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Posted By: Swish Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:12 PM
We win!! That's all that matters!!
Posted By: Vambo Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:13 PM
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:14 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
We win!! That's all that matters!!


Yep. Now hope 49ers win vs LA.
Posted By: Punchsmack Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:14 PM
Win.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:15 PM
draft pick #2
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:16 PM
I follow the Browns on twitter. They always have so much enthusiasm for sucking so bad. So I always feel bad for them.

Today I am happy for them, and the fans.

Congrats team! Holiday win!
Posted By: BustkeviousMingo Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:16 PM
Happy to have a win finally.
Todays win will probably cost McCoy his job.
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:16 PM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
draft pick #2


I DON'T CARE WE ALL NEEDED THIS WIN!!!
Posted By: bluecollarball Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:17 PM
Those guys played their asses off!

A well deserved win.
Posted By: candyman92 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:18 PM
We are locked into a top 2 pick no matter what.
Posted By: The Beast Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:19 PM
Screw Jimmy Haslam! He so deserved an 0-16 team. LOL
Posted By: DaveyD Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:19 PM
Off the schneid!!
Posted By: Milk Man Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:19 PM
Browns win! It's a Christmas Miracle!!
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:19 PM
Originally Posted By: bluecollarball
Those guys played their asses off!

A well deserved win.


AMEN!!!
Posted By: The Beast Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:19 PM
Originally Posted By: BustkeviousMingo
Happy to have a win finally.
Todays win will probably cost McCoy his job.


Their kicker will be cut Monday.
Posted By: trebuhcs Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:19 PM
Thanks!!
Posted By: DaveyD Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:19 PM
Rooting for 49ers!
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:20 PM
Originally Posted By: DaveyD
Rooting for 49ers!


Yes I am smile
Posted By: trebuhcs Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:20 PM
I did not want to see a parade!
Posted By: MrTed Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:22 PM
Originally Posted By: The Beast
Screw Jimmy Haslam! He so deserved an 0-16 team. LOL


Maybe, BUT DID WE? NOOOOOOOO!
Posted By: Dawg_Traveler Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:22 PM
Thank you Browns' for playing hard and not rolling over...you deserved (and played a few games good enough) a few wins this year so at least you got 1!
Posted By: The Beast Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:24 PM
Originally Posted By: MrTed
Originally Posted By: The Beast
Screw Jimmy Haslam! He so deserved an 0-16 team. LOL


Maybe, BUT DID WE? NOOOOOOOO!


Seeing Haslam with an 0-16 on his record would have been awesome. He is truly a piece of garbage as an owner who is nothing more than a crook. Screw him.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:24 PM
Great stuff! Defence was gritty today.
Posted By: drobs Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:24 PM
Yessss! Draft pick be damned, I'm thrilled!
Posted By: candyman92 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:25 PM
Now this season can be washed away as just a bad year that will be remembered as nothing but a bad dream.
Posted By: MrTed Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:26 PM
Originally Posted By: The Beast
Originally Posted By: MrTed
Originally Posted By: The Beast
Screw Jimmy Haslam! He so deserved an 0-16 team. LOL


Maybe, BUT DID WE? NOOOOOOOO!


Seeing Haslam with an 0-16 on his record would have been awesome. He is truly a piece of garbage as an owner who is nothing more than a crook. Screw him.


Who cares who HE is? Whatever record he has, we have and I don't care to have an 0-16 record just to fulfill some passive aggressive 'thing' I have with the owner of a sports franchise.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:26 PM
The stadium was empty, but I noticed the Dawgpound was full. Whoop whoop!
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:28 PM
Posted By: HotBYoungTurk Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:28 PM
The team played a full 30 mins... then something happened during the 2nd half.

Oline fell apart and it hurt us badddddddd.

Proud of the defense for making plays when it counted the most. Even more impressed on how they shut down the run game today.

End of the day though, it's obvious we need more talent on defense, and a better oline.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:29 PM
Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg
x2
Posted By: Homewood Dog Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:30 PM
Thank you my Brownies for the win and a nice Christmas present. I don't care if now we will pick #2. I wanted to win at least 1 game. Thank's again!!!
Posted By: Swish Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:32 PM
Yea even if San Fran loses I don't care.

If we have to "settle" on Allen, I ain't mad at that.
Posted By: Dawg_Traveler Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:34 PM
The locker room mood should be off the charts! smile
Posted By: illegalmoe Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:35 PM
Well there's the first part of the prediction, lets see if it damages both picks
Posted By: CHSDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:36 PM
Now that we got our first win, I can't wait to see us roll over for the Steelers next week smirk
Posted By: Tulsa Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:56 PM
Hey Benji, nice catch, you lost!
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:57 PM
"The pierogi prince of Parma does it again" - Joe Thomas on Jamie Meder's FG block #Browns
Posted By: DevilDawg2847 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 09:59 PM
We Won!!

Posted By: Tulsa Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:09 PM
Wrong thread. tsktsk
Posted By: DevilDawg2847 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:17 PM
Originally Posted By: Tulsa
Wrong thread. tsktsk


You're right... I fixed it. smile
Posted By: rockyhilldawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:19 PM
Two things:

1) If a team is gonna win only one game in a season, better the 15th game than the first game.
2) Our last win was now one hour ago. (as opposed to 2015).
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:20 PM
We won one. Let the streak begin. This was a typically clean and overpowering Browns victory. Cancel that parade.

A load has been lifted. One win.

I had to leave the bar early; how many Chargers got knocked out of the game? We think it was about eight.
Posted By: Razorthorns Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:21 PM
There goes Myles Garrett =(
Posted By: Swish Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:28 PM
https://www.facebook.com/clevelandbrowns/videos/10154971132159684/

Almost made me cry. These players absolutely love hue.
Posted By: Hamfist Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:29 PM
I'd rather have the one win. This will mean so much to the team and the staff that it will be worth it in the ling run.
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:33 PM
Originally Posted By: Razorthorns
There goes Myles Garrett =(


Maybe but even so Jonathan Allen is a pretty good consolation prize thumbsup
Posted By: rockyhilldawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:37 PM
I think on average there's less than one roughing the quarterback penalty in a game.

Did San Diego have three?

It seems teams are trying to hurt RGIII.
Posted By: Swish Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:42 PM
Originally Posted By: rockyhilldawg
I think on average there's less than one roughing the quarterback penalty in a game.

Did San Diego have three?

It seems teams are trying to hurt RGIII.


Yea they had 2 or 3. RG3 was lighting they asses up on the ground and they got pissed off on the last flag.

Screw em.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:42 PM
pretty emotional in that lockerroom
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:42 PM
All Browns fans happy!



Even their owner, for once!

Merry Christmas everybody! That win was a sweet present. WE ALL NEEDED THAT. thumbsup
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 10:52 PM
Originally Posted By: Swish
https://www.facebook.com/clevelandbrowns/videos/10154971132159684/

Almost made me cry. These players absolutely love hue.


^Must^ watch. That was excellent.
Posted By: HotBYoungTurk Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 11:02 PM
Really cool to read the facebook comments from lots of fans of other teams happy that we didnt go winless on the season...
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 11:20 PM
one big reason I wouldn't have cared about 0-16 was Haslam ... but I'm glad for the players/coaches
Posted By: brownieforlife Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/24/16 11:46 PM
I don't get all the hate for Haslam. He isn't a cheap owner. He is an absent in owner. He has shown a passion to win...hasnt led to W's yet but will.

Sure, he has made some crappy hiring / firing decisions but I don't think those were bad owner decisions but moreso a young and inexperienced owner.
Posted By: bbrowns32 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 12:21 AM
Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Claus...
Posted By: TTTDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 12:30 AM
A win and a SF win!
A Merry Christmas after all! nanner
Posted By: candyman92 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 12:31 AM
Alright guys.

NOW you can celebrate.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 12:50 AM
As to the game:

finally we sent some blitzes that were effective, also run D was good. I saw Ogbah double-teamed a few times, dunno if they consistently put two on EO or not.
Griffin played better again this week. The second half he was under extreme duress, earlier in the game he made some nice throws, mixed in a few nice runs.
The slant route to TP: we don't do that nearly enough. Jamar made some key pass breakups in the game, he's solid.

I like our new kick returner.
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 12:53 AM
Originally Posted By: TTTDawg
A win and a SF win!
A Merry Christmas after all! nanner


Yes thumbsup
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 12:58 AM
Even better. Last I checked, niners were down 14 in the fourth. Great news!
Posted By: Spiritbro77 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 01:03 AM
Wow can't believe they won. So we get the win and still have the first pick..... what a kick ass day!
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 01:05 AM
yeah, this was the perfect outcome today
Posted By: PastorMarc Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 01:06 AM
Originally Posted By: lampdogg
Even better. Last I checked, niners were down 14 in the fourth. Great news!


Yea I turned it off thinking it was over ... superconfused
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 01:12 AM
Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
Wow can't believe they won. So we get the win and still have the first pick..... what a kick ass day!


Wow, I just woke up from a nice nap and had to re-read that. Hey-now!
Posted By: MrTed Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 01:18 AM
Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
Originally Posted By: Swish
https://www.facebook.com/clevelandbrowns/videos/10154971132159684/

Almost made me cry. These players absolutely love hue.


^Must^ watch. That was excellent.


Joe Thomas in tears: Why anyone's opinion of Jimmy doesn't matter. Joe deserves this as much as we do!

If there ever was a Brown that deserved to be here to see it turn around, it's Joe!
Posted By: sk8termom Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 01:54 AM
congrats on your first win.
Posted By: CHSDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 01:58 AM
Originally Posted By: sk8termom
congrats on your first win.


Thanks. And thank you for the kind words throughout the season. You've always been a class act. Now let's hope we have a good football game between us next week.
Posted By: Punchsmack Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 01:58 AM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
draft pick #2


Draft pick #1. cool
Posted By: sk8termom Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:02 AM
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: sk8termom
congrats on your first win.


Thanks. And thank you for the kind words throughout the season. You've always been a class act. Now let's hope we have a good football game between us next week.



I have a secret liking for Cleveland, as long as they aren't playing my team. Hopefully the Steelers take care of business tomorrow and clinch the AFC North. I hope for a good injury-free game next week.
Posted By: Cincy_Dawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:12 AM
We were opening Presents as the clock ticked down.
I got just what I wanted for Christmas!
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 03:21 AM
Originally Posted By: Punchsmack
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
draft pick #2


Draft pick #1. cool
brownie
Posted By: Hamfist Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 03:29 AM
Dee Haslam's reaction was great. She showed me how much she cares in a 3-second video.
Posted By: lampdogg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 03:52 AM
It's nice to get a win, not be 0-16.
Posted By: boofers20 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 05:06 AM
this is a game we shoulda lost but won, so this makes up for the Miami game where we shoulda won but lost
Posted By: candyman92 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 06:19 AM
My reaction after the game and the 49ers winning.

Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 08:19 AM
That Colin Kaepernick isn't so bad.
Posted By: rockyhilldawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 11:16 AM
I take back everything I said about Krapperneck.

That he’s stupid. A real jerk. An arrogant putz. A First Lieutenant in the Schmuck Army. That he’s ugly as sin. If he were my kid, I’d put a diaper on his head and make him walk backwards. That his mama is so stupid, when she hears that it’s chilly outside, she gets a bowl and crackers.

That…

Oh...uh.. I like him now.
Posted By: mac Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 11:30 AM
Santa does deliver in Cleveland...
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 12:21 PM
Originally Posted By: illegalmoe
Well there's the first part of the prediction, lets see if it damages both picks


Yeah because we draft so well right? Only damage coming will be inflicted by the picks or trades themselves.
Posted By: 1oldMutt Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 01:33 PM
Garrett/Allen, Allen/Garrett...Either way we'd do alright. Now at least we have that choice.

Or...They could get stupid. I hate to throw that in there but...
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 01:40 PM
That was an exciting finish. I'm so happy for Hue, his staff, and the players.

Playing on a losing team is so tough. I can't imagine how hard it would be to play on a winless team. The joy they showed when they won the game was as pure as it could be.

Again, I couldn't be happier for the coaches and players. Cheers!!!
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:15 PM
To tell the truth, I didn't know if I should smile or cry.

What I mean by that is that yes, WE WON.. and I'm happy. Then I realized we probably lost the first pick. Made me wanna cry.

But in the end, it's OK,, San Fran Won also so, we are still at the bottom. (or top depending on how you wanna look at it)

As for the game itself, I do believe Crow did a pretty good job yesterday. RGIII didn't play poorly really, but it's the injury thing that has me still thinking, he's not the answer.

The D was pretty stout and did it's job.. Got a little lucky at the end but still, they did a much better job. Almost see what could be.

Merry Christmas folks..
Posted By: bleednbrown Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:23 PM
If RG played with more "tude, like he seemed to yesterday, we might have something. I thought Crow laid down early, always running into the line and falling down...whats up with that?
Then he got his crap together and had a few nice runs.
Wish he would make up his mind. Either be a RB or sit down.

Really like the Duke, Crow should take lessons. Haden, still aint gaining no love from me, I guess I'm done with him. I know not as bad as I say but...Just something aint right with the Man.
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:43 PM
They spelled Cleveland wrong! willynilly




D'oh! laugh
Posted By: PDXBrownsFan Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:50 PM
I was watching with about 20 other Browns fans....all ex-Clevelanders and hardcore fans. Honestly, the celebrations in the bar were as euphoric as the packed bar I was at when the Cavs won.

I am proud for the Cavs and for the city to finally win a championship but, I would trade the Cavs Championship for a Browns Super Bowl any day. They just mean so much more to me.

I firmly believe Hue is the man to right this ship...we must stay the course. Go Browns!
Posted By: tastybrownies Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:50 PM
Very much agree on Crow. I think there needs to a RB drafted and there be an open competition next year. Of course we need offensive line as well.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:52 PM
I don't agree w/the negative takes on Crow. He is a very good back. Not so sure why people don't give him the credit he deserves???????
Posted By: PDXBrownsFan Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:52 PM
Originally Posted By: 3rd_and_20
They spelled Cleveland wrong! willynilly



Are we sure this isn't photoshopped by somebody making fun of us? I saw the tv cameras on this very sign and I don't remember noticing the misspelling.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:53 PM
No, I saw it during the game. It was misspelled.
Posted By: PDXBrownsFan Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 02:56 PM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
No, I saw it during the game. It was misspelled.


I guess I had one beer too many yesterday because I didn't notice it. smile
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 03:02 PM
Some nice-sized pictures of us winning yesterday with this article, too big to post:

'It's a Christmas miracle! Cleveland Browns actually win a game to improve record to 1-14 and avoid going winless on the season'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...NFL-season.html
Posted By: bonefish Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 03:04 PM

Very Happy for the team and coaching staff. Merry Christmas boys!

It is easy for us to sit back and be critical. It is another to work hard and get slammed for 15 weeks straight.

The emotion in the locker room is real.

Nothing beats winning. For this week the Browns can feel good. What a load to get off your back.
Posted By: bleednbrown Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 03:07 PM
I guess I'm hard on Crow just like Haden. His 1st two yrs. was run into the line...hop...lay down. Thats it. He kind of got away from that, but noticed the last few games he was running and....hop lay down again. Just run the ball. Look at Duke, he runs 100 mph and makes people miss. Yes I know their different types of backs but ya gotta have the effort. I guess he thinks if he can't see daylight might as well lunge forward for a yd.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 03:10 PM
I don't know, bleed. There are just times where this isn't a hole. I thought he got a lot of extra yards yesterday.
Posted By: Tulsa Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 03:17 PM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
No, I saw it during the game. It was misspelled.


See, the economy is getting better under Trump already. Now even dumb-arse drop-outs can afford tickets to games! wink
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 03:43 PM
The very ending of the game was insane, it got fast but quick. Were they even going to have enough time to kick it? If so I pretty much expected the field goal to drive a stake through all Browns fans hearts, but no go! We finally won one. Victory at last. thumbsup

...And still have the first pick in the draft. (Hey-now!)
Posted By: bleednbrown Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 04:04 PM
Your usually right Vers. But he does seem to have some bad habits and thats running into the line and hop and lay down. Maybe he will be more consistent.
Posted By: BADdog Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 04:07 PM
Thank you San Francisco
Posted By: The Big G Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 04:14 PM
With an improved offensive line and a legit passing game, Crow can be a plus NFL starter. As can Duke. Neither of these guys is the problem right now.
We need to draft Miles Garrett and a QB, then bulk up OL and secondary. If the rookies make progress, we could take a giant leap next year.
Or we could go 1-15, trade down in the draft, fire the coach and front office and start over again. I'm kinda on the fence. LOL.
Posted By: DiamDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 05:27 PM
Thank God ... thats all i ever wanted ....

And we get to keep the 1st pick for now ...

Merry Christmas!
Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 05:55 PM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I don't know, bleed. There are just times where this isn't a hole. I thought he got a lot of extra yards yesterday.


Crow's a very good RB. People seem to forget that the OL has been in flux for much of the year, and that hurts a RB just as it does a QB, Crow has good power, good quickness, and good vision. He can break a run when the opportunity is there to do so. He's a solid enough blocker, and can catch the ball. He's not Zeke, but he is a very good back.
Posted By: Dean Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 06:03 PM
Who cares. 1-14 this season, one win in the last 17 games, and 4 wins in the last 30 games? I refuse to celebrate anything about this pile of doo calling itself an NFL franchise until they AT LEAST make the playoffs.
Posted By: ErikInHell Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 07:03 PM
That win was a big enough deal to make the UK papers?
Posted By: Swish Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 07:06 PM
So, some actual observations:

i watched the play that RG3 got injured.

it's odd....well not odd because our line is suspect as hell, but i mean, RG3 was running around today, and was fine.

he got hurt trying to escape out of a non existent pocket.

and that pressure came from non other than Pasztor's lacking of blocking. Pasztor had a terrible game. our guard positions need to be addressed as well i feel, but if we do draft a O linemen in the 2nd, it has to be a OT to replace Pasztor.

if i'm not mistaken, the majority of our QB injuries this season has came from the right side.

So our healthy starters would be:

Thomas
Bitonio
Erving
Grecco
2nd round pick.

my other issue is this: is Grecco and Bitonio injury prone? i mean this is the second season he's on IR.

missed the last 6 games last season. only played 5 this season.

I'm not a big believer in Drango, but atleast he can stay on the field.

anyway, make no mistake, we won this game thanks to RG3 and some very good defensive play. we only allowed a TD in the second half, when that's when it normally starts getting out of control.

RG3 made crucial plays with his arm and feet, made way better decisions.

and he slid.

hopefully he can play next week. i know people don't want us screwing up the draft pick, but the browns are gonna try and win against the steelers.

if we are indeed going to play to win, we can't win that game with Kessler. our best chance is with RG3.
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 07:23 PM
Originally Posted By: ErikInHell
That win was a big enough deal to make the UK papers?


Yep, they have a lot of news from the U.S. Plus in their comments section they have worst rated comments as an option, which I find fun as hell to read. (Lots of trolls there.)
Posted By: ThatGuy Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 07:54 PM
General Game Thoughts

Of course the first play was a bomb to Benji, Haden got burnt and was lucky that Travis had to wait for the ball.

We got lucky with SD penalties on our first drive. 36 yards of them.

We actually got a lead, and didn't immediately give it back!

Holy crap did SD get hit by injuries in this game..

However, I had to laugh when they said they were the unluckiest team as it came to injuries.. Excuse me sir, they still have Philip Rivers, we have had 18 QBs this year.

Was not surprised when Haden ended up leaving the game. He's a really good player, but I would totally take a 2ND or 3rd for him and use it to improve the pass rush. Therefore making the DBs look better.

Our offense completely shut down in the second half. Like, there was nothing there.

Surprisingly, with no offense, our defense basically won this game.

Jamie Meder. What a play.

That bad snap on their final drive lost the game.
Posted By: CHSDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/25/16 08:51 PM
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I don't know, bleed. There are just times where this isn't a hole. I thought he got a lot of extra yards yesterday.


Crow's a very good RB. People seem to forget that the OL has been in flux for much of the year, and that hurts a RB just as it does a QB, Crow has good power, good quickness, and good vision. He can break a run when the opportunity is there to do so. He's a solid enough blocker, and can catch the ball. He's not Zeke, but he is a very good back.


His biggest problem is that he continues to lean way too far when he's running and trips over himself constantly. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting another back.
Posted By: WVDawg54 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 01:02 AM
Originally Posted By: lampdogg
dunno if they consistently put two on EO or not.

Ummmm... I haven't seen a "What I Saw" thread this whole season. How did you not notice that he's been double-teamed?
grin
Posted By: DeisleDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 02:48 AM
I didn't get that excited... Felt the Browns won buy SD's poor play..

The way the Browns played in the second half..they were lucky SD played worse..

I would have liked to have seen the team win by more points...then depending on a missed fg.

The Offense was terrible in the second half. A one win team..now people see all this hope in the same players they wanted off the team at 0-14
Posted By: ThatGuy Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 05:07 AM
There was no "excitement" at the end of the game for me..

Just.. relief.

SDs booted that ball, and I saw it go wide at the last second, and I just feel back into the couch..

Relieved.

Didn't care about draft picks, didn't care about player evaluations.

Just wanted a win.

I feel no differently about te team now than I did before..
Posted By: Cincy_Dawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 12:26 PM
GREAT Link!
Thanks!
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 12:28 PM
Much-needed win. Hats off to Meder! Just enough is enough.

Not sure we won as much as they lost. Nice to be on the other end of the stick. Still plenty of draft picks to mess up. Plenty of them. I like winning very much, thank you.
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 12:30 PM
We don't need no steenkink parades! A nice, clean Browns win.
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 12:39 PM
We need to send game balls to our refs and to San Fran. Thanks for the help!

Every talking head that lined up to throw the cheap shot rocks at us needs to give us some love Monday, Almost breathless and giddy grinding on us. We got a notch.
Posted By: GMdawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 01:32 PM
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 02:08 PM
Quote:
So, some actual observations:

i watched the play that RG3 got injured.

it's odd....well not odd because our line is suspect as hell, but i mean, RG3 was running around today, and was fine.

he got hurt trying to escape out of a non existent pocket.

and that pressure came from non other than Pasztor's lacking of blocking.


I disagree. Here is the play:



Stop the video at the 2 to 3 second mark. You can see that there is a very nice pocket and Pazstor is deeper and has the inside on his man. RGIII then tucks the ball and takes off running, which allowed the effectively blocked defender the chance to run after him. RGIII should have stayed in pocket.

In fact, many of the sacks were more the fault of RGIII than the OL. I do agree that the line did give up some early pressures, but most of the sacks/hits were not their fault.

--I do think that RGIII did play better this week.

--Coleman is not playing very well. His routes are poor. He is not defining himself as well as some other rookie WRs. Did anyone watch Hill for KC last night? That dude makes you go "Wow." And our boy, Michael Thomas from Ohio State, is absolutely standing out as an excellent WR. The Saints drafted him in the second round.

--Erving had a couple of more "dumb" plays. How can he not see those monsters run right by him while he double-teaming another guy?

--Crow and Duke had some nice runs.

--Reynolds blew a couple of coverages.

--Collins was a factor. He is big and fast.

--Pryor pushes off a lot. I wonder if refs are going to call it next year or if they'll let him get away w/it?

--Nassib is going to have to add some upper and lower body strength.

--Ogbah is a decent player who should contribute for some team for quite awhile.

--The other rookie WRs look lame as hell.

--Haden is a hard hitter. He just looks slow. Not sure how much of that is due to his groin injuries and how much is due to the fact he was never all that fast and he is getting older?

--Joe T is still a stud!

--Nice game planning by coaching staff.


Those would be my actual observations.
Posted By: WSU Willie Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 02:09 PM
j/c

That was far from one of our better games this year...yet we still won. I'll take an ugly win there...even if just to SHUT UP the rest of the NFL, its fans and the awful commentators/pundits. Imagine if we DID go winless? That would've been the talk of the entire offseason. I know that win doesn't change who we are by any measure...but at least the players don't have to talk about it anymore.

I thought RG3 was awful...again. The offense has no rhythm when he's in...and he is aiming his short throws poorly. He drops back...waits...looks to run...or just runs off the snap. That second half was painful to watch...the Chargers were teeing off on the Oline on every snap. I was screaming at the TVs for him to ONE TIME drop back in rhythm and throw the ball...throw it away...in the dirt...overthrow someone...throw it to Hue...just THROW IT. The best Browns throw of the second half was Kessler's pass to Coleman for a first down...nice for the rookies to impact the outcome like that...that showed the rhythm I was looking for the entire second half.

I feel dirty because last night I was rooting for the Rats to win. I wanted next week's game to mean something to the Cheaters and give us a chance to hurt their post-season. All my luck must have been used up during our W...I'm ok with that today.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 02:32 PM
Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Thank God ... thats all i ever wanted ....

And we get to keep the 1st pick for now ...

Merry Christmas!


Yeah woo hoo..celebrating our SB. willynilly Because trading away all our top picks is so gratifying year in and year out right?

2-14
Posted By: Bull_Dawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 03:13 PM
I think RG3's problems are confidence related. When he hesitates at all, bad things happen. I thought he actually had some pretty nice throws at times. Will he ever be consistently confident/comfortable is the question.
Posted By: Swish Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 03:14 PM
We need a better line to find out.

One thing is for sure, he's clearly the only QB capable of getting wins on this roster as of right now.

This entire season people swore up and down McCown was better.

Where? I don't see it.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 03:34 PM
Originally Posted By: bleednbrown
If RG played with more "tude, like he seemed to yesterday, we might have something. I thought Crow laid down early, always running into the line and falling down...whats up with that?
Then he got his crap together and had a few nice runs.
Wish he would make up his mind. Either be a RB or sit down.

Really like the Duke, Crow should take lessons. Haden, still aint gaining no love from me, I guess I'm done with him. I know not as bad as I say but...Just something aint right with the Man.


Didn't Crow score twice? and Haden is still injured.. Needs off season surgery..
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 11:26 PM
Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
Very much agree on Crow. I think there needs to a RB drafted and there be an open competition next year. Of course we need offensive line as well.


Does anyone else feel like Duke Johnson is our best offensive skill player and that he doesn't get the ball nearly enough?

I feel like he should be touching the ball twenty times a game at least.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 11:45 PM
No, I think Crow is better than Duke.
Posted By: HotBYoungTurk Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 11:52 PM
Tough getting enough opportunities for BOTH HB's and then trying to include the WR's with limited possessions...

Hopefully with a better oline, we'll get more possessions and can feed any and everyone who's hungry.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/26/16 11:54 PM
Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Tough getting enough opportunities for BOTH HB's and then trying to include the WR's with limited possessions...

Hopefully with a better oline, we'll get more possessions and can feed any and everyone who's hungry.


I didn't mean getting Johnson 20 carries, but just touches. He is dynamic when he gets the ball in space.
Posted By: HotBYoungTurk Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 12:11 AM
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Tough getting enough opportunities for BOTH HB's and then trying to include the WR's with limited possessions...

Hopefully with a better oline, we'll get more possessions and can feed any and everyone who's hungry.


I didn't mean getting Johnson 20 carries, but just touches. He is dynamic when he gets the ball in space.


carries/touches, all the same to me.. I do prefer Duke get more catches than carries tho. His agility is amazing, so definitely an asset when one on one with a LB.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 01:12 AM
I just saw that Demario Davis only played 34% of defensive snaps. Kirksey played 100%. Nassib, Ogbah, Meder, and Shelton were on the field together most of the game.

Anyone worried about us playing a "3-4 defense" should remember this.
Posted By: ThatGuy Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 01:39 AM
Philly's pick dropping out of the top 10 really sucks.

Mostly because that crazy idea of trading up to 2, and getting both Garrett AND Allen was so wonderful..

Ogbah and Garrett at DE.

Shelton and Allen at DT.

Then you still have high motor guys like Nassib and Meder on the bench?

Sigh.
Posted By: CHSDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 02:09 AM
We gotta trade down...
Posted By: Thebigbaddawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 02:20 AM
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
[quote]--Coleman is not playing very well. His routes are poor. He is not defining himself as well as some other rookie WRs. Did anyone watch Hill for KC last night? That dude makes you go "Wow." And our boy, Michael Thomas from Ohio State, is absolutely standing out as an excellent WR. The Saints drafted him in the second round.


I don't think it's fair to say this yet. For one, some WR'ers take longer to develop. Also, those two guys have significantly better QB's throwing them the ball. Hell, Brees is/should be a MVP candidate. Coleman has had RG3 and Kessler throwing him the ball. And lastly, his injury happened right after his best game of the season and took him out for an important part of the season.

From what I've seen, Coleman has his moments where he shows he can be a stud. He doesn't go down easy, he is a monster with the ball in his hands IMO. His route running is going to need work. And he needs to stay healthy. But I still think Coleman is going to be a hell of a player.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 04:22 AM
Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
Mostly because that crazy idea of trading up to 2, and getting both Garrett AND Allen was so wonderful..


Remember what the Eagles paid us to draft up to #2? Do you want to trade that for a non-QB?
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 04:23 AM
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
We gotta trade down...


I don't know if this is a joke or not, but we should definitely trade down with the second first round pick. Banking the future first round picks is a great strategy.
Posted By: tastybrownies Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 04:55 AM
Originally Posted By: brownieforlife
I don't get all the hate for Haslam. He isn't a cheap owner. He is an absent in owner. He has shown a passion to win...hasnt led to W's yet but will.

Sure, he has made some crappy hiring / firing decisions but I don't think those were bad owner decisions but moreso a young and inexperienced owner.


That being said, I'd much rather have him than Randy Lerner. I'm under the impression that Haslam actually cares about the result and its important to him, that he takes pride in it. Seems like he wears his emotions on his sleeve sometimes, reminds me of myself or other fans.
Posted By: WhatCanBrownDo4U Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 05:57 AM
We finally won a game. I didn't even feel like a win with the way the team played, but a win is a win I guess. This team needed it in a worse way.

Going win-less this year would have been almost impossible with all the really bad teams, but I thought our team was going to do it. We just got lucky that SD's offense was horrid and Rivers played like crap and that the refs gave us all the extra help we needed.

The win was great, but even with this win you can see multiple glaring holes with this team. The main one is QB and we have nobody to build around. If we got Sunday's win with a guy like Wentz, then I would feel it would be something to build on and a year of experience. Next year, in all likelihood, we'll be starting all over at the position. That is, if we're lucky. Which means, we're just that much farther away from competing for anything.
Posted By: Thebigbaddawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 08:08 AM
I believe thats simply not true. You do not have to start a rebuild with a new QB in year one. If anything, im glad our QBOTF isnt playing behind this line, learning bad habits like Wentz is doing now.

That said, they have to hit on a QB next year, no matter who or where it comes from.
Posted By: candyman92 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 08:18 AM
Wentz is struggling in Philly. Do you think he'd be better here?
Posted By: ThatGuy Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 10:12 AM
If Went had been winless as the Browns QB until week 16 people on this board would of said he sucks and wanted everyone fired..

Wait..
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 10:38 AM
Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
If Went had been winless as the Browns QB until week 16 people on this board would of said he sucks and wanted everyone fired..

Wait..
brownie
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 10:39 AM
in all honesty, watching dak and zeke makes me wonder ... if we had drafted both of them, would they be anywhere near as successful? I actually doubt it
Posted By: Tulsa Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 12:35 PM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
in all honesty, watching dak and zeke makes me wonder ... if we had drafted both of them, would they be anywhere near as successful? I actually doubt it


We've allowed 62 sacks so far this season. Dallas, 25. Putting anyone behind this line is cruel and unusual punishment.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 03:36 PM
Originally Posted By: Thebigbaddawg
[quote=Versatile Dog]
Quote:
--Coleman is not playing very well. His routes are poor. He is not defining himself as well as some other rookie WRs. Did anyone watch Hill for KC last night? That dude makes you go "Wow." And our boy, Michael Thomas from Ohio State, is absolutely standing out as an excellent WR. The Saints drafted him in the second round.


I don't think it's fair to say this yet. For one, some WR'ers take longer to develop. Also, those two guys have significantly better QB's throwing them the ball. Hell, Brees is/should be a MVP candidate. Coleman has had RG3 and Kessler throwing him the ball. And lastly, his injury happened right after his best game of the season and took him out for an important part of the season.

From what I've seen, Coleman has his moments where he shows he can be a stud. He doesn't go down easy, he is a monster with the ball in his hands IMO. His route running is going to need work. And he needs to stay healthy. But I still think Coleman is going to be a hell of a player.


Read what I wrote again. Where did I say that this was a final evaluation? Please note the word tense. Do you see how they are in present tense?

It's more than fair.
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 03:37 PM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
in all honesty, watching dak and zeke makes me wonder ... if we had drafted both of them, would they be anywhere near as successful? I actually doubt it


I like you as a poster, but I hate when people keep making this point. What, we should not draft good players because they wouldn't be as good here? What the heck!!!

And I think Wentz is playing pretty damn good. This rhetoric that he is stinking the joint out is being made by people who don't watch the games.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 06:24 PM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
in all honesty, watching dak and zeke makes me wonder ... if we had drafted both of them, would they be anywhere near as successful? I actually doubt it


Maybe Zeke would have done great and our offense wouldn't have given up half the rushed throws, sacks, or hits to the QB causing alot of injuries and concussions. And Dak probably wouldn't have started a single game.

We can spin this about a gazillion ways. But why?
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 06:27 PM
You make a very valid point. People keep suggesting that getting great players would be a waste because of our OL.

That has to be one of the stupidest things I read on here! How is this team ever going to get better without better talent? You need good talent to compete. Let's say we do improve the OL. Will it help that much with Kessler in the pocket? Of course not. He is a very limited QB.

When all is said and done, without good talent to build around, you won't go far. Having those strong building blocks is the future of your teams core. Without them, you have nothing to build around.

I would take Zeke and Dak all day over some of the bone headed picks that are on this roster.

Each season you have to solidify needy positions on your roster. At least two positions must have defined answers. We can't seem to accomplish that. When we do have the picks to accomplish that, we either trade down or make terrible decisions.

Nothing will change if that continues.
Posted By: chirp30 Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 07:03 PM
Sign makers probably not as dumb as one would think, their sign did get alot of air time. Mission accomplished!!!
Posted By: Jester Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/27/16 10:09 PM
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
You make a very valid point. People keep suggesting that getting great players would be a waste because of our OL.



I don't believe that is what people mean when they say that. My interpretation is that people want to point out that you can not assume that players on other teams would have the same production here. I don't think anyone would say not to draft them. Just that here their numbers are unlikely to be as good.

I take nothing more nor anything less from it
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/28/16 05:43 PM
The reason I say this is because of the "yeah but" factor. ie.... "Yeah but if we would have drafted him he wouldn't have been as productive."

The "yeah but" factor makes it seem like some excuse. The fact is, you would still have that talent on your team. You would still have potential game changers at positions where we don't.

I guess we just perceive it a little differently.
Posted By: GratefulDawg Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/29/16 03:15 AM
WED DEC. 28, 2016

Browns Get One to Grow On





Inside an emotional scene in Cleveland, where Hue Jackson’s team closed the book on a dismal 2016 with a victory for its veteran leaders.




Today, I’ll take the top of my column today to report on the Cleveland Browns getting off the schneid.


When he took the field Sunday for Cleveland, all-pro left tackle Joe Thomas, the best player on the worst team in recent football history, was 3-32 in his previous 35 games. His coach, Hue Jackson, was 0-14 in his rookie year with the Browns.


“I’m sure people would look at you funny if you told them, here we were, 0-14, with nothing to play for that people would see, and everybody thinking we’re going 0-16, and we really wanted to win this game badly,” Thomas said from Cleveland on Tuesday afternoon. “This was something really important to the people on this team, the people on the coaching staff and front office, and the people in this city. In 10 years, when I’m gone from this game, I’ll look back and wonder, Why was I so emotional back on that day in 2016 when we played San Diego? You just had to be in the stadium Sunday to feel it. You had to be in our locker room. The fans just wanted a win so bad. So did we.”


During the week before taking the field against 5-10 San Diego, Jackson acknowledged he thought of the obvious. “This was our shot,” he said. “We couldn’t be going to Pittsburgh with them needing to win to make the playoffs or for seeding and … ” He didn’t have to finish. Jackson’s an NFL veteran. The Browns weren’t going to Pittsburgh and pulling a Buster Douglas on Mike Tyson. They had to beat San Diego.


The night before the game, in a downtown hotel, Jackson told his players this was their last opportunity to play together in Cleveland, as Browns. He told them things would change, big time, in the off-season. He told them that for Joe Thomas and Andrew Hawkins and Gary Barnidge and Joe Haden and for Tramon Williams, veterans who did things the right way, the young guys needed to win this game.


“We owe it to those guys,” Jackson told his team.



Then Jackson sat by himself in his room, for 20, 30, 40 minutes, looking at the game plan. “I looked at it 20 times at least,” Jackson told me after the game. “I sat there knowing we had a good plan to win, and thinking we were 0-14, and going back to all the different games we played, how many ways we’d lost. But this week, I felt really good about our plan. Mostly, I felt good about our players. They just worked. They never mailed it in. My ending scenario had us winning.”


But his ending scenario usually did.



When Jackson walked onto the field for warmups Saturday, Christmas Eve, he saw the signs. We Believe in Hue.And In Hue We Trust.What fans, he thought. He felt a different energy in warmups, from his players and the fans who showed up. The team built a 20-17 lead with six minutes left in the third quarter and hung on desperately. Cleveland had the ball five more times, trying to buttress the lead. And the Browns quarterback—first Robert Griffin III, then Cody Kessler—was sacked once on the first drive, twice on the second, and then once each on the third, fourth and fifth drives. Hanging on. Desperately hanging on. With 3:49 to play, the Chargers lined up for a 32-yard field goal. The Browns’ nose man on the rush team, Jamie Meder, played college football at nearby Ashland College. Meder grew up in the very blue-collar Cleveland suburb of Parma.




Meder pushed past the Charger center, and then the right guard, and stuck his right arm straight up in the air.


THUMP.


“You hear that thump,” Jackson said, “and you think, ‘Something good is happening to this football team.”


As Thomas said after the game: “The ‘Pierogi Prince of Parma’ does it again. That man is awesome. He is one of my favorites. I think he is playing in the polka band here this weekend on Christmas Day so if you guys get a chance, go out and watch him. He is the accordion player.”


“So fitting a guy from here makes the play,” said Jackson. “So fitting that a guy who does nothing but whatever’s best for the team—plays out of position, plays anywhere—makes the play of the game.”


Afterward, Jackson was asked what he said to Meder. “ ‘Great job!’” he said. “So many other things I wanted to say to him, I needed to say to him, I wished I’d said to him. But what do you think of at that moment, after the biggest play?”


It was a blur after the game. Jackson tried to say something to his team, but choked up after, “I told you guys about the veteran players, okay,” … and then couldn’t get anything else out. Thomas, weeping, stood next to Jackson as Barnidge stepped up with a game ball. “For sticking with us for the whole year … hasn’t been the way we wanted … but this one’s for you, Coach,” the vet tight end said.



Somebody yelled “MERRY CHRISTMAS COACH” and then there was a scrum around Jackson. Thomas hugged Jackson.


“I love you, Joe,” Jackson said.


“I love you too, coach,” Thomas said.


Jackson had a 15-second embrace with GM Sashi Brown. Jackson hugged half the locker room, and owner Jimmy Haslam. Jackson said this is what it’s supposed to feel like.


“Hopefully,” Jackson said, “what we did is a glimpse of what the future should be and could be. And will be.”


The most interesting thing about my conversation Tuesday with Thomas: He realized one of the truly important things about this first win. “We didn’t lose the first overall draft pick, because San Francisco won too,” Thomas said.


Now there’s a man who understands the real purpose of the season, after the Browns’ year all went so south. Draft season is pretty important in northeast Ohio. If the standings don’t change between now and Sunday night, the Browns will hold the first and 10th overall picks in the first round when the draft kicks off April 27 in Philadelphia. It’s almost 2017, and hope springs eternal in Cleveland—whether there’s reason for it or not.

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Posted By: edromeo Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 12/30/16 05:11 PM
oh I forgot...Seth Devalve showed a lot of heart and desire going up for that seam pass
Posted By: Spergon FTWynn Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 01/01/17 02:02 AM
Didn't get a chance to add anything after the game, because I was out of town for Christmas, but wow what a finish. So glad to see these guys get a win.

It means nothing, and in fact, it almost cost us an overall pick (thanks SF), but if you saw the video in the locker room, it meant a lot to those guys to get their coach a win.

It's been a crappy year, we still have our annual last game pounding against the Steelers, and there are a lot of guys on this team who have no business being first on the depth chart, but I really hope the ownership and front office stays firm on their faith in Hue Jackson. I believe he can coach. I know there has been some questionable play calling from him at times this year, but when you just don't have the players, and are constantly playing from behind, you're probably going to call plays that look awful. It's simply how the league works. You tend to look worse when you chase, and the Browns are pretty much always chasing.

I do see a lot of positives with some of the young guys in this group. I love our tandem of running backs. I still see some potential with Corey Coleman. I really like the way Ogbah plays. I think Kirksey is a legitimate starter.

Best thing of all, that stupid parade got canceled. This was dumb stunt put together by people who only wanted twitter followers, and dolled it up by offering to donate proceeds to charity.
Posted By: Dave Re: Post Game Thoughts!! - 01/01/17 12:13 PM
Quote:
... and dolled it up by offering to donate proceeds to charity.


The parade organizer ended up donating over $10,000 to the Cleveland Food Bank, and in a pretty classy gesture, the Browns matched that donation to the Food Bank.
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