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#1695701 - 11/18/19 12:46 PM Re: Next man up [Re: PrplPplEater]
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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
The shame is that Garrett destroyed the Steelers LT in this game. It will be hard to get anything like that same amount of pressure without him in the lineup.


Like Sheldon Richardson and Ogunjobi crushing the middle of their line where Pouncey won't be??


Garrett was playing on another level during that Steelers game. Arguments aside about how he should be playing week in and week out, I noticed him A LOT in that last game. I'll feel a lot better about our Dline if we can get Vernon back, but as you say, Richardson and Ogunjobi will also have to have a similarly spectacular game.
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#1695703 - 11/18/19 12:47 PM Re: Next man up [Re: OldColdDawg]
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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
So our Dline for the Miami game will be:

Chad Thomas
Devaroe Lawrence
Sheldon Richardson
Chris Smith

Eli Ankou and Brian Cox are backups, with Larry Ogunjobi coming back the following week. Olivier Vernon is nursing a sprained knee and his return date is an unknown.

I think we will be okay on the Dline when Vernon and Ogunjobi return. Hopefully Vernon is back before the Pitt game. Until then it's a weakness. Fitzmagic might have all day to pass without a lot of CB/Safety blitzing.

Our cornerbacks are in good shape moving forward, but it looks like we've lost starting safety Morgan Burnett for the season and Eric Murray is injured as well. Luckily Damarious Randall was not suspended because we are super thin at safety as is.

All in all losing Garrett for the season hurts but I think we can survive and still win several games down the stretch with the offense seemingly coming into its own a little each week.

I'm still optimistic going down the stretch. Every game is winnable IMHO.
Hopefully Vernon gets right.

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#1695705 - 11/18/19 12:55 PM Re: Next man up [Re: willitevachange]
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According to the injury report, neither Vernon nor Murray practiced last week.
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#1695864 - 11/19/19 08:56 AM Re: Next man up [Re: oobernoober]
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Didn't Vernon miss time with an injury last season ? ?

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#1695872 - 11/19/19 09:10 AM Re: Next man up [Re: waterdawg]
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On ESPN's site, it says he played in 11 games in 2018.
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#1695875 - 11/19/19 09:12 AM Re: Next man up [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Thanks Dawg . I thought he had some time out last year . Remember hesring something about that when Dorsey traded for him ( not a trade I liked much ) ..

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#1695883 - 11/19/19 09:52 AM Re: Next man up [Re: OldColdDawg]
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They keep saying on the radio vernon is most likely done for the season frown
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#1695886 - 11/19/19 10:15 AM Re: Next man up [Re: OldColdDawg]
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#1695892 - 11/19/19 10:46 AM Re: Next man up [Re: OldColdDawg]
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Time for Redwine to step it up.
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#1695905 - 11/19/19 11:33 AM Re: Next man up [Re: HotBYoungTurk]
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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Time for Redwine to step it up.


He looked lost against the Steelers
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#1695941 - 11/19/19 12:43 PM Re: Next man up [Re: oobernoober]
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We will find out more about Wilks this week.

Adjustments will be needed. Smith, Thomas and Vernon are the DE's If Vernon can play.

Lawrence will have to play for Ogunjobi.

But more importantly Wilks will have to make some changes.

He will have to blitz more because we will not get the pressure from the front four like we did with Myles.

The DB's will be asked to cover longer. Again pressure related.

What we do at linebacker most likely will change some as well. On run downs maybe a true 4-3 with different looks on different downs and distance.

Losing a player of Myles's caliber is not an easy fix. Richardson and Vernon are experienced players they will be called on to do more.

This will be a stern test for Wilks.

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#1695945 - 11/19/19 12:55 PM Re: Next man up [Re: bonefish]
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Originally Posted By: bonefish

We will find out more about Wilks this week.

Adjustments will be needed. Smith, Thomas and Vernon are the DE's If Vernon can play.

Lawrence will have to play for Ogunjobi.

But more importantly Wilks will have to make some changes.

He will have to blitz more because we will not get the pressure from the front four like we did with Myles.

The DB's will be asked to cover longer. Again pressure related.

What we do at linebacker most likely will change some as well. On run downs maybe a true 4-3 with different looks on different downs and distance.

Losing a player of Myles's caliber is not an easy fix. Richardson and Vernon are experienced players they will be called on to do more.

This will be a stern test for Wilks.

QFT!

Next man up is... Steve Wilks.

Just watched the Miami - Buffalo game from Sunday. FitzMagic throws his wand to the ground at the first sign of pressure.

I've argued for more blitzing all season. Yet, I understood the philosophy of creating pressure up front with one of the best players, and lines, in the league. At the end of the day, that philosophy is "playing it safe"... And playing it safe doesn't translate to a championship caliber defense. Not in any alternate universe would "losing Myles" make you a better team, but in this one, because the line is still plenty "stout", it may actually be a blessing in disguise if we can create more havoc and turnovers.
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#1695955 - 11/19/19 01:12 PM Re: Next man up [Re: slick]
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Originally Posted By: slick
Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Time for Redwine to step it up.


He looked lost against the Steelers

One of the following will be true...

Red redwine, you make me feel so fine
You keep me rockin' all of the time

or...

Red redwine, you make me feel so sad
Any time I see you go, it make me feel bad
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#1695958 - 11/19/19 01:23 PM Re: Next man up [Re: bonefish]
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Originally Posted By: bonefish

We will find out more about Wilks this week.

Adjustments will be needed. Smith, Thomas and Vernon are the DE's If Vernon can play.

Lawrence will have to play for Ogunjobi.

But more importantly Wilks will have to make some changes.

He will have to blitz more because we will not get the pressure from the front four like we did with Myles.

The DB's will be asked to cover longer. Again pressure related.

What we do at linebacker most likely will change some as well. On run downs maybe a true 4-3 with different looks on different downs and distance.

Losing a player of Myles's caliber is not an easy fix. Richardson and Vernon are experienced players they will be called on to do more.

This will be a stern test for Wilks.

While all of that is true.... the offense is going to have to take some of the pressure off the defense this week. Even in our 4 wins, we have only scored more than 23 points once (Ravens).... that needs to change. We need 30+ because not only is Wilkes doing without Myles, the jury is still out on Ogunjobi (might win appeal and be back but for now, he's not), Burnett is out, Heard that Randall won't be suspended (hope not)... .

The Dolphins are giving up 148 ypg on the ground, we should go over 200 yards this week... we just need to pound, pound, pound and keep our defense on the sidelines as much as possible..
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#1695968 - 11/19/19 01:55 PM Re: Next man up [Re: slick]
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Originally Posted By: slick
They keep saying on the radio vernon is most likely done for the season frown
First I have heard about that. Link?

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#1695970 - 11/19/19 01:56 PM Re: Next man up [Re: DCDAWGFAN]
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Originally Posted By: DCDAWGFAN
Originally Posted By: bonefish

We will find out more about Wilks this week.

Adjustments will be needed. Smith, Thomas and Vernon are the DE's If Vernon can play.

Lawrence will have to play for Ogunjobi.

But more importantly Wilks will have to make some changes.

He will have to blitz more because we will not get the pressure from the front four like we did with Myles.

The DB's will be asked to cover longer. Again pressure related.

What we do at linebacker most likely will change some as well. On run downs maybe a true 4-3 with different looks on different downs and distance.

Losing a player of Myles's caliber is not an easy fix. Richardson and Vernon are experienced players they will be called on to do more.

This will be a stern test for Wilks.

While all of that is true.... the offense is going to have to take some of the pressure off the defense this week. Even in our 4 wins, we have only scored more than 23 points once (Ravens).... that needs to change. We need 30+ because not only is Wilkes doing without Myles, the jury is still out on Ogunjobi (might win appeal and be back but for now, he's not), Burnett is out, Heard that Randall won't be suspended (hope not)... .

The Dolphins are giving up 148 ypg on the ground, we should go over 200 yards this week... we just need to pound, pound, pound and keep our defense on the sidelines as much as possible..
There is literally 0 hope that we will do that lol.

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#1695984 - 11/19/19 02:36 PM Re: Next man up [Re: willitevachange]
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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Originally Posted By: slick
They keep saying on the radio vernon is most likely done for the season frown
First I have heard about that. Link?


Vernon may play this week.

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#1695999 - 11/19/19 02:56 PM Re: Next man up [Re: OldColdDawg]
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If I remember correctly hasnt Fitz given us fits in the past? I remember him picking us apart when he played for buffalo
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#1696016 - 11/19/19 03:42 PM Re: Next man up [Re: GratefulDawg]
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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


I think that its time to unveil our secret wonder (V) weapons.

On a serious note I would like to see Hassel brought up from the PS.
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