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World Series Game 1: Tampa Bay Rays (Tyler Glasnow) vs. Los Angeles Dodgers (Clayton Kershaw), 8:09 p.m. ET in Arlington, Texas
Rays
Yandy Diaz, 1B
Brandon Lowe, 2B
Randy Arozarena, DH
Hunter Renfroe, RF
Manuel Margot, LF
Joey Wendle, 3B
Willy Adames, SS
Kevin Kiermaier, CF
Mike Zunino, C
RHP Tyler Glasnow
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Mookie Betts, RF
Corey Seager, SS
Justin Turner, 3B
Max Muncy, 1B
Will Smith, DH
Cody Bellinger, 1B
Chris Taylor, 2B
Joc Pederson, LF
Austin Barnes, C
LHP Clayton Kershaw
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Boy, I miss the daytime World Series games from my childhood in the 60's. I used to run home from my elementary school 3 blocks from our house to try to catch the start of the 2nd inning on TV. It was baseball's Golden Age, IMO.
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By the way, the game is on FOX broadcast.
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Yandy Diaz could roll out of bed in the morning and hit a line drive off your ace.
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Glasnow isn’t as sharp so far. I’m hoping for a good series
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I enjoy listening to John Smoltz. He is very intelligent when it comes to baseball.
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I enjoy listening to John Smoltz. He is very intelligent when it comes to baseball. he’s very enjoyable to listen to during a game. A true student and teacher, which is a good combo
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Dude will probably get bombed since I said this, but this Rays pitcher w/the long hair understands the strike count and how to place the ball. He really works the location strategically. I love working outside low corner early, coming high and tight when ahead, a waste pitch when up in the count, and then throwing just outside the strike zone to induce ground balls.
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I'm glad the Astros didn't make it.
Manfred should've taken their chip.
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Bellinger has such a sweet swing.
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6-1 Dodgers in the 6th.
Not ideal!
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I've watched about 8 minutes of MLB this year, all in the last 2 weeks.
This includes listening to or reading about it.
I even know the teams in the World series this year, not real happy about that.
I'm not sure I could name 1 MLB player, but sadly I could probably pick out a half a dozen in a list. Pujols, and Jeter may be retired and zilch after that.
I really suggest giving up on that sport in total, I pretty much did in 2000 and I've been happier for it,
happier not worrying at all about it.
Biggest challenge is avoiding it altogether.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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One thing I have noticed in the games I have watched this post-season is the absurd number of base-running errors. It started w/the Reds running them out of inning after inning against the Braves and ruining Bauer's masterpiece and it is continuing all the way into tonight's game.
Inexcusable!
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Walks, unless intentional, are killers. Especially when you walk the leadoff hitter.
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Can someone please explain to me why the analytics say it is a better decision to swing away when a dramatic shift is on where the the closest player to third base is only 2-3 steps away from 2nd base instead of bunting down the third base line?
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Fundamentals are horrible. Why throw over when the dude isn't going to steal? Then, how does the first baseman miss that ball? The game sucks anymore.
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I can skip the game and read your commentary... to be reminded of all the reasons I don't watch baseball anymore. Analytics, shifts, swinging for the fences have made it a live version of a freaking video game. Been just about done with the game for a few years now.
Edited to add: players just don't seem to understand the importance of the fundamentals the way they used to, to me it has cheapened the game.
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Yeah................I am trying to like it again due to all the Social Justice BS, but damn, the game is bad!
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Sucks when you just want to pick a sport where you can avoid politics and the sport itself sucks lol.
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This is shaping up to be a good series IMO. Good pitching, but not great pitching ... it allows for some nice opportunities and drama
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Can someone please explain to me why the analytics say it is a better decision to swing away when a dramatic shift is on where the the closest player to third base is only 2-3 steps away from 2nd base instead of bunting down the third base line? I wish I had more info, are there runners on which bases? Where are the 3rd baseman and shortstop, is the 3rd baseman playing deep in the infield/edge of the outfield? Statistically, bunting probably goes foul too often and the Pitcher and Catcher are still within range to retrieve the bunted ball. A runner on 3rd, would maybe hold the catcher near homeplate but the pitcher could make a play. statistically they probably give too much credence to swinging away resulting in a home run.
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John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
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Can someone please explain to me why the analytics say it is a better decision to swing away when a dramatic shift is on where the the closest player to third base is only 2-3 steps away from 2nd base instead of bunting down the third base line? Because bunting is hard. And it is even harder when everyone throws 100.
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I don't think that is the reason.
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Can someone please explain to me why the analytics say it is a better decision to swing away when a dramatic shift is on where the the closest player to third base is only 2-3 steps away from 2nd base instead of bunting down the third base line? Because bunting is hard. And it is even harder when everyone throws 100. I know bunting against someone throwing 100 is hard, but hitting someone throwing 100 is harder. The answer is nobody gets paid for being able to bunt. They are all up there trying to go yard, because that's how guys get paid in today's game. None of these guys spend even 5 minutes of their BP time working on laying down a bunt.
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I bunted a lot when I played in high school. It's easier to put the bat in front of the ball on a bunt than it is to take a full swing at fast pitches and especially curves, sliders, sinkers, etc.
I think you are right about guys don't practice it enough and don't get paid for it. I also think the current analytics don't believe in bunting, stealing, the hit and run, sacrifices, hitting behind the runner, etc. I also think that is why we see so many home runs and strike outs in the current game.
As an old-time baseball purist, I don't care for the new strategies. But, I can see where a lot of fans, especially younger ones, prefer homers and strikeouts over playing small ball and doing the little things correctly.
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The focus needs to be on winning the game. Not enough attention is paid to the concept of moving the runner. The Indians' Carlos Santana could raise his BA 20-30 points if he could bunt down the 3rd base line against the shift when he's batting lefty. Its downright stupid that he's never even tried it. Hell, if he did it 3 or 4 times successfully, they'd stop using the shift against him and his average would go up even more.
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The “current analytics” say those things because they have taken all the inefficiencies out of the game. Giving up outs is not a good idea under most circumstances.
The “new” data doesn’t hate bunts. It hates outs. Players now are terrible at bunting, therefore it produces outs. If there were a player that could bunt against the shift successfully 40% of the time the numbers would love that. And the shift would stop in that player pretty quickly.
The reason we see so many strikeouts is because the pitchers all became scientists and throw 95+ with two good breaking pitches. It’s harder to hit than ever before, so if you aren’t going to get a hit anyway you might as well sell out and hit a home run.
I understand where people who like the old style of baseball are coming from. I enjoy that style too. I also enjoy baseball now (probably a little less than when I was a kid). When the ball is in play it is more fun because there are more possible outcomes. In the end the goal is to win the game and you win by scoring more runs. If it was more efficient to score runs but bunting and sacrificing then more teams would do it.
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There is evidence that shows the shift doesn’t even work that well to begin with (especially against right handed hitters.)
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Speaking of the modern game and its lack of so-called small ball, when they swing for the fences moreso then they used to (at least, I think so): why not move the fences out 5-10 feet, wherever possible?
Over a few years, baseball would be discouraged from putting such a premium on the long ball. Just a thought.
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I hear you. I just don't agree w/the current analytics. Striking out in record numbers is not putting the ball in play. Bunting does put the ball in play. So does a sacrifice.
I think that we have dumbed down the game and have taken the art of managing out of the game.
Here is an example you might relate to since you are from Cali. Tommy Lasorda was considered by some as a blowhard and a friend of Hollywood type, as if that is some sort of insult.
I did not like the Dodgers or Lasorda. But, when I watched him manage, I was amazed at how many times he made the right moves in games. When to bunt. When to sacrifice. When to change pitchers. When to pinch hit. When to steal. Etc, etc.
Today's game is dumb in my opinion. I am not asking you or anyone to agree, but I think the homer or strikeout mindset is ignorant.
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It is by definition not dumb. They literally figured out through math that you shouldn’t sacrifice (under most circumstances).
The changing pitchers part is still a huge deal. Dodger fans fear Dave Roberts because he has botched so many pitching situations.
This is the way managers feel nowadays;
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I think you are trying to win an argument. You keep changing the narrative. This started off w/bunting and you said it was too hard. I'm not interested in trying to win an argument. I never once mentioned "gut feelings." We used to call it "situational baseball." That's not a gut feeling.
I was just talking baseball and I don't think the strategy of going for a homer or striking out is smart. I'm okay if you disagree. But, I don't feel you are debating fairly. Have a nice night.
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The “current analytics” say those things because they have taken all the inefficiencies out of the game. Giving up outs is not a good idea under most circumstances.
The “new” data doesn’t hate bunts. It hates outs. Players now are terrible at bunting, therefore it produces outs. If there were a player that could bunt against the shift successfully 40% of the time the numbers would love that. And the shift would stop in that player pretty quickly.
The reason we see so many strikeouts is because the pitchers all became scientists and throw 95+ with two good breaking pitches. It’s harder to hit than ever before, so if you aren’t going to get a hit anyway you might as well sell out and hit a home run.
I understand where people who like the old style of baseball are coming from. I enjoy that style too. I also enjoy baseball now (probably a little less than when I was a kid). When the ball is in play it is more fun because there are more possible outcomes. In the end the goal is to win the game and you win by scoring more runs. If it was more efficient to score runs but bunting and sacrificing then more teams would do it. I know you're just reporting the facts, but I feel like striking-out in record numbers doesn't offer much remedy to "hating outs". And call me crazy, but if I'm managing a team where half my lineup is going to stare into gaping holes in the infield -- my players are going to learn how to bunt. Seems like maybe these geeks are drowning in their own numbers. Hopefully they start treading water soon so we can go back to "playing ball". I feel like I'm watching a video game.
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A strikeout is the same as a groundout to first. An out is an out.
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A strikeout is the same as a groundout to first. An out is an out. No. Nothing happens when a hitter strikes out. A ground ball or a fly ball can move a runner into scoring position. When you put the bat on the ball you force the defense to make a play. Fielding errors, throwing errors happen. A batted ball has inherently more value than a swing and a miss.
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A double play can also happen.
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Dodgers' Buehler looks like he has no-hit stuff tonight.
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