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Posted By: YTownBrownsFan Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 06:25 AM
Geesh ... a week or so into camp .... and they decide the guy they just hired is the wrong guy? Not the best way to start a new Head Coach's career ......

Dolphins fire O-line coach one week into camp
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27281614/dolphins-fire-o-line-coach-one-week-camp

DAVIE, Fla. -- The Miami Dolphins have fired offensive line coach Pat Flaherty and replaced him with Dave DeGuglielmo.

Flaherty was hired in February shortly after Brian Flores took over as head coach, but the Dolphins' offensive line has struggled throughout the spring and summer.

This move was football-based with nothing to do with an off-the-field incident, a source told ESPN.

Flores has made it clear that there are no "sacred cows" in the organization and players are competing for their jobs every day. It's apparent that refers to coaches, too, after the move to let go of Flaherty.

The fact that the move happened even before the preseason shows that the issues with how Flaherty was guiding the offensive line were significant. The interior of the offensive line, in particular, has been dominated by the defensive line through four days of training camp.

DeGuglielmo, who spent 2018 as the Indianapolis Colts' offensive line coach, was hired as a Dolphins football analyst in May. He's very familiar with Miami. This is his third stint as an assistant coach here (2009-11; 2017 after Chris Foerster resigned).

The move also means another former Patriots assistant in DeGuglielmo (offensive line coach, 2014-15) has a significant role on the Dolphins' coaching staff.

DeGuglielmo, also known as Guge, is recognized for turning the Colts' offensive line into one of the NFL's best last season, most notably thanks to the performances of rookie starters Quenton Nelson and Braden Smith.

The Dolphins are expected to have at least two new starters on their offensive line and need to groom several young players in that room, including third-round pick Michael Deiter.
Posted By: JPPT1974 Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 07:50 AM
Well that was fast. Guess that he made a pretty bad impression from the get go. Flores comes from the Bill Belichick school of first impressions could be your last!
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 09:49 AM
Kind of weird timing of course. SOunds like the guy couldn’t communicate/understand the schemes they wanted
Posted By: Rishuz Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 12:40 PM
Sounds like two things to me...

Flores is flexing his authority. This is not uncommon in any company or organization when a new guy takes over.

He probably regretted not hiring the other guy to begin with.
Posted By: Damanshot Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 01:13 PM
I think the old saying "hire slow, fire fast" really applies here.. LOL
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 02:47 PM
Haha “very fast”
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 03:31 PM
I think if and when you find out the guy isn't the right one for the job, the sooner the better. But at this point I think you have to have as many questions about the guy who hired him as you do about the guy he hired.
Posted By: bonefish Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 03:35 PM

The head coach of the Dolphins today announced the Fitz is leading in the quarterback battle.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27286164/fins-coach-tabs-fitzpatrick-leader-qb-battle


That is bad news for Rosen. Fitz is a smart vet. Knows the game well. But at this point he is a perfect back up quarterback.

Rosen is now in his second year. This was a perfect opportunity on a rebuilding team. It would have made perfect sense for Rosen to prove he is their future franchise QB.

Not a good sign for Rosen.

The article talks about Fitz leading on the field and in the classrooms.

Something is lacking there with Rosen. Rosen throws a beautiful ball. He came into the league from college as one of the true pure passers.

His stock is sinking.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 04:06 PM
Wow, Rosen has had a rough year ... I’m surprised they’d make this announcement so early
Posted By: PitDAWG Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 04:12 PM
Well, actually it was ESPN. And yes, it's far too early to make any type of call like that.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 04:16 PM
Oh I thought it was from Flores
Posted By: Ballpeen Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 04:21 PM
Glad we didn't draft that guy. Tim Couch all over.
Posted By: AZBrown Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 04:38 PM
Maybe the Cardinals ruined Rosen's MOJO a bit.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 07:06 PM
Seems like the Dolphins will go through some growing pains, or stagnation pains, or whatever this year
Posted By: BCbrownie Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 07:24 PM
Pat Flaherty was a damned good o-line coach,maybe he didn't approve of the "Patriot Way".
Maybe he'll resurface in Jacksonville,he spent like forever with Coughlin at the Giants,when they were playing smashmouth and winning SB's.
Posted By: Bard Dawg Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 09:47 PM
Thought Rosen would step in and own this. Is this just a matter of who wants it more? Like Rosen's ball, it is beautiful. Is he lacking the fire in the belly or not hitting a playbook enough. Puzzling to me. Not sure I would want Fitz as the number one.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 07/30/19 10:18 PM
I had never heard of him, but don’t follow coaching that much with position guys. Maybe he just didn’t match what they’re doing, but wouldn’t they know that before hiring him lol
Originally Posted By: BCbrownie
Pat Flaherty was a damned good o-line coach,maybe he didn't approve of the "Patriot Way".
Maybe he'll resurface in Jacksonville,he spent like forever with Coughlin at the Giants,when they were playing smashmouth and winning SB's.
Posted By: DiamDawg Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 08/04/19 02:45 PM
Not sure where to stick this ... i know there was some chatter somewhere abut this competition so i figured i’d add this too it but i have no clue where it is .. *L* ..


JOSH ROSEN
QB, MIAMI DOLPHINS

According to Adam Beasley of the Miami Herald, Josh Rosen "might just be the Dolphins' QB1" when the team returns to practice on Monday.

Rosen shined during Saturday's intra-squad scrimmage, making what Beasley deemed as "remarkable throws," while Fitzpatrick fared poorly, committing two interceptions while nearly throwing a third on an errant pass he forced into double coverage. Fitzpatrick has held the lead in Miami's quarterback competition all offseason, but Saturday's tour de force performance by Rosen may have turned the tide. "He’s made some improvement really across the board," gushed first-year head coach Brian Flores. "Better footwork, better mechanics in the pocket, better decision-making." Rosen tanked as a rookie last year but never had much chance to succeed with a weak supporting cast and poor coaching in Arizona. The change of scenery this offseason seems to have done him some good.

RELATED: Ryan Fitzpatrick
SOURCE: Miami Herald
Aug 4, 2019, 10:19 AM ET
Posted By: eotab Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 08/04/19 02:49 PM
I don't think they have any other choice than to make him the #1. I mean Fitzpatrick has a clear history and he is so Hot and Cold. The kid Josh is a good QB and cream always rises to the occasion. Good for him. If they keep him upright he will do good. Get him punch drunk then he will falter badly!

jmho
Posted By: FATE Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 08/04/19 02:50 PM
Looks like there's still a chance "Rosen will be chosen".
Posted By: DiamDawg Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 08/04/19 02:56 PM
They gotta keep him upright bro and i don’tknow that they can do that ...

We may never get a chance to see what Rosen could have been ... he got the crap beat out of him last year in Zona behind the worst OL in the league and it appears he may be once again playing for the team with the worst OL in the league ..

Dudes got “battle scars” in his memory from last year and this year could just add more .. at some point getting over your reality of getting constantly pummeled becomes hard to overcome ...

I’d LOVE to see him at least get a chance ... for his sake, hopefully i’m wrong about the fish this year for his sake ..
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 08/04/19 02:59 PM
Jc

IMO, they HAVE to make Rosen the starter. The season is kind of a wash for them anyways ... it’s pointless to play Fitzpatrick as the starter. Gotta see what Rosen gives you before you draft a QB high next year
Posted By: Versatile Dog Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 08/04/19 04:54 PM
Most people have Miami as the worst team in the league when they do their power rankings.

If the 'Phins believe in Rosen, they might be smart to feed Fitz to the wolves and bring Rosen along slowly. Of course, I don't know if how highly they regard him.
Posted By: EveDawg Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 08/04/19 07:16 PM
Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
Jc

IMO, they HAVE to make Rosen the starter. The season is kind of a wash for them anyways ... it’s pointless to play Fitzpatrick as the starter. Gotta see what Rosen gives you before you draft a QB high next year


I agree with this.
Posted By: Dawgs4Life Re: Dolphins (Already) Fire OL Coach - 08/04/19 08:20 PM
Yeah, they’ve sent mixed signals with this new story ... I think they’re a bottom 3 team in the NFL. Not much going for them anywhere
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