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31 years old! A two year deal!

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Edge Adrian Clayborn, Atlanta Falcons
I touched on Beasley earlier as one of the players who might be overvalued by his sack numbers. His running mate at edge, Clayborn, falls in the other camp. He only had four sacks on the season, but very few edge rushers won a higher rate of their pass-rushing snaps. The top-five edge defenders with 200 or more pass-rushing snaps in pass-rush win rate were J.J. Watt (25.3%), Myles Garrett (25.0%), Joey Bosa (22.9%), Za’Darius Smith (21.2%) and Clayborn (21.1%).

Clayborn has shown flashes in games – who can forget the Chaz Green game – and seasons (2017) where he has looked dominant, but he has been unable to string together multiple seasons at that level. With his last three seasons being his three best seasons in PFF overall grade, it makes sense for a team to capitalize on his low sack total from 2019 and bring him in on a team-friendly deal in 2020.


https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-misleading-sack-numbers-free-agents-2020

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This is the type of player we were missing last year when Myles Garrett got suspended and Olivier Vernon was injured.

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I'm going to guess there is a decent way to get out after one year.


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The Browns are signing some older players.

FWIW--- From PFF:

Solo Tackels: 11
Assists: 3
Sacks: 4
Forced Fumbles: 2

Pass Rush: 76.6
Run Defense: 57.2
Overall Grade: 71.7

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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
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All reports are saying a depth signing.


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Loved him coming out of Iowa


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
The Browns are signing some older players.

FWIW--- From PFF:

Solo Tackels: 11
Assists: 3
Sacks: 4
Forced Fumbles: 2

Pass Rush: 76.6
Run Defense: 57.2
Overall Grade: 71.7




Veteran depth is huge. Not having to rely on bad players like Chad Thomas will make the team better.

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All reports are saying a depth signing.


It seems to lean that way to me. I think they want Everson Griffin too.


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Yeah, I'm okay w/this signing. I'm surprised, but if he can still play, he can serve a purpose. Especially in passing situations.

I didn't watch a ton of Atlanta while they were on D last year. Hard for me to say if the dropped off or not. I know he used to be a pretty damn good pass rusher.

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I think it a pretty good signing. I live 110 miles from Atlanta. I get all their games on local TV. I don't watch them all, but when I do, this cat gets around the QB on a regular basis. He doesn't get many sacks, but he is there slapping his hand on a pad, or rushing the QB's thought process.

Good signing.


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Good depth DE, something we missed last year obviously. He’s experienced and a decent pass rusher


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I do think Bryan Cox Jr played well, though.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I do think Bryan Cox Jr played well, though.



I agree. I think Cox was very serviceable.

Not a pro-bowl type player, but then, most aren't. He was good in his spots and a good back-up player.

Cox might not be the guy you want in a full time starting role, but he has a solid place on the team, even if pressed in to starting.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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I do think Bryan Cox Jr played well, though.



I agree. I think Cox was very serviceable.

Not a pro-bowl type player, but then, most aren't. He was good in his spots and a good back-up player.

Cox might not be the guy you want in a full time starting role, but he has a solid place on the team, even if pressed in to starting.


I'd take him over Chad Thomas. Neither will likely be on the team.

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I agree. I should have been more clear. I meant as a back-up. He did some really nice things in regards to setting the edge and providing outside containment. Those are things I look for in a DE/Edge player.

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I do think Bryan Cox Jr played well, though.



I agree. I think Cox was very serviceable.

Not a pro-bowl type player, but then, most aren't. He was good in his spots and a good back-up player.

Cox might not be the guy you want in a full time starting role, but he has a solid place on the team, even if pressed in to starting.


I'd take him over Chad Thomas. Neither will likely be on the team.




Maybe, maybe not. Berry and crew don't seem as nepotistic as some other FO's


I do agree that Thomas is probably gone. Cox, maybe not.


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I think this is a great signing for depth.

This signing might be a signal that we plan on keeping Vernon opposite of Garrett.

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Originally Posted By: DeputyDawg
I think this is a great signing for depth.

This signing might be a signal that we plan on keeping Vernon opposite of Garrett.




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Solid depth. Gives us a little wiggle room if we dont draft a DE this year.


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I feel the average fan or even the common athlete doesn't expect great play out of a injured player. I'm happy I'm a fan and don't have to put my body in the physical abuse athletes have to.

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Originally Posted By: DeisleDawg
I feel the average fan or even the common athlete doesn't expect great play out of a injured player. I'm happy I'm a fan and don't have to put my body in the physical abuse athletes have to.


The money would be nice, bro. grin

As most of you know I was a RB. I don't think people really appreciate how much abuse a RB takes. Blocking pass rushers who weigh over 100-150 lbs more than you. Blocking speed freaks w/iron bodies. Getting crunched by those same dudes when you run the ball. Gang-tackled. Catching a short pass and getting lit up by a safety or LBer because your back is turned and the qb throws it high or in front of you or behind you.

The hits take a toll on a man's body. Trust me on that one.

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J/C Holy Crap I was just on Spotrac looking at F/A DE's. I clicked over here and Bang!. He is a good player, love it for depth and 3rd down packages. I always remember he really hustles his rear off, dont always get the sack, but puts pressure on. Nice FA signing at this point and allows us not to have to take an Edge guy in the early rounds of the draft.

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I like this move a lot. He should be a perfect rotational piece outside.


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Could be Clayborn as starter and Vernon as VERY expensive pass rusher....Maybe he'd stay available....GO Browns!!!


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Clayborn should not be the starter. I think you have things backwards.

Anyway, here is an excerpt from an article about the Falcons that preceded the Brown's signing of Clayborn.

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Adrian Clayborn: BUY

It feels like every offseason the Falcons ink Adrian Clayborn to a one year deal. Hey, let’s do it again. After spending four of his last five seasons in Atlanta, Clayborn has become a rotational body. However, he knows this system & team well and has given the Falcons plenty every year at his price point. He managed to pick up four sacks last season (more than Takk McKinley), so he has some gas left in the tank. I would not be surprised at all if the Falcons inked him after 4:00 today.


Full article here: https://www.sportstalkatl.com/buy-or-sell-free-agents-for-the-falcons/


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Seems like he needs to be a backup there.


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Yes. I think this is a good signing. Think about this:

Passing downs:

Bring in Clayborn at one edge, keep Vernon at the other edge, move Myles inside and have Ogunjobi as the other DT. Those are some guys who can get after the passer, dawg!

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Nice signing. Should provide a solid pass rush as a rotational player.

Also, adds additional veteran presence.

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Everything the team has done has altered my ideas about the draft. I was very much inclined to target one of the top Safeties in round 2. I would wait until round 3 if a particular d-lineman is available at pick 41. Marlon Davidson, DT/DE Auburn. Long-term he'll be and DT but he's got experience and real production from the edge. Add Clayborn and this kid's abilities to our front and keep Vernon until his contract expires.

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I don’t know who the hell he is, but I’m happy after reading the posts on here from those who do. Solid rotation signing at DL.


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A serviceable 3-man rotation at DT and now a 3rd man to rotate at DE??

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We obviously needed a 3rd end...we obviously need some veteran leadership in our locker room as well.

From what I remember about Claybourne is he came out in 2011, and a lot of people were pumping him here. I remember wanting Ryan Kerrigan that year, and I think we ended up with Jabaal Sheard that year. He has been or had been injury riddled then I remember one year he produced a monster stat year a few years ago. Good high effort player...I was hoping for Everson Griffin, but Claybourne is a solid-good signing considering we have little to nothing behind Myles and Vernon.

Once again, hopefully it keeps us from reaching for need.

I could be wrong but hasn't Claybourne also played snaps inside? Then again I may be thinking of Allen Bailey whom I wanted us to sign last year.

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Having Claybourne also means we will be able to keep Richardson at Tackle and not be forced to move him to DE in case of injury, something we had to do lat year.


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Originally Posted By: guard dawg
Everything the team has done has altered my ideas about the draft. I was very much inclined to target one of the top Safeties in round 2. I would wait until round 3 if a particular d-lineman is available at pick 41. Marlon Davidson, DT/DE Auburn. Long-term he'll be and DT but he's got experience and real production from the edge. Add Clayborn and this kid's abilities to our front and keep Vernon until his contract expires.



I know that is one way to look at it, but I don't look at position targets in the draft, at least early. Let the draft come to you then see who is there and take the best player. I can see doing that starting maybe around the 5th or 6th round if you need a punter or long snapper.

OK, maybe you cross some players/positions off the board...I am not looking for a QB or a RB or whatever but I would never think, ok, in the 2nd we are going to draft a safety, in the 3rd a backer, in the 4th a guard.

Why handcuff yourself? You know what you hope to find. Think of it as money. Why pass over $10 when you are looking for $5?


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j/c:

Reports are saying this morning that it is a vet minimum deal with incentives.

I really like how this signing encapsulates our free agency so far. Make a couple big signings to boost the starters, then go after some depth/short-term starters without paying crazy contracts. THEN....wait for the market to soften and get someone like Clayborn on a very cheap deal with a record of productivity.

Good to know the smart guys are back making these type of decisions.


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