Happy Draft Day!

I think there is a pretty good chance this pick is traded.

You see a lot of trade rumors before every draft. But the closer to the draft a prediction is and more sources reporting the same thing within just hours before the draft begins gives it far more a sense of validity.

If the Texans pass on Stroud Arizona will get a kings ransom ... JMHO

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If I am running the Texans and decide to pass on a Qb at, my plan wound be to draft a Qb in round 1 next year. So I trade this pick for that king's ransom.
Really load up in round 1 next year to guarantee that I have a top pick. Between the Texans pick and whoever they trade with (Indy?, Atl?) there is a very good hance you enfd up with a top 2 pick, if not the #1 itself. Picking at 4 or 7 would not (in my mind) be a significant talent difference in this draft.


The alternative would be making a run at Lamar after the draft so that you aren't giving up that#2 overall pick.

I heard none of Will Levis’s teammates went to his 21st Birthday Party, 🤷‍♂️

Yes, but he returned the $100 they stuck in his playbook, and told them to give it to him after he won them a Super Bowl.

Nice move by the NFL honoring the three UVA players that were murdered.

In case anyone is interested we have the live chat for draft discussion.

Heidi Gardner??? I get a flashback to the weekend update desk.

I love Roger Goodell,
not what he stands for, his position, or any thing he has done as commissioner,
or compared to Rosell or Tagliabue, or for how he harms the game with unneeded changes.
Other than that, I love Roger Goodell.
NFL draft.
I Want More.
Factory of sadness, I want more

terrible picks by our awful GM, and FO, I want more.

scenario number twenty five. # the Browns draft only players who play defensive back, with all 8 picks.

Andrew Berry could walk right into a pine forrest, directly up to the worst Christmas tree.

Two hundred forty nine bottles of beer on the wall, two hundred forty nine bottles of beer.
;;
two hundred forty eight bottles of beer on the wall.

Yep

Texans thank the Browns for Will Anderson Jr.

Dear Lord, please let someone take Jalen Carter before the steelers can.

I really don't understand how/why Young went 1st.


When he throws, the bottom half of his body just doesn't go with the top half.

Plus, He's short, he's skinny, he has smaller than-average hands and a weaker-than-average arm, and processes information slower than average.

... ANOTHER top five overall pick for the Illinois fighting illini,
a,i, D Witherspoon CB, fifth overall.

And the first offensive tackle is gone P. Johnson Jr. Ohio state, #6 overall.

Murray has clamored for an OT in Arizona and they never listened. He now has one.

Might be a reach, though?

Raider pick in, checking number ninety three on the board for perspective of who it might be,
stay classy Raider team.

I will go further to say that Richardson will be a better QB than Young.

Richardson is average at best (as a passer) ... JMHO

Falcons please take Jalen Carter before our rival can.

The player I don't like in the top 30 board is Bresee the Clemson DL. imo.

This is where Goodell lights a sparkler and pets a dog.

... Bijon Robinson RB, to the Falcons 8th overall
seventh was Tyree Wilsonn edge texas tech to the raiders.

The Eagles traded up to number nine, for who?
... Jalen Carter Dt Georgia.

Whew, he didn't go to Pittsburgh: puke.

....And the Eagles get Jalen Carter. The best talent in the draft.

Nice replacement for Javon Hargrave.

Ten , Bears, Darnell Wright OT tenn. well... he had the form the posture, I think the techni@ue.
I think the total package at OT, could put on bulk. hmm.
played RT. ten to the bears.

Titans pick Peter skoronski, OT,, maybe a conciliation prize after two @b's and a OT were already taken.
But a solid good player none the less.

Lions take a running back, Jahymr Gibbs from Alabama. at Twelve overall I2.
to Detroit.

Crazy that 2 RB have gone in the top 12. So much for RB not being valued.

Detroit has not had a real running game for a couple decades besides overly committing to it in playcalling.
if Detroit gets a running game, ... they will only lack a defense and, y'know, intestional fortitude.

The Browns are only sixty one picks away,

WE WANT MORE.

The Packers take a slow iowa player,. Lukas Van Ness LB edge whatever, .. thirteenth overall.

60 picks until

Steelers trade up to take Tackle Broderick Jones

No Wr taken yet, the best avail? probably Jalen Hyatt imo, but not others opinon,
at fifteen the Jets
with a make a wish kid pick, ... Will Mcdonald lb, iowa st,

Browns pick in fifty eight picks.

Emmanuel Forbes I6th overall to the Washington no name team.

Patriots get Gonzalez the top ten ranked cornerback from Oregon. at number seventeen overall.

Should the Browns be trying to trade up into the top 40 or 34ish...

I8 = Jack Campbell Iowa to Detroit linebacker
nineteen Calijah Kancey to Tampa Bay, DL/edge/LB/ DL. from pitt university

I think there will be a run on WR by pick fifty five.

Jaxon smith Njigba wr ohio state, #20 overall to the seattle seahawks.
WR one in selected order

Chargers up, wr #2 @uenton Johnston TCU, wow, incredible runner,
a rb in a WR pos, imo, where??? are his catches in traffic, incredible runner with the ball in his hands

Jack Campbell went a lot higher than most thought...I was kinda hoping he would be there for a trade in late round 2. Hopefully there won't be run on DT and DE until round 3 lol

Ravens take WR Zay Flowers

ravens 22 overall, zay flowers .. wr 3. boston college.
3 WR in a row.

Teams are realizing that the way to the SB is throwing
The football. Ground and pound will get you to the playoffs
At best

23,overall, WR Jordan Addison Usc 4 WR in a row. WR#4 4th WR taken. to the Minnesota Vikings

Giants 24th overall Deonte Banks db, Maryland.

To the bills TE one, Dalton Kincaid Utah at #twenty five overall.
the bills did not have a good TE, now they have a chance at one.

The cowboys are on the clock, can you imagine Jalin Hyatt in dallas, oh my freakin goodness, hope not,
don't do it jimmy. take a Center, ... yeah a center Cowboys...
the Cowboys pick
#26th overall .. = Mazi smith DT michigan

twenty seventh overall, anton Harrison OT, to the jaguars to protect trevor Lawrence.

twenty eight, bengals are on the clock.

sigh, once again, the Bengal coach = better, and the Bengal pass rush better than the Browns
they drafted to strength, team strength.

Bengal get Myles Murphy #two seven overall. frown... DE Clemson.

... Berry gets... robyn to batman in the draft.

Best avail edge rushers...
Nolan smith edge Georgia... No, eh, I don't like him.
Bryan Bresee DL Clemson, ehh No, I don't like him,
BJ Olujulari.

Twenty ninth overall, saints get Bryan Bresee DL Clemson.
scratch him off.

Crazy night at the Texans draft party!

Derek Hall Auburn edge
Adetomiwa Adebawore DL nw.
Gervon Dexter IDL florida
Felix the cat, shh, don't mention him, < TRADE UP for him Berry, errrggggh. edge Ksu
Keion White edge Georgia tech
Jalen Redmond Oklahoma edge,
Trenton simpson, Clemson, Trenton the Tiger, a 2nd guy I like
Moro Ojomo the dL texas, I like.

...

30th overall the Eagles
Nolan smith to Philadelphia edge, from UGA

Chiefs got the top player in the draft at #3I
Felix Andike Uzomah goes 3I, edge Ksu, to the chiefs

YOU BLEW IT BERRY
BERRY YOU BLEW IT. how'd you let him get away.

Zay Flowers going to the Ravens is not a good thing.

This guy is super quick. They signed Lamar and Odell and added a flyer in Flowers.

Their offense got better.

No doubt a good player.

We picked up Moore, so we got better too.

Now the long wait until 9:30 ish without a trade to find out who we select.

I know we have our needs, but I really hope we stick to our board and take the best players we can and not worry about needs so much. After the draft we can still make a few moves to address needs, and at "cheap" prices as well. If you are going to spend money on a scouting department, and possibly contract with a few free agent scouts or scouting services, then you need to trust that.

Starting where we are starting, the odds are slim we select an all-pro, but if we do I think it is more likely because we trusted our scouting and went with the best player we could select. Maybe he will be in a position of need, maybe not. Selecting some OG isn't going to move the needle of public opinion, but in 3-years, nobody remembers that if the guy is a solid pro we want to extend.

To translate to baseball, and take on something Savage said, we don't need to hit homeruns. As baseball guys, singles and doubles go a long way towards winning baseball games. I'll be happy with a few singles this weekend.

Some thoughts after Round 1:

--Baltimore went from looking like a possible dumpster fire to having Lamar, OBJ, and Flowers. Damn!

--Philly wins the night w/Jalen Carter and Nolan Smith.

--I don't get why Detroit took a RB. They have Swift and Montgomery on their roster. They need defensive help.

--Steelers w/a wise move to move up a couple of spots and grab an OT.

--Texans made a big splash w/Stroud and Anderson.

--Cowboys reached a bit for Mazi Smith.

--Minnesota once again failed to address their defense.

--It was painful to watch the shots of Will Levis and his family as he sat and fell out of the first round.

As for Baltimore, they had Lamar. I never thought he was going to leave. As for OBJ, he has never lived up to the hype since his days in NY. He may have a bit of a resurgence, but I doubt he goes back to being a top 5-10 receiver.

No doubt Philly is sick. Just sick....sick I a good way if you are a Philly fan. Those boys might need to learn to eat some bagels and Philly Cheese stakes, but for those boys Philly might need to put some grits and country ham on the training table.

Of the 31 players drafted in this year's first round, 18 of them came from either the Big 10 or the SEC. Both conferences had 9 players drafted last night. Alabama, Georgia, and Ohio State led the way with 3 each. That's not surprising, but it's still noteworthy.

It is interesting that you point out the Levis reaction. I hate the draft being this late in the year. There is so much "news" put out and so many rumors from unnamed sources, probable smoke screens from teams and other disinformation. I swear when I first started just poking around sites Levis was considered a risk and Stroud was nearly a lock for #1 pick. In the past week one of Levin's "people" supposedly said he thought he was going number 1 overall to Carolina and then reports of Stroud dropping out of the first 7 picks and maybe being the 4th or 5th QB.

I have always heard of the silly season and this past week certainly it.

As an aside, if I were a GM, I would never tell my true intentions to anyone outside the organization and would fire any employee I found out was doing it. In the past we have had FOs who seemed to let people know what we were thinking and to me that is never good. I feel it leaves you quite vulnerable during trade talks. Anyway, I digress. Hopefully we can get some help during day 2.

The only team who would have nothing to gain by hiding their draft intentions would be the team drafting at #1. There's nothing anyone can do to stop them from drafting who they want. Otherwise teams should never tip their hand. But then I think that's the very reason we see so much disinformation. Teams leak the wrong information to keep everyone else off track. While I agree with Vers that it was painful to watch the Levis family sitting, waiting and watching. It was hilarious watching Todd McShay giving Mel Kiper a ton of grief over Levis still not being drafted when Kiper had been talking Levis up the entire night. I actually didn't see the kid being first round material but that's just me.

My old hunting buddy lives in Alpena Michigan and is a huge Lions fan. We spoke before the draft and after their second pick in round one, #18. He was beside himself with the Lions picking the second RB in the draft at #12. I told him I wish I could tell him something to make him feel better about the pick but I had nothing to offer. With all the trades it made for an entertaining night. I think the Texans and the Eagles had the best night.

1. I'm far from being concerned with Lamar and OBJ (Injuries waiting to Happen) and a unproven Rookie who will have Lamar throwing to him for a while, maybe?

2. Philly did have a great first round ...

3. I thought the same thing when the Lions picked a RB ...

4. Yes the Squeelers needed OL ...

5. Texans used their draft capital wisely ...

6. Cowboys messed up BIG TIME ...

7. Vikings needed defense ...

8. Never thought Levis was a first Round QB ... And Let me add the Colts also got fleeced by the "Experts" Richardson is not good ... JMHO

Richardson somewhat reminds me of Lamar as a rookie coming into the NFL. Not a very accurate passer but great as a scrambler. Lamar has improved as a passer but that's certainly not a given for a QB entering the NFL. It's going to be a matter of feast or famine with him. I didn't see the consistency from him at the college level to take that kind of a gamble with him in the draft. Only time will tell I guess.

j/c

Will Levis Will Not Attend Second Night of NFL Draft in Kansas City, per Report

After falling out of the first-round of the NFL draft, Kentucky quarterback Will Levis will not attend Friday night’s festivities in Kansas City, according to a report from Nick Roush of Kentucky Sports Radio.

Levis, who was sitting in the green room at Union Station all night on Thursday only to not be selected, will instead spend his Friday night elsewhere. Levis is expected to be picked early in the second round.

The Kentucky quarterback was one of the top quarterback prospects throughout the pre-draft prospects, but was a clear step behind Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud, who were the top two prospects at the position entering Thursday.

Once Young and Stroud were selected, it was anyone’s guess who would go next between Levis and Florida quarterback Anthony Richardson. Ultimately, Richardson went No. 4 to the Colts, and there were no more quarterbacks selected on Thursday night.

Levis spent his final two seasons as the starting quarterback at Kentucky after sitting behind Sean Clifford at Penn State.

With the Wildcats, Levis completed 65.7% of his passes for 5,232 yards and 43 touchdowns to 23 interceptions.

The second round and third rounds of the 2023 NFL draft will take place on Friday night, starting at 7 p.m. ET.

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Does anyone have an idea who will draft Levis? I think the Seahawks at 37 or the Raiders at 38 could be possibilities.

Titans with pick #41 is a real possibility.

There are at least a few ideas. Although I have no idea how it will play out.

Tampa Bay is one possibility. Let's face it, their choices at the time are between Baker and Trask. Not an enviable situation to be in at the QB position. And neither are anyone they can rely on to fix the position long term. This would give Levis a season or at least part the season to work his way into the line up. While I have no idea what Tampa bay plans to do, it would make sense they are considering this as an option.

I think you could also look at teams who may not be sold with their current starter or teams with aging QB's looking to draft their QB of the future.

When we were in the quarterback market. Man I studied all available quarterbacks.

Breaking down every piece of tape I could fine. This year I barely looked at all.

You can't help but see a little of the top guys. Young looked really good to me. If he was 6'2" or more. They would be talking like he was the second coming of Joe Namath.

Stroud is a big strong viable quarterback. I didn't see much of him but he looked the part. Richardson I saw on the whiteboard with Mariucci. Impressive guy. A physical specimen if there ever was one.

Levis. I saw part of his pro day. He looked very stiff and mechanical to me. I could not put my finger on it but I didn't like him.
I did not study him. I did not really break him down. The little I saw of game tape. He looked uncertain in reading the field.

I think if I would have broken down his game tape. I would see the why he fell out of the first round.

Every year someone gets left in the green room at the draft.

To me they're a sacrifice to/for the media who pump up their revenues promoting these guys that probably had only a small chance at being drafted in the first round.

Heck they tried the same thing with Deshaun Kizer.

I've been watching the NFL network most of the day and some of what they have said about the reasons Levis has dropped are: 1. He couldn't beat out Sean Clifford at Penn St. and Sean isn't being touted as an elite QB, This came from Michael Robinson. 2. Teams saw on tape that he's not the most accurate QB plus he threw 23 ints in just 2 years. 3. It was also reported that he came across so cocky in the interview process that teams thought he was smug and could be hard to coach.

Think they might prefer Hooker over Levis.

Could see Levis falling further and landing somewhere like Miami as Tua insurance.

We neee to draft Bo Callahan. Make it happen!

That's who came to my mind when they were talking about Levis. lol

I can see this, I’ve had a few buddies meet him, and they all said he is a complete butthole.

LOLetc.! Say it with me! Bo . . ..

Whoever sits there is going to get action.

If not, my guess is they draft Joey Porter Jr. They need a corner and he is a natral for them to draft.

42 Picks until we draft

Good call Peen! Steelers draft Porter Jr!

Hooker ?

There goes Levis

Ding ding ding!

Although they traded up to get Levis.

You called it bro, a trade up but still the right call!

oooh, First IOL goes steve avila to the rams, at pick 36.

... There really should be a, line of thinking that picks twenty eight, to fifty four are the real 2nd round
and every twenty picks makes a round.

thirty seven. Derrick Hall LB auburn to seattle.
kind of an edge rushing Linebacker.

Derrick Hall was a nice pick for Seattle

Jonathan Stewart is still jacked

Could you imagine the Browns getting Trenton simpson DE, and Moro Ojomo, DL, tall about a pass rush gain

How about Jalin Hyatt and Kayshon Boutte, the top 2 Wr imo , ... Mingo probably 3rd.

Mingo goes 3 nine to Carolina

I love Mingo. I think he’s tough

Foskey from ND goes to New Orleans at 40, Edge rushers are rulinlg the day, AGAIN.

Edge is Turning into a MUST have

Marvin Mims would be nice to get for us

If the Browns picked right now they could get a good OL Torrence.

Seems like a lot of TEs have gone

I think he is maybe the bottom of a long list of WR I'd rather they have, just one opinion, to each their own.
Boutte, Hyatt, Xavier Hutchinson, others, even puka nacua.

How about Byron Young, edge, tennesee, I like him.
#One, ... on the wish list,
at this point, would probably be,
Trenton simpson edge rusher Clemson...
or Jalin Hyatt wr tenn or, K, Boutte wr Lsu, then or then Tank Bigsby the rb auburn,
... Mcintosh . Rb Georgia< how bout them apples.
a lot of good players, but they individually go fast

Edge guys continue to go

More edge

Brian Branch just went to Detroit,
I have a feeling he is a real football player, and they got a good pick.

I thought Hooker would go to Washington, but i guess not

I like branch too

j/c...

Good for Brian Branch for sticking that out and coming back for Day 2 of the draft. Happy for that guy.

How about Gervon Dexter Florida DL, would he fall to 60, but not seventy four?

Keion White goes 46 to New England.

Few left, but the 2nd best behind felix, ...
Trenton simpson edge Clemson would be worth a trade up, at this point imo.

Haha look at that guy

I'd almost bet, Trenton goes in the next five picks... sigh.

Damn wanted Jartavius Martin bad

So did quite a few browns fans

Of course Pitt grabs Benton

Oklahoma edge rusher still on the board, Jalen Redmond,
and Moro Ojomo DL texas. and
O'Cyrus Torrence OL Florida
and Trenton simpson edge Clemson,
Darnell Washington TE Georgia still available,
Cedric Tillman WR tennesee still available ,
Hodges Tomlinson cb.

Jayden Reed Mich st wr to green bay,
cam smith db, to Miami dolphins

22 More Picks

fivetwo, seattle, Zach Charbonnett RB ucla,

Trenton simpson DE Clemson fell to fifty three overall,
and the Browns
would not be unwise to trade up and get him imo.
WOW,

Zach Charbonnett, = not as good a RB as Tank Bigsby Auburn in my opinion. who= still available.

I thought I heard the ghost of REddd Foxxx say,
"trade up, you big dummy"

Chiefs pick up

DT Gervon Dexter Florida goes to the Bears, He gone

More Edge , tuli tuipuloto usc, to the chargers
at fifty four overall. thereby ending my thinking the 2nd round.
3rd would = fifty five, through through eighty one overall.

Steelers are having a good draft

Rashee Rice Wr smu to KC, at fifty five.

Giants take Schmitz

Yeah Steelers got 3 nice studs...at premier positions too

Dallas gets their TE

I want a LB.

which kind.

O Cy, torrence went fifty nine to Buffalo bills
HE GONE

DJ turner corner back, to Cincinnati bengals #60 overall.

The draft vacuums
way too fast, way too little time per each pick.
They need way more time..
they need to END the interviews and focus ONLY on name, team and pick number,
and they need to
announce every pick,
for the first one hundred thirty.

He is a good player. I never thought we would get him as it stands

halfway through what should be round 3, round 4 would be 82 through I08 overall. every twenty seven picks

I hope Berry doesn't take an Old dominion player when real players will be all over the place.

whew

ten pick away from Browns and they end coverage, of picks
disgusting

Hendon Hooker to Detroit

Time to go DL i hope

I love the draft, but so many damn commercials, commercial every 5-6 minutes.

Tank Dell to Houston dangit

wonder what it costs to trade up five picks
to avoid missing an impact player?

I'm not sure who's still left at Dline who won't be a slight reach, I like Young but he's already 25...Andre Carter could be ideal at wide 9 DE, but I really hope Simpson at LB lands to us. Then hopefully Jordan Battle or Jammie Robinson at #98

Watch Berry go out and get Darius Rush at outside corner lol

coming up soon

Conflicted right now, do I want WR Hyatt Tenn or the DT from Northwestern

We didn't trade up at all. I guess we are content with middle of the pack players.

Darnell Washington TE?

2awayy

edge, DL, simpson,
Young in ... Young Gone.

and Ojomo

Any good MLBs left?

I’m gonna guess DL/WR and not LB

Pick somebody, AB. I mean holy Toledo

Giants get in front of us

Byron Young Alabama dl gone

Byron Bryan, Young Tennesee type available,

and, then they end coverage.
Worst draft since Eric mangini ruined the other one.
Worst coverage in years

We’re on the clock

Kendre miller
RB
not a good as Tank Bigsby either.

Jalyn Hyatt to NYG … you wonder if we were gonna grab him

j/c...

Browns taking DT Adetomiwa Adebawore or doing Haslam a solid and taking Jalin Hyatt?

worst broadcast in years


Get Jalen Hyatt,
or Kayshon Boutte if on the clock
or Trenton simpson

Giants jumped ahead of us to take Jalin Hyatt

Cedric Tillman

Giants jumping in front of Browns to take Hyatt.

Hyatt may be a hall of famer, one pick traded up in front of Browns
Phooey analitic fail again

Cedric Tillman WR Tennessee, woot,
way to chase old coffee Andrew Berry, right after the giant pick? way to get a ,,

A good hope, referendum on the abilities of , ahem, already on the Browns

Haslam gets his Volunteer to match the stadium video boards.

Having said that, I'm on board with the pick.

I hate to say it but Swartz's days are numbered ...

notes... good at catch point, no crosses all over the top
all deep, no in traffic.

Well say hello to our like #6 WR on our depth chart...I didn't see a need to grab WR this high, really wanted Simpson, or Dline

What's going on with Darnell Washington?
He was considered a top4 TE and potential 1st round pickby many of the draft gurus

Trade up for DL simpson or Ojomo, Moro Ojomo DL texas

... ... California safety Daniel scott fifth round target,
Keondre Coburn Dl texas .. 330+ pounds fifth round target
KJ Henry Clemson edge, fifth round target, the guy who spies running @uarterbacks

Ya ya a little raw, a little ... hem haw imo, on only partially beats competition, went to the Buccaneers
who have taken 2 defensive players
no O help for Baker, one OL?

His knee was flagged during medicals

Berry is becoming the John Gruden for Wide Recievers.

Achane a RB a close 2nd or neck and neck with Tank Bigsby of Auburn
Achane gone.

Thanks Tru, I hadn't heard about that

The Raven just got the 3rd best edge rusher,
3rd to eigth,

at pick 83, and, this is why you finish in 3rd place in the division ...

Trade up for Moro Ojomo,...

Tank Bigsby reminds me a bit of... Nick Chubb,
he went to the Jaguars,

Ravens and Steelers somehow always grab the players we desire....Ravens nabbed Simpson

According to the ESPN tracker, pick 83 was a CB from Iowa, taken by Denver. Are you thinking of someone else? At pick 86 they took an ILB from Clemson, at least he is listed as an ILB, Trenton Simpson. Fast , but only 235 ibs.

Yeah Trenton simpson the Tiger from Clemson the player I said, one of the players I said the Browns should trade up for, all the way to 34 or thirty five ish overall.

We gotta go defense with our next pick...

DLine is kinda slim pickings...Andre Carter may be an ideal role to split time at wide 9 DE. But he may be there at the top of round 4 as well. Jordan Battle may come in consideration, or even Jammie Robinson in round 4. I do like Coburn at DT, but I expect him to go later. LB was weak this year, and it really recently got picked over.

All 3 division opponents have had really really good drafts so far.
so did Philadelphia
so did the jaguars,,, Houston.
the Browns, ehh, the Titans ehh, the Buccaneers, ehh not @uite, maybe so much.

Most of the LBs with high grades are all smaller guys which we already have in JOK, Fields, and Phillips. I hope we go S next or possibly DE McGuire from Missouri.

Damn...Bengals nabbed Jordan Battle...Going to have a nice young safety tandem with Daxton Hill.

Solid pick

Wow lots of hate over that pick

IMO we are a better team after these 2 picks. We got a WR that would have been picked in the top 50 if he didn't get hurt and a DT that will be very hard to move. He'll be solid against the run. Good job so far AB.!!!!

Few guys I'm hoping we may snag tomorrow:

HB Keaton Mitchell - get it done AB!
DE Thomas Incoom
DT Nesta Jade Silvera
DT Dom Peterson
TE Ben Sims

Would love to add Jammie Robinson or Antonio Johnson at S...Quindell Johnson if we go late.

Sowell and Ivan Pace are interesting LB prospects if either are there at the top of round 5...

Would love RB Izzy at of Pitt...if we wait to round 5, Roshon Johnson or Chase Brown intrigue me. I do like Mitchell more than Deuce Vaughn.



There's still some OT talent if we take that route (with Conlin and Wills injury history, may be wise) Jones, Duncan, Freeland are available...if we go later, I wouldn't mind Ryan Hayes, he's not as good as Runyan (whom I wanted a couple years ago late, and is now a stud for the Packers)

DE..surprised the Northwestern kid is around (I never get his spelling correct) KJ Henry, Horton, Mcguire would interest me... Herbig if we go go late in the draft.

One thing you can bank on: Baltimore having a good draft. Hated that they got Simpson

The Browns draft began with pick number 74 in the third round.

IMO we don't a thing about who we selected. What we think we know today and what we will know a year or three from now will most likely be way different.

At pick number 74 we are not looking at guys who are profiled as first round picks. They are guys who on film might show promise but at the same time have weaknesses.

IMO when you start this late in the draft you look for traits that should fit your scheme regardless of position.

Cedrick Tillman. I am not going to profess I know how good he will be. IMO in the NFL receivers have to be able to make contested catches. The NFL is loaded with corners that were drafted high and can cover. You are not always going to create space. Often when the ball is thrown your way. You have to fight your guy for that ball. Size helps. I like big receivers who can post up guys and high point the ball. Most corners and safeties are around six foot. Being 6' 3" 216 with strong hands helps.

If you didn't trade up with a target player in mind BPA is important. I don't know if he was the BPA. Tillman appears to be a versatile receiver.

Siaki Ika. Last season the heart of the defensive issues faced the Browns faced was gap integrity. Guys who could control designated space. The interior DL got moved away from the play.

Jim Schwartz I am sure in watching the 2022 tape knew changes had to be made. The first guy signed in FA was Tomlinson. This pick is no surprise.
I repeat that I have only seen a small amount of tape on Ika. AB and staff were looking at how this guy fits. What traits does he have that we feel will fit the role we want him to play.

This is a big man. Traits you look for are power, leverage, quickness, and strong hands that can control his blocker.

Ika draft profile from Lance Zierlein:

Slams into first contact with excellent hip explosion and leverage.
Initial punch drives through opponent’s pads.
Good recognition against down blocks.
Will require help to dig him out of gaps.
Power and snap quickness to penetrate and ruin play design.
Adequate initial slide quickness to create viable rush angles.
Shoves and clubs blocker’s wrists and hands to eliminate the punch.
Above-average athleticism for a player his size.

These are traits I believe the staff wanted for the role they envision.

I have no clue if these picks will work out. The staff did their work. The Board played out. These were the choices. I have no grade.

Agreed and a good post. I think both our picks are fine. Whether they will pan out or not remains to be seen as with all picks. What I don't understand here is all the negativity over them. Give these guys a chance. Our picks are bad and our division rivals' picks are good. We can assess all these picks in a year or 2. Now is just conjecture. I'm willing to give our FO the benefit of the doubt at this point. Also, I'm sure Ika will learn a few things from Dalvin Thomlinson who knows something about DL play.

Honestly I don't think there is anything to be positive or negative about.

Looking at the history of just the first round and we find out that many of the first 32 picks fail.

We began with pick 74.

The staff did their best to prepare for this draft. I think starting in the third round all you can do is hope a few guys pan out.

Ringo to philly

Free land to Indy

We’re up

I'm still on the Tyler Scott train!

Clark off the board

Zavala is someone I was really impressed with, I thought he could be someone that could make Wyatt Teller tradeable, given his contract and injury in another year.

I liked him too

Philly is good lol

I think this is a GREAT fit for him.

Oh i do too

Steelers are so good at drafting LBs

Nick Herbig is such a Steelers pick. He'll be a pest for the next decade.

Bears getting Tyler Scott is a steal.

Steelers are dominating the draft IMO

Raiders select the Purdue QB

j/c...

Kwesi Adofo Mensah jumps in front old pal Berry to get their guy.

I think we've done well considering we didn't pick until the 3rd. We drafted some talent with upside that with good coaching has the potential to be starters down the road or at least rotational and depth.

What pick/picks do we have left?

Any names to start looking for as UDFA’s? Maybe Duece Vaughn

Day 1 was a yawner as far as we were concerned and Day 2, I must admit, was uninspiring. We got on a bit of a roll in the 4th round which leaves me believing we have done as well as could be expected. I like the D. Jones and DTR picks....

Kudos, dawg.....

Available players that I like:

In no particular order

Parker Washington wr PSU
Luke Wypler C OSU
Zack Kuntz TE ODU
Ivan Pace Lb Cincinatti
Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson Cb TCU
jaelyn Duncan OT MD
Andre Carter Edge Army
Brandon Joseph S ND
Andrew Voorhees IOL USC
Myles Brooks Cb LaTech

Looks like we have picks 190 and 229 remaining

IMO, not a reach at all. He was my favorite pick in the draft. Could I say Joe Thomas material?

Voorhees would be a good get. Stash for the future...

they're on pick I82 plus so one ninety coming up.

Man, Philly is so loaded. Detroit making some head-scratching moves.

I'd be REALLY good w/ Ivan Pace. An RB to compete wouldn't be a bad idea either, IMO.

The Philadelphia BullDogs

is Ken Mcintosh avail or already gone? edit, rb Georgia.

Ivan Pace Jr is who I want as well.

Maybe bring another Jose Ramirez to town.

We’re up

Hell ya, I was going to post a little bit ago that we should take Luke

Wonder why he lasted until now

I can't lie. I wanted Deuce Vaughn here....but...I can't be mad at this pick...

I kinda wanted a RB too

Still hoping for Keaton Mitchell

j/c...

Available players that I like:

In no particular order


Zack Kuntz TE ODU
Ivan Pace Lb Cincinatti
Andre Carter Edge Army
Brandon Joseph S ND
Andrew Voorhees IOL USC
Myles Brooks Cb LaTech
Zack Evans Rb Miss

OBR guys are saying a name to keep an eye on is Jake Witt --- OT Northern Michigan

OT Jake Witt, Northern Michigan

According to Pro Football Reference, Northern Michigan hasn't produced an NFL draft pick since Mark Maddox was selected in the ninth round of the 1991 draft.

He's also the last Northern Michigan alum to even play in the league. He played his last game in 2000.

Those streaks should come to an end this week thanks to offensive tackle Jake Witt.

Witt has a rare athletic profile. He came to Northern Michigan as a tight end, but he was forced to play tackle because of a rash of injuries on the team. He made the switch at halftime of a game against eventual Division II national champion Ferris State.

"After 10 minutes of coaching Jake to play a whole new position, he allowed zero sacks or pressures against the best defensive line in the country," Northern Michigan interim head coach Dylan Chmura told local news station WLUC.

Witt is now 6'7" and 302 pounds. He posted a relative athletic score of 9.8, the 26th-highest score for an offensive tackle since 1987, per Kent Lee Platte of Pro Football Network.

The testing numbers for Witt include a 4.89-second 40-yard dash, a 1.71-second 10-yard split and a 7.44 three-cone time. Not only does he run well in a straight line, but he has the quickness and agility that often translates to line skills.

Witt isn't even projected to be drafted by NFL Mock Draft database, which would be shocking given his frame, traits and potential.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10073563-the-best-kept-secrets-of-the-2023-nfl-draft

That is really all you can expect in nearly any draft.

The NFL Network broadcast said Dad left the room to not influence the decision. What a cool story.

Ivan Pace is still on the board, no?

That's all folks....

Ugh. I hate inter-division trades. I get it....it's the 7th round and it probably means nothing, but the Haloti Ngata draft day trade still rattles in my brain.

j/c:

That was a pretty important segment with Rich Eisen and St. Jude's. I lived in Memphis for a few years (shocking, the name says it all) and that hospital has such a weird footprint in the sense I think the national brand is far more impactful than how the local community views the hospital. I lived on Mud Island/Harbor Town along the Mississippi and seconds away from the St.Jude Campus, and I feel there was so much opportunity to promote the hospital, locally. Yet, it never seemed like a priority.

Anyways, It was a great segment and a meaningful cause.

Ivan Pace not getting drafted was curious.

Wish we could have gotten him as an UDFA.

steelers got an A+ by PFF. I am very happy with their draft too! This division will be great in 2023.

Mud Island? I recently re-watched 'The Firm' and there is the scene with Tom Cruise taking the monorail to Mud Island and being chased. I noticed the monorail is now closed and awaiting funding for repairs in hopes to re-open.

That's interesting to hear St. Jude's isn't as supported locally. Maybe, locally, it's assumed it will receive plenty of funds nationally? Patients viewed as non-local?

So, nearly half the league got an A. Same thing with PFF last year, when basically nobody got a bad grade. This year only two teams were below a B... Dallas (C+) and San Francisco (C-). Even Detroit got a B+ and they had me scratching my head a few times.

Memphis referenced this earlier. Here is the video and audio of Chris Vaughn calling his son Deuce to tell him the Cowboys drafted him. I hate Dallas, but this is really cool.

This is just an overall take on the Browns draft.

IMO the guy who may prove to be the steal in this draft is Elijah Moore. Technically he is not a draft pick. I consider him our second round pick.

He turned 23 on March 27th so he is the same age as Tillman. His time in NY was a disaster because of the mess that was there.

This guy has talent and desire. He is a complete receiver. He has all the skills. He has pro experience which removes question marks to a degree. There is tape of him against NFL competition. He was targeted. The Browns did their research. They looked at the draft and where they had selections. They must have concluded Moore is better than anybody we could have hoped for.

Tillman is interesting. I have always liked big receivers. Especially when they demonstrate they win contested balls. My opinion is corners are a premium position in the NFL. Teams draft them high and league has many really good corners. You have to have good corners because the passing game rules in the NFL today. Most corners around six feet tall.

Big receivers who can post up corners, and high point the ball have an advantage. If they have strong hands and show they will fight to get that ball.

Throws in the NFL are contested unlike most college games.

The Browns want to become a passing offense and they have made the moves to do that.

Siaki Ika was a Schwartz pick. He is a run stopper.

The rest of the draft are hopefuls. The giant tackle if motivated could be a find.

Overall hopefully a few of the others can contribute.

BIG IMPACT IMO will be Elijah Moore.

Agree on Moore. He’s the only one of our “draft picks” that has the potential to be dynamic.

You're correct, Moore was not a draft pick. Tillman will be the best draft pick.

Lots of competition

Cooper
DPJ
Moore
Tillman
Bell/Woods/Felton
Goodwin

PR/KR
Grant

I think it’s

Cooper
Moore
DPJ
Bell
Tillman
Goodwin


Unless there’s a trade or injury

Woods is on IR. Ruptured Achilles.

Felton should not have a place in the roster. He provides little.

Good call on both.

Cooper
DPJ
Moore
Tillman
Bell
Goodwin

PR/KR
Grant