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Inactives will be out soon

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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#Browns QB Deshaun Watson is, in fact, active for the first time in a month after dealing with bruising around his rotator cuff.

Scott Petrak ct
@ScottPetrak
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#Browns RB Kareem Hunt warming up, looks good to go. Was listed as questionable with thigh injury

Andrew Siciliano
@AndrewSiciliano
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Deshaun Watson and Kareem Hunt are ACTIVE.

PJ Walker is active.
DTR is inactive.

Browns dress 2 quarterbacks.

Good news on both. We need to win this game to keep the momentum going after last week. The Colts won't be easy.

At some point I'd like to see Tillman with our top group

Jack Duffin
@JackDuffin
We have a change in makeup for the #Browns active gameday 48

For the first 5 games of the season it has been:
2 QB
3 RB
6 WR
3 TE
8 OL
8 DL
6 LB
5 CB
4 S
3 ST

Today we see a return to 2022 setup with 4 RBs and 5 WRs

lots of browns fans in attendance

late money on Indy big time ... line has shifted the last 10 mins

our ball to start

gosh I hate their uniforms

OMG what a freaking awful pass

what the heck was that

man oh man

Stick with the run until he gets comfortable being out there

FORDDDDDD

what a freaking nice start

That was an awesome cut and run by Ford

Inside zone!!

great blocking

7-0

first pass into the dirt.

3rd play of the game, Ford for 68 yards +one, for a touchdown.

Ok defense, do your thing

cmon D

nothing big here

Right up the gut and untouched for 6 yards.. ugh

good patience Myles

danger coulda had him

Pathetic

newsmen missed it

Linebacker is going to be an issue

3rd and 7

Baltimore just ran right down Detroit's throat

I've never a colts colored uniform like that, it's all over blue, but a different shade, like,
chevy blazer blue, like a uhh
like kc royals blue,
and there helmuts are all black with a blue logo

white number and stripes but all blue top and pant.

myles costs us BIG time

Garbage. Thanks Myles . Way to be a leader. Top defense my ass

Good grief. Offsides, quit on the play waiting for a whistle. WTH happened to this so-called smart D?

we freaking had them ... and now its tied

another flagfest?

number 22 got beat on the pass defense

That will the difference . Garrett is defense version of wills with penalties

Last years defense

myles just hurt us badly

This is why no one truly believes the browns defense isn’t just pretending. They need to be able to bring it every game.

Well - there's the sloppy D part of any Browns game; hoping the come back next series and get mean. Way to pay the O back for an early Lead...SMH

Here will come the 3 and out

The Defense forgot the #1 rule "Play until the whistle blows"!! I'm sure Shwartz will correct that.

Someone will have to gather information on the premiere edge rushers vs the amount of penalties called upon them. I'm curious to how high Myles is on the list.

Can’t do that kind of stuff on the road

well this is gonna be one of those weird days

I don't trust Watson in a shootout

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Someone will have to gather information on the premiere edge rushers vs the amount of penalties called upon them. I'm curious to how high Myles is on the list.

I would bet he would be far in lead. His one move is speed, so he tries to maximize it

I'm glad Hunt is playing. I hope the thigh does not hinder him

my goodness

Watson loos back to square one

Trash. This game feels like a deflating loss

When Myles jumps and it's obvious, he needs to keep going to get the play blown dead, not stop, back up, and just stand there.

Jesus

ugh - pick

Watson stinks man

Poicic idiot. This is loss

Well looks like DTR is out there today.

We are going to get absolutely stomped

Well that was not the smartest throw I have seen!

oh it's going to be one of those typical Stefanski games...win a big game, then lose one that should be in the bag

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

we freaking had them ... and now its tied

they are at home.

Wow, not only can Watson not compet in the afc north, his old
stomping grounds of the afc south,

What'd I tell ya, ... guaranteed, freaking....

We've been Browns fans for 40 years, we all knew, you knew, everybody knew it'd go like this

It got ugly too fast to say this could get ugly fast.

lol that QB play in 2 drives is atrocious

Just yank Watson. If you need a qb to throw picks walker is already active

We absolutely need to make a trade for a qb before deadline. If we could swing cousins somehow it could save our season

Garrett constantly jumping offside the last two games. Watson blows again it appears.

Dline getting blown off the ball.

Why did Andrew Berry give up 3 1st RD picks for Watson ...hilarious

and our run d is playing soft

Watson is such a head case

good stop that we needed

Nice job d

Good job D!

Good Play D.. way to get that 3 and out

and we're pinned back at the 2 ... this won't end well

Nice stand by the D to not allow the O to give up easy points on us....AGAIN.

Dude is a trash returner. If you’re going to let it go then block the gunner

Stack the box time - 3&Out Predicted

Watsoon is going to hurt us this drive.

""#@#$# Wally

He ain't thrown right once yet today.

Horrible special teams, we never get good field returns

I don't trust our pass offense ONE bit

Can we trade for Brissett?

omg that is so bad

Poicic is weak ass

they are just FLYING in the box

Typical stefanski team.. weak

Sweet 3-4 yard play.

Colts are ten times ready to play than us

Baltimore is KILLING Detroit

Way to play for the punt you scrubs against one of the worst defenses in the nfl

4th and 11. Throw a seven yard pass in the dirt. Is there any possible way we can get rid of this guy?

Watson is absolutely awful. Yeah - I know it's been several weeks due to some injury, but the fundamental skills required for an NFL QB are not on display, and have been consistent with him since last year. Can't lead a receiver, misses in the dirt more than anyone in the league and can't read a defense. AWFUL.

Matriculating the ball out to the punt area, picking up seven yards per drive.

Don't do anything stupid offense apart from the 3 things you already did.

Let's go D!

It's time to get rid of Watson.

Not even getting close to Minshew

wheel routing th CRAP out of us

Just garbage defense.

flag

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

wheel routing th CRAP out of us

I would too, exposes our horrible linebackers

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

It's time to get rid of Watson.

We are literally not able to get rid of Watson.

I have not seen any of our QBs nail a pass like that

we are in the freaking tank

Minshew outgaining your entire offense by about 60 yards
except for one play.

Yeah this game is over. Defense was a dream and the reality is they are middle of road and the offense with Watson is bottom of the league

their OL is up for the task

The fact that they are always tackled forward shows that our backers suck. That means that aren’t meeting the ball carrier

Jesus...

for anyone who said I was dumb for not expecting more ... this is why

OMG... that was horrible!!! The D is just giving it up

Just Mike Vicked us

wow, did our "elite" D just let Gardner freaking mishew run in for a 20 yard TD????

Making Gardner Minshew look like Lamar Jackson.

this is an embarrassing display

Let's face it. Cleveland does not have a professional football team. So much for a #1 Defense.

Can the Browns D show up today...
well, only down seven.

Can the Offense show up today.

That’s just embarrassing. Our defense is the same trash as last year. Stop believing the hype from talking heads. You ain’t played anyone and you got lucky one week.

Not good at all.

14 to 7, Indy on top.

Later boys.

I’d say maybe next year but we are in the clown car for at least 5 years.

The defense spent the whole week sniffing their own farts instead of practicing. Watson SUCKS. This team is a disaster.

I still maintain we have the worst linebackers in the league

What's the nick name the defense wants to be called? "Best in the world"? Lol

Did they realize there was a game today?

Watson is just another player that’s got worse since he’s been “coached” by stefanski

Originally Posted by redddog

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

It's time to get rid of Watson.

We are literally not able to get rid of Watson.

Release him I don't care.

Originally Posted by TooTall

Let's face it. Cleveland does not have a professional football team. So much for a #1 Defense.

They are only down seven, there are 3 @uarters of the game remaining.

The defense has been listening to all the idiots in front of that cameras. They hey are we the only team that has 1 good week and we stop trying?

Meanwhile...#4 sitting on $230m guaranteed. Why would he have any self-respect or drive to be an actual QB.

Originally Posted by THROW LONG

Originally Posted by TooTall

Let's face it. Cleveland does not have a professional football team. So much for a #1 Defense.

They are only down seven, there are 3 @uarters of the game remaining.

for Watson/stefanski it may as well be 70

Here we go Wally,
here we go

it appears like the defense has listened too much to the press

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Originally Posted by redddog

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

It's time to get rid of Watson.

We are literally not able to get rid of Watson.

Release him I don't care.

He counts as something like 150 million against the cap if we release him. That’s an entire payroll. Unless they can get the rest of the team to play for free.

Watson is trash

why is Harris in?

did you hear the colts saying "BEST IN THE LEAGUE HUH?"

Big time down coming up

This is the problem with ford. He has too many plays like that

Originally Posted by THROW LONG

Originally Posted by TooTall

Let's face it. Cleveland does not have a professional football team. So much for a #1 Defense.

They are only down seven, there are 3 @uarters of the game remaining.

It's not the points, it's "identity," energy and desire to be better.

OMG

That's enough, Watson has to come out. WTF was that?

Yeah he done for the year

talk about a downright disaster

Oh man no!

that will be the last pass he ever throws for us

SCREW THIS BUM!

Parade of Disaster today.

Time to trade for a qb

Lol overrated sexual predator bum just like I said when we gave up the bank for him

INt number Two, and Watson down,

one for five on the day, 2 interceptions, play of an int under review,
oh , it looks like it hit the ground.

If they score any points here it’s over

I don't know if that was an interception or not.

OMG.. Now Watson has a concussion and throwing pics... its good that he comes out.

Thank god it was overturned

That was a gift.

this QB is truly unacceptable ...

Freak'n announcers - giving Stinkfanski excuse after excuse after excuse. He's a crap coach; does just enough to look promising and stay off the Hot Seat Radar.

Our return coverage is just bad. Bubba needs to be one and done

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

that will be the last pass he ever throws for us

I can only hope so

They need to bench that bum the rest of the season. Watson is a 230 million dollar mistake.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

this QB is truly unacceptable ...

Went from top 5 to this . What changed…. Coach

Originally Posted by THROW LONG

INt number Two, and Watson down,

one for five on the day, 2 interceptions, play of an int under review,
oh , it looks like it hit the ground.

I assume you will be disappointed if it is overturned.

the D is not doing anything for us either .. we look so flat

Browns spent all week reading their own hype. So far this is on Stefanski. That's why this team is 3-13 since 2021 following a win.

Delpit the guilty party on both TDs. Hopefully he’s not regressing to last year.

I hope those trash defensive players have learned a lesson to shut their mouths and just play . Let your play on the field talk. Best in the world.. pfft

Typical Browns, can't even depend on the defense now.

Another year down the toilet.

fumble ... our ball???

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

that will be the last pass he ever throws for us

Guys. We can’t cut him. We won’t have the cap space to field a team. We need to stop with the “cut him” talk. It’s not an option.

He gets 230 million no matter what. The only way out is if someone trades for him.

gosh we needed it

Finally a game changing play

Fumble - we have it!!!

myles needed it

Way to go Myles!!

The colts DL is controlling the los too much
Watson probably has a concussion,

I kind of hope he's done for the day, how could the other option be as bad as he's played so far.

Ohhhhh, Ahhhhhhhhh
What did we expect, that they'd let the Browns be decent

Oh, a fumble, Browns D, a loose ball who came up with it,
Browns ball,

OH NO, the offense will take the field, doh

Can our defense play offense?

91 shoulda fallen on it

walker time

Kareem Hunt for eleven

hunt for 10

Nice run Hunt!

hunt for 4

Take Watsons helmet and put I in the case back to Cleveland.

I think hunt is a better option to carry the load

Keep Hunt as the primary back.

five more the Browns have reached the red zone,
Goodwin to the 3

Nice!!!

Goodwin to the 5 ... that play finally worked

So...we're down to a single "healthy" QB and Stinkfanski puts him in as a blocker on a trick play. I like the result, I don't like the risk.

If Stefanski puts Watson back in fire his ass.

Points here and we have a chance provided Watson doesn’t come back

Hunt is a better runner that Ford.. Yes Ford had the big run but on a every down basis.. Hunt is better

Goodwin is so much better as our gadget, though he obviously has lost some of his speed at 32 years old

1. Make Hunt the starter.
2. Make sure Watson never sees the field again.

gotta get a TD

Originally Posted by dawglover05

Can our defense play offense?

I've been saying that since 2002,

at the game , when Orpheous Roye was on the team getting safeties for 2 points

so sad

straight ahead with hunt

Nothing cute, just pound it in.

We are right there, let's get a TD

They need to put this game on hunt’s back. Amazing to me that they continue to use ford as a feature back.

Just feed Hunt.

do it again

Hunt

TD!!!

There you go.

TD hunt

Touchdown Browns Kareem Hunt.

We've got the best Two OT's in all of Football

Hudson lined up as a WR/TE lol

Thank you Kareem!

With a dinged up rotator cuff why was Watson starting this game? Did we learn nothing from Mayfield’s injuries?

14-14

Hunt barely caught that snap.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Hunt barely caught that snap.

Yea, i just noticed that too.

cmon D

Wally leaves and the play improves.

... it's only a coincidence.

I feel much better about this game now. Watson is a wreck.

touchback

Baltimore is literally destroying Detroit

minshew is really an issue

Admit the mistake, trade or cut Watson.

We need more speed on defense. Getting gapped by Minshew

Seriously? Seriously?

where the HECK is the defense??

Dline blows

If I'm Indy I run run run.

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

where the HECK is the defense??

Standard browns

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Admit the mistake, trade or cut Watson.

We can not do either of those things.

flag ... late hit

they are so good with RPO

This defense is being exposed big time, how are they suddenly looking this bad??

Shredding our secondary and our dline is gassed. This will be 7

Colts up-tempo is catching the Browns out of alignment. Taking advantage of the D aggressiveness. We need to slow it down.

injury

Ravens are absolutely embarrassing the Lions.

What a BS personal foul. What is he supposed to do? Defy the laws of physics?

Ogbo hurt

We might need to go back to zone because they are getting thrashed in man

Damn hopefully nothing serious with Ogbo

That’s a big one if he’s out for a while.

This defense is fugazzi.

Oh no more bad news, Ogbo Okronkwo on the turf injured.

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Damn hopefully nothing serious with Ogbo

I literally told my wife before the play was over that he was hurt. . Seen him take a wicked double team

all week I knew this would be a strange, difficult game ... we can't stop them

our defenders are just dropping like flies

Moss is a PROBLEM

Walker needs to retire. Dude has nothing

flag .. on them thankfully

Good call for us.

Radio said Ogbo may only be an elbow to the gut but bad news Alex Wright to the locker room.

Wow Gardner freaking Lamar Jackson minshew, .... oh ok, offensive holding.

If the Colts weren't shooting themselves in the foot, this drive would already be a TD.

nice play del pit

FINALLY - D.

Good job D!

3rd and thirteen
4th and eighteen, Grant Delpit

Oko back in with that pressure

BLOCKED

Blocked Field goal,

BLOCKED FIELD GOAL ATTEMPT

Blocked!!!

Ward coulda scored gosh darnit

Where’s that elite speed ward supposed to have to get chased down ?

Wait...did we just see a Special Teams play?

thats just unbelievable

Garrett making up for the offsides id say

I can't believe that play

Browns take over at the 26 of the colts

Watson is done

I wish ward woulda scored

what an awful play call .. why?

And that’s the problem with ford

Keep hunt in

our QBs are SO bad

Darn it.

Yeah we don’t have a serviceable qb

3 and out one yard gained Fg try to come up.

17-14

Bad QB throw.

need to make a trade for Brissett asap...and I'd never thought I'd needed to say that

We don’t have a qb.

IF we had any type of QB play...

cmon d

Someone get Ray Farmer to text Stefanski and tell him to keep Hunt as the feature back.

Trade Watson for Brissett!

Sucks to say it about Watson. But he looks like our other QBs...fringe NFL QBs

Or if we atleast had Chubb

At least that throw wasn't in the dirt.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Trade Watson for Brissett!

I give up… you don’t seem like you understand the situation regarding Watson. Lol.

It's the middle of the 2nd qtr, the Browns have 1 completion for 5 yards, and 17 points. 🤣

man, he fumbled!

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Sucks to say it about Watson. But he looks like our other QBs...fringe NFL QBs

the problem is he didn’t look like that until he came here

Come on ward, you are sucking today

we blitzed at the wrong time

our defense is having tons of miscommunication

Just garbages. This defense is so slow

awful

Our dbs are bad

we are in trouble defensively

Should have traded for him when we had chance

Ward is so over paid it’s not funny

they are really putting it to us

Do we want to win?

If ya get a stop here, you'll be alright
Colts in coring position.

Consider this the blueprint to stomp us. Attack our edges and corners

can we get a hold on Garrett

Gardner Vick once again lol

Cross the field and our garbage safeties nowhere to be found. I hate this team. I will die before we win anything

the defense is being completely humbled

Holding

We need linebackers more than any other position on team outside of qb

Well I don't see our offense bailing us out today

This is pathetic.

Gardner fing Minshew singlehanded destroying this illusion we are a good defense

If we can’t get pressure the rest of the house of cards falls

Backup QBs always embarrass our D

Welp, it was fun while it lasted,
That @uarterback next week is also the same style to give you fits like minphew.

We just need to blow it up again

I don't know whether to root for a score here or just hope we don't turn it over or go quick 3 and out.

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Well I don't see our offense bailing us out today

That was our only chance.

We have no answer for mobile QBs. This is not a defense that can overcome zero offense.

this offense is going to have to score 40 points ... thats not a good recipe

This is pathetic

we have zero pass game

After last week and we don’t bring in a qb . Just more proof Berry is out of his element. We need some changes in the FO for sure

Watson looks like he's getting a talking to from Jimmy the owner himself on that helmet microphone hes' holding to his ear on the sideline.

That sexual predator wants nothing to do with getting back in there

Originally Posted by redddog

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Well I don't see our offense bailing us out today

That was our only chance.

We have no answer for mobile QBs. This is not a defense that can overcome zero offense.

They seem to have mimicked the Ravens success against us.

Cleveland Browns: Hey.
AFC North Basement: I kept your spot cold, lonely and dark for you.

Njoku was open there too.

And this is a bottom 10 defense and they look like 85 bears against us

we needed that

Yall an absolute trip. First off the injury to Watson is why he’s throwing ducks all over the yard. Hence why they pulled him. Second of all Minshew is an extremely capable backup. Better than PJ Walker by far and better Ghana DW with the injury. Every team is an NFL team. And it’s only the first half lol.

Originally Posted by redddog

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Well I don't see our offense bailing us out today

That was our only chance.

We have no answer for mobile QBs. This is not a defense that can overcome zero offense.

We haven't had an answer for mobile @b's since , ever.

and Njoku for a Fir down and 20+ while the radio is on a break,

Game...

unbelievable

Why is ford in the game

QB play is just bad

Oh that ball hit the ground

Told everyone, PJ Walker is garbage

I think its incomplete

That’s incomplete

Bro almost threw a pic on a screen

Stop trying to force Ford out there because you drafted him when hunt is obviously the better choice

our screen game is a disaster

Let's see more of Hunt and Strong, and some Coop please.

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Told everyone, PJ Walker is garbage

When life gives us garbage trucks, we drive them into the end zone.

Zero burst

Ford has to keep that north south running

Gus Bradley throwing some F bombs

flag .. false start

Where is Hunt?

Cmon...can't shoot yourself in the foot.

Pocic has been complete garbage today

Illegal snap?

I’d go for it at this point. Ain’t winning anyways

Same old Browns...drawing up plays 5 yards short of the first down marker.

For the life of me why are we throwing short of the sticks every time it’s third down?

Originally Posted by dawglover05

Bro almost threw a pic on a screen

But every screen they ever throw is in traffic, either in traffic, or about a backward lateral.

Originally Posted by slick

Illegal snap?

Marler. I'm not sure if it had anything to do with motion, as I know we had it against the Titans game as well.

Fire Kevin Stefanski

punt

our defense simply has to be better

good sack Elliott

Jordan Elliott got a sack, oy vey, who would have thunk it.

we gotta get a stop here

Weird game.

TDDDDDD

GARRETTTT

YES!!!!

TOUCHDOWN TONY FIELD, FUMBLE IN THE END ZONE AND THE bROWNs TAKE THE LEAD

MYLES GARRETT!

OMG - what did we just see? TD!

Myles with the strip sack, the blocked FG, and the strip sack for a TD.

Driving that Garbage truck right into the end zone .

I will say this, the energy has improved since the start f the game.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Myles with the strip sack, the blocked FG, and the strip sack for a TD.

And he’s not done!!!

Put Jim Schwartz on their shoulders!

Colts have been moving the ball well, getting stops, still losing. I bet they feel like....

The Browns.

come on D

Just think what the Browns would look like with a solid QB. Instead we get a $230m dollar anchor and an Amazon Prime Days deal backup.

24 to 2I and still a minute to go in the 2nd @uarter.

why are we calling timeouts??

I hate that timeout!

false start

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

why are we calling timeouts??

Because Stinkfanski. thinks he's smart.

We need Jacoby Brissett

I guess Myles really doesn't make any plays that matter.

Now that timeout looks smart

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

why are we calling timeouts??

If they throw it and it’s incomplete, we can get the ball back

okay 3rd and long ... no penalties or big plays

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

why are we calling timeouts??

Want to score again.

Not sure what our offense thinks they're capable of lol

nice .. incompletion

Schwartz has adjusted.

got to be intentional grouding, on that

He wants the ball back with time. What aren’t you getting?

thats the issue

Cmon Tony fields!

thats not a good penalty lol

Those dumb penalties

That's intentional grounding.

gosh, I wouldn't pass it here

No turnovers here please.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Schwartz has adjusted.

You are so right!!.. Schwartz figured it out and now his group is coming!!

they still have 3 TOs

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Not sure what our offense thinks they're capable of lol

The offense is garbage,
we're going to recycle it, ...

Baltimore is killing Detroit...jeeze

good job Njoku

Not watching the game. Can I assume DW was benched or what?

come on go go

The Chief is a beast with the ball in his hands.

Wheres the tempo?

Moore and Cooper played today,.

spike it

Why not a quick 8 yard out to make this an easier kick?

Thank god!

FG is good ... 27-21

D-Hop!!!! Anyone miss York?

nice job coaching staff honestly

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

Why not a quick 8 yard out to make this an easier kick?

wondering the same, or even a a little flare pass out of the backfield

Let’s go!! We have a kicker!!! Excellent clock management Stefanski!!

Somehow.. the Browns got their heads back on their shoulders and have grabbed their nuts

Man nice to have a consistent kicker

twenty seven to twenty one,
Browns get a FG good, at the last play of the first half.

Recycling that garbage offense.

It's a fact that PJ Walker is better than Deshaun Watson.

Anyone here thinks Watson is coming back into the game? Curious to what they do (as both given QBs have struggled)

Dog Berry all you want, but Hopkins was a brilliant acquisition.

I wouldn't mind more wildcat snaps

I like the check down game to the RBs and Njoku

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Somehow.. the Browns got their heads back on their shoulders and have grabbed their nuts

That’s all Schwartz. Guy’s legit.

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Anyone here thinks Watson is coming back into the game? Curious to what they do (as both given QBs have struggled)

Maybe, but watson needs to read the defense faster and actually be happy to hit the check down.

Watson is cooked honestly .. we might not be able to get rid of him, but we can't play him

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

nice job coaching staff honestly

Is that the first @uick scoring drive the Browns have had in 20+ years. ??

Yeah it'll be interesting what they do with Watson from now on...

So our sack leader at DT is Jordan Elliott...things I thought I'd never say.

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by tru_dawgs

Anyone here thinks Watson is coming back into the game? Curious to what they do (as both given QBs have struggled)

Maybe, but watson needs to read the defense faster and actually be happy to hit the check down.

My problem with Watson and the Browns is that you know he has not passed for 3 weeks.. now you put him out there and he is rusty as hell

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Watson is cooked honestly .. we might not be able to get rid of him, but we can't play him

This is possibly a real fear. Berry and Haslam are probably looking at each other thinking they have a $230m backup QB (and not a very reliable one) with no viable #1 option on the horizon.

the kid from D2 has the Bears up 21-3 against the Raiders

Maybe the weirdest, ugliest, most frustrating half of football I've seen in a long time. Yet, somehow, we have a 6 point lead.

cmon D

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Watson is cooked honestly .. we might not be able to get rid of him, but we can't play him

Yeah Watson looks nothing like his Houston self...and I absolutely loved Watson, he was my favorite QB out of that 2017 draft class.

not overlooked: had Garrett made contact with the center on the block it would have been a penalty and would have been their ball

Watson benched basically

no let up D please

god job Elliott

That proves that Watson was not ready and they put him out there

man, grab it dude lol

BEAST

heads up!!!

Myles almost added an INT to his resume today.

#94.. LOOK UP

apart from 2 plays their whole offense has been moss and minshew on runs

Garrett batted down the intended screen on 3rd and 8,

is DPJ the slowest returner in the NFL?

Need a returner bad, we should have grabbed Jamison Crowder when he was a cheap option

Watson is done forever, put a fork in him.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Watson is done forever, put a fork in him.

It sure seems like that right now.

this is a big drive

Originally Posted by TooTall

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

Watson is cooked honestly .. we might not be able to get rid of him, but we can't play him

This is possibly a real fear. Berry and Haslam are probably looking at each other thinking they have a $230m backup QB (and not a very reliable one) with no viable #1 option on the horizon.

This is a very real scenario.

I think in year 4 of his contract, we have options to cut him. But not before.

gosh darnit

Wills had a nice block

well, talk about a busted series

There's that awful offense

man, this offense is hard to watch

gosh almost a fumble

Damn, if that ball doesn't bounce right back into his arms.

I don't understand how the D can look so good one week and then come out the next and look this bad. The O I don't know where to begin.

Remember we have a dude who is a 3rd string QB now starting.. He will not see all the blitzes and read Ds as fast as he should

The qb that needs to play next week isn’t on the team yet.

Our O just has no life. They don't even seem determined to take over the momentum. Indy D knows our O is bad, and then worse with a backup. Nobody like Myles even trying to step up and challenge them to be better.

Dishrag Offense

That sack was on the @b's decision not to hit the hot read.
punted back to the other team.

The question really is... will Watson go to IR?

downs is good for them

cmon man

Denzel!!!

NEEDED IT

Awesome!!!

Intercepted, Denzell Ward to the fifty,

that was a nice play

Ward. Big INT.

Great Play by WARD

Picked off by Ward

I could hear our fellow dawgs barking in the background at the game!

Too bad he didn’t score . So here comes another wasted defensive effort

Real good chance for the Browns offense to take it over this drive,

Amari Cooper, Elijah Moore, DPJ, Njoku, ...

let's play football

cmon O

don't go backwards

wtf was that

Walker is garbage

Dead offense.

We get the TO, now we gonna throw 3 times in a row.

this QB is so freaking bad

Nothing like a lame duck play to keep that turnover momentum. Now two incomplete passes. We stink bad enough Colts don't even need to rush.

Hunt must be hurt

boy oh boy

People forget he was so bad he was cut by Indy in preseason

I rather see DTR

The scenario I fear with Watson is that the owners/FO will play him regardless of his suck level because they simply will not be able to admit to making the biggest, most expensive, most embarrassing blunder in the history of organized sports.

Hopkins big MVP so far.

Made the wrong cut could have had a first

than goodness

Good job! Good kicker!

that was a close shave, but it's 3!

my gosh this is such a grinder

Another Field Goal, fifty four yards barely in the right upright but, a 30th point.

Whew.

D-HOP again. WTG - but why aren't the Browns collecting a 5 Yard Facemask or the 15-PF helment-to-helment?

At least we’re getting points

Hopkins and the D are the MVPs of this game so far... our offense has not put together 1 drive

We cannot go into next week with the QBs we have. Make a trade Berry.

WE NEED TO PASS MORE
PJ WALKER IN.... PASS MORE.
GENIUS

Originally Posted by boofers20

that was a close shave, but it's 3!

Thanks to Goodwin, the only positive play on that drive.

Anyone know if hunt hurt?

Originally Posted by leadtheway

We cannot go into next week with the QBs we have. Make a trade Berry.

Berry is a liability.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

Originally Posted by leadtheway

We cannot go into next week with the QBs we have. Make a trade Berry.

Berry is a liability.

Always has been

come on D

how about a turnover lol

Downs is a big issue

Originally Posted by leadtheway

We cannot go into next week with the QBs we have. Make a trade Berry.

IKR, you mean to tell me the commanders wouldn't take a 5th round pick for Brissett?

flag

TV coverage it super bad today. Can't even keep up with the snaps.

come on D don't let up now

Scramble drills and our cbs have no idea what to do

C’mon D!!!!

Just melting down again. Just once I’d love to see a consistent game

PJ is fine, we just need to put Watson on ice for another 2 weeks and let PJ get all the reps on practice

And it’s not like they don’t practice against a mobile qb everyday

Originally Posted by Swish

PJ is fine, we just need to put Watson on ice for another 2 weeks and let PJ get all the reps on practice

lol no

Come on defense!

ugh

Run play and linebackers nowhere to be found

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by Swish

PJ is fine, we just need to put Watson on ice for another 2 weeks and let PJ get all the reps on practice

lol no

Yes.

Why has this defense totally forgotten how to tackle????

we're not losing, we're not losing,
and on the road to boot.

yes the game is on the road

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by Swish

PJ is fine, we just need to put Watson on ice for another 2 weeks and let PJ get all the reps on practice

lol no

Yes.

Na. You the only one saying this. Just like you thought DTR was going to ball out. Walker is a scrub

Garbage defense STOP TACKLING FORWARD

trouble here

Ut-oh, here comes Indy.

Damn it looks like we have some of these plays well defended, then we dont.

we are in trouble

D is back to patty cake mode.

Fields got manhandled on that screen

Never fails. Get 3 and give up 7, wash repeat.

Why would they try anything else

What in the hell?

Worst linebackers in nfl. By far

This score will be the game; D starting to show some fatigue and our O is flatter than the Earth in 550 BC.

Taylor is humming

I have to wonder if they are sitting Watson because of his shoulder or because he sucks so bad they don't know what to do with him. Or both?

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by Swish

PJ is fine, we just need to put Watson on ice for another 2 weeks and let PJ get all the reps on practice

lol no

Yes.

Na. You the only one saying this. Just like you thought DTR was going to ball out. Walker is a scrub

You’ve had plenty of bad takes yourself.

PJ is a backup, and we’re not gonna get anybody better mid season.

Running it right down our throat.

30-28

Getting bullied. You knew they were going to run it too.

Easy 7 there

Our linebackers are SOFT.

not good considering our offense is so bad

Damn.. Inside run right in the middle!!.. Right down our throat

He just walked in.

We won’t score again

hunt must be hurt

I've got no audio. Is Hunt hurt?

Anything is possible

PJ Walker is so freaking bad

this has turned fast

flag

Walker sucks but there is no alternative.

Chef for the first ,
they're holding Amari Cooper continually

We need to trade for Jacoby Brissett. If we don't do anything at QB, Andrew Berry is complicit.

We really needed that first down.

roughing passer

Ford not in

strong for 8

Nice run there

Jacoby failed last year, in the red zone offense , we don't need him back at all.

well, that was nothing

Stop
Giving
Ford
The ball

my goodness what a poor line play

Ford sucks

Nope.

Originally Posted by DCDAWGFAN

I've got no audio. Is Hunt hurt?

Wait.. they put Hunt in the game now.. On a stacked up middle run

stop showing Watson

Useless

That play was going to work.

Our offensive line sucks!

that is so typical of our offense ... RIGHT there

HORROR

that defines our offense

Even more [censored] useless

What were they thinking,
uh, the forward pass exists for a reason,

we got out marted by our own coach, DUMB

Laughable

Stefanski can go jump in the lake.

Well just had a Kevin Stefanski moment!

this offense is a joke

Hey. 4th & 1...let's pitch the ball backwards because that's the best option to get a first down.

They aren't doing anything special, our D just needs to man up.

come on Ford

FIRE KEVIN STEFANSKI

the free plays have destroyed us

this loss epitomizes our franchise

OMG.. why does our D always stop when they think its OFF-SIDES

disgusting

Pathetic

Live by Garret die by Garrett

Enough talk of this being an “elite” defense. These guys are TERRIBLE.

Unabated to the QB and 5 yards way better than giving up the big freebie. This game is done; Indy about to score and PJ Walker is not gonna save us.

Look.. Garrett has probably accounted for 10pts this game... but if he jumps off sides, the rest of the team cannot stop playing

Got to have an offense in the NFL.

this is a brutal type of loss if it occurs

Originally Posted by jimmyfoxhound

Enough talk of this being an “elite” defense. These guys are TERRIBLE.

We’re not gonna be hearing about that anymore. That was a false narrative. We gonna lose by 12 points today.

gosh almost a fumble

Got lucky there. Hard ball to catch.

OMG... that was 6

and 31-30

1 Point Lead might as well be 1000 the way our O plays. Stinkfanski is just as bad as the 2 loser QBs on the squad.

You have to have an offense in the NFL,

If we don’t score here, we’re taking the L

10 unanswered points...gut check time

At some point, our O is gonna have to score without it being set up by he defense.

thats the issue DC

It was obvious the colts would show up today,
but,

do you have an offense

This is gonna be a heartbreaking loss. Mainly because it signifies the end of the season.

we have zero pass game

Berry and stefanski have to go. If they don’t ; this will be our life until they do

Good play that worked.

circus music

hunt for 5

Bills end up winning it

Once Hunt gets that thigh back... then he should start

and now we're in trouble

I’m guessing we needed to keep hunt fresh for the 4th quarter, that’s why he didn’t play in the 3rd

needed it to Cooper

Finally! Cooper.

Cooper!

why are we pitching it 10 yards behind the line

Why do you have WRs blocking on sweeps

Ford may be injured.

Wth?

Ford injured

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

why are we pitching it 10 yards behind the line

It’s crazy right? So far behind the LOS

no foul ... of course

Flag

as good as a punt

Better than the punt we were about to make.

Clown offense.

Ugh.

if our D can't hold them here we don't deserve it (and we don't anyways)

Was that into quadruple coverage?

Well atleast it was caught on the 2... but the backup QB has to look underneath on passes

Wtf is Stefanski thinking??? Hunt has been gettig good chunks of yards and Ford has been sucking. Takes Hunt out, puts Ford in. Idiot.

Great punt

Need to get rid of Stefanski and Berry.

this has been one of the more aggravating games in recent memory

We gave up 3rd down to pin them on the 2. Defensive implosion to follow…

Just replayed... NJoku standing by himself at the 40

Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life

this has been one of the more aggravating games in recent memory

It really really has.

Ward is out with a concussion

Now reporting Ward may have a head injury.

come on D

good job D

Ward out with head injury again lol

Colts just showed they don't think we can score.

Good stop D!

strange play calls by the colts

Ward being checked for a head injury? Dude better retire before his brain becomes destroyed.

Good job D

why fair catch it??

Peoples Jones only thinks about fair catching

Doesn't matter. We don't know how to score.

DPJ is a terrible returner

There goes Ward for 3 weeks with a head injury

TD patriots

Originally Posted by slick

Ward out with head injury again lol

That's not exactly funny

flag on us .. its just so bad

how many games can we screw ourselves on that

What a move Moore

overturned .. thats the right call

HOLD SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE

strong for 5

Strong is better than Ford

i like what I've seen from Strong so far.

Originally Posted by tastybrownies

HOLD SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE

The refs?

That call shows that NFL refs are pathetic. They make NBA refs look good and MLB umps look great.

Too many negative runs.

okay having Harris at FB is NOT working

its killed us twice

Walker is REALLY bad

this is too far

Walker couldn’t get minutes in a rec league flag game

GOODNESS

PJ what was that?

YES!!!

thats a big kick

Holy Crap! 58 Yards D-Hop!

DAMN.... I cannot believe this FG kicker

Build him a statue.

now its on the defense

Hopkins saving Stefanski’s job.

WE GOT A FREAKING KICKER

Well we scored 3 so the defense will give up 7

Stefanski breathing heavy there

defense has to do it

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Well we scored 3 so the defense will give up 7

But you said we wasn’t gonna score again

Can the defense pull its head out of its ass?

why is myles on the sideline

OK. why is Myles Garrett on the bench

game

Nice tackling.

Fitting end

Welp…

Well... that was fast...

we are giving up 40 points to this team

thats unacceptable to have Myles out

I hate this team

Smh

Myles didn’t let that receiver break tackles in the secondary. Come on guys

Interesting tackling

Newsome and Emerson with crap tackling

Yeah wtf was that by Emerson???

I'd like to be angry with the D, but the real culprit is the O not being able to make a sustainable drive. D has played a great game for the most part, but they're getting gassed this late in the game. Now we'll come out with a tepid offense, 3 & Out and it will be game of ball control to end it.

we deserve to lose

If our O pulls off a win it will be a miracle.

Absolutely we deserve to lose.

our offense doesn't give much hope

this offense man

One of the least likeable teams I can remember.

When will Stefanski be held accountable?

screw this team man

killed

Man, some of you all suck!!.. We deserve to lose... screw that!!!

Our defense isn't giving much hope either.

We all knew that was going to be a sack

Just…ridiculous

O line got destroyed

When your QB and O is so bad that the D doesn't even have to cover WR so you can rush 7...

Hold Stefanski accountable.

Originally Posted by Swish

O line got destroyed

Yup... and our QB did not even feel that blitz coming... He is a 3rd stringer and we know why...

Originally Posted by DogNDC

Man, some of you all suck!!.. We deserve to lose... screw that!!!

I think when people say that, they actually mean we earned the loss

Screen pass coming.

It seems that win stacking is not in the cards.

Originally Posted by TooTall

I'd like to be angry with the D, but the real culprit is the O not being able to make a sustainable drive. D has played a great game for the most part, but they're getting gassed this late in the game. Now we'll come out with a tepid offense, 3 & Out and it will be game of ball control to end it.

Colts have run 5 more plays. Defense just getting it done today.

Man that could’ve went either way

Browns have to have an offense to win games

Originally Posted by Bird

It seems that win stacking is not in the cards.

Right now I'd settle for stacking a few first downs let alone wins...

You need to have an offense to win in the NFL

We have 2 1/2 minutes to score a TD and if we do, then we deserve to win.

Originally Posted by Bird

It seems that win stacking is not in the cards.

You are correct, sir.

We don't have an offense.

I’m not feeling great about our chances.

Just one drive PJ. Come on

Why even look at Cooper,

PJ sucks

Dropped

Beautiful pass.

It's all Goodwyn and Moore, today,

What a throw!!!

Everybody pray for a miracle win here!!!

We have the best 2 OT in the NFL.

Originally Posted by Swish

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Well we scored 3 so the defense will give up 7

But you said we wasn’t gonna score again

And you said PJ was fine bahahahaha.

Let's Gooo offense.

Njoku is wide open

game

We are done

Bunch of morons. Eat it Stefanski.

And that is why Walker is not a quality NFL QB.

Saved by a flag.

That’s a forward pass

lol saved by the flag

Even so; there's nothing about our O that suggests they're going to push it in for a TD.

lol that’s a funny flag for sure cause um…..

PJ does not see blitzes... he can make some throws but if he cannot pick up blitzes.. he wont work

That's a bad flag actually.

Flag on them!!

Now that’s a good call

1st & Goal...and we pass the ball...I'm Stinkfanski, have you met me?

What freaking calls is Stefanski calling

what happenned???

All you had to was run it up the gut lol

WTF Stefanski run that damn ball, QB sneak something damn

The sexual predator looks bored

Why not try running the ball in?

1st & goal - 3 failed passes - not one running attempt.

Lol

I can see the headlines now. "Browns bailed out by refs again"

TD HUNT

He didn't get in. Knee was down

Just confirm it. Browns TD Hunt!!!! Unless something happens, we luck...er pulled one out.

Woo!!!!

If this stand the Browns were lucky.

Originally Posted by slick

He didn't get in. Knee was down

You angry

Please please please somebody take play calling away from Stefanski

Weakest 2 PT attempt ever.

If stopped, time would run out with no time outs. Incomplete pass stops the clock.

Colts injury - Time Out or 10 sec run off.

Why go for two points with so little time left?

Is that game?

Stefanski is a problem, it’s not going away. Say what you want about Watson but he was elite before coming here.

Kevin doing Kevin!!!.. What a crap 2pt play

HOLD 'EM D!

Damn that could’ve been it!!

Omg that is brutal

Ugly win. I'll take it.

FUMBLE!!! That’s game!!! We win

Yaaaasss

I will take this ugly win ALL DAY LONG!!!

Sexual predator clapping his hands like he did something. Probably just happy it's massage time

Might be the craziest game since 99

I prayed for a win here and we got it, thank God.

Z Smith with the FF!!!

Should I just consider this a make-up for the Steelers game we absolutely should have won?

Holy moly. This thread will serve as a good transcript of how I can lose all rationality and cool-headedness during a Browns game.

2 weeks in a row and we actually catch a few breaks. Was I really watching the Browns.

Crazy.... just a crazy game...

I just don't want too many more ugly like this ..... because we won't win a lot like this.

I don’t care what haters say, PJ Walker is doing his job as a backup and keeping us afloat. 2-0.

Stefanski should not be celebrating a damn thing today

Originally Posted by dawglover05

Holy moly. This thread will serve as a good transcript of how I can lose all rationality and cool-headedness during a Browns game.

lol yeah, it gets crazy in here but it def was a hand wringing kind of game

HOLY CRAP

Un Freaking believable
Browns Win. 4 and 2.

Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan

I just don't want too many more ugly like this ..... because we won't win a lot like this.

Man we needed a crazy game like this though. Learn how to win in different ways, especially since we’ve been on the losing side of these far too often

Originally Posted by Swish

I don’t care what haters say, PJ Walker is doing his job as a backup and keeping us afloat. 2-0.

Stefanski should not be celebrating a damn thing today

Agree.. kid had some ugly plays, but did just enough... Stef with some bone head calls today... Watson looked awful before going out... if he's hurt then I say bench him until he's 100% or just leave him on the bench for the rest of the year and roll with walker... hope Ford is ok... defense won this one...

Agreed.

And they said it was a shoulder injury even though he slammed his head on the turf. If he did injure it, put him on IR, get it cleaned up in surgery so he can recover and be back next season

Wait.. where are all the people who said "We deserve to lose".... All you people who gave up!!!.. SHUT UP

Originally Posted by 3rd_and_20

Why go for two points with so little time left?

I think going for 2 is the right call, one broken tackle and they are in Fg range.
The play call could be discussed but not the decision to go for 2

Defense won EVERY one.

Except maybe Tennessee.

Originally Posted by Swish

I don’t care what haters say, PJ Walker is doing his job as a backup and keeping us afloat. 2-0.

Stefanski should not be celebrating a damn thing today

Agree on stefanski , disagree on Walker. 0 tds and 3 picks and a sub 60 rating isn’t going to be a long term solution

Originally Posted by dawglover05

Defense won EVERY one.

Except maybe Tennessee.

We did give up 38. The D had some good moment no doubt, but the O and kicker won this game.

Gotta disagree. Yeah they gave up a lot but they also scored a touchdown and had key turnovers.

I’ll give the O credit for that last drive. Apparently we need to tell PJ Walker that every drive is our last drive.

Originally Posted by leadtheway

Originally Posted by Swish

I don’t care what haters say, PJ Walker is doing his job as a backup and keeping us afloat. 2-0.

Stefanski should not be celebrating a damn thing today

Agree on stefanski , disagree on Walker. 0 tds and 3 picks and a sub 60 rating isn’t going to be a long term solution

Bro, I think you’re forgetting that I’m talking about this guy from a backup perspective. Of course he isn’t long term, but there’s no other QB we’re gonna pick up mid season who will learn the offense fast enough to play better. And he’s made some good throws to get us in position to score, and we’re 2-0.

Myles his to stay in the game...as in mentally.

First, he played great, but two times he jumped off sides, then stood around like a dummy as the play progressed.

Myles, if you jump off side, that happens, but keep going and get a unimpeded to the QB call and whistle. Don't stand there like a goof while the other team gets a free play and makes the play.