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Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:27 PM
10 & 5!!!
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:30 PM
In Flacco we trust , but we have to find way to get running game going to do anything in playoffs. Hopefully the kickers are ok. Short week
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:30 PM
I understand the thought process about subbing-in when you're way ahead, but please Kevin don't ever do that again....
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:31 PM
I'll take it!!! A very nice Christmas Present for all Browns fans today!!!!!
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:32 PM
Originally Posted by bbrowns32
I understand the thought process about subbing-in when you're way ahead, but please Kevin don't ever do that again....

That got my feathers ruffled a bit. Hopefully he learned his lesson.
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:33 PM
Originally Posted by leadtheway
... we have to find way to get running game going ...

It has been virtually non-existant lately. Go with Strong and Hunt. #34 is not even backup quality, maybe 4th string...
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:35 PM
I expected a win, but not total domination. Great win. 10-5! I hope we win out.
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:36 PM
This team might have been unbeatable fully healthy with Flacco. Imagine the PA he’d get with Chubb
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:37 PM
On Andrew ciciliano calling the game a win with twelve minutes to go

... right before the meltdown, and he was on C.B. Radio broadcast, angry word, I'm so mad, my thoughts are not

he should NEVER be allowed near the CB radio broadcast EVER again, law abiding.

go to ///

oh, and FIRE THE COACH,
FIRE KEVIN TODAY

for almost losing that game, for letting off the accelerator,

//////// him TOO.
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:41 PM
The last 6 minutes of the game felt like an hour. Please KS don't do that again! On the other side, thanks for the win!!!!!
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:43 PM
Originally Posted by leadtheway
In Flacco we trust , but we have to find way to get running game going to do anything in playoffs. Hopefully the kickers are ok. Short week

Seriously you are the most negative poster on this board

In every game day thread, Browns winning or losing you want Stefanski and Berry fired along with Haslam selling the team

And yet you say in Flacco we trust

Do you have any idea how Flacco even ended a Brown ?

And the fact he said he loves this team and would never go anywhere else

That has a bit of a say in the FO and team

You are a pathetic Browns fan, if you even are

You are probably some Steeler or Bengal fan
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:44 PM
Anyone else thinking Flacco is going to make Thursday personal
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:45 PM
I wasn’t, nor am I now.
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
Originally Posted by leadtheway
In Flacco we trust , but we have to find way to get running game going to do anything in playoffs. Hopefully the kickers are ok. Short week

Seriously you are the most negative poster on this board

In every game day thread, Browns winning or losing you want Stefanski and Berry fired along with Haslam selling the team

And yet you say in Flacco we trust

Do you have any idea how Flacco even ended a Brown ?

And the fact he said he loves this team and would never go anywhere else

That has a bit of a say in the FO and team

You are a pathetic Browns fan, if you even are

You are probably some Steeler or Bengal fan

lol triggered much , you’re a pretty dumb dude apparently. I have been a fan of Flacco being here. wtf about anything in my post had to do with being negative. lol I love that your little brain gets melted by something someone on the internet posts. Go outside some
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:48 PM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
I wasn’t, nor am I now.
Then that’s obtuse
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:48 PM
Originally Posted by leadtheway
Anyone else thinking Flacco is going to make Thursday personal

Hopefully he won't have the negative losing mentality you have

You will make it personal

You will post your stupid firing everybody posts all game long

Send your negativity across every game day thread
Posted By: boofers20 Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:48 PM
ST today were the lemon, can't help the injuries but with a short week with holidays finding a replacement kicker/punter going to be tough. If we recover the 1st onside kick I think we don't give up their last TD at all but still won by 2 scores, with a kicker we could've added 9 more points on FGs
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:49 PM
Originally Posted by leadtheway
Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
Originally Posted by leadtheway
In Flacco we trust , but we have to find way to get running game going to do anything in playoffs. Hopefully the kickers are ok. Short week

Seriously you are the most negative poster on this board

In every game day thread, Browns winning or losing you want Stefanski and Berry fired along with Haslam selling the team

And yet you say in Flacco we trust

Do you have any idea how Flacco even ended a Brown ?

And the fact he said he loves this team and would never go anywhere else

That has a bit of a say in the FO and team

You are a pathetic Browns fan, if you even are

You are probably some Steeler or Bengal fan

lol triggered much , you’re a pretty dumb dude apparently. I have been a fan of Flacco being here. wtf about anything in my post had to do with being negative. lol I love that your little brain gets melted by something someone on the internet posts. Go outside some


My little brain is bigger than your losing negative ball sack
Posted By: Bird Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:51 PM
Why didn’t the Browns lose? I thought the NFL and refs were supposed to make the Browns lose?

Great game.

Will probably need a bit more of a running game in the playoffs but that is down the road.

Need to find a kicker quick.

Beyond that? There is nothing to complain about.
Posted By: Psydeffect Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:52 PM
When we go back to Watson next year I will be crying that we actually had a QB who could read the defense stand strong in the pocket and run Stefanski's play action game to perfection.

Until then I guess I will enjoy it, thank you Flacco. This is a hell of a run.
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:52 PM
Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
Originally Posted by leadtheway
Anyone else thinking Flacco is going to make Thursday personal

Hopefully he won't have the negative losing mentality you have

You will make it personal

You will post your stupid firing everybody posts all game long

Send your negativity across every game day thread
Boohoo. Do you need a binky? This post is hilarious. Anyone that thinks a qb who is having a resurgence gets to play the team that cut him during a playoff run isn’t thinking about going out there and killing them is just silly or have never played competitive sports. And did I call for anyone today other than ventrone to be fired, which I stand by and I think will be . Amazing what winning does. But anyone that doesn’t think there should be accountability for the bad drafting and horrible contracts is just a homer
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:53 PM
The Defense let you down again on the road, not 60 minutes of consistent play.

The D coaches, let you down AGAIN ON THE ROAD,
the D scheme let you down AGAIN on the road,
The D Coordinator, and coordination, and ANALYTICs let you down AGAIN on the road,

they let ANOTHER TEAM back into a game after you had dominated them,
YOU GAVE THEM LIFE, WITH YOUR OWN stupidity and arrogance and

@uitting before the game was over, they took the players off the field, they took their foot off the gas,

incredible
unbelievable
Only IN CLEVELAND would they so ruin a good day,

by giving up on a game with twelve minutes to play.

No gameball for the coach, in fact whatever is an anti gameball, boo
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:56 PM
It was a beat down. We made Texas our bitches. That was fun to watch, except for garbage time. Congrats to Amari. He set records today.
Posted By: THROW LONG Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:57 PM
Originally Posted by Psydeffect
When we go back to Watson next year I will be crying that we actually had a QB who could read the defense stand strong in the pocket and run Stefanski's play action game to perfection.

Until then I guess I will enjoy it, thank you Flacco. This is a hell of a run.

Watson won't play more than 6 games next year either. I mean? what could one expect.
Posted By: boofers20 Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 09:57 PM
at least we have WR that we can be proud of have the receiving yards team record, and get it with a win as well!
Posted By: bonefish Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:02 PM
Your own posts are all that is needed to prove what a knucklehead you are.
Posted By: PortlandDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:08 PM
Meanwhile, THROW is posting like we lost by 30.
Posted By: PortlandDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:10 PM
Great win. Weird conditions losing all kicking. Made it feel closer than it ever really was. We dominated. Coach took the opportunity to get back up players real time. It didn’t go as plan. He adjusted. We put the game away.

Next.
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:15 PM
Originally Posted by PortlandDawg
Great win. Weird conditions losing all kicking. Made it feel closer than it ever really was. We dominated. Coach took the opportunity to get back up players real time. It didn’t go as plan. He adjusted. We put the game away.

Next.

With the Bills winning last night, makes it that the Browns have to keep winning

In a way that may be the thing that keeps the winning mind set on the Browns team

Got to go forward winning, no time to relax might be what KS is saying to his team
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:17 PM
Originally Posted by bbrowns32
I understand the thought process about subbing-in when you're way ahead, but please Kevin don't ever do that again....

I thought the same thing until Z Smith went down. It scared me a bit, especially since I was driving and listening to the radio when it happened. It was hard to know if it was serious.
Posted By: PortlandDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:21 PM
He got up on his own and walked off. As a matter fact prior to falling to the ground with the injury he was walking fine. Then went down. My guess it was a ‘breather’ injury. Gave the team a rest and reset. My guess is it won’t end up on the injury report.
Posted By: DaveyD Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:23 PM
Originally Posted by THROW LONG
On Andrew ciciliano calling the game a win with twelve minutes to go

... right before the meltdown, and he was on C.B. Radio broadcast, angry word, I'm so mad, my thoughts are not

he should NEVER be allowed near the CB radio broadcast EVER again, law abiding.

go to ///

oh, and FIRE THE COACH,
FIRE KEVIN TODAY

for almost losing that game, for letting off the accelerator,

//////// him TOO.

We are 10-5 with major injuries galore and you are calling for the coach to be fired. You need to go back on your meds my God.
Posted By: ScottPlayersFacemask Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:23 PM
Browns fans, I have some super secret insider information. Please don't tell anyone else.

The Browns have 10 wins!!!



Edit: I forgot to add: this message will self-destruct after win number 11.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:28 PM
I watched the whole game ... the offensive passing game was such a joy. Flacco to Cooper was electric. Sprinkle in Njoku and we are humming.

As we've said, if only we could pair it with a consistent running game.

The defense was really good too. Secondary and Z were good.

Only bummer was Hopkins
Posted By: bonefish Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:28 PM
I don't know all the what if's?

But if the Broncos lose tonight. How could we not be in?

Even if we lost the last two games and the Bills got the 5th seed. We would have to have the 6th seed?

Really I am not worried. If the Niners win tomorrow. Winning the division is very real. That is the goal.

We are within reach of the best record in the AFC.
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:33 PM
Originally Posted by leadtheway
Boohoo. Do you need a binky? Amazing what winning does. But anyone that doesn’t think there should be accountability for the bad drafting and horrible contracts is just a homer

No I'm good ! I don't need a binky, I'm not boo hooing ! Actually having a victory shot. Don Julio Blanco

As far as amazing what winning does and the accountability for the bad drafting and horrible contracts being a homer

I never thought of myself as a homer

But if it takes bad drafting and horrible contracts to win with all the injuries and possibly be playing in the play-offs

Then yes ! put me on the homer list. Or maybe I can't believe it list

And you calling me a pretty dumb dude, I would prefer you say I'm not a very intelligent Browns Fan, makes me feel stupider than what you want to portray me as.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:36 PM
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
The last 6 minutes of the game felt like an hour. Please KS don't do that again! On the other side, thanks for the win!!!!!

And if one of the guys got hurt, the rally cry would have been is why did you have the starters in the game? Had we covered that onside kick, it would have been completely different.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:39 PM
We have people complaining when we won by 14 .... with both kickers injured in this game, and half the team on one IR list or another. crazy
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:40 PM
Originally Posted by DeisleDawg
Originally Posted by PortlandDawg
Great win. Weird conditions losing all kicking. Made it feel closer than it ever really was. We dominated. Coach took the opportunity to get back up players real time. It didn’t go as plan. He adjusted. We put the game away.

Next.

With the Bills winning last night, makes it that the Browns have to keep winning


I know anything can happen, but we are 1 game up in total record and 2 up in AFC conference games record which is the first deciding tie breaker for wild card IIRC.
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:46 PM
I think we can wrap up a playoff spot with a win next week. (which would give us a staggering 11 wins, which could only be matched by Buffalo, and no one else)
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:48 PM
Thanks for that !
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:55 PM
We will clinch a playoff spot if we beat the Jets.
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:57 PM
Originally Posted by bonefish
I don't know all the what if's?

But if the Broncos lose tonight. How could we not be in?

Even if we lost the last two games and the Bills got the 5th seed. We would have to have the 6th seed?

Really I am not worried. If the Niners win tomorrow. Winning the division is very real. That is the goal.

We are within reach of the best record in the AFC.

If the Broncos lose, they are pretty much done and the Texans are still like a 2% chance over Denver

All I know is I want to be reading posts from bonefish during post season.

That means the Browns are still winning ! smile
Posted By: bonefish Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 10:57 PM
You are a great fan and a good poster.

"follow the blind" is not worth your effort.

We have a team that is giving our fans real thrills. No matter what happens the camaraderie and heart this team plays with is special.

It is so visible watching how these players play for each other.

Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 11:04 PM
Tom Petty was always one of my Favorites

The Traveling Wilburys ! smile
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 11:05 PM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
We will clinch a playoff spot if we beat the Jets.

Won't have to beat the Bengals then ?
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 11:06 PM
Originally Posted by lampdogg
We will clinch a playoff spot if we beat the Jets.


A qin Thursday vs the Jets clinches a playoff spot.
A win by the 49ers contributes toward us winning our division.
A win by the Cowboys and the Raiders contributes toward us being the #1 seed.
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 11:10 PM
Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
Originally Posted by lampdogg
We will clinch a playoff spot if we beat the Jets.


A qin Thursday vs the Jets clinches a playoff spot.
A win by the 49ers contributes toward us winning our division.
A win by the Cowboys and the Raiders contributes toward us being the #1 seed.

My Granddaughter said today

" Poppy you going to enjoy watching football on Christmas ? "

I'm glad I didn't see your post

I may have told her' Poppy isn't watching ! "

LOL !!
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 11:11 PM
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 11:14 PM
Originally Posted by superbowldogg

LOL !!!
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 11:26 PM
lol I hate Daryl Ruiter and loved that
Posted By: FORTBROWNFAN Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 11:40 PM
Originally Posted by superbowldogg

Good for you, Kevin.
Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess Re: Post-game discussion - 12/24/23 11:42 PM
I say this to all the reasonable adults on this forum…
1. Expand your ignore list. There are children running amok. And oh, such fragile children they are. But they’re ghosts to me. I only see them in y’all’s reactions to them. You know who they are. I suggest you remove them from your purview

2. Don’t spend a lot of time in the gameday thread. If you’re like me and a sizable percentage of the inhabitants are in ignore it’s pretty quiet and a little weird anyway. But there’s just no point
Posted By: WooferDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 12:33 AM
Great games by Cooper and Flacco.

This is not the team that started the season. They are fun to watch and getting better as Flacco gets more time with the team. A big strong armed QB can make a difference. Nice quality throws by Joe.

The D normally has saved the O.

Not today.

Two very winnable games coming up.

I just wish that Chubb could be part of the success.
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 12:37 AM
Originally Posted by 10YrOvernightSuccess
I say this to all the reasonable adults on this forum…
1. Expand your ignore list. There are children running amok. And oh, such fragile children they are. But they’re ghosts to me. I only see them in y’all’s reactions to them. You know who they are. I suggest you remove them from your purview

2. Don’t spend a lot of time in the gameday thread. If you’re like me and a sizable percentage of the inhabitants are in ignore it’s pretty quiet and a little weird anyway. But there’s just no point

I just like telling it like it is

I can ignore them or just tell them to support the team or go root for another team
Posted By: northlima dawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 12:55 AM
Our chances of getting in the playoffs are currently 99.2%
Posted By: JimDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 01:11 AM
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Posted By: JimDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 01:53 AM
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 01:56 AM
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:02 AM
Posted By: Frenchy Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:06 AM
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:14 AM
what a fun day
Posted By: PrplPplEater Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:18 AM
Flacco now has 200 yards more than Watson for this season in two fewer games.
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:27 AM
Originally Posted by JimDawg
[Linked Image from static.clubs.nfl.com]

I don't think its crazy to think of flacco as Comeback player of year, if we win out and lets say win 1 game in playoffs. If we win 2+ games then MVP absolutely comes in to the conversation.
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:28 AM
1. Great game.

2. With this defense, kick the freaking ball out of the end zone!!!!!
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
Flacco now has 200 yards more than Watson for this season in two fewer games.
more TDs than all the previous 3 QB's combined
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:30 AM
Originally Posted by EveDawg
It was a beat down. We made Texas our bitches. That was fun to watch, except for garbage time. Congrats to Amari. He set records today.

lol, they actually cut my feed off after we went up 36-7 here in Cincy. I had no idea what happened afterwards.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:30 AM
https://imgur.com/XeAuG6V

lol
Posted By: leadtheway Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:31 AM
Flacco in the playoffs is a different dude, He's done things only Tom brady can say he's done, the biggest thing is his ability win playoff games on the road, he's won as many as Brady with less opportunities. He also took Manning and Brady out in the same playoff run
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:35 AM
yeah they cut off the feed here too. I didnt see anything in the last 12 minutes
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:42 AM
Forgot to add, we swept the South.
Posted By: Clemdawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:45 AM
Originally Posted by superbowldogg

This was perfect.
Coach Stef ftw! (Coach Stef for COtY)

3&out:

1. Flacco/Coop is the future for this season. As goes 15/2, so go the Browns. No prettier-looking long ball in the league. Having a deep threat gives this team a chance in every game they play between now and February.

2. Zero kicking crew at the end of this game is a real concern. I hope that both guys are merely dinged, and not forcing Andrew Berry to find new Browns just before the tournament. But, what else should we expect after a year like this? Elves ain't making excuses, so why should we?

3. I am an enthusiastic member of The Bonefish Browns Fan Faithful. I haven't had this much fun watching a Browns team since the Kardiac Kid days. Every week, a new calamity befalls these people... And every week, they find a new way to keep on keeping on. IMHO, this is what it's supposed to feel like to be a fan of a legitimate NFL team. Like
BoneI, I'm reveling in the fact that December is almost over... and the Browns are still in the thick of it.

4th, and go for it:

Regardless of how this drama plays out for 2023, I see the nucleus of a team that can be a perennial contender in the AFCN, going forward. Berry and Stef need contract extensions, 76 Berea needs to remain stable, and Browns fans should be able to look forward to a good number of years of entertaining football. A winning culture is now being established. Players have bought in, and the table is set. Continue upon this course, and IMHO, Dawgs are set to feast after a long, long fast.

.02,
WOOF!
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:47 AM
Originally Posted by dawglover05
Forgot to add, we swept the South.
IIRC, Stefanski has an unbelievable record against the AFC South (and NFC South for that matter)
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 03:03 AM
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
yeah they cut off the feed here too. I didnt see anything in the last 12 minutes

Same. Thought they would change the feed over to Sunday Ticket since the local feed stopped and I don’t think they ever did. Definite gap in Sunday Ticket coverage.

Positives -

Unbelievable feeling to root for a team that you feel has a chance to win every week, then goes out and wins.

I thought if we got into the playoffs, we’d be one and done. With the way Flacco is playing, with this defense, and with no real dominant teams in the NFL, the Browns have a legit shot to go all the way.

We have to resign Cooper right?

Alex Wright is starting to flash. Great use of hands today.

What a ride this season has been.

Negatives -

Moore was not worth a second round pick. Classic case of liking a prospect coming out, missing on said prospect, having a chance to land prospect for premium compensation…all while ignoring all the evidence that suggests it was a bad idea…just because you liked the guy coming out.

After an embarrassing week of pressers designed to build up Garrett’s confidence and lobby the media for him to be DPOY, he now has five straight games without a sack. I get he had two tfls, but no one tapers off at the end of a season like Garrett….whether it be due to injury, suspension, asthma, car accidents. 13 sacks is an embarrassingly low number of sacks for a guy who is supposed to be the best defensive player in the nfl. 5 games without a sack…meanwhile Watt is about to lead the league in sacks for a third time. No one plays the bridesmaid better than Garrett.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 03:11 AM
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
lol I hate Daryl Ruiter and loved that

I agree. I liked him for a while, but he is a whiney, sniveling pip squeak of a person.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 03:28 AM
Quincy Carrier
@Kwen_C
Kevin Stefanki is now 10-0 vs AFC South in his HC career\
Posted By: JimDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 03:31 AM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
lol I hate Daryl Ruiter and loved that

I agree. I liked him for a while, but he is a whiney, sniveling pip squeak of a person.

[Linked Image from i.ytimg.com]
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 05:49 AM
- Another week, another win. This game was over from the get go.

- Browns will win out and Stefanski will collect another COY award.

- Stefanski, Flacco and Cooper we're having a blast dunking all over the Texans today. Great scene w/ Cooper and his arm around Stefanski and both in smiling spirits.

- The easy win allowed the Browns to only play Ward on obvious passing downs.

- Shelby Harris bats down passes.

- Get well Hopkins and Bojorquez.

- I absolutely wanted to see D'Anthony Bell attempt an XP.

- Nice game from Zadarius Smith.

- JOK has grown as a player and leader as the season has gone on.

Game Ball: Amari Cooper (congrats on being the 1st Browns receiver to have multiple 1000 yd receiving seasons and a career best in receiving yards).
Posted By: Cincy_Dawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 11:46 AM
THANKS!!!
I thought I was the only one who lost the feed!
Don't know if the Dayton feed was killed too!
I had taped it and it was too late to switch.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 12:27 PM
Man what a feeling waking up this morning. I mean it is Christmas Day and I got the best present.

The 2023 Cleveland Browns are 10-5. We are as real as a sunrise. We are not going to just make the playoffs. We are a real playoff team.

We have found an offense through Iceman Flacco. Add a dominant defense and we ready to go with a boatload of momentum.

We have already taken down the Ravens and Niners. We have beaten seven teams with a winning record.

We are no longer hoping for a quarterback to be "OK" while the defense roars. Trying to win games 14 to 3.

We have Flacco going Yard to Amari. We have Njoku ploughing guys and catching TD's.

Talk about feeling it today. Man this is living large.
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 01:05 PM
Originally Posted by northlima dawg
Our chances of getting in the playoffs are currently 99.2%

Honestly hoping there is a way for the Ravens to slip up and for us to win the Division.

Great game. Just a great feeling to be in this position, wonderful Xmas present.

Here's to smashing the Jets.
Posted By: mac Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 01:20 PM
Any word on Hopkins...?
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:07 PM
Hopefully the 9ers give us a Christmas present tonight.
Posted By: jfanent Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:34 PM
Originally Posted by Clemdawg
I haven't had this much fun watching a Browns team since the Kardiac Kid days. Every week, a new calamity befalls these people... And every week, they find a new way to keep on keeping on. IMHO, this is what it's supposed to feel like to be a fan of a legitimate NFL team.

Thinking back to the overwhelming hopelessness we felt and how the life was sucked out of us when Mister Chubb went down, this team has won games facing adversity like no other.....and that's not an embellishment. The Browns leadership has led this team thru uncharted territory, overcoming one horrible obstacle after another....like it's business as usual. Flacco has been an amazing story, but we beat the two best teams in the NFL without him. This season will go down as one of the most memorable in Browns history. And it's faaaaar from over.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 02:48 PM
I agree with the fun part: this team is fun. They are together, believe that we will win, give a lot of effort, and have good personalities.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by leadtheway
This team might have been unbeatable fully healthy with Flacco. Imagine the PA he’d get with Chubb


I was thinking the same thing. Flacco brings maturity and experience. If we'd have had him all year and a few fewer injuries, like Chubb and our line, damn, we'd be unstoppable.. I'm convinced of it.
Posted By: 10YrOvernightSuccess Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 04:17 PM
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by leadtheway
This team might have been unbeatable fully healthy with Flacco. Imagine the PA he’d get with Chubb


I was thinking the same thing. Flacco brings maturity and experience. If we'd have had him all year and a few fewer injuries, like Chubb and our line, damn, we'd be unstoppable.. I'm convinced of it.


Some teams (and some people) actually do better with one arm tied behind their back, so to speak. When they have the full complement of resources they over-think and misuse their tools. It’s kind of a “paradox of choice” problem.(There’s a great book, Tedtalk, by Barry Schwartz about it.)

But when the ingredients list is seriously curtailed, they get much more intentional and direct in their approach. I found myself wondering yesterday if that isn’t Stefanski. His first season he’s hit with the Covid limitations for practice and prep. This year it’s the unbelievable avalanche of injuries.

Insert Flacco, who has nothing to prove, is just playing for the fun of it and to show off for his kids, coupled with a team that anyone who’s actually keeping track would give a pass for losing against halfway decent opponents and you have a team that probably doesn’t feel the performance pressure in the same way other teams in our position would. That’s my take anyway.

The old saying that there’s no more dangerous an opponent than the one with nothing to lose kinda holds. At this point, I wouldn’t want to play against us and I wouldn’t bet against us. The “wild card” moniker that comes with our entrance to the playoffs is apt to say the least.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 04:48 PM
The players are telling the story. Listen to the pressers of Myles, Cooper, JOK, Njoku, Bitonio. Listen to the players like Newsome and Emerson.

These guys are playing for each other. At the same time they all acknowledge their coaches specifically KS.

KS has gotten the best qb play from Cousins, Baker, Jacoby, PJ, DTR, DW (limited) and now Flacco.

Flacco starts and we go back to the play action game. Dialing up Cooper and Njoku. The play near the goal on the first TD was a brilliant play.

Flacco flanks. Direct snap to Ford. Texans buy the fake to Flacco. Ford skates in for the TD. The DTR two point conversion later.

KS is getting the best from his players. The team believes in the 1-0 mentality. Now they know they can beat anybody when they play their game.

Damn this feels good.
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 05:37 PM
Saw Texans fans reacting on social media that it was the injuries that caused them to lose.


Yeah, I don’t really want to hear that excuse…
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 06:35 PM
lol thats like the pot calling the kettle black
Posted By: WooferDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 08:19 PM
Still very happy about the win.

Now regarding a couple of the comments.

We have to face the fact that the running game may not return this year. The Browns are on their third right tackle and second left tackle this year. Patchwork at its best. There was a reason as to why the players were backups or free agents. Yet, the Browns manage to stitch together wins in all manner and form.

The job of a head coach is to adapt to the skill set of the players, in order to win games. I feel that KS has done exactly that. I know that there will be chatter above what he has and has not done, and second guessing the Cleveland coach is a time honored tradition here. But, this year, the coach is doing exactly what he should be doing with success. Good job, KS.

No coach has a right to go out and win with 4 different starting quarterbacks, and that win was with style.

So cut the chatter, and enjoy the ride. It has been a great year, totally unexpected after Chubb, then Watson went down.
Posted By: ScottPlayersFacemask Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 09:25 PM
I agree Woofer.

Regarding the running game, it's going to be difficult. Even with the group that is out there now, it's hard to gel when there is always someone coming out for an injury or missing a game. That's not taking in account what you already said about our tackles.

One thing that is tipping this off in my opinion is look at all the variety of run plays Stef has been calling the past few weeks. A decent portion of the running plays have been a misdirection or trying to use visual deception with the linebackers to confuse. Think about last year or the beginning of this year. Most of the running plays were more smash mouth, basically saying we are going to line up to run and you aren't going to stop it. Now fast forward to the past few games. You are seeing more of unconventional running formations like: Hunt in the shotgun, Flacco out wide, faking the toss back to Flacco and running (or flipping it to him for a pass).

At least the tackles have been serviceable in the pass game.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 09:44 PM
Ford and Hunt are limited runners. The tackle play is below average.

We still ran the ball 30 times. We gained 54 yards.

We will continue to run in order to set up play action. But it is unrealistic to believe we are a real threat running the ball. We are now a passing offense.

That is what is working. Until a team can stop us. We do what we can till we need to try something else.
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/25/23 10:50 PM
I agree, Damanshot. Flacco's maturity is evident; apparently some QB's do not rust as fast or as badly as others. A real difference that I see is Flacco's composure. As we pass more, he seems truly calm at the snap despite the replacement linemen or those playing injured. He is smooth reading, moving the D, and usually throws on time from the pocket smoothly. It seems more confident and assured when contrasted with Watson's snaps, not all of them, when he freezes and flushes, until he delivers a ball as he freelances. Both have success; I don't care who wins us games or how. We need Watson's legs more than ever; the stats for Flacco have been fun. The picks, not at all. I just favor the mesh I am feeling with Ski and Flacco, and it seems that it may be building. I hope the D can compensate for our diminished run game. Unleash the Elf! Go, 'Niners!
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/26/23 12:49 AM
Being on the verge of clinching the playoffs is just the best feeling ever. I'm so excited! I feel we have the talent and the coaching to hang with any team.
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Post-game discussion - 12/26/23 01:23 AM
It is a great feeling and one we don't experience much as Browns fans. The Pats and Raiders helped us out. Let's hope the Niners can too!!!
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post-game discussion - 12/26/23 02:32 AM
Last time we made the playoffs was awesome, but I didn't feel the same about that team. I really like this year's team (and think we can play with anyone)
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Post-game discussion - 12/26/23 03:26 AM
Our D keeps us in any game. Now that Flacco is hooking up with Cooper and Njoku, even if our run game is suspect, we’re a legit threat to any team. I’ll fear no team we will play in January.
Posted By: captainphil Re: Post-game discussion - 12/26/23 06:31 AM
reasonable to think Browns at AFC South champ then, optimistically, at Baltimore.

would have loved a home game but lets take it to them.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Post-game discussion - 12/26/23 12:11 PM
Even with the Ravens win last night. Our boat sails on its own course.

Because of all the adversity the Browns have faced they have been forged through fire. If we are now locked into the 5th seed with a win Thursday. So be it.

Maybe it is not a bad thing to face the South winner. We beat every team in the South.

We beat the Ravens in their home. So if needed we can do it again.

How ironic would that be? Go to Baltimore and beat them with Flacco. Who that's gottta hurt.
Posted By: jaybird Re: Post-game discussion - 12/26/23 03:26 PM
Originally Posted by bbrowns32
I understand the thought process about subbing-in when you're way ahead, but please Kevin don't ever do that again....


I like the idea of taking our guys out, especially with how many injuries we've had... but maybe we took them out just a little too early... but frankly, if we get the on-side kick we could have left our backups in

Either way - hell of a game. Cooper is amazing! Not only setting the most yards for a WR in browns history, but at least 3 catches were highlight reel... unbelievable...

and I know we were playing the Texans' backup QB, but defense was on point! It would have been interesting to see how we faired against CJ...

hoping Hopkins heals up... glad we signed a back up, especially for Thursday... but we need Hopkins healthy...

Dominate win... especially on the road against a team trying to make the playoffs and win their division.... great game...

Now, let's finish the season right and go into the Playoffs hot..
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Post-game discussion - 12/26/23 04:53 PM
Originally Posted by leadtheway
Anyone that thinks a qb who is having a resurgence gets to play the team that cut him during a playoff run isn’t thinking about going out there and killing them is just silly or have never played competitive sports. And did I call for anyone today other than ventrone to be fired, which I stand by and I think will be . Amazing what winning does. But anyone that doesn’t think there should be accountability for the bad drafting and horrible contracts is just a homer

You know, I actually don't disagree with any of this. It's just been a long time since we've had a QB who can deliver the ball like Flacco is doing. It's been a long time since we've seen this team come together in the face of adversity with all of these injuries and tough it out by continuing to win football games. It's been a long time since we've seen this team gaining momentum going into the playoffs. In a scenario which on paper would seem as though the Browns are a team that couldn't possibly be winning football games, they are.

So while I'm certainly not trying to dissuade you from posting as you wish, I hope you can understand why some fans would prefer to put the negatives on the back burner just long enough to enjoy the moment for a while. It's a moment in time like one they haven't had in a long time. Sit back , breathe and enjoy it while you can. It might be worth a try.
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