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I reported last season on the rise of JW Johnson, Jimmy Haslam's son-in-law last season and an expanding role. Browns employees were notified today that on July 1 he will officially take over as Executive Vice President

https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1007006408481673217

Of course.
What's wrong with that? It's a family owned business. Why wouldn't you bring family in to the business?


Nobody complains about Evan's and Son's Plumbing.
Unless he's more concerned about his English soccer team than the Browns.
Posted By: cle23 Re: JW Johnson named Executive Vice President - 06/14/18 01:45 AM
This is on the business side of the team. Who cares.
I know I don't care.
Posted By: cfrs15 Re: JW Johnson named Executive Vice President - 06/14/18 03:22 AM
I would prefer my favorite football team to hire the best possible person for each available position. If that person happens to be the son-in-law of the owners then I am fine with that. Based on the Haslam's history of hiring people (Scheiner, Farmer, Brown, Pettine, Banner, ... ...) then this probably will end in failure.
I never really care who we hire/promote on that side of the organization (even though I highly doubt this guy is the BEST man for the job) .. but let's be honest, the only person's job who matters right now is Baker Mayfield.
Do we know for sure he isn't on the football side of things?

There is already a EVP & COO in David Jenkins. I'm assuming that is on the business side of things. I hope people that are saying this are correct.
Hey, if he's qualified, what is there to say?
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Hey, if he's qualified, what is there to say?


I think qualification would be a concern.
It sounds to me that he will work in the media side of things.

wkyc.com | Haslam son-in law JW Johnson to join Cleveland Browns' front office as executive vice president
https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/...nt/95-564174880

CLEVELAND -- JW Johnson, the son-in-law of owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam, is relocating his family to Cleveland and will take on an executive vice president role with the Cleveland Browns.

A Browns spokesperson confirmed the news after Wednesday’s minicamp practice at the team’s Berea headquarters saying the Haslams wanted to add Johnson to the executive staff “to make it more of a family business, very much in line with the structure of other NFL franchises.”

According to his LinkedIn page, Johnson joins the Browns with a background in journalism and multimedia, as he spent 15 years as an associate director/producer for CBS Sports before becoming the strategic wholesale sales manager at Pilot Flying J, and later, a development director for RIVR Media before founding his own company, 3 Sons Media.

Pilot Flying J is owned by the Haslams, while Dee Haslam is a partner/executive producer for RIVR Media.

Johnson studied broadcast journalism at the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss).

By joining the family business, Johnson is looking to help turn around the fortunes of a Browns team that has struggled mightily in recent seasons.

With their New Year’s Eve loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Browns went winless in a 16-game season for the first time in franchise history, and their 17th consecutive loss dropped the organization to a league-worst 1-31 since the opening game of 2016.

The Browns have not won on a Sunday afternoon since December 13, 2015. The 33 straight Sunday losses are an NFL record, and their 4-49 mark in the last 53 outings is the worst in the league in that span of more than four years.

Additionally, last fall, the Browns set the record for the worst 28-game stretch in NFL history, as they “bested” the previous mark of 2-26 set by the expansion Tampa Bay Buccaneers during the 1976-1977 seasons with a 1-27 mark that got four losses worse after Week 13.

In five full seasons under the Haslams’ majority ownership, the Browns have posted an NFL-worst 15-65 record. Factoring in the remaining games of the 2012 season after the sale was approved at an NFL Owners Meeting in Chicago, the Browns have gone 19-70 under the Haslams.

Also, with Buffalo clinching a wildcard berth in the AFC last December, the Browns have the longest-standing playoff drought in the NFL.
So in other words people decided to comment before they had any clue what they were even talking about. Typical.
Posted By: eotab Re: JW Johnson named Executive Vice President - 06/14/18 05:44 PM
It is possible that he is good at what he did and the fact that he is related the reason they were able to land him ??? You know shoe on the other foot. I don't see how this will effect the football side of the ball. Good to get new blood in and have the organization from the guy sweeping the floors to the CEO all on the same page and loving their job and direction!

jmho really don't understand the negatives when there isn't a negative presented except that its cool to pretend we know more and complain...lol laugh
So people can't voice any concern over a in-family hire especially when it's relates an EVP role and didn't move up the ranks in any NFL or other sports-realted capacity, regardless of what department he goes to? Furthermore, the article doesn't mention anything about role, but just lists his work backround. Hopefully there is some connectivity to what he has done in the past and it would make sense if that ended up being the case.

But I mean Jimmy has a great track record with hiring and keeping people, right?

______

Side note: I believe it has been mentioned on news outlets before that the "Johnson" is of the same Johnson Family that owns the Jets as Woody Johnson is his father. Doesn't mean much but it is an interesting tibit.

Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So in other words people decided to comment before they had any clue what they were even talking about. Typical.


Kinda like you and the Browns drafting Baker Mayfield?
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So in other words people decided to comment before they had any clue what they were even talking about. Typical.


Kinda like you and the Browns drafting Baker Mayfield?


I have no problem with the Browns drafting Baker Mayfield. I do hope some of his immature actions are behind him now. That's all I've ever really said about it. He did some pretty stupid things when he was in college. A lot of young people do stupid things.

But once again, this guy was hired to do some media BS. It has nothing to do with the team itself.

Yet the haters went straight for the throat without even waiting to find that out. lmao
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
So in other words people decided to comment before they had any clue what they were even talking about. Typical.


Kinda like you and the Browns drafting Baker Mayfield?


I have no problem with the Browns drafting Baker Mayfield. I do hope some of his immature actions are behind him now. That's all I've ever really said about it. He did some pretty stupid things when he was in college. A lot of young people do stupid things.

But once again, this guy was hired to do some media BS. It has nothing to do with the team itself.

Yet the haters went straight for the throat without even waiting to find that out. lmao


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I have no problem with the Browns drafting Baker Mayfield.
Thanks for the laugh.

And tt's not straight for the throat. This was brought up about a year ago with criticism that Dadduh-in-law was bringing this guy aboard in some form or fashion. This guy has also said some pretty stupid/comtroversial things on twitter, and has now since retracted it, if I recall correctly.

A hater? Yeah I'm a hater of alot of decisions Jimmy Haslem has made. How can one not be skeptical?
I just have no idea why anyone would be concerned or critical of a guy in the media department. Unless of course you're actually concerned about ticket sales? Mmmm. hmmm.

And maybe instead of laughing you could actually find anything other than me being concerned about Mayfields past impulse control and that I hope it's simply a matter of maturity at a young age. But of course you can't so it's better to throw out a one liner.
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I just have no idea why anyone would be concerned or critical of a guy in the media department.


Do we know if he is in the media department?

If he is, then yes, I will be very relieved that is the case. I even mentioned it several posts above praying that would be the case.

"you could actually find anything other than me being concerned about Mayfields past impulse control"

Ok, here are a couple of your posts regarding Mayfield if you want to go that route. But yeah, you were fine with picking him.

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As long as he (Mayfield) doesn't rise to us.

^ This is a good one considering you just said you didn't mind us taking Mayfield. rofl

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Yeah that's why almost every report has Mayfield listed third on the list of QB's in the draft. Because your word is gospel and they know nothing. Give us all a break. There is a draft forum on these boards.


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This is relevant because I'm certain 95% of the people here will be disgusted if the name on the card with the Browns #1 pick is Baker Mayfield


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Good luck with that on draft day. And it's not just my mind. Mayfield is usually ranked at least the #3 QB in this draft by most.


This is just a sampling. Seeing your responses to devicedawg were great. Again, thanks for the laugh.

Back to JW.....
Oh you mean before the draft when everyone is pimping their own players. Not once the draft is over.

I got it.
So you hated the idea of the Mayfield pick before the draft. Now, after he is selected, you have "no problem" with the pick? Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth! This is really good stuff.

What else do you got for us today?
Everybody's got your number. Of course people pimp their own players. Any moron knows that. lmao Well, almost any moron.
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Everybody's got your number. Of course people pimp their own players. Any moron knows that. lmao Well, almost any moron.


Ah, yes. Resort to name calling when there is nothing left to stand on. Your above posts re: Mayfield and not wanting him (even though you claim otherwise) speak for themselves.

Back to JW.....

Has there been anything that confirms the role he'll have with the Browns? Anyone have something?
Would he have been my chosen pick? No. But unlike some, I don't think I know more than Dorsey. And obviously you don't know what name calling is.
Don't back track now.....

Your posts show it all. You were not "fine" with Baker being selected. And there are plenty more posts where that came from. Just accept that you were correctly called out on it and move on.


All you have is things that I thought before the draft. Like I said, Mayfield wouldn't have been my choice. Sorry you don't grasp the difference.
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All you have is things that I thought before the draft.


Um...yeah. That's the entire point. What?...so what people say about wanting a player or not wanting a player doesn't count or isn't of any value because it was said before the draft? What kind of logic is that?

What a cheap and disengenious way to approach your own opinion as well as the perceived opinion of others. Talk about a poor approach, generally speaking, to one's credibility as a poster. I didn't know posters could claim what they previously said about a player doesn't mean anything as long as they're "pimping" someone else.

What concept.


The concept you can't seem to grasp is that everyone decides on which players they would draft and why. Why they prefer their players over other players. So does everyone who wanted Barkley and didn't want us to draft Chub think it was a mistake to draft Chub? No, they don't.

Give it a rest. Your shtick is getting old.
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The concept you can't seem to grasp is that everyone decides on which players they would draft and why. Why they prefer their players over other players. So does everyone who wanted Barkley and didn't want us to draft Chub think it was a mistake to draft Chub? No, they don't.


Oh, I get it. The difference is, and I think you said you wanted Rosen, you bashed Mayfield before the draft (evidence posted above) but claimed you were fine with the pick earlier today.

Prefer certain players all you want- i don't care. Just don't try and lie about what you said about other players. It's pretty simple. The evidence is all in the above posts.

Attempt #3, back to JW.....
You get the last word. I'm fine with the Mayfield pick.
j/c:

From 2017....

Who is JW Johnson? Jason La Canfora says he’ll play a key role in the Browns’ reshuffling

Everyone here knows what we think of Jason La Canfora, so this post isn’t really about that re-hashing. While he reported on the disconnect with the Cleveland Browns’ front office, he finished his article with the following previously-unheard nugget on someone named JW Johnson. Who is that?

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League sources said ownership has already starting talking internally about how to move forward with a new regime in 2018. Owner Jimmy Haslam's son-in-law, JW Johnson, has continued to take a more hands-on role with the club, sources said, and he will be an integral figure in the reshuffling of the franchise, along with Haslam's wife, Dee, who is considered by many inside and outside of the organization to be the most powerful figure in the Browns hierarchy.


Here is what I could gather about Johnson’s background:

- He has a background in journalism and multimedia. He was an associate director/producer for CBS Sports for 15 years before becoming a Strategic Wholesale Sales Manager at Pilot Flying J from 2009-2013.

- After that, he joined RIVR Media, and then founded 3 Sons Media, a company that has developed a lot of in-game video packages for the Cleveland Browns and Tennessee Titans.

- Jimmy and Dee Haslam have three children — one son and two daughters. Johnson is married to one of their daughters, Whitney Haslam-Johnson. She was promoted to Chief Experience Officer at Pilot Flying J this year, and has been with the company since 2005. It appears that JW and Whitney got married in 2013.

- Interestingly enough, Johnson has a Twitter account. While he doesn’t tweet a ton about the Browns, after everyone made fun of the team’s botched trade last week, he said, “The deal didn’t happen and that’s business. Again Everyone Relax! Go Browns.” He also responded to an NFL.com columnist referencing the Browns as a dumpster fire with, “Have a little class and remember you work for the NFL!”

- Back in January, he also made it evident he wasn't a fan of La Canfora, saying, "Little people with little problems -- he'll be out of a job soon." and "This guy is a clown! #ZeroRespect"

You can see a photo of him below from Dee Haslam’s Facebook page — Johnson is on the far left, with his wife next to him and then Jimmy and Dee beside them.

There’s no telling whether Johnson will actually have more involvement with the workings of the franchise moving forward, as La Canfora insinuates. But, if his name starts coming up more, at least we have a little bit of background information on who he is.

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/11/5/...wns-reshuffling
His mom believes he is qualified. Welcome aboard.
hope he comes and tailgate with us like other Media people.
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
So people can't voice any concern over a in-family hire especially when it's relates an EVP role and didn't move up the ranks in any NFL or other sports-realted capacity, regardless of what department he goes to? Furthermore, the article doesn't mention anything about role, but just lists his work backround. Hopefully there is some connectivity to what he has done in the past and it would make sense if that ended up being the case.

But I mean Jimmy has a great track record with hiring and keeping people, right?

______

Side note: I believe it has been mentioned on news outlets before that the "Johnson" is of the same Johnson Family that owns the Jets as Woody Johnson is his father. Doesn't mean much but it is an interesting tibit.




Not when they don't know what they are talking about.

He is in media. A person doesn't have to work up with a football team to know what to do. It's the same in any large business.

You don't need to hire only CPS's who worked up with a football team. You don't need lawyers who worked up with a football team. Hell, the team has a chef. I am sure he didn't work up with other football teams.
I didn't say it just had to be a football team. I referenced the sports industry as a whole. My concern is his involvement if it goes to the football side of things, which we don't know yet. If he does the media route....cool, that's a relief.

And it will remain my concern until we get more info on it, and because, well, .....Jimmy Haslem.
Ok....fair enough, you said sports industry, I said football team.

John Dorsey runs the football side as I understand it. J.W. may end up as owner some day....or co-owner with his wife.

That's just the way it works.

Like I said in my first comment, nobody complains when it is Evan's and sons plumbing.


How dare Mr. Evans bring his sons in to the business.


It's a pretty common desire and practice for a family to keep as much money in the family as possible. Everybody in here either does, or would do if they owned a business.


Don't worry, I don't think we will see JW directing next years draft.
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
Like I said in my first comment, nobody complains when it is Evan's and sons plumbing.


[quote]How dare Mr. Evans bring his sons in to the business.


It's a pretty common desire and practice for a family to keep as much money in the family as possible. Everybody in here either does, or would do if they owned a business.


I think you're missing my point but no big deal. I don't really care all that much that he is bringing in family, although it does have a good ole' boy/cocoon hire feel to it, but yes I understand why he would do that--hire family in a family-owned business. Hell, he can hire his daughter to do something. And his wife taking a larger role organizationally is perhaps the best thing that has happened on a few levels. I'm just surprised at the EVP role all at once regardless of department. And I'll be shocked and disappointed if he goes to the football side of things. As we have seen with Jimmy Haslem, just because you have final say in the draft and roster, doesn't mean people haven't tried to make a move in decision making. Do you recall all the power struggles that have gone on under Jimmy, mainly due to position structuring and organization hierarchy? It's just another cook in the kitchen IF he ends up in the football side of things. The personnel side is the flashy side of the business and he could leverage his family ties and new EVP title to bend his ear more on that front instead of letting the current people do their job. It's a possibility is all I'm pointing out. It just has a weird feel to me. It did last year when this was reported and it hasn't changed for me.
All's cool my friend.
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
What's wrong with that? It's a family owned business. Why wouldn't you bring family in to the business?


Nobody complains about Evan's and Son's Plumbing.


Evan's son is a crack head!
Posted By: FATE Re: JW Johnson named Executive Vice President - 06/15/18 01:05 AM
Originally Posted By: DeputyDawg
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
What's wrong with that? It's a family owned business. Why wouldn't you bring family in to the business?


Nobody complains about Evan's and Son's Plumbing.


Evan's son is a crack head!


But it's okay, 'cuz it's plumber's crack!
Posted By: eotab Re: JW Johnson named Executive Vice President - 06/15/18 12:46 PM
You two going to go to the table and hit at each other over a meaningless Exec hiring...come on you two, don't get banned for this nonsense, at least get into a heated football thread...lol laugh

Don't want to lose either one of you. wink
Not sure who the two is, but I didn't see anything like that.
Posted By: eotab Re: JW Johnson named Executive Vice President - 06/16/18 05:17 PM
Memphis and Pit...just thought it was a meaningless football thread to get so emotional about and risk getting banned. that's all how could you not see???
Ah, it's just someone raising a stink over something that "might, eventually happen". Pretty much a nothing burger not deserving of further attention.
Posted By: eotab Re: JW Johnson named Executive Vice President - 06/18/18 04:17 PM
Respect both of you two more than you think... wink
I don't doubt that. I respect you as well. I just decided not to dwell any further on some future "what if" scenario.
j/c:

Browns' succession plan: All in the family

When Ross Johnson came home from a Cleveland Indians game last spring, Dee Haslam was pleasantly surprised by her grandson's new attire.

"He comes home literally head to toe in Indians gear, and I said, 'Ross, what happened?' " Haslam said.

Johnson had been a New York Yankees fan, but — much to his grandparents' delight — he had added another Cleveland sports team to his list of favorites.

Another move — this one a bit more serious than a 6-year-old's sports fandom — was announced by the Browns not long after Ross' trip to Progressive Field.

James Wood Johnson III — Ross' father and son-in-law of Browns owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam — would be moving his family to Northeast Ohio and joining the club on a full-time basis July 1.

The move, which was made official almost eight months after CBS Sports reported that JW Johnson had become more involved with the Browns, was hardly a surprise. Still, it was significant, since it signaled the Haslams — 64-year-old Knoxville, Tenn., natives who purchased the Browns from Randy Lerner in 2012 — had a succession plan in place.

That's a sensible decision for any business, let alone an NFL franchise that Forbes estimates is worth $1.95 billion. It's an action, however, that all too often isn't made, said Keven P. Prather, a partner and financial planner with Cleveland-based Skylight Financial Group.

"Most people with extreme wealth don't have effective estate planning in place," Prather said. "You hear about dozens of examples every year."

In just the last few years, the NFL, which bans corporate ownership, has had succession plans that were marred by family drama (the dispute between late New Orleans Saints owner Tom Benson's third wife, Gayle, and Tom's daughter, granddaughter and grandson), an unclear transition (Denver Broncos owner Pat Bowlen, prior to his health declining, said each of his seven children would get an equal share of the team upon his death) and Susie Adams Smith attempting to sell her one-third stake in the Tennessee Titans. Then there are the Carolina Panthers, whose former owner, Jerry Richardson, forced his feuding sons to resign from the team in 2009, then announced he was selling the franchise in 2017, after being accused by several current and former employees of sexual harassment.

It's not as if the Browns, with eight head coaches and nine general managers since returning in 1999, have been a textbook example of stability. But the Haslams believe that John Dorsey, their fourth GM in six years, is the right person to finally get the franchise on track — and that sentiment is shared by many around the league.

The owners took care of another critical piece of business when they officially brought Johnson into the fold. Johnson is married to Whitney Haslam Johnson, the oldest of the Haslams' two daughters and the chief experience officer at their other family business, Pilot Flying J.

"Jimmy and I have always been a part of family businesses," Dee Haslam told Crain's in June. "Most NFL teams are family businesses, so it's very normal to do that."

A succession plan, Haslam said, is "just something you do."

During an interview with the media at Browns training camp July 28, Jimmy Haslam said JW Johnson "will be here 100% of the time. We are here a lot of the time, but not all the time, as you all know."

Johnson spent 15 years as a director and producer for CBS Sports, then had tenures at Pilot Flying J and RIVR Media. In April, Dee Haslam stepped down as the CEO of Knoxville-based RIVR (she remains a partner and executive producer) — a step she said was necessitated by all of the time she is spending in Northeast Ohio.

Johnson also founded 3 Sons Media, a Nashville-based marketing and advertising agency. His bio on the Browns' website says he "works closely with chief operating officer David Jenkins in leading the business side of the organization."

The earlier, the better
Prather, the Skylight Financial Group partner and financial planner, said about 70% of family businesses fail or are sold before the second generation gets a chance to assume control. He applauds the Haslams for putting a succession plan in place so soon.

"Sixty is not too early," Prather said.

An NFL owners guide that was compiled by MMQB in July identified likely successors for 13 of the league's 31 privately held teams. (The Green Bay Packers are the only publicly owned, not-for-profit major sports team that is based in the U.S.)

The Browns weren't among the 13, though their 64-year-old owners are well below the ages of many of their peers in the league.

Ten of the 31 privately held teams have owners who are 75 and up, and 14 are at least 70. That doesn't include the Broncos, who are being run by longtime club president and CEO Joe Ellis until the Bowlen family trust selects a family member to take charge.

Seventeen clubs have owners who are older than the Haslams, and three others (the Buffalo Bills, New York Giants and San Francisco Giants) have at least one member of their primary ownership group in their late 60s.

Dee Haslam said the day-to-day production aspect of RIVR is "what eats you alive." She said scaling back those duties at the production company she owns with partners Rob Lundgren and Lori Golden-Stryer occurred at the "perfect" time.

"Being part of the Browns is something I want to do for a long time," Haslam told Crain's.

Haslam then brought up Martha Firestone Ford, the 92-year-old owner and chairman of the Detroit Lions.

"She's fantastic," Dee Haslam said. "Don't say I'm going to do this until I'm 90, but I hope I'm able to do this for a while. I really enjoy it. And I think we're making progress."

Haslam, whose father, Ross Bagwell Sr., is a cable television industry pioneer, is among eight women with a primary NFL ownership stake, according to the MMQB's analysis. She was appointed to the NFL's conduct committee in December 2014 and serves on the league's legislative committee. Jimmy Haslam was named to the league's social justice committee in January and is part of the league's business ventures, media and Hall of Fame committees.

Dee, who as a child "learned production at the kitchen table," and Jimmy Haslam have taken a crash course in NFL ownership. They "made every mistake in the book, and you learn from that," Dee said in June.

It's much too soon to know if the latest reboot will be as effective as the Haslams and others in and outside the organization believe. Another key plan — one that goes well beyond the playing career of rookie quarterback Baker Mayfield — is also in motion.

"We're really fortunate that JW and Whitney wanted to move up here and be part of something that's so special," Dee Haslam said.

http://www.crainscleveland.com/sports-business/browns-succession-plan-all-family
nationalize the browns
So now we have Thief and Co ! lol
Haha, JW is just on the media side of things.... notallthere
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Ah, it's just someone raising a stink over something that "might, eventually happen". Pretty much a nothing burger not deserving of further attention.


Lol.
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Ah, it's just someone raising a stink over something that "might, eventually happen". Pretty much a nothing burger not deserving of further attention.


Lol.


Honestly better a son-in-law than a failson. Still the city should just take over the Browns via imminent domain.
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Ah, it's just someone raising a stink over something that "might, eventually happen". Pretty much a nothing burger not deserving of further attention.


Lol.


Honestly better a son-in-law than a failson. Still the city should just take over the Browns via imminent domain.


And he is the son of the Jets' owner if I am not mistaken, so we're good.
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But once again, this guy was hired to do some media BS. It has nothing to do with the team itself.

Yet the haters went straight for the throat without even waiting to find that out. lmao


Rememeber when people said he was just part of the "Media BS" with the Browns?
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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But once again, this guy was hired to do some media BS. It has nothing to do with the team itself.

Yet the haters went straight for the throat without even waiting to find that out. lmao


Rememeber when people said he was just part of the "Media BS" with the Browns?


What's the big deal? You act like it's your money
Nepotism is a hard thing to beat but it doesn't mean you can't hope for the best.
Originally Posted By: Steubenvillian
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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But once again, this guy was hired to do some media BS. It has nothing to do with the team itself.

Yet the haters went straight for the throat without even waiting to find that out. lmao


Rememeber when people said he was just part of the "Media BS" with the Browns?


What's the big deal? You act like it's your money


Umm, what?
He just likes to throw things in people's faces. I'm surprised you didn't get it.
Posted By: kwhip Re: JW Johnson named Executive Vice President - 01/15/19 08:42 PM
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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But once again, this guy was hired to do some media BS. It has nothing to do with the team itself.

Yet the haters went straight for the throat without even waiting to find that out. lmao


Rememeber when people said he was just part of the "Media BS" with the Browns?


I'm wasting my time but.

WOW.You dug that up from SEPTEMBER?

AWESOME.

And you wonder why soooo much BS exists in these forums.

Some of u guys are pathetic and unreadable.

Congrats Memph.
Originally Posted By: kwhip
Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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But once again, this guy was hired to do some media BS. It has nothing to do with the team itself.

Yet the haters went straight for the throat without even waiting to find that out. lmao


Rememeber when people said he was just part of the "Media BS" with the Browns?


I'm wasting my time but.

WOW.You dug that up from SEPTEMBER?

AWESOME.

And you wonder why soooo much BS exists in these forums.

Some of u guys are pathetic and unreadable.

Congrats Memph.


There is always the ignore function. Use it.
I have to admit I wondered why it was pushed up.

The guy is Haslams Son-In-_Law. If you were the Son-In-Law of a NFL owner, we would be reading about you being moved to Executive VP.

It's a non starter to me. You don't need to have a vast football knowledge to have a senior VP role with a football team.

Football teams are big business. You don't need to be a oil Barron to run a large company like Exxon. The CEO probably knows little about digging oil wells or how to refine it in to gasoline. You pay geologists, roughnecks, and chemical engineers to figure that out.

The guy does have skills and forged a nice career before this. It's not like he is a moron.


He is being groomed....good for him.
I meant to bring this thread back up earlier when JW was announced to be part of the search committee. I think the fact people tried to dismiss the intent of why this thread was posted originally was worth pointing out. The BS media downplay was hilarious. I know you suggested at the time this thread was posted that it's a family thing and so it was suspected. I thought the initial title of EVP was curious and now we see why.

He is not part of the media team with the Browns. It was clear to some that this was a big deal a few months ago. Now many more are seeing it.
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I have to admit I wondered why it was pushed up.

The guy is Haslams Son-In-_Law. If you were the Son-In-Law of a NFL owner, we would be reading about you being moved to Executive VP.

It's a non starter to me. You don't need to have a vast football knowledge to have a senior VP role with a football team.

Football teams are big business. You don't need to be a oil Barron to run a large company like Exxon. The CEO probably knows little about digging oil wells or how to refine it in to gasoline. You pay geologists, roughnecks, and chemical engineers to figure that out.

The guy does have skills and forged a nice career before this. It's not like he is a moron.

He is being groomed....good for him.

People who think JW Johnson couldn't possibly be a moron didn't bother to read his Twitter feed when the Browns first hired him - BEFORE he deleted the most embarrassing posts. I did. Moronism is a distinct possibility.

But even if JW is not a nepotistic moron, he can still do a lot of damage. Does anybody remember Alec Scheiner? He ran the Browns business operations a few years back. He decided to start breaking down game film and fuss about in player personnel - expand his horizons so to speak.

Scheiner was one of the idiots lobbying behind the scenes to promote a woefully unprepared and irresponsible drunkard Johnny Manziel to starting QB because "Ticket Sales!". Scheiner et al finally had their way and the Browns season went down in flames.

JW Johnson has even more power, both formal and informal, within the Browns organization than Scheiner ever had. He thus has the power to interfere with the Browns and screw things up. Many NFL owners and their jackwagon family members screw up their teams all the time. Refer to the Bengals for a prime example.

Why does anybody assume that the Browns are suddenly exempt from such things happening in Berea?
Originally Posted By: AaigSuckinDawg
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I have to admit I wondered why it was pushed up.

The guy is Haslams Son-In-_Law. If you were the Son-In-Law of a NFL owner, we would be reading about you being moved to Executive VP.

It's a non starter to me. You don't need to have a vast football knowledge to have a senior VP role with a football team.

Football teams are big business. You don't need to be a oil Barron to run a large company like Exxon. The CEO probably knows little about digging oil wells or how to refine it in to gasoline. You pay geologists, roughnecks, and chemical engineers to figure that out.

The guy does have skills and forged a nice career before this. It's not like he is a moron.

He is being groomed....good for him.

People who think JW Johnson couldn't possibly be a moron didn't bother to read his Twitter feed when the Browns first hired him - BEFORE he deleted the most embarrassing posts. I did. Moronism is a distinct possibility.

But even if JW is not a nepotistic moron, he can still do a lot of damage. Does anybody remember Alec Scheiner? He ran the Browns business operations a few years back. He decided to start breaking down game film and fuss about in player personnel - expand his horizons so to speak.

Scheiner was one of the idiots lobbying behind the scenes to promote a woefully unprepared and irresponsible drunkard Johnny Manziel to starting QB because "Ticket Sales!". Scheiner et al finally had their way and the Browns season went down in flames.

JW Johnson has even more power, both formal and informal, within the Browns organization than Scheiner ever had. He thus has the power to interfere with the Browns and screw things up. Many NFL owners and their jackwagon family members screw up their teams all the time. Refer to the Bengals for a prime example.

Why does anybody assume that the Browns are suddenly exempt from such things happening in Berea?





I disagree..


Some of you people are too worked up. You are looking for things to gripe about.
Originally Posted By: Ballpeen

I disagree..


Some of you people are too worked up. You are looking for things to gripe about.

I understand your take. This is a time of genuine and authentic hope for the Browns. It truly is. So I am quite the Eeyore in all of this.

But all this legitimate hope doesn't mean that everything will be wonderful all of the time. There will be struggles and setbacks and obstacles to overcome. (This is a good thing - it is what will make the Browns truly great.)

One of those obstacles might be the Haslam family. Lately they have been doing a pretty good job. But the Haslams wield tremendous power over the Browns - power that can all too easily be used destructively as they have done in the recent past.
My theory is don't worry about it until you see it happening.

Even then, what can you or I do about it?

I am not worried about JW.

We have seen our owner grow. It's like the question asked of Kitchens being ready to be a head coach...who is ready?

Well, who is ready to own a football team? Lot's of owners struggled early on. Some never grow in the process. At least it looks like ours have.

It's a good thing most of us don't own the team. Talk about meddling...lol
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