Kind of an important game here
Scott Petrak ct
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#Browns Deshaun Watson gets pat on back from Kevin Stefanski, Andrew Berry and handshake from Alex Van Pelt.
I'm no body language expert but I'm starting to think he won't play. We'll know officially at 11:30 if not sooner.
He didn't make a throw longer than 10 yards.
Brad Stainbrook
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DTR is starting, per source.
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
Deshaun Watson is not able to play today, source says. The #Browns turn to their backup.
bummed out is an understatement
We win and fans call for DTR to start the rest of season.
With Watson possibly out, it will be on Robinson to have a good game. which I believe he will. Hopefully the Browns can establish a running game to take some pressure off of him. Must gain good yards on 1st and 2nd down and limit the 3rd and longs. Have long, time consuming drives and score TDs when in the Red Zone, not FGs.
Ravens Defense linking their chops. They will blitz often. This could get ugly.
yeah, talk about a nightmare .. this is such an important game and it's such a tough spot for DTR
Kimberley A. Martin
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24hrs ago, the #Browns were pretty confident in Deshaun Watson’s availability … and not so sure about David Njoku’s.
Well, in a surprising turn of events, Watson won’t start… and I’m told that Njoku (facial burns) is good to go
yeah, talk about a nightmare .. this is such an important game and it's such a tough spot for DTR
In some ways. I kind of feel like DTR is uniquely prepared for it for a rookie, though. Spent 5 years with Chip Kelly and has a lot of on the field college experience with the Kelly NFL influence.
Definitely gonna be an increase in speed to get used to, though. At least the Ravens aren't entirely healthy. Plus, the defense can hopefully carry a good chunk of the load.
we are going to need to take the ball away 1-2 times IMO ... we gotta do anything possible to not let DTR backed up
Scott Petrak ct
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#Browns inactives: QB DEeshaun Watson, TE Zaire Mitchell-Paden, CB Kahlef Hailassie, C Luke Wypler, DE Isaiah McGuire, DT Siaki Ika.
Jamison Hensley
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Ravens inactives at Browns:
WR Odell Beckham Jr. (ankle)
WR Rashod Bateman (hamstring)
OT Ronnie Stanley (knee)
CB Marlon Humphrey (foot)
OLB Odafe Oweh (ankle)
FS Marcus Williams (pectoral)
QB Josh Johnson (3rd QB)
Nice little break not having to face Marcus Williams, though Kyle Hamilton and Geno Stone have been duo for them.
yeah their DBacks historically give us fits
This game is 100% lose chance now. Our medical staff sucks. A rookie qb against ravens . We might get a fg. This team is cursed
Outside of the Steelers or Niners, this is certainly the worst team to start against
Yeah going to be tough for DTR, and I'm not sure how good of a rapport he has with our starting trio (Coop, DPJ, Moore) as he was mostly working with strictly backups all camp and preseason, though I think Bell played some with him. I think they are going T off on DTR, especially since our running game isn't much without Chubb.
Something tells me DTR might ball out today. I dunno why.
No chance. With no running game and stefanski liking to throw 50 times a game and never deviating. This could be ugly
I hope whatever that something is that's telling you DTR will ball out today is more accurate than whatever that something is that's telling me it won't turn out that way.
I worry an awful lot about the negative plays
The Ravens D is overrated, maybe?
The Ravens have gone from being a team known for it's defense to a team carried by Lamar. No Humphrey or Williams and Hamilton has been banged up. That secondary seems rather... pedestrian.
We'll see which version of Clowney shows up, though. If it's the one that showed up for us last year, we're golden.
one concern: DTR had some snap issues in the practice sessions of preseason
I'm glad that it's a home game. I'm also worried that it's a home game. The idea of not having to deal with a hostile crowd sounds good. We'll see how that goes.
Really, a rookie to start for the Browns only 4 weeks into the year at @uarterback????????????????
Am I the biggest dupe to believe in anything this organization does over 24 years? don't answer that.
I Mean,
Trainwreck to begin in t minus thirteen or fourteen min, actual time.
I can't believe they will start a rookie against Balt
WERE THEY AWAKE THE LAsT 30 YEARs.
Un, un believeably unbelieveable
Ravens 33 to 6.
probably
Evan Washburn is annoying
Hoping Hopkins has a perfect day, we are going to need him to be perfect today.
Defense is going to have to score atleast twice. I have a bad feeling that side of the ball will be exposed too. Battered fan syndrome I hope but we usually don’t have nice things very long
that's a peaceful commercial
Would love to see an actual return game today as well, would benefit DTR a lot.
No chance. With no running game and stefanski liking to throw 50 times a game and never deviating. This could be ugly
change ugly to a freaking disaster ,
... what did they get in the dobbs trade?
how about the brissett trade? or whatever,
how about when Kace Keenmum was around, no no no
whether it's
JFF
or Brady @uinn,
or Dihone Kizer,
or or take yhour pick, even Baker started within 4 week of his rookie year,
but
hey,
do it against Baltimore,
THIs Is COMIC BOOK sTUPID
only a comic book vilian would be so dumb as to think this formula would work, even after all the times
we've seen it not,
hmmmmm, seems planned to me, by the league or new yor or somebody.
Well I know that they wanted to give J.Dobbs a chance to start for a team but this is the exact reason you should have a experienced backup. And apparently our TE1 gotta learn how to start a fire!!!!
how are there empty seats
good chunk for their first down
Beer line - applying the anesthetic.
dang, almost a bigger loss
Great job keeping Jackson penned up
Let’s pray our running and screen game is the game plan
freaking flag ... gosh DARNIT
how can she call that a hold??
Another flag on Cleveland
Refs are well paid off to begin the game
the yellow
fly before the play even develops
So much for just trying to keep it simple
Wills got abused by Clowney
Bryant needs replaced by anyone. He gives nothing. Never seen him not go directly down
that was a horrendous pass ... why aren't we running
I'm surprised that wasn't a pick.
gotta make those catches darnit
Can’t win with stefanski. Dude refuses to adjust
Our Offensive Tackles have to show up today..they got beat on that series
gotta make those catches darnit
He should have caught it.... I think.
terrible almost pick into triple looked like 4 coverage on dpj forced only read by the @uarterback
next play,
refu to throw it away made another bad read at the end on the edge line for a low perdcent pass almost picked,
and
I lolok at the offensive coach and think , do you realize you have a rookie @b in the game?
I hate our coaches on offense, no game awareness
covering RBs and Andrews is paramount
and now we have a bad injury .. Z ... FUDGE
We do not need anymore injuries.
Crap!!.. We just cannot catch a break
Smith got hurt celebrating...welcome to Cleveland
we never catch breaks.. we always have the worst injuries and the most every year but our garbage S&C team never changes or our medical staff.
I guess that's the negative side of dancing after every play
who was the kicker back in the day tore his ACL celebrating
Can't get out of their own way,
he's down from celebrating, ...
in a 0 to 0 score game.
who was the kicker back in the day tore his ACL celebrating
Martin Gramatica
Wright doesn't know where to line up,
We need a good punt returner.
DNP does nothing in the return game....he needs replaced.. maybe goodwin
Njoku did well on Clowney
those decisions can't happen
have i mentioned I hate stefanski's playcalling
Rookie doing rookie things
Why don't DPJ just take a knee man
seven opportunity to fumble on that punt return held the ball wayyyy far from his body.
DTR = turnover waitint to happen
let's keep it simple please ... it was 2nd and 3
he is forcing the ball every play
why didn't we just touch him down
all kevin fault, all kevin fault trying to have a rookie throw too much.
way too dumb by the O coaching.
there goes all any momentum the defense got us.. 3 points will be all they need. I HATE STEFANSKI... only idiot coach in nfl that wouldn't try to protect their rookie QB by simplifying
DTR is a rookie... these are things that Rookies do
and thats the season.. in browns fashion that will make us revert to what we normally are.
ballgame ,
see you next week. correction in 2 weeks
We got stefanski'd and at home.
I can't be believe we went with a rookie as the backup...
So how many yards we going to lose on our next return lol
Lots of drama divas on the game thread today…
Every game is, can the Browns offense outscore the Browns offense.
If they don’t address the Stefanski issue, we’re wasting our time here. Can’t believe Haslam is willing to spend so much and let this clown drive it into the dirt.
DTR is a rookie... these are things that Rookies do
Not if you make em hand it off and run the ball
why = he throwing 40 yards deep 4 out of five times???
is it a 4th @uarter 2 min drive??? hades no, all coaches fault one hundred percent
No point in watching now!
DTR is a rookie... these are things that Rookies do
Not if you make em hand it off and run the ball
why = he throwing 40 yards deep 4 out of five times???
is it a 4th @uarter 2 min drive??? hades no, all coaches fault one hundred percent
Tell Stefanski to NOT have his rookie throwing 40 times a game!!...
DTR could have 4 picks right now
we had 2nd and 3 at midfield and didn't run
Running game is working. If you get 2nd and 3, keep running
The goal here should be to take the pressure OFF your rookie QB.
Me and Xanax are determined not to get upset today with all the crap news and stupid injuries.
If they don’t address the Stefanski issue, we’re wasting our time here. Can’t believe Haslam is willing to spend so much and let this clown drive it into the dirt.
This pretty much is the whole thing here.. how much longer are we going to let HC run this team into the ground when everyone sees the issues. Woods was the issue, early returns say replacing him was right call.
Good catch by moore finally
OMG, this is just stupid... regardless of the penatly, A STUPID CALL
we get a freaking circus on 3rd and 1
There are no words to describe Stinkfanski's play calling.
Wow look how smart our dumb coach is
autrocious playcall ended in a def. penalty. gain of 36
WHAT IN THEE WORLD ARE WE DOING
Yeah alot of people were thinking Moore would be the deebo Samuels of our O...I laughed and said his ceiling is Curtis Samuel
Just when you think Stinkfanski can't come up with a stupider play call.
They sure like that play. lol
Got bailed out but WTF is that on 3rd and a foot? Follow it with that. Line up and run the ball right at them until they prove they can stop it.
jsut lost about 40 yards out of the red zone because of the dumb call and worse execution....moore has been a BUST
Look at your Boy Stefanski ... Calling some dumb stuff with a rookie
just yank DTR.. he needs to go.,. put anyone else in.. he's a walking turnover
Omg DTR you’re proving me wrong in all the worst ways
Busch league flip out of bounds
3rd and 31, and you barely pick up 4 yards...wonderful
Omg DTR you’re proving me wrong in all the worst ways
Me too.
Hopkins is going to be all of our offense today
Thank goodness for Hopkins. Won't be a shutout at least.
had a chance to get the 7. great job stefanski. first you go with a rookie that was two games above 500 in college and keep letting him hurt the team.. Should have kept dobbs
This drive is on Moore’s boneheaded play.
Glad we at least got 3
Not College or Pre-season is it Stinkfanski?
Someone needs to calm DTR down and CALM Stefanski down
Is it possible that Stefanski's kid is calling plays using Madden as a model?
This drive is on Moore’s boneheaded play.
Glad we at least got 3
play shouldn't have been called, but yeah I seriously question our talent evaluation when it comes to receivers..
Nightmare,
Cornerback Ward, would =
a better @uarterback option to finish this game, b/c the current dude,
has the decision making with the ball in his hands that = untenable.
for the remainder of today.
that play worked once in preseason, but stefanski keeps trying to go back to it and it never works
I much rather have walker than DTR
This drive is on Moore’s boneheaded play.
Glad we at least got 3
This is on coach. He has a rookie in there and he’s calling deep balls and reverses. All the while averaging 7 yards a carry.
This guy is out of control.
We have more yards than the Ravens.
going to have to have a few pick 6 to even have a chance
This is analytics
todays game and last weeks
Man Kenny Pickett 0/2 interception and already down 10 to 0 to the Texans
It's very clear that the only actual football coach on the Browns is Jim Schwartz. That D unit is balling despite the idiocy of Stinkfanski.
IF we would play some running football!!...We might have a chance
Omg. Just stupid playcalling. Run the ball idiot
DTR is a freaking circus ... get this guy out of there
you will NEVER win a game with him
He needs to pull something so walker can get in
DTR can move the ball, but he’s playing like he was never coached up at all. He takes most of that blame, but damn the O coaching is suspect.
DTR is a freaking circus ... get this guy out of there
He's making way too many risky passes and lost his composure.
How many ways could that play have gone worse than a handoff, when you have
a first game nfl @uarterback
of course you don't throw it a hundred times when you have the best D IN THE CENTURY
We Cannot waste performances from the defense!
Walker can't be worse honestly
You do not want Walker in, he is trash and I washed him for the Panthers and Bears
Yet again, Ravens finish the qtr with 0 first downs, 27 yards.... but 7 points.
Walker is bad trust me, he's very fringe
Wills gets freaking OWNED
Hunt is better than ford. Ford isn’t a feature back.
our offense is really, really bad right now
this is gonna be a long day for the offense
Our defense is going to get tired
DTR looks bad even on a play that didn't go bad,
WHY THROW sO MUCH, I hate the off. coaching
realize you have a game one @uarterback.
Why is Ford still in the game?
no self awareness by the offense
can they analyze that one ^
DTR has already thrown 11 times... That is way too much for a rookie in his first game... Stefanski has no idea how to control a game... And to all the smart folks calling for the backup who was just on the practice squad... BE QUIET
I feel bad for the defense
okay you gotta cover Andrews
Baltimore O getting some traction here
Imagine what a really good OC and HC would bring the talent on the Browns. We saw what happened with the D.
Ward is a walking penalty
Pocic going into the locker room ... us giving them 1st downs
Pocic heading to locker room. Now a back up center going to a backup QB. It's about to get Benny Hill funny out there.
this is gonna be a long day for the offense
Don't worry, they won't be on the field much.
especially if they don't run any clock when they throw incomplete or worse every time.
E Pocic center, going into the locker room walking.
Stupid idiots tackling forward. They had him wrapped
we could really use a turnover
from my mind to god's ear
Fumble rooski, Fumbalaya - Browns ball.
Damn.. The D is trying to HOLD UP... but the offense is just killing us.. can we please play some ball control offense
Mo Hurst with the fumble recovery.
...
Now,
if they'd only leave the D on the field and let them run a few plays of offense
Epic fail on the O side of the ball so far
begin a new drive.
if we woulda just run it on 2nd and 3
Oh look another dumb playcall and worse throw
why are we throwing it like the 2000 rams
Yeah - hurry up for that 1/2 yard...ugh
at some point we need DTR to just make a random big play with his legs
All these empty sets . Just a fireable offense.
I’m convinced this team will fire stefanski after it’s too late and we’ve cycled all out talent out. Then we will be back to having a new coach during a rebuilding phase. Haslam needs to fire stefanski this week or just sell the team
Why'd did the O coaches give up on the running plays
They've thrown about two times too often on an Offensive per snap basis.
Hard to be "it" with Stinkfanski's game plan. He's a rookie being a rookie against the 2nd D in the NFL. Coach is giving him ZERO help.
We have 11 rushes vs 15 passes so far... THAT IS ON STEFANSKI
I agree .. he's getting no help from Kevin here .... I mean its' 2nd and 5 or 2nd and 3 and we are going empty
Running games and screens should be 90% of our game right now. Instead we are going empty backfield with a 5th round rookie
dang we needed to stop them there
a ... comercialing TE sweep,
eleven times in a row, would be a BETTER OFFENse than this
dangerous throwing too often with a bad decision maker at @uarterback offense
Crazy a coach using defenses aggressiveness against them . Wish we knew how
Yep, they figured out our defense. See if e adjust
Hard to be "it" with Stinkfanski's game plan. He's a rookie being a rookie against the 2nd D in the NFL. Coach is giving him ZERO help.
Too Tall ..You cannot be logical with some stupid fans!!..
I think the D is getting a bit gassed. Too many 3&Outs
Balt knows how to not dumb play call,,, :headbang:
It seems like Baltimore is running!!!
Man they are putting a clinic on how to beat our defense
we will Never score 14 points lol
Yeah defense has been exposed. Delayed runs , counters. Using out aggressiveness to their advantage. Defense looks like last year now. But now the blueprint is there.
Ravens slowing down their execution - letting Browns be aggressive, then going where player's aren't. Smart adjustment by their OC. Wish we had someone like that.
Garrett offsides for good measure
Yeah defense is back to being trash. May as well be 100-3
Overrated defense and a VASTLY overrated backup QB.. the Browns are being exposed in this one. This team is just not that good.
big mistake to sit Watson... we aren't even close to staying in this game
14-3 is done.
No chance fellas.
That drive looked like every drive last year by our defense
So far without Watson and Chubb we looked screwed on O.
All we can hope for is to lose every game by 3-4 scores until haslam has to fire stefanski
Good defense lasted 3 games. Well it was fun to think we had one for a little while
The D has played Most of the 1st half because their Head Coach doesnt understand how to control the game... How about running and play action off of that??? How about some check downs to the back... naw.. lets let the Rookie throw more than we run
Can’t beat Pits. Can’t beat rats.
Why do we get our hopes up ever. So sick of this…
Harbaugh looks like the one with a rookie QB, straight forward runs and short high % passes.
Ravens slowing down their execution - letting Browns be aggressive, then going where player's aren't. Smart adjustment by their OC. Wish we had someone like that.
this,
I mean, do they have tape of the last 30 years
do they know that it is the Baltimore D on the other side of the ball they aren't playing the nineteen seventy nine buccaneers
play the run, and play D, and the Browns woud have the lead right now,
don't throw the ball so often with a rookie first day @uarterback.
2nd and 4, time to throw it deep.
brown offense rivals our worst offenses since99
We are so soft on offense.
DTR can't throw - Ravens stack the box. Long long long day.
Please fire stefanski. This can’t be visible to just the fans.
Watson on the sideline ain't any better than Baker today...
I'm not happy today,
What did they do on the first play of that drive? a pass to the dump off,
NO need to do that
Buffalo looks very good today
this feels like so many Sundays we've had since 1999 ... back to the toilet
Roquan Smith didn't need much of a crystal ball, did he? Wondering now if even the Browns wives are sneaking out of the stadium? Be the only way the Browns won't get beat in front of them...
Getting gashed by Gus Edwards. Only team to say that
Team is playing deflated… D is down. O can’t get right. Maybe the good to come out of this game will be coaching up DTR. Watson is soft, so DTR will see more action this year.
DTR looks defeated, sitting on the sideline.
Defense is fugazzi.
Offense is a joke.
Browns is Browns.
Our defense looks very pathetic
goodness is steelers are sucking
That is the Browns offenses fault
A HUNDRED PERCENT
how many offsides can Garrett get
Oh look our trash linebackers can’t tackle in open field
Our defense looks very pathetic
I BLAME DEPO, grad depodesta strategized this team.
its because we are throwing it on 2nd/3rd and medium
Should have been a false start on that - looked like RT moved.
Like I said, our linebackers are def our weak point
Finally Garrett realized he’s getting pushed outside every play
this game was over the second Watson was told to sit
haha you can't make it up
We don’t have enough speed on this team. Period
Somehow Emerson is always on their number 1 and our 100m cb roams around and gets PI calls
Stop tackling forward you scrubs
Looks like they came into our house and beat the crap out of us in front of their wives and children.
Way to respond, Stains.
J/C
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I almost bought in and purchased tickets to this game. Man, AM I GLAD THAT I DIDNT.! I feel bad for the people who spend their money on this perpetual crap!
Play clock at 1 sec...Browns call TO...can't make this stuff up.
We are who we thought we were. 4-13
I should have just recorded this and went to the beach one last time today.
Play clock at 1 sec...Browns call TO...can't make this stuff up.
stefaski special
this is an unacceptable performance
we are owned by Pitt and Balt
the linebacker don't suck ... leadtheway,....
the O does, by not playing fundamental football they have you eventually blame the defense
b/c it was you O,
that played like a circus pile, when the score was 0 to 0.
100m for ward. Just horrible money spent. And that’s game . Just in time for a losing streak. I hate this team. Done for today. Seen this movie before 35-3 minimum
Great pickup thornhill was. Making a business decision instead of going after the ball
Game. Signing off - going to go do something fun on this 85 degree day down here in Dayton.
May not even come back this season. Stinkfanski is not the coaching answer and it's just sickening that nothing the Browns do ever seems to indicate "getting up" for a Division game.
Later peeps!
230 million dollars and Watson didn't even put a helmet on
today
AGAIN
the linebacker don't suck ... leadtheway,....
the O does, by not playing fundamental football they have you eventually blame the defense
b/c it was you O,
that played like a circus pile, when the score was 0 to 0.
Yes they do. They are slow, can’t tackle in space and miss their gaps
DTR, Stefanki, our OL, and our defense get Fs
Horrible game so far. Sadness.
I'm sure Kevin will have a good excuse at the presser!!.. No one asks him the hard questions.. like having your rookie pass like he is a starter.. or about adjusting your game plan due to having a rookie start. NOPE.. just some B.S coming out his mouth
No chance. With no running game and stefanski liking to throw 50 times a game and never deviating. This could be ugly
Yep.
throwing that many times is just a horrible approach
I don't post in here during ...just some observations.
The D looks gassed.
DTR looks like what I expected. Not all that good.
I don't normally complain about playcalling, but we seem to have had a rookie QB throwing the ball alot. Now, if we don't score out of the half, we will have to.
Oh, I don't want to hear people say that L Jackson can't throw. He throws just fine.
we are owned by Pitt and Balt
Kevin was four and nine against them going into this game or this year,
either way
they lost at pitt and ... today looks uncacceptable , Where is a real offensive coach to call plays?
Anyone who would know you don't throw so many times with a rookie @b, and against Baltimore.
Cincy is getting throttled
I can’t wait for the dreary post game presser with Stefanski droning on about how they will watch the tape ffs
Ask Taylor Swift if
Kevin Stefanski can
ever ever ever, win this division as a play caller on offense.
Hanging onto the ball too long.
need to use the bye next week to find a new playcaller on offense.. its that time
As predicted, we are behind so Stefanski has completely abandoned the run.
There are no words to describe Stinkfanski's play calling.
Oh yes there is: HE SUCKS!
Injuries mounting up. Always seems to happen when we are getting beat down.
Buffalo might beat us by 100 today lol
How many times is this ownership going to be ok with Stefanski saying after the game “we need to do better. We need to put these guys in a better position to win.”
That is your JOB. And you screw it up weekly. Haslam is either nuts or doesn’t give a crap.
Parade of Disaster today folks.
like I said, this season should be about sacrifice... Lose by atleast 3 scores every game until the crooked owners have to make the decision and fire stefanski and maybe even berry, who hasn't been that great either. but Stefanski for sure. It will suck but atleast we will be able to start with another coach while we still have some talent to work with
So those say DTR is ready?
Ravens slowing down their execution - letting Browns be aggressive, then going where player's aren't. Smart adjustment by their OC. Wish we had someone like that.
Well the Browns don't. They have Kevin Stefanski, the smartest guy in the room. He doesn't have to adjust. His plans always work. Just ask him.
DTR isn't ready to do anything lol
Stefanski has done nothing to protect DTR from the first snap. It's like he had a plan for Watson, found out Watson couldn't go, and changed nothing.
FIVE IN A ROW, ALL PAssEs IN THE ROOKIE @B HANDs
EVERY 2ND HALF sNAP
D T R = DO NOT PLAY, and guess peter cottontail or whomever they want to pretend the 3rd @b is,
none of them would be as good as a position player playing the wildecat.
Thanos getting abused today. He does have issues with speed rushers
So those say DTR is ready?
as soon as other teams call up the car wash attendant and grocery store workers he played against in preseason to start for them
big mistake to sit Watson... we aren't even close to staying in this game
If he didn't have the price tag, he'd be out there. There wasn't any problem running a damaged Baker out there WEEK AFTER WEEK. Dumbasses.
They can’t fire Ski fast enough for me. This team looks horrible today. Inexcusably horrible IMO.
We used to run screen passes with a lot of success.
the whole offense has been abused today because their coach has ZERO clue how to adjust.. I think he's still working off of Kubiaks playsheet. If its not on there he don't know what to call or change
We used to run screen passes with a lot of success.
I said earlier, our whole offense should be running and screens.. period.
So happy to have two weeks to stew on this one.
The nat’l media will have us in the basement by the end of this week. And that’s where we belong.
Maybe you don’t fall in love with a rookie QB and give away a competent backup who is now a starter.
yeah our team will be trashed for 2 weeks and then have to play SF
and garrett down... perfect season
Lack of self awareness on offense
not ok
what a stupid playcall...I really think stefanski wants to be fired
2nd half, drop back one hundred percent
no handoffs
8 out of 8 snap
need to call denver for Bolles
Stefanski has done nothing to protect DTR from the first snap. It's like he had a plan for Watson, found out Watson couldn't go, and changed nothing.
Which is EXACTLY why he has to go. He has ZERO feel for game day. Simply cannot adjust to what is being done to his offense by any competent DC with a decent roster. This guy is NOT the answer. Not as a HC. Not as an OC. He simply must go. The sooner the better. #timeforschwartz
A lot of his passes seem too risky.
throw throw throw, meanwhile Bal just sits back on the routes and waits
Elijah moore and Goodwin are all hype
man ford ain't the guy... dude has no drive
Elijah moore and Goodwin are all hype
thats why i was pissed Goodwin got the spot over Watkins
Every play is just park DTR in the pocket to read the whole field. He ain't ready for that bro. No creativity at all.
outside runs don't work when their linebackers are that fast...
how can a coach in the nfl be as obtuse as stefanski still be employed..
Freaking embarrassing joke of an organization.
We are the problem people. We are the problem.
i'd take Pat shurmer over stefasnki, hell I'd take freddie
They blitz just about every 2nd down. Stefanski is too stupid to call a screen pass.
keep buying tickets and merchandise and showing up on sundays.. that will really show the owners
This is just terrible.. You just got a rookie throwing on all downs and there are No screens, no draw plays, no swing passes to the back.. NOTHING!!... Stefanski is proving he is a terrible play caller... too stubborn to adjust his play calling...
thank god the cavs start soon
its the worst game I've watched in a long time .. and that's saying a lot
Not even Prepared with first place in the Div on the line.
Kevin will never win the afc north as constructed, not even if they spend
230 'billion'
Elijah moore and Goodwin are all hype
Have Tillman and Goodwin been targeted any this season?
there's little question we belong in the basement
We do have a head coach in the building. The owners just can’t admit another ridiculous joke of a hire.
It would be an easy fix - the wave of a hand. But it’ll never happen. Avp takes over the plays and Schwartz HC/DC.
A real owner wouldn’t think twice. This is indefensible.
At least this will stop the ridiculous over hype that was surrounding DTR holy crap he is not ready for this level of football. He SUCKS.
Looks like Schwartz made some adjustments that are working, if only...... oh, nevermind.
Why watch the end, if they won't change the @uarterback if they won't change the head coach, the offensive coach.
have a nice day,
may turn this
. . dirt
off.
best thing that could happen is a Wills injury
like i said.. ford ain't that guy.. need to stop. Let hunt try for a bit and get in a rhythm
Yeah.
DTR is no where near what the hype suggested. We should have known better. But we fall for this BS every time.
Dobbs should have been the backup.
I don't think any team that visions themselves contenders go with a 5th round rookie to back up the QB position
sure backed up in endzone.. lets throw again
DTR might be top 5 worst QB's we've ever drafted
This game was toast by halftime, unfortunately.
Dobbs should have been the backup.
Neither dobbs or DTR are worth anything.
Berry absolutely blew that one.
I think Berry is better than all you guys, but he blew the Back-up QB position.
this rivals the 1999 days
Dobbs should have been the backup.
Neither dobbs or DTR are worth anything.
Berry absolutely blew that one.
I think Berry is better than all you guys, but he blew the Back-up QB position.
Berry has blown alot of things, but he gets a pass for some reason.
Pittsburgh is teetering to lose
I said before the game started, the preseason is not the regular season. DTR is not ready and Stefanski's horrible play calling. He has done NOTHING to help him out at all.
At least we have our bye week this coming week, it should give Watson another week to hopefully heal up.
Stefanski should not be let of this hook.
Shame on the softball media if they let him.
Bottom line is if Haslam allows this without a change, we care more than he does. And that’s NEVER gonna produce a winner.
problem is we play SF after, who will destroy us
I said before the game started, the preseason is not the regular season. DTR is not ready and Stefanski's horrible play calling. He has done NOTHING to help him out at all.
Absolutely NOTHING!!.. DTR has almost passed 30 times.. There is no way you do that to a rookie..
Buffalo is just destroying Miami
Man, we just getting beat up!!.. They are beating the crap out of us
This game really was over by halftime. Maybe even sooner?
Lack of awareness that , fg kicker york was no good
lack of awareness that both of your @uarterbacks get sacked too much
and won't take a sack when it's inevitable, which = turnovers, injuries
and injuries to your O linemen
lack of awareness of that ^
lack of awareness that a first game ever @uarterback against a balt. D might be better off not throwing the ball on
seventy five percent of all plays
Lack of awareness that your fg kicker couldn't kick,
IT TOOK THEM 2+ YEARs TO FIGURE OUT THE KICKs WERE NOT GOING THROUGH THE UPRIGHTs
that is who ^ is in charge of your organization.
The City of Cleveland, deserves better.
it was over when Watson was told not to play
Does Goodwin and Tillman still play for the Browns?
it was over when Watson was told not to play
Little did we know....
At least he suited up.
Watson looked great wearing that 230 million dollar Knit cap ...
We got beat handily on Offense, Defense and Special Teams.
Real nice stop - JOK, I think.
At least he suited up.
Watson looked great wearing that 230 million dollar Knit cap ...
So if I understand, you are saying that Watson was fine to play today, and just chose not to?
If anything, sitting Watson makes way more sense now. What we learned today is we have absolutely no one behind him @ QB. We lose him and they may as well not play the games.
Browns is Browns.
He's not playing against Baltimore, Pittsburgh, the league offices in NY, whatever kind of mavioso,
take away that play and you'd probably have 40+ running on the day,
I dunno
I turned it off for I0 min. in the 3rd.
Regardless, The people who purchase tickets for this team (me not being one anymore) didn’t give this organization thousands upon thousands of dollars to put this crap on the field at this stage of a rebuild. This was an inner division home game and we looked like a JV team.
The worst part is, had Deshawn played, there is no guarantee that we would have looked any better. Bye week, then we get stomped by the 9ers. At that point, might as well call this version of the Browns another failure and start to rebuild yet again. At this point, only a fool would think that this team has any chance of getting past 8 wins.
Regardless, The people who purchase tickets for this team (me not being one anymore) didn’t give this organization thousands upon thousands of dollars to put this crap on the field at this stage of a rebuild. This was an inner division home game and we looked like a JV team.
The worst part is, had Deshawn played, there is no guarantee that we would have looked any better. Bye week, then we get stomped by the 9ers. At that point, might as well call this version of the Browns another failure and start to rebuild yet again. At this point, only a fool would think that this team has any chance of getting past 8 wins.
And ya better be cool with deshawn as your qb. Because you literally can not have a different one for 4 more years.