it's cool to see us on this stage especially for Thomas.

GO BROWNS

Sorry I haven't been around much lately. Too much going on. Good luck tonight!

how about Demarcus Ware?!

umm cade York watch has already started

York already in mid-season form

Please NFL, don't ever do that again. Ugh.

I hope they bring in another kicker during rest of preseason. And James Hudson at left tackle is about the worst scenario. I forgot all about Tillman. I’m hoping he gets more looks

Another blown pick for Berry. York is horrible.
They could have had George Pickens instead of York

Felton looks so slow returning kicks.

Hudson is so bad at Left Tackle. So bad.

I agree. We need to at least bring another kicker in

I think our 3rd team offense/defense looks better than some of our starters in past seasons.

Baldwin not helping his chances

Mond every time the show a close up on his face looks petrified

How do figure? Pickens was a 2nd round pick, York was 4th round.

I get that this doesn’t mean much but illegal formations? They cant even line up correctly. Not a good look.

I don’t think York can handle the pressure he put on himself.

31 got smoked

Defense looks a lot like last year lol

He sure did.

Whoever is playing De suck. They are over running and leaving cutback open

Must be nice to have a kicker

If this game is just FG we in trouble lol

their kicker is much better than ours

I was expecting a little more attacking Schwartz D. It's pretty vanilla but I guess it is the first preseason game

Plus this makes them have to play 4 preseason games now. Literally a throw away.

Goodbye Schwartz. Another blown pick by Berry

Schwartz is just unreal

51 still can’t tackle

Schwartz must have dirt on Stefanski. That's the only way.

I mean why do we expect any different? The team keeps proving to be cursed.

D has actually done OK

Missed field goal, sack, turnover, formation penalties. Sounds very Browns to me. At least it isnt the starters

Given the positions they have been put in, agreed.

Hudson is not a good LT

Kinda amazing that whoever they put on the field doesn’t matter. They still look the same. I pray DW can turn it around.

For his career, Schwartz has done just about everything possible to prove he doesn't belong on the Brown's roster.

Maybe all the over hyped praise for AB will cease
He is a very average GM

Joe Thomas is the best

OK, bring the rookie QB in

Well, I don't know what the powers that be see in Monds .......

Stefanski is going to be on hot seat. Offense still looks lost

Still don’t have a single linebacker on this team even average. Still can’t set edge. Getting blown out by the jets.. ouch

Most of these guys aren't even going to make the team.

Mond sucks

Absolutely right.

Kelly’s having a game.

Kelly looks pretty good though. Nice burst.

Kelly making his case

York almost missed the XP. My goodness

Wouldn’t be a browns game without end of half score

Greg Zuerlein makes 53 yrd field goals look effortless. York barely makes an XP

it must be nice to have a reliable kicker

Mid season form

1st half:

- Mond is SO check down oriented. He's a decent QB3 type, but really struggles to push the ball down the field
- Our defense was actually decent (they were put in some tough spots)
- Tillman is already a favorite of mine. So physical and uses his body well. He's got more upside than DPJ
- Cade York is almost unplayable now. He's got the yips.
- Punting game was really strong
- Schwartz has to go. Dude's cooked.

yeah that goodwill he earned from nailing the game winner the first game last year has faded for me

even his makes are so shaky. I have zero confidence in him right now

ST still sucks

the rookie DT just made a really nice play

Sooo much talking by the announcers

DTR is really quick

I am done pulling for John Kelly.

All he does is ball, but he keeps getting cut. I don't get it.

Good god get off AR nuts and keep it on the game

I think Kelley could stick over Felton this year. But I have been wrong many times

DTR is electric lol

Why even have a game let's just let Aaaron Rodgers talk the whole time. Ugh.

and DTR with a big block to spring a TD .. nice drive

Aaron Rodgers talked way way too much.

and Cade made the XP

Come on guys. It's the 1st pre-season game. Early to boot.

Chill a bit.

Great drive ruined by the Rodgers nut hugging .

even Rodgers said DTR has a nice element to his game

That was a man sized block by DTR.

No way mond makes over dobbs and DTR

Keep Mond on the bench. Let DTR get the reps

agreed. We honestly could see a little of DTR on the field sooner with some trick plays

What we see with DTR is going to show a bit more of what we will do with Watson.

If DTR looks good enough, we might even think about trading Dobbs if anybody asks.

no doubt about it peen (on both accounts)

Way too much talking for a football game

Browns rookies have all shown some stuff here

I took a nap and had the game on record. I caught up to the live portion of the game about 15 minutes ago.... FF through all the stuff I didn't need to see.

I couldn't agree with you more. It's way too much blah blah blah blah blah.

It's the HOF game. They always talk about the inductees, ect. The game is a sideshow.

The Jets playing their 1st round pick right now is something

yep... I watched the first quarter and then turned it off... I love football, but Pre-Season is rough.... HOF game is really rough... would never watch the HOF game if Browns weren't playing...

Zzzzzzzzzzz

Actually, I'm liking the Zach Thomas interview.

Did we get a new ST coach? Doesn't seem like it.

DtR looking great!

That was a really nice throw, and a nice catch, for the TD.

What a hit!

Run D has looked good all game.

You can already see the Schwartz difference.

The Felton returning kicks experiment should end.

Same trash ST.

Think we know how this will end

Lead is in mid season form, I see.

Deeply concerned.

Your team will not be a real contender in the afc, if you never ever throw a pass attempt beyond the first down marker,
or
if you never make a defending free safety backpedal.

They only had ONE attempt in the deep area tonight, and that was when the opponent jumped offsides, so not by design.

... It is not just one pre season game, but , it was an exhibition, of an ongoing, observed to repeat philosophy that
does not ever attempt anything over the top of a defense.

Playoff teams can score @uickly, the Browns do not appear to want to.

x's and o's philosophy problem on offense,

THERE WAs NOTHING NEW, on offense, < that a bigger problem than,

the kickoff new rule = negative on Browns returns about 8 out of nine times
they had holding on a return, like the majority of all returns

again a drive with a missed FG in the opening half.

The whole night the offense appeared to have the ball on a string, about I6 yards long, so every play operated within a couple of yards of the line of scrimmage.

The have to find a way to keep Isaiah Thomas.... full stop.

Positives? There were positives....

but, the coaching, being out coached, in the x's and o's of never going over the top of a defense
EVER RRRRRRRRRRR

how can you be a head coach and not know your kicker can't be counted on, even the first xp just snuck in.

WR's are just decoys??

Jerry Rice would not be in the hall of fame, if he were hamstringed by the Browns Passing philosophy since Kevin Stefanski was hired.

the OTHER TEAM may as well not even carry a free safety for the week,
because they won't be called upon, even once.

It's deeply concerning if you care about the outcome of the win loss column in the near to medium future.

Will they attempt a deep pass in my lifetime?

Kelly, DTR, Tillman and Ika, who did get a third down stop looked good. DTR was probably the most noticeable. Not surprisingly…

Nice catch by for the TD by Watkins.

Of regular players, Fields flashed.

Diabate, #43 looked good.

Only saw the first half. Recorded it so I will watch the second half today.

Dawand Jones. Damn that giant can move. I wish shocked at how well he moves.

This guy maybe a great find.

Only time will tell how great of a find, but I think the guy will at minimum be a useful player.

I will dampen that with a little cautionary thought. Sometimes with guys like that keeping the weight in check can be a problem. We'll see next year after a year of fat paychecks and a full off season.

More money can lead to bigger celebrations. This year he had the combine and draft process to keep him motivated. Next year he won't have that. He will have to self motivate to keep his weight in check. For many people, that is a hard thing to do, especially when you are talking about food and diet.

I guess our scrubs are better than their scrubs... At least last night..

If his weight becomes an issue. He should be cut.

If you are not self motivated. Football will not be a profession.

I was impressed by how easily he stayed in front of his man.

I paid attention to the scheme on both sides. I thought they kept it simple. I really liked the effort I saw.

Coverage on ST was not good. Some players will get an ear full today.

DTR is an impressive player. My son told me to check out his college tape. I did and saw a lot of the way he played last night.

For an early game I liked what I saw.

jc...

Jones' performance...it was pleasant a surprise, imo.

I do have my concerns about his durability though. Jones is putting a load on those knees, ankles and lower back.

When judging OLinemen, I like to see the hips and legs in proportion to the body size and mass to help provide a solid base, to help protect against injury to lower body.

Jones' on field performance will improve as his Body Mass Index improves to a healthier level. He is a diamond in the rough and will take a season or so to reach his full potential. Hopefully

Hopefully OLine coach, Bill Callahan will give Jones some work at LT to see if he has the versatility to play either LT or RT....

it's good to see some good praise/stats about a rookie. He's MASSIVE. I'd have to think his durability isn't ideal, like you said.

Imo, the frame of a guy the sixe of Dawand means you throw 'weight' out of the window.
If he is tall enough that 380 is a healthy weight, then it is, and if that 380 number is actually 4I0, then if he is as healthy and mobile at four hundred ten pounds, as a smaller player is at 320 pounds, then advantage team and good for him.

There is no reason to demand he be as skinny as a WR on his frame,
simply because his frame is nearly seven feet tall and nearly five feet wide,

It's not his problem that he is the largest guy in a game of largess it's his opponents problem that they will have to deal with.
If he is healthy at 420, 424+ whatever,
If he is healthy at 420 or 404 then asking him to continue losing weight if he is three seventy begins to become obscene.

and if he is 368 and you are asking him to drop to 330, or 3I6, and he is healthy and athletic and mobile at 400? then it becomes absurd to demand he be too skinny.

Yeah, but he's not 8' tall.