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#1707326 - 12/15/19 07:39 PM Re: Post game. [Re: EveDawg]
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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
I am ok with this loss.

Because it helps get us a new EXPERIENCED coaching staff.

That and I met a new guy at the bar. Well not so new, he is part of our regulars crew.

But super nice and sweet.
And football fanatic.
And lives nearby.
And a good job.
And he likes me.

So fingers crossed.



So what took you so long?
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#1707327 - 12/15/19 07:41 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Tulsa]
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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
If changes arenít made, next Sunday will be very ugly


I think next Sunday will be ugly, regardless of any changes made.

One trick pony rides again.


Nothing is going to be done prior to season's end. The Browns are going to get throttled next week at home and sent off the field to a chorus of BOOs (if any Browns fans are actually in the stands at the end of the game). That chorus should ring loud and clear to Haslam and Dorsey.

I do not expect the Browns to win another game and frankly it doesn't really matter at this point.
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#1707328 - 12/15/19 07:43 PM Re: Post game. [Re: EveDawg]
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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
I am ok with this loss.

Because it helps get us a new EXPERIENCED coaching staff.

That and I met a new guy at the bar. Well not so new, he is part of our regulars crew.

But super nice and sweet.
And football fanatic.
And lives nearby.
And a good job.
And he likes me.
And he is my age.

So fingers crossed.




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#1707329 - 12/15/19 07:44 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Man, this game sucked, because we had something to play for ..... and we got wiped out.

I dunno what to think.

Is it personnel? Is it coaching? Is it a little of both?

The Rams also had something to play for ...... and they got wiped out by a very ordinary Dallas team.

I want Freddie to come back, but I also was a "senior assistant" added, perhaps brought in as associate head coach.
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#1707330 - 12/15/19 07:46 PM Re: Post game. [Re: bbrowns32]
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Originally Posted By: bbrowns32
Originally Posted By: EveDawg
I am ok with this loss.

Because it helps get us a new EXPERIENCED coaching staff.

That and I met a new guy at the bar. Well not so new, he is part of our regulars crew.

But super nice and sweet.
And football fanatic.
And lives nearby.
And a good job.
And he likes me.

So fingers crossed.



So what took you so long?


I am very particular about men.
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#1707331 - 12/15/19 07:48 PM Re: Post game. [Re: The Beast]
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Agreed. This team has quit. Heck, they quit before the 2nd Pittsburgh game where if they won they would have been in the drivers seat for a wild card. This is on the coaches pure and simple. It doesn't matter if we win another game this season. If we don't we will have a higher draft pick which, of course, we will probably mess up. Ridiculous.

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#1707332 - 12/15/19 07:50 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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I have felt for a while that this team doesnt believe in the coaches

I feel the players have tried to be good teammates and not say anything and play hard.

But you could totally tell by their body language today, that the team is lost.
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#1707333 - 12/15/19 07:50 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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FK is not a smart coach.
I hate firing a coach every year or three, but heís a dumbass. We should have called timeouts on D at end of first half to preserve the clock and maybe get a chance to at least kick a field goal.

Nope, we did not.

His game-management skills are embarrassing, now the players are calling him on it.

I wanted to keep GW btw.
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#1707335 - 12/15/19 07:53 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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The sense of the team quitting is as bad as I can recall
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#1707336 - 12/15/19 07:55 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
The sense of the team quitting is as bad as I can recall


Even Hue's players didn't quit like this. The last time I remember something this bad was during the end of Chud's season.
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#1707339 - 12/15/19 07:58 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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I dont feel they are quitting. I feel they feel defeated and have lost confidence in the coaches.

They still try hard, but they know, and everybody knows, the schemes are bad.
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#1707341 - 12/15/19 07:59 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Tulsa]
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Baltimore will put 50 on us. After all the talk when we beat them, they will come ready to put the beatdown on these underachievers. The defense without Garrett is horrible. His misjudgement hurt this team majorly.

We beat the Steelers, and still lost. That is the story of this whole year.

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#1707342 - 12/15/19 08:00 PM Re: Post game. [Re: lampdogg]
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Originally Posted By: lampdogg
I wanted to keep GW btw.


Ditto that, lamp. It doesn't seem to me that, at least at this point, that Freddie is HC material...
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#1707343 - 12/15/19 08:00 PM Re: Post game. [Re: ThomasE]
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Originally Posted By: ThomasE
again with the 1-0 next week at FK's presser


would you rather hear this, or Shurmur blather on about how "Well, we battled today..."

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#1707344 - 12/15/19 08:01 PM Re: Post game. [Re: boofers20]
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fk says that too, only he says "competed"

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#1707345 - 12/15/19 08:01 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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This team is so S-O-F-T. There are only 2 players who I would consider tough, hard-nosed football players. Chubb and Hunt. Everyone else, soft as the day is long. DBs are absolutely the softest. Greedy Williams, please.

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#1707347 - 12/15/19 08:04 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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I'm just glad we didn't let a single game go by where we don't try that killer shovel pass behind the line of scrimmage in a crucial situation, because that never works, except for the one freaking time that it did somehow work LAST YEAR.

The wheels are off ...


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#1707348 - 12/15/19 08:04 PM Re: Post game. [Re: jfanent]
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Originally Posted By: jfanent
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
The sense of the team quitting is as bad as I can recall


Even Hue's players didn't quit like this. The last time I remember something this bad was during the end of Chud's season.

I now truely believe Bob Wylie's comments that Freddie took the credit for everyone's work last year. Only the players know the truth and thier heart shows thier commitment to thier coach. I think fat Freddie is BS artist that Bs'ed his way into a headcoaching job and now we see the results.

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#1707349 - 12/15/19 08:05 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Our DBs are among the worst Iíve witnessed ... Greedy is garbage, Ward is soft, and the others are traffic cones
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#1707350 - 12/15/19 08:08 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Ward was a beast last year under GW, maybe too much he was always in concussion protocol. This year he is just another guy.

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#1707351 - 12/15/19 08:10 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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#1707353 - 12/15/19 08:13 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Between Jarvisí outburst, OBJís body language, Bakerís regression, our defenseís effort .. how in the HECK can we keep this staff?
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#1707357 - 12/15/19 08:15 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Clemdawg]
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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
Browns are gonna brown.


Yes, but it doesnít always have to be the same brown I brown, after a Mexican restaurant dinner.
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#1707360 - 12/15/19 08:23 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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At least itís over,

1-31 was easier
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#1707361 - 12/15/19 08:25 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Rishuz]
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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Trash organization.

Trash coaches.

Trash players.

Trash team.

I knew they wouldn't win today.



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#1707362 - 12/15/19 08:27 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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What is the status of Hospital Ward?


I saw him walking off the field with a towel over his head. I had no volume. What is his problem this time?
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#1707363 - 12/15/19 08:29 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Ballpeen]
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Something with an ankle, but he was back for the second half.

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#1707364 - 12/15/19 08:30 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Knight]
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Originally Posted By: Knight
Originally Posted By: jfanent
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
The sense of the team quitting is as bad as I can recall


Even Hue's players didn't quit like this. The last time I remember something this bad was during the end of Chud's season.

I now truely believe Bob Wylie's comments that Freddie took the credit for everyone's work last year. Only the players know the truth and thier heart shows thier commitment to thier coach. I think fat Freddie is BS artist that Bs'ed his way into a headcoaching job and now we see the results.


I sincerely hope this isn't true, but the results this season make me wonder...
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#1707365 - 12/15/19 08:31 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Ballpeen]
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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
What is the status of Hospital Ward?


I saw him walking off the field with a towel over his head. I had no volume. What is his problem this time?


He played the entire second half after heading to the locker room before half for issue with his ankle.

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#1707366 - 12/15/19 08:36 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Milk Man]
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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
What is the status of Hospital Ward?


I saw him walking off the field with a towel over his head. I had no volume. What is his problem this time?


He played the entire second half after heading to the locker room before half for issue with his ankle.




Ok.....good deal. I was thinking it was later in the game.
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#1707367 - 12/15/19 08:38 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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I don't believe that I have ever felt so worn down and disillusioned in any season...
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#1707368 - 12/15/19 08:38 PM Re: Post game. [Re: YTownBrownsFan]
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The Rams also had something to play for ...... and they got wiped out by a very ordinary Dallas team.

I want Freddie to come back, but I also was a "senior assistant" added, perhaps brought in as associate head coach.


Dallas had something to play for, too, with the Eagles winning earlier.

The Browns showed up like they had absolutely nothing to play for. I guess the defense took Syeve Wilkes' comments to heart when he said this week's game against Arizona was "just another game."

If Freddie needs a babysitter to coach him through the year, he's not the guy. A special assistant coach isn't going to make the players respect him.

Freddie was a gamble that blew up in Dorsey's face. Walk away from the table, don't keep going to the ATM hoping the jackpot is bound to happen.

It's wishful and irrational thinking.

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#1707371 - 12/15/19 08:46 PM Re: Post game. [Re: bbrowns32]
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I don't believe that I have ever felt so worn down and disillusioned in any season...
yeah, the expectations and hope basically just made this all more difficult to handle
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#1707372 - 12/15/19 08:48 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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j/c...


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#1707376 - 12/15/19 08:58 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Milk Man]
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j/c...



That......man.
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#1707378 - 12/15/19 09:01 PM Re: Post game. [Re: IRISHPRIDE]
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thumbsup
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"First down as we threaten again. A score here puts us in the Super Bowl. Odell is far to the left as Landry settles into the slot. Njoku is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Baker takes the snap ... Here we go."

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#1707380 - 12/15/19 09:01 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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They look completely dejected.

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#1707381 - 12/15/19 09:02 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Milk Man]
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#1707384 - 12/15/19 09:04 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Milk Man]
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Ugh

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#1707385 - 12/15/19 09:06 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Milk Man]
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j/c...



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