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the COVID excuses only go so far.

we looked like we didn't have physical practices at all. i was swapping to all the other games, and all the other teams looked way more physical than us, despite having the same off season as us, which is none.


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Same story

Different year


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i'm trying not to overreact but holy crap guys...again? we BARELY looked competitive in the first half.

Baker mayfield doesn't appear to be able to read the entire field. there were plenty of times where the camera angle showed a player open on one side of the field, but baker doesn't even look their way.

OBJ is also overrated, however i gotta wonder how much is that due to baker unable to read the field.


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Tired of opening day with this team I think I will not watch anymore openers smh


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also...our secondary is horrible.

who's #23? good god he's bad. and where was Ward? i dont remember him making any sort of impact this game.


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That was not fun. It’s week one. We played a very good team and got bopped. On to next week.

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Not going to over react. That was about as trash as I was expecting. Some things better some things worse. Baltimore are very good and a very complete team. Let's see how they look week 3 and 4.


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It's wash, rinse and repeat from previous seasons. 4 Head coaches in Baker's young career, how many offenses. . . our defense is consistently out of position like last year (where did you go Greg Williams??)

We have no identity other than one that consistently underwhelms and disappoints.

Nothing new under the sun.

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Stefanski didn't have physical practices because he wanted to keep everyone healthy.

In a weird twist of irony he lost everyone to injury in the first game because he refused to have physical practices.

Oh, and he got blown out.

Meanwhile Rivera beat Philly.

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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
Tired of opening day with this team I think I will not watch anymore openers smh


I've tried that before, it was a bring back Hue Jackson year.
It doesn't help, still know that they lost.


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My only thought is why didn't they get Arians.


We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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A Washington team with no name and a new head coach comes back to win after being down 17 points and scored 27 unanswered points. We had 4th and 41, an interception, missed extra point, missed field goal, dropped pass for a crucial first down, a fumble, 3 more injuries, defense giving up multiple long drives including a 99yd one and have not won an opening game in over a decade and a half.


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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Stefanski didn't have physical practices because he wanted to keep everyone healthy.

In a weird twist of irony he lost everyone to injury in the first game because he refused to have physical practices.

Oh, and he got blown out.

Meanwhile Rivera beat Philly.


Mibad. Can't read.


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I told my wife a few weeks ago because of camp cupcake and no preseason that I had a weird feeling we would lose wills to a season ending injury week one. She told me I was crazy ridiculous and paranoid. When I found out wills left the game with a injury that prevented him from being able to walk I told my wife " what I tell ya?" She is not to happy with me right now lol


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Arians, McCarthy, Rivera.

You have guys like Depo who are desperately trying to make a name for themselves, have the ear of an idiot owner, and do not want to be overshadowed by a name coach. It's better for them if the no name coach becomes successful.

Meanwhile, the Arians, McCarthys, and Riveras of the world go on and have success with other teams.

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smh, look around the league, guys.

everybody seems to be far more competitive than us. even the texans played more physical than we did in their loss. we might be the only team that got the brakes beat off of us this week.


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I will look on the bright side.
Perhaps the season will be cancelled in a week or two,saving all of us another embarrassing 16 weeks.


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Originally Posted By: BCbrownie
I will look on the bright side.
Perhaps the season will be cancelled in a week or two,saving all of us another embarrassing 16 weeks.


The bright side is 0-16 and Trevor Lawrence.

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I think we were all expecting a loss. Though admittedly not this bad. New coaches historically lose most of their openers each season. Add to that the limited implementation time and playing a veteran team with a stable system who oh by the way is one of the best teams in football... of course we were going to lose.

Next up is Cincinnati. A bad team with a rookie Qb on a short week. Now if we lose that game, I just may give up on the season.


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We may not have any players to field against Cincy.

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We looked better in 99.


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What happened to Baker and his rookie year throwing back shoulder passes, throwing to receivers whose defenders had their back towards them and just overall being decisive. He looks the same as last year, not making the correct reads, horrible footwork and inaccurate.


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IT is what it is....and it was ugly.

I didn't have alot of expectations but hoped for better...the drive following the Ravens fumble in the red zone seemed to turn the tide...we got to their 30 and then it was, OMG, we need to get OBJ involved...how did that work out?

I remember the announcers dicsussing the Earl Thomas release and Harbaugh saying, "Sometime a player doesn't fit...it doesn't mean he is not a good player but it just isn't a fit"...kind of reminds me of OBJ...not sure what we could get for him at this point as he has hardly set the NFL on fire since "the trade".

Man, how bad is the Thursday night game going to be with BOTH teams feeling the muscle pain from the exertion and hitting that they didn't experience in the shortened camps?

I am tired of our perpetually pathetic secondary...I know, starters are hurt....but they just seem to be a bunch of woos boys.

Could be a very long year....can ONLY hope to see improvement...would be miraculous if these guys make a serious run for the playoffs.

It is beginning to look like we need to start thinking about a QB in 2021 draft...I have heard all the commentary about the number of caoches and schemes Baker has had to deal with but he just isn't showing any propensity to make something out of nothing...

I think Chubb and Hunt should be on the field at the same time...

My $0.02

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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Arians, McCarthy, Rivera.

You have guys like Depo who are desperately trying to make a name for themselves, have the ear of an idiot owner, and do not want to be overshadowed by a name coach. It's better for them if the no name coach becomes successful.

Meanwhile, the Arians, McCarthys, and Riveras of the world go on and have success with other teams.


Arians WANTED to be the head coach.


We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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Originally Posted By: homer_brown
Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Arians, McCarthy, Rivera.

You have guys like Depo who are desperately trying to make a name for themselves, have the ear of an idiot owner, and do not want to be overshadowed by a name coach. It's better for them if the no name coach becomes successful.

Meanwhile, the Arians, McCarthys, and Riveras of the world go on and have success with other teams.


Arians WANTED to be the head coach.



And Dorsey, who was in charge, didn’t even interview him.

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The offense moved the ball for first downs

Wayy better than to only come away with 6 points.

OH!

How do you miss Every Kick on the day!

Db's are a laundry list of guys fighting to prove they don't belong in the NFL.


The Defensive Front 7 got noticeably worse than games in the past, in spite of if they gave up points

The Offense played way to well to only get 6 points. as far as moving the ball and keeping drives alive.


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Originally Posted By: homer_brown
Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Arians, McCarthy, Rivera.

You have guys like Depo who are desperately trying to make a name for themselves, have the ear of an idiot owner, and do not want to be overshadowed by a name coach. It's better for them if the no name coach becomes successful.

Meanwhile, the Arians, McCarthys, and Riveras of the world go on and have success with other teams.


Arians WANTED to be the head coach.



Yep really hoped they learn their lesson about first time coaches but no they always want to prove they are smarter than actual football people and it blows up. Not getting Arians and then this year McCarthy just set us back again. I think stefanski has a better chance to succeed than kitchens and I think the off-season hurt, but I don’t think he’ll be successful with a qb like mayfield


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Hypothetial Browns Head Coach interview

:owner " Are you ok with losing?"

:candidate, " Sure for 300K per game paycheck, i'll do whatever"

:owner, "you're hired"


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Originally Posted By: homer_brown
Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Arians, McCarthy, Rivera.

You have guys like Depo who are desperately trying to make a name for themselves, have the ear of an idiot owner, and do not want to be overshadowed by a name coach. It's better for them if the no name coach becomes successful.

Meanwhile, the Arians, McCarthys, and Riveras of the world go on and have success with other teams.


Arians WANTED to be the head coach.


Is that a Statement or a Question?


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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
Arians, McCarthy, Rivera.

You have guys like Depo who are desperately trying to make a name for themselves, have the ear of an idiot owner, and do not want to be overshadowed by a name coach. It's better for them if the no name coach becomes successful.

Meanwhile, the Arians, McCarthys, and Riveras of the world go on and have success with other teams.


Arians WANTED to be the head coach.



And Dorsey, who was in charge, didn’t even interview him.


Absolutely. Stupid as can be.


We're trying to throw the ball downfield and he checked the ball down to Trent Richardson and the Indians on the choice.
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Our run defense was pretty good. We forced Lamar to beat us with his arm and he did. My hats off to him.

The turning point of the game to me was Odell dropping the 3rd and 2 pass. We were wobbled but seemed to be righting the ship when that happened. Next play we miss a field goal then allowed Lamar to drive it right down the field.

I have no idea what went wrong on offense after that. Mayfield needs to be better


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Completely uninspired football. The intensity level was that of a 2-13 team just playing out the season.

- Baker throws an INT on the first drive setting the tone. It's a sinking feeling thinking he may not be the guy.

- Seibert blows. Bye.

- OBJ has done absolutely nothing. Dropped an easy 1st down before halftime which could have led to a TD and kept the game close.

- Poor time management by Stefanski before the half.

- Had a promising drive only to somehow end up in a 3rd and 41 position.

- Browns lose yet another opener.

- Someone let Ward, Garrett, Vernon, anyone...that they are allowed to make a play on D.

- Hopefully, Wills Jr. isn't out for an extended period of time. He needs all the reps he can get.

- Austin Hooper: 2 catches for 15 yards.

- I did not expect the Browns to win today, but a competitive good would give some sense of optimism. Getting drubbed 38-6 in a comedy of errors does not inspire hope.

- The Browns were outworked and outcoached in every facet of the game.

- Who is the leader on this team? Is there one?

One down, fifteen more to go.

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A few things I’m tired of seeing:

- Drops in KEY spots. I mean, that OBJ drop basically was the play of the game (or at least sealed our fate)

- Missed XPs/FGs ... Seibert ain’t it

- Baker’s inability to read a defense or more than one quick read. He’s quickly proving he’s not it.

- Us giving up a score right before the half. It’s almost defying logic at this point.

- Us having more penalties than them.

- Me wondering “Is Garrett playing?” multiple times a game. He had like no impact today.

- Our secondary is VERY VERY bad ... we can’t cover a TE since 99. And Sendejo needs to be Sent-Bye-O


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Burrow will put up 300yds 2 passing TDs and 1 rushing TD against us. Mark this post.


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We got exactly what I expected from Woods 4/2 Defense .. Was sorely disappointed with the O's performance ..

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Burrow just led them to a TD so


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
Poor time management by Stefanski before the half.


I'm surprised more people aren't calling this out.

This isn't a first time head coach mistake. It was ignorance and incompetence.

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Same old Browns, there I said it.
The team didn't look enthusiastic from the get go. Beckam looked to be just going thru the motions. Baker was last years Baker, and I think that is who he is. Landry as usual was the player that seemed to care.

I had no problem with the game plan or the coaching in game, it was obvious it was a lack of performance from the players.

The off season hurt them, and it looked like the first pre season game. Baltimore, just might, be that good though.

Turnovers, penalties, dropped passes on third down and fumbles. Classic Browns football.


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Is there a website where it tracks how many scores teams have given up before halftime? The Browns HAVE to be the top team by a wide margin.


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Poor time management by Stefanski before the half.


I'm surprised more people aren't calling this out.

This isn't a first time head coach mistake. It was ignorance and incompetence.


Let the clock run then call the timeout if you convert.

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