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Posted By: mgh888 Hunter Biden - 10/06/22 10:30 PM
I went back 3 pages and didn't see an open Hunter thread, and I think this probably is deserving of a thread to itself.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63166809

Hunter Biden could be charged with tax crimes

The FBI has gathered enough evidence to charge Hunter Biden with tax crimes and making a false statement to buy a gun, according to the BBC's US partner CBS News.

President Joe Biden's son has been under federal investigation since 2018.

The decision on whether to file criminal charges now rests with the US Attorney in Delaware.

A lawyer for Hunter said he had not been contacted by federal agents. He has repeatedly denied breaking the law.

The US Department of Justice has declined to comment.

Hunter Biden, 52, is a lawyer and lobbyist who has worked abroad including in China and Ukraine.

According to the Washington Post, federal agents began investigating him in 2018, and initially centred on finances related to his overseas businesses and consulting.

Over time, the investigation began to focus on whether Hunter properly reported his income and made false statements on paperwork used to purchase a firearm in 2018.

In a book published last year he had admitted to still being a heavy user of crack cocaine at that time. But the Washington Post reports that he said "no" on a federal form asking if he was "an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug or any other controlled substance".

Criminal charges stemming from falsehoods on gun-purchase forms remain rare and number in the hundreds each year.

Tell-all renews scrutiny of President Biden's son
What was Hunter Biden doing in China and Ukraine?
In a statement sent to CBS, a lawyer for the president's son said that he expected the Department of Justice to "diligently investigate and prosecute" those who leaked information about the investigation.

"As is proper and legally required, we believe the prosecutors in this case are diligently and thoroughly weighing not just evidence provided by agents, but also all the other witnesses in this case, including witnesses for the defence," the statement from lawyer Chris Clark said.

"That is the job of the prosecutors. They should not be pressured, rushed, or criticised for doing their job."

Mr Clark added that he has had no contact "whatsoever" with any federal investigators. He said any information from agents, which was cited by the Washington Post which first reported the story, was "inherently biased, one-sided, and inaccurate".

Hunter Biden has long been a target of scrutiny by former President Donald Trump and his political allies, who have alleged that his overseas business dealings indicate a pattern of corruption.

While the younger Biden has admitted to a troubled life and a previous "massive drug addiction", both he and President Biden have denied that he engaged in illegal activity.

He first admitted knowledge of an investigation in December 2020. In a statement at the time, Hunter Biden said he was "confident that a professional and objective review of these matters will demonstrate that I handled my affairs legally and appropriately, with the benefit of professional tax advisers."

In April, Joe Biden's chief of staff, Ron Klain, said the US president "is confident that his son didn't break the law" but that the matter would be left to the Justice Department and that the White House would not get involved.

The news of potential charges against Hunter, however, comes at a politically sensitive time for President Biden with just under a month to go until the 2022 US midterm elections.
Posted By: mgh888 Re: Hunter Biden - 10/06/22 10:33 PM
Unlike the Trump sycophants I am pretty certain that every poster who has expressed support for Joe Biden - even if it was merely as a reaction to Trump - will be 100% behind the investigation and prosecution of Hunter or any other Joe Biden ally if they have broken laws.
Posted By: Jester Re: Hunter Biden - 10/06/22 10:48 PM
I am a firm believer in, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
If guilty then he needs what ever the standard punishment is for that crime.
Jail or re-pay with interest, whatever is standard.
Nothing more, nothing less
Posted By: Swish Re: Hunter Biden - 10/06/22 10:48 PM
yea if he committed crimes, investigate and throw him in prison if found guilty. i dont know anybody who defended Hunter, only GOPers acting like we are.

but one of the reasons why nobody is talking about hunter biden like that is because GOP found out that it's not an effective rallying cry for the conservative base. their own people dont even care like that.

and then dont get me started on that movie Breitbart hyped up. they managed to make a trash bum like Hunter Biden look cool as hell. dude was the very toxic alpha they're always saying is being canceled. dude is literally Andrew Tate, who the right wing defend non-stop. good job owning the libs, i guess.
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Hunter Biden - 10/07/22 01:12 AM
If he’s guilty, I hope he gets the book thrown at him.
Posted By: jaybird Re: Hunter Biden - 10/07/22 02:12 AM
Originally Posted by dawglover05
If he’s guilty, I hope he gets the book thrown at him.

If Joe is still in office by the time Hunter gets tried/convicted (if that happens)... my guess is Joe pardons him...
Posted By: dawglover05 Re: Hunter Biden - 10/07/22 04:55 AM
Precedent for such pardons has been set unfortunately. Pardons for worse crimes than this, for those close to the president.

I don’t think he would but I would be extremely upset if he did.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 10/07/22 05:05 AM
If they have actual evidence and it's not part of the conspiracy theories charge him.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 10/07/22 05:06 AM
Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by dawglover05
If he’s guilty, I hope he gets the book thrown at him.

If Joe is still in office by the time Hunter gets tried/convicted (if that happens)... my guess is Joe pardons him...

Would you pardon your son? I know Donny would pardon his kids. Is it right? No. Is it allowed? Yes.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 10/07/22 03:07 PM
I believe that if he broke the law he should be prosecuted. I'm not really concerned about what the FBI has to say about it per say. The decision rests on whether a prosecutor feels the case is strong enough to press charges and take it to court just like every other case. If a prosecutor feels there is enough evidence to take the case to court let the chips fall where they may.

But here's a prediction either way. I'm pretty sure the GOP will take the senate in November. Watch a GOP controlled senate appoint a councel or special investigation to do everything they can to try to connect the president with these crimes no matter the fact there appears to be nothing that indicates it's true.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Hunter Biden - 10/08/22 01:13 AM
there was a tax liability that Hunter Biden was responsible for., He has paid it. But he an still be charged with tax fraud if the IRS decides to do so .. just like if you and I did it.
Posted By: WooferDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 10/09/22 03:04 PM
Hunter Biden could be charged with tax fraud…:???

Donald Trump could be charged with tax fraud….:???

Anyone could be charged with tax fraud.

Write the article when there is actual news to report.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Hunter Biden - 10/10/22 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I believe that if he broke the law he should be prosecuted. I'm not really concerned about what the FBI has to say about it per say. The decision rests on whether a prosecutor feels the case is strong enough to press charges and take it to court just like every other case. If a prosecutor feels there is enough evidence to take the case to court let the chips fall where they may.

But here's a prediction either way. I'm pretty sure the GOP will take the senate in November. Watch a GOP controlled senate appoint a councel or special investigation to do everything they can to try to connect the president with these crimes no matter the fact there appears to be nothing that indicates it's true.


I agree.
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 11/22/22 06:22 PM
CBS did an independent study and determined Hunter really had a laptop!!
Posted By: BADdog Re: Hunter Biden - 11/22/22 06:57 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
CBS did an independent study and determined Hunter really had a laptop!!


Oh my god I have a laptop, am I in trouble????
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 11/22/22 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by BADdog
Originally Posted by FATE
CBS did an independent study and determined Hunter really had a laptop!!


Oh my god I have a laptop, am I in trouble????

Don't worry, it will take two years for them to find it -- even if you hand it to them. thumbsup
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 02:28 AM
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 03:02 AM
This Hunter Biden Twitter dump is crazy and scary.

I can't believe they just named names and released screen shots of emails of these people suppressing information because they didn't want a repeat of 2016.


Elon is the best thing that could have happened for the 60% of us Americans.
Posted By: PortlandDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 03:19 AM
Good thing Hunter wasn’t on the Democratic ticket in 2016… that said I’d still vote for Hunter Biden over donny to this day.
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 05:23 AM
Originally Posted by PortlandDawg
Good thing Hunter wasn’t on the Democratic ticket in 2016… that said I’d still vote for Hunter Biden over donny to this day.

Somehow people are trying to make it about Biden or Trump.

The biggest issue has to do with government/politicians and tech firms collusion.






Posted By: BADdog Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 05:39 AM
I am more interested in where Don junior gets his coke from.
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 06:01 AM
The point I was making was not about either D or R. it was that these politicians/ govt officials have too much control and are blatently manipulating people.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 03:47 PM
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
Elon is the best thing that could have happened for the 60% of us Americans.

Both the election of 2020 and 2022 prove convincingly this is false.
Posted By: SuperBrown Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 03:52 PM
Should be in jail and his father too.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 04:17 PM
Originally Posted by SuperBrown
Should be in jail and his father too.

Yes Don Jr. and the Donald should both be in jail.
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 09:45 PM
j/c:

What did the President know and when did he know it? Musk releases Hunter Biden laptop files that reveal Twitter execs replied 'handled' to requests from 'Biden team' and DNC to delete tweets just ten days after scandal broke

-Elon Musk has said that Twitter was acting on the orders of the Biden campaign when it censored stories on Hunter Biden's laptop
-Journalist Matt Taibbi Friday began publishing the internal Twitter documents
-Taibbi conducted his probe with the cooperation of new Twitter chief Elon Musk
-Emails showed staffers censoring tweets at the behest of the Joe Biden's team
-His campaign made requests for tweets to be taken down - and Twitter complied

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Hunter-Biden-laptop-story.html#comments
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/03/22 10:16 PM
Interestiner and interestiner. Nothing to see here, folks. The dem's thought they had it covered up.
Posted By: 3rd_and_20 Re: Hunter Biden - 12/05/22 12:23 PM
Elon Musk slams liberal media for 'deceiving the American public' and 'not being truthful' by ignoring the Hunter Biden laptop story as they set about smearing Matt Taibbi for his Twitter Files expose of censorship

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...eiving-American-public-not-truthful.html
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/05/22 03:10 PM
Oh the terror! LMAO, the 'Twitter files' is a nonsensical post by Matt Taibbi. Nonsensical in that BOTH SIDES DO IT, and there is no there, there. Trump just disappeared anything that made him look bad, paying off pornstars, threatening lawsuits against schools who might share his grades, lying about his taxes, etc. Meanwhile, Biden's team went through normal channels of communication with the social media giant and left a paper trail. File this under BIG WHOOP.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Hunter Biden - 12/05/22 07:16 PM
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Posted By: Damanshot Re: Hunter Biden - 12/06/22 04:15 PM
I'm not saying Hunter Biden is an angel.. To be honest, I don't know much about him.

But for any group of people to want his hide on a spit but who allow a former President to go free after he stole Top Secret documents and kept them in his home and who also incited an insurrection against the USA and who now wants to rip up the constitution have their heads up their collective Arses.

This is gonna end up a lot like the Hillary Clinton debacle. How much time did Hillary spend in prison? Idiots.. Flaming Jack Arses..

At least when they went after Trump there was a real life smoking gun and if not for blind political loyalty to Trump, he'd have been removed from office.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Hunter Biden - 12/06/22 04:18 PM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Interestiner and interestiner. Nothing to see here, folks. The dem's thought they had it covered up.

If he's found Guilty, convict him,, But until Trump supporters and Republicans and Conservatives and The Like figure out how wrong it is to support a man that has turned this countries election process into a joke and who incited an insurrection and who not thinks we should cut the constitution,,, then you have no room to talk.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/06/22 04:28 PM
For years they have stayed silent about trump paying off a porn star, saying he can grab women by the pu$$y, cheating on all three of his wives, undermining, and now even saying the constitution should be ignored, inciting a mob to attack the Capital and the list goes on.

But seem so upset over Hunter's laptop? My what an odd little bunch they are.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Hunter Biden - 12/06/22 04:36 PM
Lol….If there was anything on the laptop that was incriminating, it would have been all over the internet by now. They’ll parrot the same line they did with Hillary. Where are the missing personal emails? Lol
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Hunter Biden - 12/06/22 04:37 PM
J/C The thread topic is Hunter Biden. Some try to stay on topic, some try to steer away.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Hunter Biden - 12/06/22 04:40 PM
rofl

https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-adu...attorney-general-for-fraud-/6757056.html

Former U.S. President Donald Trump, his global family business and three of his adult children were accused Wednesday by the New York state attorney general of engaging in a “staggering” fraud for more than a decade by overvaluing their assets by billions of dollars to enrich themselves
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/06/22 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
J/C The thread topic is Hunter Biden. Some try to stay on topic, some try to steer away.

You are only talking about this thread, right?
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 04:25 AM
Hunter Biden is just DJT Jr. with less weirdness and drugs. And Hunter Biden is a complete weirdo junkie.

If they had been raised together, they would be the same person, but better families make better kids, even when they are lost in their own BS. And make no mistake, they are both crooks and losers.
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 05:28 AM
Sad. Sad little man you are. What about what about what about. Don jr. is weirder than hunter? And uses more drugs? Must be nice in your pot enhanced life.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 06:26 AM
Trump supporter.
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 06:36 AM
Facts remain: Hunter Biden got a job he had no business getting. He had no knowledge of that business. He brought others to meet "the big guy", meanwhile, he's a druggie. And all you can say is "trump supporter".

Shed's a lot of light on you.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 11:59 AM
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 12:03 PM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Sad. Sad little man you are. What about what about what about. Don jr. is weirder than hunter? And uses more drugs? Must be nice in your pot enhanced life.


How can you support a party that has a leader who supports a racist, loving Hitler and steals top secret and secret documents.. Explain that
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 12:07 PM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Facts remain: Hunter Biden got a job he had no business getting. He had no knowledge of that business. He brought others to meet "the big guy", meanwhile, he's a druggie. And all you can say is "trump supporter".

Shed's a lot of light on you.

Who cares..Tell me about Trump stealing docs, inciting an insurrection...
Posted By: Jester Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 02:31 PM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Facts remain: Hunter Biden got a job he had no business getting. He had no knowledge of that business.

A lot of people get jobs they are not qualified for and have no business getting. Nothing illegal or immoral about seizing the opportunityh



Originally Posted by archbolddawg
He brought others to meet "the big guy"
1st, is this a fact? It could be. I have not seen that this actually happened.
If you did please share because I would love to read it - said in earnest not to be snarky.

2nd, if we assume this did happen, is that illegal?

3rd, how does any of this mean anything about President Biden?
I have not heard even a suggestion that President Biden was influenced at all in any decision. Not even what socks he wore let alone anything of national importance.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 07:29 PM
Originally Posted by Jester
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Facts remain: Hunter Biden got a job he had no business getting. He had no knowledge of that business.

A lot of people get jobs they are not qualified for and have no business getting. Nothing illegal or immoral about seizing the opportunityh



Originally Posted by archbolddawg
He brought others to meet "the big guy"
1st, is this a fact? It could be. I have not seen that this actually happened.
If you did please share because I would love to read it - said in earnest not to be snarky.

2nd, if we assume this did happen, is that illegal?

3rd, how does any of this mean anything about President Biden?
I have not heard even a suggestion that President Biden was influenced at all in any decision. Not even what socks he wore let alone anything of national importance.

Please stop posting common sense, reason, and fact. lil heads explode into ugliness here.
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 08:27 PM
If you haven't heard about it, it's because of 1 of 2 things, or maybe both. 1. the msm hid it for a couple of years, and/or 2. You chose to not read the little that was out there.

"Biden business partner Tony Bobulinski, who was brought in to structure the deal, publicly identified “the Big Guy” as Joe Biden when the emails came to light in the run up to the 2020 election."

Link: https://news.yahoo.com/hunter-biden-grand-jury-witness-140305395.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

https://nypost.com/2022/04/04/hunte...-deal-with-chinese-firm-and-the-big-guy/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ss-asked-about-big-guy-report/ar-AAVRh5s

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12952604/source-claims-joe-biden-is-big-guy-in-hunter-emails-leak/

https://wearechange.org/10-for-the-...r-bidens-china-ukraine-emails-are-legit/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ate-referred-Big-Guy-SECOND-message.html
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 09:20 PM
All accusations with no real evidence of any crimes committed…then we have this….


https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/06/politics/trump-organization-fraud-trial-verdict/index.html

A Manhattan jury has found two Trump Organization companies guilty on multiple charges of criminal tax fraud and falsifying business records connected to a 15-year scheme to defraud tax authorities by failing to report and pay taxes on compensation for top executives.

14 years in prison is the going rate on this crime. We shall see.
Posted By: Jester Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 09:53 PM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
If you haven't heard about it, it's because of 1 of 2 things, or maybe both. 1. the msm hid it for a couple of years, and/or 2. You chose to not read the little that was out there.

"Biden business partner Tony Bobulinski, who was brought in to structure the deal, publicly identified “the Big Guy” as Joe Biden when the emails came to light in the run up to the 2020 election."

Link: https://news.yahoo.com/hunter-biden-grand-jury-witness-140305395.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

https://nypost.com/2022/04/04/hunte...-deal-with-chinese-firm-and-the-big-guy/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ss-asked-about-big-guy-report/ar-AAVRh5s

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12952604/source-claims-joe-biden-is-big-guy-in-hunter-emails-leak/

https://wearechange.org/10-for-the-...r-bidens-china-ukraine-emails-are-legit/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ate-referred-Big-Guy-SECOND-message.html



1st, I don't listen to MSNBC
2nd, those are all essentially the same article published in different places - a single story

3rd, my buddies and I are going to rob a bank. we are going to hold 10 for Arch.
You are now complicit in our crime
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/08/22 10:19 PM
Figures you'd say that.
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/20/22 01:11 PM
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 12/20/22 02:47 PM
So the FBI and Intelligence Community started having weekly meetings with Twitter for a full year before the election (the entire time they had the laptop).

And during that entire year they warned of "hack and leak operations" leading up to the election that "may involve Hunter Biden".

And during that entire year, the original, 100% factual, story by the NY Post was sequestered in nearly every social media outlet and not even allowed to be shared in private messages!


More conspiracy theory, Pit??
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 12/20/22 02:49 PM



rofl rofl rofl
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/20/22 06:26 PM
I'm sure happy people weren't foolish enough to elect this guy president.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Hunter Biden - 12/20/22 06:28 PM
Arch, these are, as yet, unproven.. But, if he's found to have committed crimes, presidents son or not, he's got to face the music.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/20/22 06:30 PM
I don't think arch is jumping to any conclusions no matter how much it may sound like it. He's all for letting the legal process play out first.
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 12/20/22 06:39 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I'm sure happy people weren't foolish enough to elect this guy president.

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Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/20/22 07:00 PM
I do find it odd that the director of the FBI was appointed by Trump and people seem to indicate that Joe Biden had something to do with this.
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 12:49 AM
Ahhhh...

Six degrees of Donald Trump.

Trump buried the Hunter Biden story so Joe could beat him in the election. thumbsup
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 01:21 AM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I do find it odd that the director of the FBI was appointed by Trump and people seem to indicate that Joe Biden had something to do with this.


I'm about 98% sure we could have a video (since we have email evidence with proof Russian was a hoax) showing how the FBI/DOH/Twitter were the ones colluding together and you try to distract the conversation to somehow include Trump in it.
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 01:29 AM
The worst part of all of this is the report about Hunter was shut down, called russian mis information, etc. Until now, when the story - the original story, is proving to have teeth.

Drug addict son of a v.p, then later president, get's a job from a foreign country in a field he knows nothing about and makes millions doing it. But, that's not news according to the liberal media.
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 12:04 PM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
The worst part of all of this is the report about Hunter was shut down, called russian mis information, etc. Until now, when the story - the original story, is proving to have teeth.

Drug addict son of a v.p, then later president, get's a job from a foreign country in a field he knows nothing about and makes millions doing it. But, that's not news according to the liberal media.

Especially the part about the "Big Guy".

The FBI needs a total makeover. It is the enforcement wing of the democratic party much like the media is the propaganda wing.
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 02:39 PM
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
The worst part of all of this is the report about Hunter was shut down, called russian mis information, etc. Until now, when the story - the original story, is proving to have teeth.

Drug addict son of a v.p, then later president, get's a job from a foreign country in a field he knows nothing about and makes millions doing it. But, that's not news according to the liberal media.

Especially the part about the "Big Guy".

The FBI needs a total makeover. It is the enforcement wing of the democratic party much like the media is the propaganda wing.

How does this happen? This is the part I can't wrap my mind around. What kind of coordinated effort does it take to put the FBI, pretty much all of big tech and the entire media not named Fox in your back pocket??
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 04:35 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
The worst part of all of this is the report about Hunter was shut down, called russian mis information, etc. Until now, when the story - the original story, is proving to have teeth.

Drug addict son of a v.p, then later president, get's a job from a foreign country in a field he knows nothing about and makes millions doing it. But, that's not news according to the liberal media.

Especially the part about the "Big Guy".

The FBI needs a total makeover. It is the enforcement wing of the democratic party much like the media is the propaganda wing.

How does this happen? This is the part I can't wrap my mind around. What kind of coordinated effort does it take to put the FBI, pretty much all of big tech and the entire media not named Fox in your back pocket??


Easy... CNN is basically refusing to cover anything regarding the Twitter files so... 50% won't believe it is true.

https://www.cnn.com/search?q=Twitte...p;sort=newest&types=all&section=
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 05:08 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
Ahhhh...

Six degrees of Donald Trump.

Trump buried the Hunter Biden story so Joe could beat him in the election. thumbsup

Trump isn't that smart. It always takes less than six degrees. So let me get your story straight. Are you saying that Trump appointed Christopher Wray as the FBI director and he was somehow brainwashed into helping Joe Biden cover up the story on Hunter Biden?
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 05:09 PM
And 50% will believe it's true because they read it on Twitter and the media they choose to follow tries to blow up a story from Twitter.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 07:11 PM
'More insinuation than evidence': Columnist tears apart Elon Musk's 'Twitter Files'

For the past few weeks, tech billionaire Elon Musk has been partnering up with willing reporters to disseminate what he calls the "Twitter Files" — a series of emails and memoranda that purports to reveal how Twitter partnered with federal law enforcement to silence Republicans and various conservative causes on the platform. One of the biggest sore spots has been how a New York Post story on Hunter Biden's laptop was suppressed as "disinformation" in 2020 — which turned out to be in error.

That being said, wrote columnist Philip Bump from The Washington Post, the documents revealed in the "Twitter Files" don't actually show nefarious intent of any sort.

Rather, they show a good-faith reaction to Russian disinformation and strategically timed leaks from hacked material against Hillary Clinton in 2016, interfering with the election and leading to years of criminal investigations ,and criticism of the insufficient content moderation policies of social media platforms.

"The presidential election had been tainted — perhaps only slightly, but tainted nonetheless — by a hostile foreign actor. It worked because it effectively leveraged American information-sharing systems, including social media sites. As a result, social media companies began implementing more tools aimed at uprooting or disrupting misinformation," wrote Bump. "This context is critical for understanding what happened in 2020. By then, companies like Twitter had (imperfect) systems in place aimed at shutting down false claims or abusive behavior. They and federal law enforcement were on the lookout for efforts by Russia or other foreign powers to interfere with the presidential race once again."

"That never manifested, at least not in 2020. Instead, two years later, hostile actors pored over a cache of emails to create a damaging narrative more tangentially linked to politics," wrote Bump. "[Musk] wants to reinforce the sense on the right that government actors in the 'Deep State' conspire with the American left to hold power. What’s been presented to date doesn’t show what is alleged by Musk and the writers tasked with picking cherries from Twitter’s email archives. What the actual evidence shows, instead, is an often ad hoc response to what happened in 2016, a response that is at times kludgey or dubious but not one that obviously shows a federal institution trying to reshape an election outcome."

"Information about Twitter’s decision to block sharing of the Post story — a decision quickly reversed — has been published in caches by writers working with Musk," wrote Bump. However, with regard to the idea this was a malicious move to censor conservatives, "he doesn’t have evidence to that effect. The Post’s story is headlined, 'FBI pressured Twitter, sent trove of docs hours before Post broke Hunter laptop story,' capturing the intended narrative. What Shellenberger shows, though, is that the FBI sent documents to Twitter the evening before the first story about the laptop was published — but not what those documents said or even what they dealt with. It’s all insinuation: Hunter Biden’s team had learned about the soon-to-be-released story (as evidenced by an email sent to the repair-shop owner) and, a few hours later, the FBI sent something to Twitter. That’s it."

"The worry isn’t that Musk might nonetheless believe the story he’s presenting the world," concluded Bump. "It’s that so many other people, unable to know what’s being withheld or unable to take the time to understand the fuller context, are eager to believe it too."

https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-twitter-files/
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 07:50 PM
Among many things wrong with this article, it incorrectly and perhaps intentionally focuses on Twitter as the abused, as opposed to the government's intentions as the larger issue here. I could possibly believe an argument that some Twitter employees were naive, and easily coerced due to political leanings (I doubt certain heads were, but whatever) to do something the government said was important, thus not necessarily being nefarious. That's COMPLETELY different from the actions of federal agencies and their nefarious intentions.....the main issue in this whole debacle.

The article from Raw Story (first I've heard of this outlet) is a deflection. A terrible one at that.
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by FATE
Ahhhh...

Six degrees of Donald Trump.

Trump buried the Hunter Biden story so Joe could beat him in the election. thumbsup

Trump isn't that smart. It always takes less than six degrees. So let me get your story straight. Are you saying that Trump appointed Christopher Wray as the FBI director and he was somehow brainwashed into helping Joe Biden cover up the story on Hunter Biden?

Not at all. That's just your feeble attempt at erecting goalposts where none exist. It's one thing to move them, but, pheww... you're getting pretty creative here. You divert as well as the Dem party -- you should see if they need any new recruits!

Go on and get your LWL if you think I'm going to argue about who appointed the director of the FBI.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 08:18 PM
There is no argument to be made. The theory you propose is that somehow a Trump appointed head of the FBI worked with the Biden administration to silence Republicans and was involved in some mythical conspiracy to cover up the Hunter Biden story. Attacking me won't change that.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 08:27 PM
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
The article from Raw Story (first I've heard of this outlet) is a deflection. A terrible one at that.

It's actually a story that originated on Washington Post. It actually states that along with the author in the story I posted. But the Washington Post is a pay site. Using this source as a legal workaround to gain the story without being forced to pay for the content is what I did.

And it's only a deflection for those than wish to see it as such. We all know the "Twitter files" are only showing what they want you to see. We all know there are many documents that are not being revealed that may show the actual context of what we are being shown. But let's just ignore all of that and label it as a deflection.
Posted By: MemphisBrownie Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 08:43 PM
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We all know the "Twitter files" are only showing what they want you to see. We all know there are many documents that are not being revealed that may show the actual context of what we are being shown. But let's just ignore all of that and label it as a deflection.

I thought you called out conspiracy theories, not manufactured them!
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 08:45 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
The article from Raw Story (first I've heard of this outlet) is a deflection. A terrible one at that.

It's actually a story that originated on Washington Post. It actually states that along with the author in the story I posted. But the Washington Post is a pay site. Using this source as a legal workaround to gain the story without being forced to pay for the content is what I did.

And it's only a deflection for those than wish to see it as such. We all know the "Twitter files" are only showing what they want you to see. We all know there are many documents that are not being revealed that may show the actual context of what we are being shown. But let's just ignore all of that and label it as a deflection.

rofl rofl

If there were 45 million files and documents. "Well, we know there has to be more; so we're not getting the whole story".

If we have the murder weapon, DNA evidence, witnesses and fingerprints; Pit would say he needs to review the dental records. lmao
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 09:22 PM
The saddest part is, it was whitewashed by the msm for too long. But now, even the msm is saying "hey, looks like there's something here" Years later.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Hunter Biden - 12/21/22 10:48 PM
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Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 01:33 AM
Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
The worst part of all of this is the report about Hunter was shut down, called russian mis information, etc. Until now, when the story - the original story, is proving to have teeth.

Drug addict son of a v.p, then later president, get's a job from a foreign country in a field he knows nothing about and makes millions doing it. But, that's not news according to the liberal media.

Especially the part about the "Big Guy".

The FBI needs a total makeover. It is the enforcement wing of the democratic party much like the media is the propaganda wing.

How does this happen? This is the part I can't wrap my mind around. What kind of coordinated effort does it take to put the FBI, pretty much all of big tech and the entire media not named Fox in your back pocket??

Common sense, that's why. Obviously, you wouldn't get it.

The world knows when you want something effective you get Dems, if you want loud and distracting, you get GOPers.
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 02:05 AM
Well that sums it all up in one incoherent splurge of nothingness.


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Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 02:18 AM
Most of his posts are nothingness.
Posted By: superbowldogg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 02:29 AM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Most of his posts are nothingness.


They like to post memes a lot... it's the new liberal news.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 04:40 PM
We post memes to communicate with people who act like memes.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 04:42 PM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Most of his posts are nothingness.

While yours are all historically relevant and of utmost importance... rolleyes Stalkers be stalkin' and trolls be trolling.
Posted By: OldColdDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
Well that sums it all up in one incoherent splurge of nothingness.


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I can't help that you struggle with your native language.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 05:44 PM
Originally Posted by FATE
If we have the murder weapon, DNA evidence, witnesses and fingerprints; Pit would say he needs to review the dental records. lmao

Only you don't have any of that. Laughing at yourself should be your goal as of now.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 05:46 PM
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Most of his posts are nothingness.

Like this one?
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
They like to post memes a lot... it's the new liberal news.

Like the one's Fate posts? I see you only call out the memes you don't like.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
They like to post memes a lot... it's the new liberal news.

Like the one's Fate posts? I see you only call out the memes you don't like.

Just like Putin does. SB must be a communist.
Posted By: archbolddawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/22/22 08:44 PM
Nah. Calling out the media that buries things they don't like.
Posted By: WooferDawg Re: Hunter Biden - 12/23/22 04:03 AM
Hunter Biden is a private citizen and do what he damn well pleases as long as it is not illegal.

Same rules apply to Ivanka, Don Jr., and Eric Trump.

They were not the first kids to cash in on their parents name and won’t be the last.

It is a tale as old as time.
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 12/23/22 02:38 PM
Then call all of the media out because if you think both sides don't do that you're being naive.
Posted By: PerfectSpiral Re: Hunter Biden - 01/23/23 06:06 PM
Surprise …no Hunter Biden conspiracy theories since last year, as they now prosecute and hang the big guy. Lol
Posted By: FATE Re: Hunter Biden - 01/23/23 06:19 PM
The laptop was a conspiracy theory?

Did Trump plant it at the repair shop??
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Hunter Biden - 01/23/23 06:30 PM
OMG! Hunter owns a laptop! Oh the humanity!
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