlier. Anyway, the biggest stories of the Bills/Miami game were the injuries and the weather. People refer to it as humidity, but it is actually a high dew point that makes you sweat and leads to all that cramping. The Bills lost, but I thought they made a heroic effort in that crappy ass weather. Again, I don't think people from many parts of the country understand how zapping that weather can be. With that said, the 'Phins played very well. Two very good teams. The Bills are going to win the division, so Miami's win might hurt our playoff chances.

The Panthers/Saints game featured some of the worst qb play I have witnessed. Baker was below 50% yet again. Missed open receivers. Hardly threw for any yards except one of his receivers took a 2-yd. dump off pass and eluded tacklers and took it 65 yards for a TD. Winston sucked even though he put up a lot of yardage. Threw two more picks and missed throws. And his temper tantrum was embarrassing. Also, Kamara fumbled and it was returned for a TD.

Other games that I saw.

Too many injuries for Tampa Bay and Green Bay's receivers are not very good. Two very good defenses.

Murray came back to earth for the Cardinals.

Nice win for Atlanta even though they almost blew it by fumbling a RPO.

The Chargers coach is a dumb ass.

I saw Lamar in the 2nd half and the dude is amazing. He might be going for another MVP.

Philly looked good in the little I saw. Hurst has really improved.

Detroit lost another heartbreaker. Felt bad for them.

I can't remember much more right now because I'm still furious w/Direct TV!!!

Eagles have been my 'sleeper' team this offseason/pre-season. I think Jalen is going to have an MVP like season, they are primed to go far into the playoffs imo.

Funny to read so many consistent complaints about the Chargers HC - I know Herbert has looked spectacular at times, but it seems like poor coaching is only an excuse for players posters like. When it's the Brown's and Freddie and Hue, no leniency was ever offered, in fact to point out how inept the coaching was got ridiculed as "excuses". In a choice between Staley, Hue and Freddie - it's not even a contest Staley is so far ahead of the others.

Miami ain't no joke this year. Already beat Pats, Ravens, and the Bills with Bengals, Jets, Vikings, Steelers, Lions, Bears, Browns, and Texans coming up before their next rough stretch. I'd say there is a good chance they make the playoffs.

Chargers coach is not the problem. Half their team is injured.

I bet the division is close between Miami and the Bills. Much of it may depend on injuries IMHO. They are well matched.

I am happy we didn’t trade for Russell Wilson. I didn’t want him in the off-season and still don’t want him.

j/c...

Browns to face a banged up Herbert and what's looking like a Mac Jones-less Patriots squad. Sometimes it's nice to catch a few breaks along the way.

Video breakdown of Mac Jones injury.

j/c...


lmao

I thought he was a top 3 QB when he was at his peak. I don't know if it is injury or what that is making him play so far off that level.

Miami is the perfect example of not settling for mediocre coaching, It also shows that a GM that understands how the game is played now and gets those players. Can't say the same for Berry. Miami barring injuries will be going quite far. Their defense is what a bend but don't break is supposed to look like.. Give up a ton of yards but stop them from scoring points. If Buffalo doesn't fix their line they aren't going anywhere. Too much pressure on Allen consistently. Thats going to be a fun division to watch

He was a great QB. He’s still good.

But the main reason is his age, the assets given up for his age, and I feel his play will fall off quickly in the next couple years.

Agreed. The contract extension seemed premature. New ownership likely wanted to send a message to the fans announcing their commitment to bringing back a winner. Broncos are stuck with Wilson through the 2025 season when he'll be 37. Even if they release him (should his play really fall off) heading into the 2026 season, Wilson will have a dead cap hit of $31.2M.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/russell-wilson-9885/

Yikes, I couldn’t remember if they extended him or not. Yea, no thanks to that.

Your reasoning is definitely sound. Sort of like when they brought in Peyton however many years ago.

A few notes from today’s games


- I knew Baltimore and Cincy would both win. Too much to ask for them to lose.

- LA and NE are not as formidable as I thought. La because of injuries, and NE also lost Mac Jones today. Hmm.

- Atlanta will be a tough game for us … they have 3 GOOD playmakers … that game scares me more than the NE game.

- Raiders move to 0-3. Talk about a bad start.

- Cardinals stink. I think their coach will be gone.

Our power was out for two days and we had no idea when it would come back. Power flicked on at 3:15 pm my time (2:15 est) and wife was working, so I got to switch around a lot of different games today on NFL Ticket (sorry Vers hahaha).

Felt bad for the Lions because they might be a feel-good story if they can get some wins together. I like their coach, Campbell seems to be on top of things. Jacksonville rolled over the Chargers. Hiring a proven coach like Peterson was a smart move, an offensive-minded coach with a young QB like Lawrence. But their D looked really good today, fast.

Buffalo were missing a lot of starters today but still almost won, and probably should have - they were a dropped pick 6 away from clinching that game .

Lamar is so good, I wish he played on another team.

Atlanta can certainly put up points. Defense is, meh. Not a team to be overlooked.

Jimmy G just pulled a "Dan Orlovsky."

Not a believer in Miami or McDaniel yet. Lot of season left.

Denver looks awful

If Stefanski is a good coach the Browns should be at 3-1 after next week.

I am worried about Atlanta next week. Not their defense, but their offense. Woods has a tough task ..ugh

If Stefanski is good, he'll make sure Woods is good.

Atlanta really is playing loose and nothing is expected of them
That makes for a dangerous team In some ways
Don't look now but Drake London is emerging as promising
Rookie WR. 16 catches and 2 TDs. Him and Mariotta are
Developing chemistry.
I know most Browns fans had this as a automatic win
5 weeks ago. Not so fast.
There is no automatic wins in the NFL.

Let’s hope!

Miami looked impressive.... Houston is terrible... Vegas is gonna fire their coach in two games... man I'm glad we didn't trade for Wilson... Rats got luck with some bad play from NE... how the hell did we lose to the Jets?!?

Jets are the worst team in the league. Browns should be 3-0. Woods is infuriating.

Vegas is a huge disappointment. Carr looks terrible, and he was pretty good last year. Adams looks like he wished he stayed in GB.

Man would be nice if the Browns played defense like these two teams.

Team not buying into McDaniels. Like I said earlier, he'll collect that HC money, get canned and head back to his Belichick to resume coordinator duties. Belichik may make him start lower on the totem pole just to let him know who is boss.

Drake London is the real deal.

Hear me out......blessing in disguise?!?

#GlassHalfFull <shrugs emoji>

I wanted McDaniels over Stefanski. I was buying into that whole better the second go round possibility.

Oh I got to mention Nick Siriani. Watch his initial presser after being hired and tell me if there was any possibility at all he'd be a good head coach.

Kudos to him and Hurts. The Eagles are fun.

That and Howie Roseman is really good at his job.

Jimmy G reminding the country why the 49er's traded to get Trey Lance. i dont understand why people still try to hype this dude up.

True. It's also true that he's better than Lance. They walked themselves into a really weird situation there.

he should be better than trey lance right now. he's been in the league for a while, has a lot of experience, and is healthy (at the moment). Trey is inexperienced, super raw and now injured.

Trey lance is still an unknown. Jimmy G is known. very well known.

Really gutless by Hackett there. You play for the first down, not to have SF burn their last timeout. Worked for them though.

Oh and Chubb with a huge play when it mattered. Want to see more or that from Garrett.

The Miami head coach looks like a fish out of water, but his team plays well. I think their is trust building with that team.

Fish out of water -- get it?? lol

I really didn't know much about him and ran across this... I'm thinking "wow, how did I miss this whole story line?"





Let's be honest, on the surface, he seems a little goofy.

One team that looks unreal right now is Philly. Hurts and that offense is humming … and their DL flies around too.

no, he seems down to earth and really open about his positivity in life.

it only seems goofy to people who are used to most men acting like squares all the time, especially at the HC position in the nfl.

Miami is a good story, but Buffalo is the better team. They pretty much dominated the game yesterday. All of Buffalo's injuries were a factor, but they still would have won the game w/out the weather factor. I feel pretty confident that when it all plays out, Buffalo will finish above Miami.

Just for you.

Agreed. Whatever the gameplan the Jaguars had against the Chargers yesterday ought to be followed by us when we have to play them. Totally unexpected outcome.

Eve, I was talking about how he left Herbert late in the game when the score was 38 to 10. The coach also blew several games last year due to terrible decisions in which he ignored analytics and made them because he was "trying to prove a point to his team." He's an idiot.

Well they were also missing Allen, Bosa, Slater, etc.

But their run game killed them too

maybe. but the better team in the nfl is determined by who won the game, not who's better on paper. im sure we can find people who will try to make the argument that the raiders are better than the titans. but are they?

miami has such a great team that they are capable of completely hiding flaws that Tua has. with the Bills, it's Allen or bust. Allen is what lamar is to buffalo right now, meaning they are completely reliant on the QB bailing them out of every horrible position EVERY single time. miami and buffalo are gonna play again this season, but its hard for me to agree that they are better than miami, especially when miami had a punt go off a blockers ass for a safety and STILL won.

ding ding ding.. On paper is such a cop out.. thats why they play the games.. Anyone watching the game yesterday sure didn't come away thinking Buffalo was a better team. They came after Allen all day and he couldn't do anything at the end. Their front 7 is pretty good at collapsing the pocket. With players like Hill/waddle/Gesecki, they can get plays when they need them. Almost all of Buffalos plays came off of broken plays where Allen had to scramble because his line is only good for about a second before it collapses. Allen is a great player but if they don't figure out how to keep him protected, its just going to be a matter of time. Miami is surprisingly well coached. My only concern with them is Tua, he makes a few plays but leaves a ton out there, Not sure how the game goes yesterday if Buffalo secondary was healthy, but Miami receivers are really good, especially Waddle. I think both teams will be battling all season, going to come down to who stays healthy I think

I get that and I agree that Buffalo asks so much of Allen. But, I thought Buffalo pretty much controlled the game. All that cramping and some odd plays changed things. Consider these stats.

Buffalo led in first downs: 31 15

Total plays: Buffalo 90----Miami 39

Time of Possession: Buffalo at 40.40---------Miami at 19:20

Total Yards: Buffalo at 497---------Miami at 212

I understand that the only stat that counts is the final score, but I think Buffalo is the superior team.

The thing that stood out to me about that Bills/Dolphins game was how inconsistently both teams run the football. Maybe I’m just used to our brand of football with Chubb, but the Dolphins would struggle to pick up 4 yards with their backs.

That is not true. I'm listening to guys analyzing the game right now and they are saying the same things I have been saying.

I agree Buffalo is the better team. If we are basing the evaluation on who won then the Jets are a better team than the Browns. Does anyone actually believe that?

The Dolphins have a nice little lightning in a bottle moment going on right now. I don't think it will last.

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i agree that they controlled the game between the redzone. but all that control doesn't mean anything if you can't finish off the drives.

those stats say they moved the ball in the open field. those stats ALSO say they were extremely inefficient as an offense. lets remember, the only reason why the score was 21-19 was because of the punt that went off the blocker for a safety. without that play, the Bills have to go and score a TD instead of simply trying to get into FG range.

but all those stats without the scoring says they would've got up and down the field, only to not score the game winning TD. Miami had the ball for 20 minutes, but they maximize their opportunities with that. IMO, the stats make buffalo's loss look even worse than it was real time. especially since those stats say it should've been a blowout.

so look at the stats from a bigger picture, and it tells you one offense was far more effective and efficient than the other.

Outside of unforseen injury Buffalo is the best team in football IMO.

It is a long season that has just begun. The best teams lose games. It happens.

But if the Bills play the Dolphins in the playoffs. I would think the Bills would win that game.

Great interview here listening to Hawk talk about Mike McDaniel when McDaniel was the Browns WR coach.

jc

look, people can say that "he's off the team so move on" all they want, but we all know that as browns fans, we're gonna be paying attention to what baker does with the panthers this season, and possibly next if he's on the team.

dude was 12/25 yards, 170 yards, TD, with an 11.3 QBR.

man, not looking good.

Just updating: Bosa and Slater may be out a while for the Chargers. That’s a really tough break for them

Interesting.

It is popular to talk about innovation in football. The truth is. There is not much of it.

Most all of what is now has been done before.

Todays coaches were all mentored by the coaches they came in contact with. The techniques are recycled. The schemes are recycled.

There have been few real innovators.

bro i dunno why, but not personal just in football life, kyler makes me angry. i dont care what anyone says, i'm glad the cards tried to put that clause in the contract with regards to him studying. that's why guys like lamar keep leveling up while he doesn't on the football field.

I'm in Charlotte and I will be interested to see how he does here - so have watched the game vs Browns and the game yesterday. Baker has looked bad in both games. I've seen him play much better - so some of it is defenses stopping what he does well, a lot of it is WR's and Baker not being on the same page, a lot of it is he is rushing and panicking, and in my personal opinion McAdoo is not calling plays to help Baker - to me one of Baker's strengths was the long ball to an isolated WR on a Go or Post route - I don't think I have seen any plays like that, everything is short/intermediate. The Panthers OL was flat bad vs the Browns they were ok yesterday. McCaffrey is great but it's a very different run game than the physicality of the Browns zone scheme. We will see how it goes - Baker didn't have a long period with the team before the season and he spent most of preseason splitting reps. . . . overall if you are Panthers fan you have to be concerned.

is Rhule a big problem? like, starting to feel like a Matt Nagy situation. doesn't matter the QB, dude just wasn't a good HC?

I see the Baker Fan Club aren't chirping like they was 60 days ago.
32nd rated QB....it must be the injury from last year right ?

Said at the time Jacoby Brisset was a lateral move on Baker in of itself and Watson can be elite.


All things equal, I think that's still true. I will say, Mayfeild SUUUUCKED playing the Steelers and Baltimore for that matter. Brisset not turning it over has proven to be a medium to big upgrade of Baker being a turnover machine against division rivals.

I don't know - he is widely criticized here, but from what I can gather he didn't have a OC that was worth a damn last year and was forced to take over and was not able to manage HC and OC roles. Not having watched Panthers games before I don't know. in Training camp the universal feedback was Baker looked miles better than Darnold and would be an improvement - we haven't seen that on Sundays though. Unless there is a strong of wins Rhule is certainly on the hot seat. Owner is notorious for quick trigger!

Brissett is doing damn well for us; especially for his history. He is literally having a career year thus far, playing WAY above what he's ever done at any other stop in his career.

I don't know what to make of that: either all he ever needed was to be surrounded by better talent and given the right scheme with a strong run game, or there is a very real probability that he will begin to regress to his mean. Once we face tougher defenses, that may well be what we get.

Browns vs Chargers and Patriots looking like they may not be quite the uphill battle as it originally appeared.

Swish - I meant to mention, Orlovsky did a breakdown of the Panthers second game ripping the coaching. (It might have been posted here?) - basically McCaffrey was lined up next to Baker on all the pass plays and he was lined up a step/yard back on rush plays ... it was a massive tell for the D. Not a good look for Rhule/McAdoo

j/c:

Baker has been really bad thus far. Fields right with him

I watched quite a bit of their game yesterday. During the telecast, I heard one of the announcers utter something like there was talk during the week leading up to the game that the WRs were not running the right routes after Baker missed a WR by a long shot. The color guy said something like "that was just a bad throw." I wonder where that leak came from? It sure sounded awfully familiar, as does the talk about firing the head coach.

He's playing terribly. But I see you and some others keep chirping about it. And the sad thing is, many of those still chirping about said they didn't want to hear about Baker anymore.

There's a great line from a good movie called the Devils Advocate
Al Pacino says " Its fun to be right "
It's fun to see the Browns at 2 and 1.
And it's just as much fun to see Baker fail in Carolina
The Browns finally have a real professional at QB.
Not a child but a real pro
I've never seen such a average QB stimulate such emotion
Out of a loyal fan base such as Mayfield
Every excuse was made for his porous 2021 year
And it was excuses that didn't hold water

Goofy, yes, but that is without question the best and probably most accurate answer to the question.

The NY Giants OL has been straight up hot garbage for years. They displayed that once again last night.

I read somewhere he has the worst QBR of any starting QB so far. His PFF rating is 43.3....that's putrid.

Normal people call that being vindictive and nasty.


He was injured almost the entire season last year. You do understand the difference between excuses and facts, correct? There's nothing wrong with him now other than he is playing like crap.

How are you in the great state of Tennessee?
My buddie from childhood just caught a state record blue cat
118 lbs ...wonders.
So back to Mayfield.
Baker yes played injuried in 2021.
But that injury had no bearing on his porous decision making
Last year. Or his penchant for missing wide open Targets.
He snookered John Dorsey into drafting him with
His false bravado and Mr.Chip on My Shoulder mantra.
I mean Dorsey was out of football for a year before
Becoming Browns GM. He couldn't see that Josh Allen or Lamar
Jackson was better options than Baker?
Dorsey was studying film day and night on these QBs

So now we fast forward to today
Mayfield QBR is 32 out 32 QBs.
And this is from a the number 1 QB drafted overall.
Baker simply is a very average QB on good day.
Take away that pass play from Sunday...he throws for barely a 100
Yards.
Panther fans can't wait to move past Mayfield.

I have no idea what part of me saying he is playing bad you don't understand. How quickly people forget that he led us to the playoffs and a playoff win for the first time in 15 years. I don't really recall anyone saying he was a top NFL QB. In fact average what what most of us said. Maybe you are having memory issues?

Save your breath ! Herbert has an injured rib and there are excuses about the pain he is in.... Baker had a torn shoulder and broken humerus and "it didn't affect his decision making" .... LOL. I'm sure that getting hit by 300lb DL while having those injuries didn't impact his decision making at all. Bottom line is that he's not here - the posters still talking about him are the haters. I still believe he's a top 15 or better QB in the NFL. He's not playing like it so far - but Panthers are a poop show right now. Lets wait till week 7 or 8.

Watching that game (CAR/NO) was almost torture. The QB play from both sides wasn't pretty.

Maybe Baker hurt his throwing shoulder!!

Why wait till week 7 or 8...Is Baker going to magically turn
Into a good starting QB? I don't understand why some think
Mayfield is still a long term starter?

What's really hard to understand is why the 80% that don't care either way have to read the same, tireless, endless rants... day after day after day.

Maybe just start a Baker sucks thread?

It's probably all due to his injury.


https://catcrave.com/2022/09/26/4-major-observations-baker-mayfield-performance-vs-saints/

No kidding. Lol at who can't keep his name out of their posts!

Quick check in on Baker. Nothing changes.

Including people obsessing about it.

Or people obsessing about people obsessing.

Just life on a message board.

Just an obvious observation. It seems to be a trend among a few.